Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei 1 & 2

[BRPXQZME]

It's Cronus [Latin] or Kronos (Chronos for you silly people who turn some kappas into 'ch' for Gods know what reasons) [Greek], Okami777. :p

Confusion between Κρόνος (Kronos) and Χρόνος (Chronos). Different names, pronounced the same in modern English.

[King of Dusk]

Great news. I hope everything goes well. I've always wanted to play them in English. Though I find it ironic that this gets announced right after I decide to play through Megami Tensei 2 in Japanese....

And on that note, hate to ask but I'm stuck. Therefore has anyone either...

A. Beaten it, or got pretty far in it and could lend me a hand?
B. Link me to a japanese walkthrough online so I could try and bablefish up some sort of answers?

Thanks.

[KingMike]

There's satsu's partial(?) walkthrough of MT2.
http://sa-two.yuudachi.net/mt2wg/chap3.html

Or else here's a Japanese site with links to many Famicom game guides:
http://fcclear.web.fc2.com/FKL02.htm
(under DEJITARU DEBIRU Monogatari/Story Megami Tensei)

(odd, the packaging for MT2 uses "monogatari" kanji but gives "Story" as the reading)

[King of Dusk]

*Edit* got it working. Now I need to figure things out.

Thanks a lot. You're a life saver.

[granitor]

Am I right in thinking that  Apollon is the same as Apollo, as its the only Greek god I've heard of, or is there another god that fits the bill.

Apollo in Greek is Ἀπόλλων – Apollōn. Not to be confused with Απολλυων – Apollyōn. The one-letter difference may not be all that coincidental, though... after all, the rest of the Revelation of John doesn't have a whole lot of good to say about Greco-Roman values.

I'm not sure, but I think Apollyon refers to a "god of metaphor", or a figure-head created by a mass delusion, a personification of a mass irrationality who isn't real but may as well be since everyone acts as if there were a central influence.

In referring to Revelation of John, I remember people (xian fundamentalists) saying Apollyon and Satan are the same, but since the Catholic church created Satan as a figurehead for evil and shift emphasis from self-actualisation(22) to compliance(4) and rituals of binding(15), there is, metaphorically, a Satan... but Apollyon represents the process of intentionally creating, defining, or using a figurehead who cannot truely exist, rather than any particular ruler in the mythical realm.

Well, I don't remember where I first heard this, so it might just be irrelevant.

[BRPXQZME]

Apollyōn is the angel of the Abyss and stated in the Revelation of John to be called Avaddon in Hebrew ("the Destroyer" or "Destruction" either way). He is the leader of the locust plague unleashed, not on plants of any kind, but rather on those men who "have not the seal of God on their foreheads", and as such, some Christians identify him as a "dark angel" of sorts. Others, however, identify him as Satan or some other fallen angel (because he is in likely the same star that fell from heaven to earth and was given the key to the Abyss in Rev. 9:1).

I don't know where you got the idea that "the Catholic church created Satan as a figurehead for evil". Satan has been around in Christian theology since the beginning of Christianity, practically. It is mostly the modern liberal theology that thinks of Satan as a metaphor only.

I especially don't know where you get the idea that Apollyōn is a "god of metaphor". That's not exactly a... traditional interpretation. And I'm loathe to entertain interpretations that seem off the mark to me.

At any rate, it's still irrelevant to the discussion, which is just naming names.

[Hitoshura]

So... apologies for the bumping but, is there anything new going on with this?

[nomit]

So... apologies for the bumping but, is there anything new going on with this?

The latest post @ The Romhacking Aerie who ddstranslation is a part of said:

Xenosaga & Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei:

No news is good news. Translations are progressing smoothly.

Posted by KaioShin at October 12, 2008

Edit: stupid typo

[odditude]

Apollyōn is the angel of the Abyss and stated in the Revelation of John to be called Avaddon in Hebrew ("the Destroyer" or "Destruction" either way). He is the leader of the locust plague unleashed, not on plants of any kind, but rather on those men who "have not the seal of God on their foreheads", and as such, some Christians identify him as a "dark angel" of sorts.

Also commonly "Abaddon."

[BRPXQZME]

Which has already been mentioned. Do I really need to write several paragraphs arising from the singular issue that Biblical Hebrew had a 'v' and Biblical Greek did not? My walls of text are long enough as is.

[odditude]

sorry, might have missed that brick in the wall of text

[PersonaFan14]

Will this game ever be finished, or is it a dead project?

[Lilinda]

Don't bump a topic just to ask for progress updates again.

[Piotyr]

Damnit made me have hope for an update.

[Killa B]

Xenosaga & Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei:

No news is good news. Translations are progressing smoothly.

I imagine this is still the case.

[BRPXQZME]

There's also this, slightly more recently, from the original blog:

Don't worry, we won't give up on this game.

[Level]

Hi... Kyuuyaku is still in translation or is a death Project ? 

[Vanya]

Don't bump a topic just to ask for progress updates again.

[KingMike]

I think it was in the SRWJ topic, but it sounds like KaioShin dropped his own projects (this game, Devil Children (I think that's Ice & Flame), and Huruhi Suzumiya) because he lost interest in the genre.
But it seems his considering posting his stuff so someone who's interested can finish.

Quote from his page:

So what will happen with those projects I started? That's a good question. I would love it if they were being finished by someone with the skill and motivation to do so. Since I don't have the motivation myself I can't ask anyone else to do it. Maybe I'll just upload anything I have so far on them to the site and if anyone wants to take a look at the stuff, rock on. But I'd have to clear this with the other people who were involved in them first. Except for one scene with a password question Devil Children should be fully playable from start to end. The menues aren't pretty and some are damn glitchy, but it should be playable. Maybe I should just work around that password thing and release what I have, for everyone to use on their own risk? I'm not sure what to do. No promises, no predictions at this point.

I'd imagine if he has any updates on this it'd be posted on his blog.

[Level]

Don't bump a topic just to ask for progress updates again.

I'know... but last update on the blog of KaioShin is dated "October 12, 2008" and the original blog of Kyuuyaku "February 27, 2009"

More than a one year ago, i'm only worry about that 

ok... sorry...