11 March 2016 - Forum Rules
Started by reconstructingmana, June 02, 2020, 02:13:32 AM
Quote from: artflue on July 13, 2020, 08:06:35 AMWow! A -lot- of thought went into adding back the lore into the Augmented script. This one I'm genuinely looking forward to reading.My memory of game 1 and 2 script details is flaky. But it sounds like the Empire and the Mana protectors are all acting on theory. No one has tried or done it, just doing actions from alleged religion, philosophy, mythology about the Hidden Land and the Seeds. It's been way too long (?) between 1 and 2 so everything is kinda forgotten and muddied up down the verbal lore inheritance.Only towards the end do both sides get a grasp and figure out the important pieces of the grand puzzle. Desperation for one side and knowledge / power by the other.And maybe it depends on the user. The good users want to protect, preserve the life in the Seed by sealing and limiting access. The bad users want to absorb the Seeds dry and leave nothing but it to wither until nature generates new Seeds to correct the unbalance.
SHADE:I am Shade, the elemental of darkness and f'rm'r king of the und'rw'rld, eke known as Mavolia. I did cause the w'rld to trembleth in fear.RANDI:Mavolia? What kind of powers does the underworld have?SHADE:Mavolia exists due to the chains of ang'r, envy, resentment and negative feelings towards oth'rs. There, pow'r is life. It is proclaimed that those with strength ruleth the weak. Indeed: Ang'r, envy, resentment...These negative emotions art what feedeth the subjugation of less'r beings and they tempeth humans into defiling their souls with darkness. At which hour a human maketh a contract with Mavolia, those humans gain the pow'r they seek in exchange f'r their pure heart. Anon, they're in the darkness and doth not wish f'r tranquility. They may resideth in the human realm, but their p'rson is reclaim'd by the un'rw'rld. Alas, mine own pow'rs w're seal'd hence by h'roes in the Ancient past. But you lot, who is't defeat'd the incarnation of this pow'r must be the new h'roes. In acc'rdance with the laws of Mavolia, my powers art bestow'd upon all of thee!
EMPEROR:Kukuku...I thought it was about time you got here. But, no one will get in my way! If all those seals you spent so much time on were dissolved, the Ancient continent would be "sunken" no more! So we went ahead and did just that! While you were strolling about the globe, we made our own sort of offering at the Palaces. Your quest is in vain! But actually, there is one seal left that you didn't even get to---the one right here at the Tree Palace! Once we dissolve it, the continent will surface and the Mana Fortress will be resurrected! I regret that I won't be able to show it to you. Kukuku...
Ku ku ku, I expected that you would arrive soon. However, I won't allow you to stand in my way! If the seals on the Temples throughout the world are dissolved, what has until now been called the "sunken" ancient continent will rise to the surface! Already, the seals on the temples throughout the world have been undone. The last one is here. With this, the Mana Fortress will be resurrected! It's a shame that you won't be able to see it. Ku ku ku...
EMPEROR:So glad to see you! You're going to like this. The ancient continent will surface once I've broken all the palace seals. Once I break this last seal, the Mana Fortress will rise! Too bad you won't be around!
Right on schedule. I thought you'd turn up. The ancient continent will surface once I've broken all the palace seals throughout the world. This is the last one. With this, the Mana Fortress will rise again! Too bad you won't be around to savor the sight.
QuoteOne of the things we uncovered in Japanese sources was that the Emperor started the contract with Mavolia thing solely to win the war against Tasnica and Pandora 15 years prior. This goes along with the "bad users" wanting to use the Mana Seeds as a result of evil in their hearts...or whatever.
QuoteAs for the original problem, after much discussion, we all agreed that sealing the Mana Seeds and powering the Mana Sword happen simultaneously. Basically, Randi reseals the Seeds, and then the Empire went back and unsealed them. That's the best explanation as to why Luka's in prison at the end. It's hinted at in the Japanese script, but like many things, did not find its way into English....So we went ahead and did just that! While you were strolling about the globe, we made our own sort of offering at the Palaces.
Quote from: artflue on July 13, 2020, 01:46:04 PMYour rewrite is well thought out! Refreshing to read the updated lines. Comes off more as poetry now. Just that small new information expands new horizons on what's going on behind.With all the information your group can uncover, it'd almost make sense to have a "novelization" of some sort covering all the material. That'd be hours of worthy reading.
QuoteSounds like the Emperor got frustrated and hit a solid roadblock in the war? Once he learned about Mavolia, he had a shiny new toy to use. Got over-obsessed with what he could do with it and naturally got greedy and wanted more. Once that black stain got in, it won't come out. Was he originally that evil before the tainting? I'm not sure.
QuoteDid the Emperor take his time undoing the seals again in a more "proper", "iron-clad" way? Like in a stealthy, not obvious way to grab attention.Or did they use military tactics and just "ambush" all the sites at once towards the end to avoid another tug-of-war with the heroes? I'm assuming at that time the Mana Knights maybe had such a narrow focus and were "over-confident" by their earlier victories. A "sleight of hand" by the Emperor in case "Plan A" failed.
LUKA:Whew, I've really had a rough time! Such incredible effrontery! Some of the Empire's cronies came here, locked me up, and dissolved the seal on the Mana Seed...again! The seals on the Mana Seeds can not be broken if thou wish to restore the Sword! I'm not sure what can be done as I don't know any other way to restore it. And I shudder to think what will happen if the Fortress returns and the Sword is not powerful enough to defeat it. I guess there's nothing left to do but wait for a miracle. Also, POPOIE, thou shouldst check in on your grandfather! They must have gone back to the Wind Palace too...
LUKA:Whew, I've really had a rough time! Such unbelievable insolence! Some of the Empire's cronies came here, locked me up in here, and undid the seal on the Mana Seed. If the seals on the Mana Seeds are all dissolved before you can revive the Mana Sword, I don't know that we'd be able to do anything. There'd be nothing left to do but wait for a miracle...
POPOIE:Gramps! I'm so glad to see you're all right!GRANDPA:Yes, chibi. They came to break your seal, but this time, I sensed that they were coming and hid out in the woods. Now go, restore Mana!
Quote from: knderia on July 14, 2020, 12:51:14 PMWould it be possible to insert extra NPCs or in-game books, diaries that add all the interesting fun details you uncovered that didn't make the script?
Quote from: lexluthermiester on November 19, 2020, 02:31:37 AMBy way of bug report: In Potos village just after you beat Mantis Ant and the knight is talking about the water palace, he refers to Luka but the word "Sage" is instead something else. Looks like a spelling error.
Quote from: 1684JEMA:The hour is athand! The time hascome for you to soar tothe Mana Fortress.Every foe you haveencountered, everyordeal you have enduredhas prepared you forthis moment. Whoknows what you willface, but you must neverwaiver, brave knight ofthe Mana Sword!
Quote from: 1596RANDI:Mom...I...mymom, .........
Quote from: 1618DYLUCK:Uhh...ooh...where am I...? , ...
Quote from: 1593...but we finally met!After everything, wewere finally able to meet, but, Answer me,please! ...
Quote from: 1585Women of our clan,having borne futuregenerations, have it astheir fate to become theMana Tree like me, andcontinue to watch overthe world...
Quote from: 1548RANDI:Wow! There'sa shield around it! Let'sget out of here for now!
Quote from: 1512RANDIX:Woah! We'redeep in the ManaFortress...And...Geshtar! You survived!?
Quote from: 1503RANDI:We? There'ssomeone else?
QuoteRANDI:"We?" Whoelse is here?
Quote from: 1484We've appropriated asecret code from theenemy. "Red-Blue-Yellow-Green." ...whatcould it mean?
Quote from: 1475FANHA:I see you'vecome. Well, this time,you will suffocate...likethis...!
Quote from: FANHA"Allow me the honorof choking the life out ofyou. Prepare for yourend..."
Quote from: lexluthermiesterIt would seem that this project is not compatible with the 9-item patch. Is there a chance of integrating it in an update? Or perhaps making a version that would be compatible?
Quote from: Queue on November 19, 2020, 03:18:48 AMWhile I didn't literally try applying the 9-item limit patch, I double-checked its changes versus what Reborn changes and there should be no conflict. What went wrong?
Quotewaiver should be waver
QuoteNot sure if this typo is in the game or not, but RANDI is misspelled
QuoteWe should be in quotes here, like in the Woolsey script:
QuoteIt seems that your notes contradict yourself here. You say that "there is no direct history between [Randi and Fahna]", but the dialogue seems to imply that they really have met before.
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