11 March 2016 - Forum Rules
Started by Special, June 14, 2021, 02:43:48 AM
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 08:25:18 AMOkay, but look.Can't you accept another kind of non-moving splash screen with a background image?You really considere THAT intrusive something like that?
QuoteIf the thing is so distorted and unfaithful like your Niponologist friend says you have my blessings, of course. I remove you the splash screen (if you have not done it by yourself already). But let me see some material about those distorsions so I can make myself an idea of the dimension of the problem. If the thing is serious I will help in whatever I can.I could even use that for retranslating my own Spanish translation (even though you can't imagine how lazy I feel about that idea).
Quote from: why3132456 on June 21, 2021, 08:52:38 AMconsider not making such simple mistakes in your post.
Quote from: why3132456if you admitted to being a non-native speaker
Quote from: RodMeridaI have been my whole life studying languages, including English (but not only English). But I'm not native.
Quote from: RodMeridaThat means I'm probably not so qualified for making a professional translation to English (I may sound 'foreigner' at some moment, without noticing)
Quote from: why3132456 on June 21, 2021, 08:52:38 AMbut as a translator, you might want to take more feedback.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 20, 2021, 03:23:19 PMThat's why I don't make translation to English, but FROM English to my own native language, Spanish.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 03:34:31 AMThat means I'm probably not so qualified for making a professional translation to English
Quote from: why3132456 on June 21, 2021, 08:52:38 AMif you admitted to being a non-native speaker with little experience (I was once a non-native speaker too)
Quote from: Chicken Knife on June 21, 2021, 09:26:48 AMOur whole agenda is that of removing arbitrary alterations or additions by western sources, be that by localizers or hackers. We did maintain a few western improvements to the games which we felt brought genuine value, but even with those, I'm open to providing options to remove them down the road. We are not interested in maintaining alterations just for the sake of. We want a product that presents like an authentic release that could have been. A static screen won't cut it, unfortunately. We are more than happy to provide credits to any contributor, props on the publish page description, in the readme notes, etc.I appreciate you taking translation integrity seriously and being open to exploring these matters. More to come.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 10:48:19 AMLast time I port anything from Spanish to English. But then I remind you are not 'native'. You're just an anglosaxon newbie.(For respect to other people, I think it's enough with falacia ad hominem and metalinguistic off-topics).
Quote from: svenge on June 21, 2021, 02:00:53 PMI find it amusing when your sort tries wielding "anxglosaxon" [sic] as an insult. At least we Anglo-Saxons haven't spent the last 300+ years on a long terminal decline to geopolitical and cultural irrelevance.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 20, 2021, 04:50:40 PMWhat are those DQ3 bugs that you say, by the way? That interests me. Could you list them to me?
Quote from: saldite on June 20, 2021, 05:06:14 PMOn DQ3, the big one is a save issue if you save with somebody other than the hero in the first party slot. It's a pretty bug-free patch overall, but I know I got hit by that one on accident myself and it killed my progress at the time I played it. You can see it in action here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvcRr8uN2sQ The readme mentions something with spellnames and text overflows, but the save one is the big one I ran into (and pretty easy to avoid if you know about it).
Quote from: goldenband on June 21, 2021, 03:25:21 PMI'd forgotten that the Dragon Quest VI patch was flat-out unfinished!
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 06:58:10 AMYes. Nothing can change TERRA was TINA, but TERRA improved it. Unless you prefere to play reminding "Tina Turner". Come on, don't compare TERRA, so enigmatic, so mystic name, with... "TINA", that sounds to a pop star. Who preferes that? Only in Japan where Tina doesn't have those silly pop-starry connotations.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 06:58:10 AMGrandleon is very beautiful, though.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 06:58:10 AMBut Magus, it's much better than... "Mao" (Tse Tung, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Mao Tse Tung! Do you imagine playing that way? It's impossible. There is even a bear trademark that is "Mahou". There is "LMAO". There are many things: no, it's impossible to restore Magus to Mao after having been improved to something so beautiful and Middle Ages-like as "Magus" is, that sounds to a mix of Latin and the Arabic or Persian word "Majūs"; it sounds to sorcery!).
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 06:58:10 AMAnother example: Schala and... Sara! LOLOLOLOLOL. It seems my neighbour! 10000 years ago there is Sara? How come?
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 06:58:10 AMIf everybody drives in a country by right, you can't drive by left! You need to adapt and be normal!
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 10:48:19 AMChicken Knife. It's not the same inside the ROM than in a Readme. Because the Readme can be easily erased, removed or lost, or won't be there if somebody records the game in a cartridge, but inside the ROM it's called to be conserved.Something inside the ROM that is not too invasive with the game is a warranty of immortalizing it.That's why splash screens are important.They are not invasive with the game and you don't need to wait until final ending credits after completing the game for being known, so everybody will see who made it.Imagine, with so many webpages that may take the patched ROM and put it for download, after decades who will remind who was there in the readme? Few people.
Quote from: Chicken Knife on June 21, 2021, 04:30:49 PMWhat about working with the credits of the game itself? As far as a means of achieving perpetuity, I think it's more subtle, tactful, and less likely to inspire dissent. I haven't done it personally, but I've never been bothered by seeing it. And truthfully, your point about leaving a mark is compelling to me. We've tended to work with restoring localized versions of western releases rather than translating directly from the Japanese release, so it would be reasonable to wipe out the localization team's names, as we wiped out most of what they did anyway. Working with the Japanese credits might require a bit more creativity. In any case, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the idea.
Quote from: Red SoulI personally think this is the most elegant way to do it. Credit is given where it's due without truly altering the presentation.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 04:52:20 PMThere is already my name/Crackowia's in the credits of DQ1+2, but I didn't want to erase RPGone's people, and that way my betatester, Vicks Dg, doesn't fit.Anyway I have improved the thing. You'll see it in next update.
Quote from: saldite on June 21, 2021, 03:51:04 PMYeah, that one's really unfortunate. I lack the skills myself to tackle any project like that, but would definitely love to see it. It seems like it's been left at the wayside over time after the DS version came out, which is a shame as the SNES version definitely has its own charms and differences with many still claiming it's the best one due to being an incredibly pretty SNES game, the OST differences, monster catching mechanics, etc. It's finishable from beginning to end on SNES, but not fully polished.Having a bug-fixed version with even simple translations for the unfinished/dummied stuff would be really dope. I remember Tom on twitter mentioned a possible interest in hitting it at some point with DDS, but I get the impression that's up in the air.
Quote from: goldenband on June 21, 2021, 05:21:17 PMI agree! I've seen a few comments along the lines of "just play the DS version", which seems to assume that the SNES/SFC release doesn't have anything unique to offer -- a bold claim if the person hasn't verified that themselves. And of course, some of us just don't own a DS and aren't interested in emulating one; speaking for myself, I mostly stick to older hardware, as that's the era and style of gaming I love and I enjoy focusing on specific console libraries.
Quote from: Red Soul on June 21, 2021, 05:33:27 PMI played DQ5 SNES quite a bit, but not DQ6.I'm curious, what are some of the unique aspects of the SNES version?
Quote from: KingMike on June 21, 2021, 05:51:43 PMEveryone stop making personal attacks or this thread will be locked.
Quote from: RodMerida on June 21, 2021, 05:54:42 PMThank you.June 21, 2021, 06:44:55 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)New patch 1.03c with new static splash screen and new fixings ready! At last! Nobody will have to suffer anymore because of the spinning screen.It's been sent to the submitting queue, but it can be meanwhile got from here: http://crackowia.gq/dqust1n2.html(More information about such fixings in the readme or the submitting queue).
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