Seiken Densetsu 3 (aka Trials of Mana) Hacks Discussion

[nosynose]

Sounds counterproductive; if there was a aggro meter system it should imo be mostly predictable.
RNG chance to randomly reset is wouldn't be.

Oh, right, I forgot that such aggro meter is probably raised by the hits. If full reset is deemed too unpredictable, then just -1 point should still give a little variability in battle. Or even better, zero point. Whenever it being triggered, no aggro point will be added to the aggro meter.

10 points of LUCK = 10% of all hits don't increase the aggro meter, but the rest of them, 90%, do increase it.

[Mr X]

I am not sure why Level 3 techs/spells freeze the game in the bug fix even more frequently than in Sin of Mana, I am only at the second Bill and Ben fight and already the third time that happened (once vs Machine Golems 2, twice in the second Bill and Ben fight), while in an entire Sin of Mana run I had it happened only once.

Other patches I applied - hmsong exp patch

I am using a translated rom, but I still downloaded one of those programs to remove the header before applying the patches to make sure.

Edit: probably would be wiser to test it with a japanese rom as it's suggested, good luck navigating the item storage list unless you know japanese 
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Another thing I noticed is Level 2/3 techs doing 1 damage when using a saber spell.

Not that I mind, when hitting for weakness I still use level 1 techs anyway

Another edit: same problem with the jap rom screen freezing when playing the bugfix version, that's especially fun when that happens on the black rabite for the third time

[hmsong]

@Kartal

You sent me a personal message, but apparently, you are blocking personal message from me, so I'm unable to reply to you.  I'm not sure why/how that's happening, but I assume you want answers to your questions, so unblock me.  I'll reply once you do so.

Maybe your inbox is full.

[praetarius5018]

I am not sure why Level 3 techs/spells freeze the game in the bug fix even more frequently than in Sin of Mana, I am only at the second Bill and Ben fight and already the third time that happened (once vs Machine Golems 2, twice in the second Bill and Ben fight), while in an entire Sin of Mana run I had it happened only once.

Depends; how often do you reload in either version?
Knowing the stuff I did I take in sin you reloaded much more often which resets the mem leak or whatever the issue behind this is.

Another thing I noticed is Level 2/3 techs doing 1 damage when using a saber spell.

Which saber on which monster?
If they are immune to the element it returns 1 damage.

[Mr X]

Depends; how often do you reload in either version?
Knowing the stuff I did I take in sin you reloaded much more often which resets the mem leak or whatever the issue behind this is.

I did close the game a couple of times abd reopened it, or reloaded the game from the snes9x menu as one of the ready files.

So to prevent this from happening do you suggest to close the game and then open it manually? Or if it happens will patching another rom fix the issue also till it occurs again?

Which saber on which monster?
If they are immune to the element it returns 1 damage.

I was using Thunder Saber when fighting Mispolm, used a level 2 tech resulting in 1 damage, even tho he is weak to Air

But besides that makes sense why level 2/3 tech did 1 damage on Dolan with Moon Saber, or Dragon Emperor after he casted flare, my moon saber covered party did 1 damage with level 2/3 techs until I applied anti-magic

[praetarius5018]

I did close the game a couple of times abd reopened it, or reloaded the game from the snes9x menu as one of the ready files.

So to prevent this from happening do you suggest to close the game and then open it manually? Or if it happens will patching another rom fix the issue also till it occurs again?

I meant reloading via ingame save/load menu.

I was using Thunder Saber when fighting Mispolm, used a level 2 tech resulting in 1 damage, even tho he is weak to Air

But besides that makes sense why level 2/3 tech did 1 damage on Dolan with Moon Saber, or Dragon Emperor after he casted flare, my moon saber covered party did 1 damage with level 2/3 techs until I applied anti-magic

For L2/3 techs I made all of immune, absorb and reflect just deal 1 damage; if mispolm used countermagic he reflects most elements including wind.

[Mr X]

I meant reloading via ingame save/load menu.

Yeah I think I did that once at least unintentionally

For L2/3 techs I made all of immune, absorb and reflect just deal 1 damage; if mispolm used countermagic he reflects most elements including wind.

Ok so this is normal/intended behavior then, neat

[VicVergil]

For fan translation, text errors.  For official, some of the names that I just didn't like.

The font is easily editable in either version, but the problem lies with the text. It's compressed. However no tools for uncompressing it were ever made public, so you can't really fix the translation until it does.

[hmsong]

The font is easily editable in either version, but the problem lies with the text. It's compressed. However no tools for uncompressing it were ever made public, so you can't really fix the translation until it does.

Yeah.  Kinda expected that.

[soul_knight]

Grr.  The anticipation of the new version is killing me.  Really looking forward to trying it out.

Btw, can anyone recommend me a good action rpg and/or action adventure for SNES or NDS?

[MD_Prometh]

Soul Blazer is a good shout, even if the translation is pretty poor.

[Messianic]

Grr.  The anticipation of the new version is killing me.  Really looking forward to trying it out.

Btw, can anyone recommend me a good action rpg and/or action adventure for SNES or NDS?

I hear the ROM hack of Earthbound called Mother 2 Deluxe 2.0 is pretty good. https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2518/

[soul_knight]

Thanks.  I already played Earthbound (which is Mother 2), but that's not action rpg nor action adventure.  That's just straight up rpg.

I haven't tried Soul Blazer.  I heard about it, but I don't know anything about it.  I shall give that a go.  Thanks.

[praetarius5018]

Btw, can anyone recommend me a good action rpg and/or action adventure for SNES or NDS?

If you've not tried it yet I'd suggest you give Terranigma a try.

[Vanya]

And Illusion of Gaia, too.
In fact, I suggest playing them in the order they were released.
Blazer -> Illusion -> Terra

[soul_knight]

Thanks.  I played both Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma.  I didn't know the 3 games were related.  Didn't particularly like Gaia, but Terranigma was absolute a blast.  Loved it so much.  Did all of sidequests too.

[Zimgief]

Equinox!
It' a bit rough around the edges, but very fun. I higly suggest that you draw a map on paper along your playthrough.
Of course it comes after Terranigma and Illusion of Gaïa (but I liked it better than Soul Blazer).

Brandish 2 is not an action-adventure but a semi-real time action adventure if I may say. It is not exactly what you asked, but it's one of my favourite games, so I give it a shout out nonetheless.

[hmsong]

@soul_knight

Pff.  If you want action rpg, then you really should try Front Mission Gun Hazard.  It's sort of like Castlevania SOTN, since you can explore all the maps (as long as you "unlock" those maps), and you buy/sell/equip multiple parts.  And obviously, you level up as you kill more enemies (and you can grind for more exp if you want).  It's probably the first action rpg metroidvania that uses level up system, even before SOTN.

And yes, it's insanely good.  I'm sure others can tell you how good it is.

[the_grobe]

And yes, it's insanely good.  I'm sure others can tell you how good it is.

seconded.  seriously good. 

[Mr X]

@soul_knight

Pff.  If you want action rpg, then you really should try Front Mission Gun Hazard.  It's sort of like Castlevania SOTN, since you can explore all the maps (as long as you "unlock" those maps), and you buy/sell/equip multiple parts.  And obviously, you level up as you kill more enemies (and you can grind for more exp if you want).  It's probably the first action rpg metroidvania that uses level up system, even before SOTN.

And yes, it's insanely good.  I'm sure others can tell you how good it is.

Sounds like a hidden gem, I never heard of it till now (tho I am not well versed on games too much lol).

Looks neat from what I saw. I might give it a try later