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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #140 on: December 20, 2009, 09:59:13 am »
I found a Japanese blog based on that concept (if game systems hadn't evolved) a while back:

http://anothersystem1983.blog80.fc2.com/

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #141 on: December 20, 2009, 03:40:42 pm »
A little update on my situation. I'm currently at the last fund raiser event of the year that my wife and I will be participating in, so I'll have the next couple of weeks open to work on my various projects including this one.

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #142 on: December 20, 2009, 04:22:59 pm »
A little update on my situation. I'm currently at the last fund raiser event of the year that my wife and I will be participating in, so I'll have the next couple of weeks open to work on my various projects including this one.
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hey does this game have Gold Saucer in it?

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #143 on: December 20, 2009, 04:52:42 pm »
Gold Saucer, yes.  Much of Disc 2 was dropped completely
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #144 on: December 20, 2009, 06:21:40 pm »
Gold Saucer, yes.  Much of Disc 2 was dropped completely
Hmm I really need to play this more. It just takes sooo looong to fight battles and level up your guys though. I really wish the battle speed could be upped somehow

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #145 on: December 20, 2009, 09:28:22 pm »
Maybe it could be hacked so that battle animations can be skipped by pressing a button? Then it would be possible to get through standard battles more quickly.

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #146 on: December 20, 2009, 10:32:58 pm »
I found the enemy initial HP code to be too complicated, so I rewrote it to load directly from a table at 0x27550($F540) in the 99% patch.  Many of these numbers are several orders of magnitude lower than the old HP.  That speeds up the game more than anything.  Once some more exciting battle music is in place it'll actually seem faster.
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #147 on: December 21, 2009, 02:28:17 pm »
I found the enemy initial HP code to be too complicated, so I rewrote it to load directly from a table at 0x27550($F540) in the 99% patch.  Many of these numbers are several orders of magnitude lower than the old HP.  That speeds up the game more than anything.  Once some more exciting battle music is in place it'll actually seem faster.
I doubt it, since I often play with the sound off while listening to something else. I played through Mario 64 this year while listening to Pink Floyd's "The Wall" - that was groovy. :)

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #148 on: December 22, 2009, 06:57:22 am »
I don't know. I think it would help greatly to have the correct battle music in the game.

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #149 on: December 22, 2009, 11:39:03 pm »
Here's some boss music inspiration:
http://ff7nesremix.ytmnd.com/

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #150 on: December 23, 2009, 12:00:44 am »
Cute.  Coincidentally, I've been working on that song a bit today - preparing a MIDI to be sequenced into the game's format.  Lotta work.
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #151 on: December 23, 2009, 02:10:48 am »
That remix certainly sounds like the song in some ways, but it doesn’t sound an awful lot like Uematsu’s NES tunes, which usually used the triangle wave for bass notes (very beefy in some NSF player and speaker configurations!), and due to the way the games were programmed, very little percussion I can recall (his taste for percussion tends to be wayyy on the soft side to begin with). And the PSX version of the song definitely had some pronounced bass tones I can’t hear in the remix (which lots of covers simply drive up because it’s so insistent in its simplicity... dun duN DUN DUN!).
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #152 on: December 23, 2009, 06:09:29 am »
Yeah it's not totally accurate, but it definitely gets the imagination going eh? I thought it was hilarious when I first saw that years ago. Who knew an actual game would turn up like it did?

Lindblum, I find it admirable you're tackling the music. As I recall, it's quite difficult to create music for the NES as it has to be programmed in, correct?


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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #153 on: December 23, 2009, 09:26:28 am »
It is time consuming, but I have the tools, knowledge, and skills to do it.  Maybe the persistence.
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #154 on: December 23, 2009, 07:15:48 pm »
I don't know. I think it would help greatly to have the correct battle music in the game.

For what it's worth, I still have a scratch version of the main battle theme that I was working on way back when.  It's incomplete but maybe someone can take it and finish it.  I'll post the byte block later when I get home from work.

Edit: here it is.  Squares are complete for the whole song.  Triangle is incomplete (and sounds an octave too high).  No drums.

FF7 Battle Theme
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Paste into 0x1B8DD to preview it as the intro song. 
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #155 on: December 23, 2009, 11:05:27 pm »
Awesome. Nice to see you around, tummai. ^_^

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #156 on: December 26, 2009, 02:12:13 am »
Not sure what I can do to help, but I support this project all the way. I may dislike VII, but the amount of effort you're all putting into this is admirable.

I'm quite glad you all decided to try and add VII's music. The music that is currently in this hack is... creepy (at best).
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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #157 on: December 27, 2009, 01:39:05 am »
Thanks for your support, dude! ^_^

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2010, 12:06:34 am »
think this will be done in 2010 sometime?

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Re: Project: FF7 NES Upgrade
« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2010, 01:07:29 am »
I can't comment on done, but definitely SOME work will get done.
The easiest thing to get done will be the graphics, the rest is more... complicated.