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Chrono Trigger Soundtrack Expansion

Started by PowerPanda, November 20, 2022, 12:34:11 AM

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PowerPanda

That may be true. I imported the song into the retail rom, and tried to match up the instruments. However, I was unable to match up the synth, so I assumed it was a sample that didn't exist in retail. I did notice during my tests on it though that when that instrument was set to silent, there was not a noticeable difference in the way the battle theme sounded.

Anyway, this is a good place to plug that I built CTSE to be expandable, and left room for people to add even more music if they wanted to. You can take the code straight out of the pre-release rom and drop it into a CTSE expanded rom. Then follow the included spreadsheet to find out where you need to place the instrument tables, volume data, and song pointer.

Darío

Here's another idea: can you guys recreate the ending theme from Nuumamonja?

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Although I'm not sure where it could be used, maybe for some of the "joke" endings

PowerPanda

Quote from: DarioEMeloD on February 08, 2023, 12:25:32 AMHere's another idea: can you guys recreate the ending theme from Nuumamonja?
Although I'm not sure where it could be used, maybe for some of the "joke" endings

I don't have an interest in doing that, but if someone else did it, it could be used for the Nu battle in Zeal. I would go as far as to say that if someone else did the work, I'd include it in the next release.

PowerPanda

3 Quick Updates:

1. The CTSE OST is now posted on Youtube, so you can listen to the music while you work or study:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPiuRVA85oZSSjSsNRUlqzSBVF0dNzEEi

2. Unfortunately, it looks like there's something that went wrong with the port to both of the Bugfix and Uncensoring patches by Chronosplit. All other addendum patches are operating well, but those two are going to need a little more work. I hope to put out corrected versions by the end of February.

3. There are 2 mistakes in ALL versions of CTSE.
   * During Crono's trial, when the game flashes back to your actions at the fair, the music will switch to the Millenial Fair theme, instead of the trial.
   * Poyozo Dolls do not play Marle and Lucca's new themes. I honestly didn't even know this was a thing until someone brought it up.
Both of these will be fixed in the next release.

LandoV

I'm very confused about the "CTSE Bugfix Edition - All-In.ips", Is that for (Bugfix + SkyDark + Name Liberties + Aerdan Item Names), or (Bugfix + Name Liberties + Aerdan Item Names), or anything that isn't just the Bug Fixes alone?

PowerPanda

Quote from: LandoV on February 21, 2023, 06:07:00 PMI'm very confused about the "CTSE Bugfix Edition - All-In.ips", Is that for (Bugfix + SkyDark + Name Liberties + Aerdan Item Names), or (Bugfix + Name Liberties + Aerdan Item Names), or anything that isn't just the Bug Fixes alone?

For now, don't use the addendum patches for the Bugfix Editions. Both of them are running into some problems that WILL be easy to fix once I get the time to do it.

Messianic

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Hey there PowerPanda.

I am starting to hack Chrono Trigger and since I plan on using your music patch (but not pre-applied to any areas) along with the bugfix and censoring patch as a base before adding new areas and events and whatnot I wanted to know how to avoid conflicts.

Do you know how much of the expanded space I need to tell Temporal Flux to "block off" and not touch? Where should the new stuff start in the ROM so no conflicts happen?

PowerPanda

I do not know Temporal Flux well enough to be able to tell you that. Reld might have some insight. As stated before, please hold off on using the Bugfix Addendum patches for the time being. Both of them are bugged. I know why and how, but I will need a good solid chunk to be able to fix them, and I've been working on some paid projects recently that have left little time for romhacking. Fixing the addendum patches is first on my list when I'm able to pick up romhacking again, which should be within the next month.

joje

Will this work with any translation?

PowerPanda

Quote from: joje on March 10, 2023, 09:33:35 AMWill this work with any translation?

The "Data Only" version can be added to any Chrono Trigger romhack. This patch simply places the songs in the 46 bank of an expanded rom, and changes all necessary pointers in the base rom. From there, you can use Reld's version of Temporal Flux to place the music in the rom. Because of the way Temporal Flux handles its event edits, every single patch where music is placed within events has to be done separately, from scratch.

PowerPanda

I'm adding this disclaimer again, since both issues came up during a recent review.

THERE ARE 2 KNOWN ISSUES WITH THE 3.0 VERSION
1. In ALL versions of the hack, flashbacks to the Millenial Fair during the trial will cause the fair music to play for the remainder of the trial. This is an unanticipated interaction between the event code of the trial and the music at the fair. This is 100% on me, as I didn't think to test that section of the game after making the changes.
2. This one is really important. THE BUGFIX AND UNCENSORING ADDENDUM PATCHES SHOULD NOT BE USED IN VERSION 3.0. I am going to have to start over from scratch with a clean rom in order to fix the issues with those 2 patches. The way that Chronosplit created these roms means that there are 2 copies of most of the cutscene code, and I edited the wrong copy. It's not a major issue, but it is a time-consuming one.

There are a couple of smaller things too, but nothing that you encounter during the main quest.

I am not ignoring these. My attention has been focused on payed contract work for the past 3 months. Once I finish up that work (and it is nearing completion), fixing this patch is #1 on my list.

BlazeHeatnix

In the scene where After the Battle plays, it's wonderful, but by the time the scene switches to the End of Time, I really think Crono's Theme/Chrono Trigger should be playing again.

PowerPanda

Quote from: BlazeHeatnix on March 15, 2023, 01:53:10 PMIn the scene where After the Battle plays, it's wonderful, but by the time the scene switches to the End of Time, I really think Crono's Theme/Chrono Trigger should be playing again.

I'm planning on making that change.