Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Project (SNES) - Playable Sheeva,8 stages added!!!

[Pethronos]

Sorry Lucas, but I have to agree with niuus about the silent update. We users don't memorize hack descriptions, so if you update the description simply adding a new feature (without pointing it as "LAST UPDATE" or something like that) we users have to remember the outdated description in order to guess what was changed or added. Changelog and Latest Updated Hacks pages only say "FINAL", like many other prior updates. It's not hard to understand.

That said, don't take it badly. We thank you a lot for your hard work, since it's thanks to you that Snes UMK3 is a much more complete piece of software.

[niuus]

03 - My Youtube channel will come back with the videos, but not out of obligation as I have no obligation about it, although I have been threatened if I didn't put more Mortal Kombat videos (this is so disgusting), I'll come back with what I like to do.

Strange drama. Just ignore the haters and do what you want with your videos or hacks. 

04 - Which user patched MSU-1 for this hack that I'm not aware of, did you bring it here for me? Now that's SILENT. And if the game is complete, show me Shao Kahn by giving the character names  ?

This kinda reads as a weird bad joke  . You can see your post here where you acknowledge the existence of a fix: (May 17)

say this because I saw problems in the Temple stage, which someone has already fixed by changing the location of adding the MSU-1)

You never credited said user (Conn) nor the forum where the fix is (ohh, silent fixes ), but i did found out anyway, and even saw your message there, where you claimed nobody reported the Chapel bug with MSU-1. That's strange as it was already mentioned by RealGaea last december:

From testing, MSU-1 works, but...

This is the only stage glitched.

But I can't expect more from a guy who literally said: "If you want UMK3 Arcade, play Arcade, not SNES."

I don't think you were ill intended, maybe just forgot, but at least people here in romhacking now knows that both hacks can be run at the same time thanks to Conn. Ironically enough, i was the first one that mentioned that this hack exists in that thread where the fix was published. 

05 - I had several reasons for deleting my videos from Youtube, and even so you should thank you for having someone who took care of each restoration in this game in detail, such as scenarios, some sounds, Sheeva, among so many other things, besides having total charity in sharing most of the acquired knowledge, through tutorial videos and in the forum. I haven't seen anyone else in Brazil or elsewhere produce.

I don't need explanations for the use of your Youtube channel, lol. You do you. I do wish you good luck on your music career!

Sorry Lucas, but I have to agree with niuus about the silent update. We users don't memorize hack descriptions, so if you update the description simply adding a new feature (without pointing it as "LAST UPDATE" or something like that) we users have to remember the outdated description in order to guess what was changed or added. Changelog and Latest Updated Hacks pages only say "FINAL", like many other prior updates. It's not hard to understand.

That's the only thing i pointed out, and made it clear that it wasn't an unforgivable sin, other hackers out there commit the same correctable mistake. This UMK3 Deluxe hack has been "Final" since january (i collected at least 4 updates when it was UMK3 Project, they were all named 1.3, i may have missed more silent patches along the way, until it finally reached "1.4 FINAL" at the end of May 2020, then 1.4.1, 1.4.2, then "DELUXE FINAL"  ...)

No one should expect all users to be keeping up with RH.net changelog in order to try and be updated, nor memorize hack descriptions. I am merely sharing the obscure news with other normal users that are not familiarized with all the corner's of the website, so they can all enjoy a more complete UMK3 experience.

[Lucas Dext5r]

Sorry Lucas, but I have to agree with niuus about the silent update. We users don't memorize hack descriptions, so if you update the description simply adding a new feature (without pointing it as "LAST UPDATE" or something like that) we users have to remember the outdated description in order to guess what was changed or added. Changelog and Latest Updated Hacks pages only say "FINAL", like many other prior updates. It's not hard to understand.

That said, don't take it badly. We thank you a lot for your hard work, since it's thanks to you that Snes UMK3 is a much more complete piece of software.

Well, first of all thank you Pethronos for the clarification, but for me these situations are still confusing at times, and really all updates were available on my channel for about 2 weeks before I removed the content. For you to have an idea, I only came to see your answer today, TWO days later. I'm quite busy with a few things, planning tutorials, trying to get deeper into English to understand the placements on the site, and dedicating myself to this project as much as possible. A hug now, and don't see me as an bad people.
June 16, 2021, 11:11:22 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

Strange drama. Just ignore the haters and do what you want with your videos or hacks. 
This kinda reads as a weird bad joke  . You can see your post here where you acknowledge the existence of a fix: (May 17)
You never credited said user (Conn) nor the forum where the fix is (ohh, silent fixes ), but i did found out anyway, and even saw your message there, where you claimed nobody reported the Chapel bug with MSU-1. That's strange as it was already mentioned by RealGaea last december:

I don't think you were ill intended, maybe just forgot, but at least people here in romhacking now knows that both hacks can be run at the same time thanks to Conn. Ironically enough, i was the first one that mentioned that this hack exists in that thread where the fix was published. 
I don't need explanations for the use of your Youtube channel, lol. You do you. I do wish you good luck on your music career!
That's the only thing i pointed out, and made it clear that it wasn't an unforgivable sin, other hackers out there commit the same correctable mistake. This UMK3 Deluxe hack has been "Final" since january (i collected at least 4 updates when it was UMK3 Project, they were all named 1.3, i may have missed more silent patches along the way, until it finally reached "1.4 FINAL" at the end of May 2020, then 1.4.1, 1.4.2, then "DELUXE FINAL"  ...)

No one should expect all users to be keeping up with RH.net changelog in order to try and be updated, nor memorize hack descriptions. I am merely sharing the obscure news with other normal users that are not familiarized with all the corner's of the website, so they can all enjoy a more complete UMK3 experience.

Niuus, I confess that such a long text was quite unnecessary (and full of forced emojis lol), that I honestly felt lazy to read it... but I read it, and I disagree with several placements!

01 - I wouldn't say the YouTube drama was weird, yes real (and for the 2nd time), that is tiring. "No one should expect all users to follow the RH.net changelog to try and get updated, nor to memorize hack descriptions." Show me where I said users should follow a changelog or memorize hack descriptions.

02 - It was not a "weird joke", but in fact something that I couldn't remember, but that Pethronos or others users would certainly have put it in a less forceful way. "I don't need explanations for the use of your Youtube channel" .. completely agree, however I reported something that focused on the game's development and my availability.

03 - How could I have credited a person I don't know, or didn't contact me (Conn) about the correction made? And for your information, I posted on the forum (Zeldix) that no one had reported to me about Chapel's bug, because until then I hadn't translated this term, being for me something different that I've always interpreted only as "The Temple"... Only then did I see that it was the temple/church/chapel stage. (I still don't know why go back to all these questions, is it because you didn't have the slightest contribution in the hack  )?

04 - Another important thing I wanted to say is that I've NEVER played any MSU-1 version, it's something delicious, but I'm not fanatical about it. Also, if people create MSU-1 versions of Deluxe then it becomes an UNOFFICIAL Rom Hack as I have not released or published it on the site. This is bad? No, I'm only saying this because the hack was 99.9% developed by me, and 0,01 percent by other people with MSU-1 versions.t, so if people don't report silent updates to me, I won't be able to credit people who don't contact me or form a team with me.

05 - "This UMK3 Deluxe hack has been "Final" since january (i collected at least 4 updates when it was UMK3 Project, they were all named 1.3, i may have missed more silent patches along the way, until it finally reached "1.4 FINAL" at the end of May 2020, then 1.4.1, 1.4.2, then "DELUXE FINAL"...)" Brilliant, man! But it didn't pay attention, because it also had a version 1.4.3 (Name "Sheeva Wins", noob clone for Idels). And guess what... all this done by just one people, with so little resource. ^^, and who experienced a depression in the transition from 2020 to 2021 (oops, sorry, that's just drama for you).


06 - If I republished that it was the final version a few times, and it wasn't, it was simply because I wanted to improve even more what was missing. Throw the first stone, who wished it were really my last version... I hope I don't have to worry about that anymore, and i will no longer continue this conversation. A hug for everyone who really expects a complete [and human] experience from UMK3 for SNES, without having to embarrass the other people.

[niuus]

Well, first of all thank you Pethronos for the clarification, but for me these situations are still confusing at times, and really all updates were available on my channel for about 2 weeks before I removed the content. For you to have an idea, I only came to see your answer today, TWO days later. I'm quite busy with a few things, planning tutorials, trying to get deeper into English to understand the placements on the site, and dedicating myself to this project as much as possible. A hug now, and don't see me as an bad people.
June 16, 2021, 11:11:22 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Niuus, I confess that such a long text was quite unnecessary (and full of forced emojis lol), that I honestly felt lazy to read it... but I read it, and I disagree with several placements!

01 - I wouldn't say the YouTube drama was weird, yes real (and for the 2nd time), that is tiring. "No one should expect all users to follow the RH.net changelog to try and get updated, nor to memorize hack descriptions." Show me where I said users should follow a changelog or memorize hack descriptions.

02 - It was not a "weird joke", but in fact something that I couldn't remember, but that Pethronos or others users would certainly have put it in a less forceful way. "I don't need explanations for the use of your Youtube channel" .. completely agree, however I reported something that focused on the game's development and my availability.

03 - How could I have credited a person I don't know, or didn't contact me (Conn) about the correction made? And for your information, I posted on the forum (Zeldix) that no one had reported to me about Chapel's bug, because until then I hadn't translated this term, being for me something different that I've always interpreted only as "The Temple"... Only then did I see that it was the temple/church/chapel stage. (I still don't know why go back to all these questions, is it because you didn't have the slightest contribution in the hack  )?

04 - Another important thing I wanted to say is that I've NEVER played any MSU-1 version, it's something delicious, but I'm not fanatical about it. Also, if people create MSU-1 versions of Deluxe then it becomes an UNOFFICIAL Rom Hack as I have not released or published it on the site. This is bad? No, I'm only saying this because the hack was 99.9% developed by me, and 0,01 percent by other people with MSU-1 versions.t, so if people don't report silent updates to me, I won't be able to credit people who don't contact me or form a team with me.

05 - "This UMK3 Deluxe hack has been "Final" since january (i collected at least 4 updates when it was UMK3 Project, they were all named 1.3, i may have missed more silent patches along the way, until it finally reached "1.4 FINAL" at the end of May 2020, then 1.4.1, 1.4.2, then "DELUXE FINAL"...)" Brilliant, man! But it didn't pay attention, because it also had a version 1.4.3 (Name "Sheeva Wins", noob clone for Idels). And guess what... all this done by just one people, with so little resource. ^^, and who experienced a depression in the transition from 2020 to 2021 (oops, sorry, that's just drama for you).


06 - If I republished that it was the final version a few times, and it wasn't, it was simply because I wanted to improve even more what was missing. Throw the first stone, who wished it were really my last version... I hope I don't have to worry about that anymore, and i will no longer continue this conversation. A hug for everyone who really expects a complete [and human] experience from UMK3 for SNES, without having to embarrass the other people.

Throwing a bible of drama, victimization and explanations which you keep updating is just being dense, man. You completely diverted from the main subject which was a trivial comment about silent updates, you did not have to get offended by such a simple thing, as Pethronos said, It's not hard to understand. Again, do well with your musical stuff and be happy! And forget about those who threat you for rom hacking stuff! 

[Noside]

He kinda did the same thing when I posted about an issue in the game, but oh well.

[Lucas Dext5r]

Throwing a bible of drama, victimization and explanations which you keep updating is just being dense, man. You completely diverted from the main subject which was a trivial comment about silent updates, you did not have to get offended by such a simple thing, as Pethronos said, It's not hard to understand. Again, do well with your musical stuff and be happy! And forget about those who threat you for rom hacking stuff! 

Man, you don't carry the responsibilities and difficulties that I do, so you'll have no idea what "drama or victimization" is.. I answered everything you brought here about the main subject (because you were the one who created an extremely gigantic text). It's also not "hard" to understand that what it's like to carry the responsibility of something big alone, . Thanks for the congratulations on my musical work, but I don't make it a job, just a hobby. About haters and threats, I'm not paying attention anymore. Niuus, I wanted you to forgive me for my comment when you posted about silent updates or when it was named "just" as final. I understood that I was just bringing in updates and making them silent or not caring that they were seen. As I said, I don't have much knowledge about how hack updates are structured and released to the public, and I haven't completely adapted to the site either. .
I also need the translator to communicate here [because it is worth mentioning that I speak in Portuguese], I often need more than one translation platform so that the messages don't have "translations" contrary as sometimes happens. I was just unhappy in my comment, and I recognize that, but don't judge me for misunderstanding.

June 18, 2021, 11:40:42 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

He kinda did the same thing when I posted about an issue in the game, but oh well.

I understand, but you only came back to comment here because you had this discomfort in the topics, but most of the time you don't manifest, right? It could also bring some suggestions or contributions during the discussions. Some time ago, some user (I don't know if it's you) said that the game crashed just because Sheeva jumped on the ground (in Rooftop), I thought it was strange, but i reviewed the entire game for days, and i didn't find it. Some time later i received private messages on the forum from some users saying that I didn't know how to do anything and that the SNES didn't have "the power of the mega drive" (it's saved here, 12/28/2020). I will have the humility to apologize if I was inconvenient in some placements, but after so many experiences from all of this (be it threats, lack of a team on the project, haters attacks and judgments, even dedicating myself to the the maximum), I started to be more rigid in relation to some users and situations.

I would like to clear this whole situation here, as this whole subject is quite stressful, and really be able to focus on the development and news of the hack. If someone has the solidarity to work with me on this project, and wants to help me with sounds, sprites, ASM and other things, express themselves by private message or whatever you want, That would make things extremely peaceful, and i don't want to work on it alone.

[Noside]

I don't roll like you do, I just make simple statements and this is a free forum to comment and reply but I just noticed, it seems like you use a translator to undestand and reply which it sums up all the things going on around here.

[Lucas Dext5r]

I don't roll like you do, I just make simple statements and this is a free forum to comment and reply but I just noticed, it seems like you use a translator to undestand and reply which it sums up all the things going on around here.

"I don't roll like you," I didn't understand what you meant, but that's okay. That here is a free forum to comment and reply I already know, and once again made it clear that you didn't make the slightest contribution. In addition, your comment is more related to returning old situations, than bringing an adequate solution, even though I have already stated my explanations.

[niuus]

Niuus, I wanted you to forgive me for my comment when you posted about silent updates or when it was named "just" as final. I understood that I was just bringing in updates and making them silent or not caring that they were seen. As I said, I don't have much knowledge about how hack updates are structured and released to the public, and I haven't completely adapted to the site either. .
I also need the translator to communicate here [because it is worth mentioning that I speak in Portuguese], I often need more than one translation platform so that the messages don't have "translations" contrary as sometimes happens. I was just unhappy in my comment, and I recognize that, but don't judge me for misunderstanding.

12/28/2020). I will have the humility to apologize if I was inconvenient in some placements, but after so many experiences from all of this (be it threats, lack of a team on the project, haters attacks and judgments, even dedicating myself to the the maximum), I started to be more rigid in relation to some users and situations.

I would like to clear this whole situation here, as this whole subject is quite stressful, and really be able to focus on the development and news of the hack. If someone has the solidarity to work with me on this project, and wants to help me with sounds, sprites, ASM and other things, express themselves by private message or whatever you want, That would make things extremely peaceful, and i don't want to work on it alone.[/i]

No problem. Let's move on from wrong translations and misunderstandings.

[Utamaru]

Hi Lucas Dext5r thanks for your hard work.

Your hack only need 2 minimal fixes to be the best umk3 hack for snes:

if you can eliminate that cursed black screen that appears every round when you activate the cheats
and if you can make the treasures of shao kahn screen appears after beat the arcade towers.

Thank you for make umk3 for snes a best game. ^^

[Lucas Dext5r]

Hi Lucas Dext5r thanks for your hard work.

Your hack only need 2 minimal fixes to be the best umk3 hack for snes:

if you can eliminate that cursed black screen that appears every round when you activate the cheats
and if you can make the treasures of shao kahn screen appears after beat the arcade towers.

Thank you for make umk3 for snes a best game. ^^

Hello! I really liked your suggestions, but I still need to study where are the instructions&addresses that run the black screen when the codes are activated.. Shao Kahn's treasures are also a good possibility..
July 03, 2021, 11:07:26 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

Guys, I got two very important achievements: I restored the floating objects from The Pit 3, and corrected the colors of the names that appear in the final victory (i only paid attention to it later) .

[niuus]

Guys, I got two very important achievements: I restored the floating objects from The Pit 3, and corrected the colors of the names that appear in the final victory (i only paid attention to it later) .

Great work, Mr.! Pit III looking better than ever.

[Lucas Dext5r]

Great work, Mr.! Pit III looking better than ever.

thank you, master!

[Utamaru]

Amazing work!!

Thank You!! 





Can this frames in the death of shao kahn be fixed?

[Lucas Dext5r]

Amazing work!!

Thank You!! 





Can this frames in the death of shao kahn be fixed?

I think so ..

[Utamaru]

Excelente trabajo maestro.

Probando el ultimo update del parche note que el escenario "The Bridge" sufre un glitch a la derecha si saltas y golpeas varias veces.



a ver si puede corregirse.

Muchas gracias por tu trabajo!!

[Lucas Dext5r]

Excelente trabajo maestro.

Probando el ultimo update del parche note que el escenario "The Bridge" sufre un glitch a la derecha si saltas y golpeas varias veces.



a ver si puede corregirse.

Muchas gracias por tu trabajo!!

¡Hola! Desafortunadamente, este es uno de los defectos que no pude arreglar, amigo. De hecho, este error de Bridge existe desde la primera versión publicada del proyecto, en la que las "coordenadas" del escenario están sueltas. Intentaré arreglar esto en el futuro;)

[Lucas Dext5r]

Some thoughts about the "graveyard" in the beta version of Mortal Kombat 3.



This is a screenshot that I don't think has been shared on forums or websites yet, but it was taken from issue 73 of the EGM. I keep the slightest hope that the beta available on the internet (July 13, 95) has preserved the tiles and colors of the stage in its ROM, but I can't say anything. This same rom also has the "run" bar yellow, but the "wins" symbol is below the energy bar, not on top as in the prototype version, and the level is not there either.

Regarding this conversation about BGs, I found these topics which I find very interesting: https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=24442.0
https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=22321.0

[niuus]

This deserves some cheers and recognition: the guy finally managed to add and restore the long lost Graveyard zone.


Played some brief rounds at the Graveyard, looks very good. Great work, kombatant @Lucas Dext5r 

[Nik Pi]

Nice. But I still need "sub-zero/rain/etc wins" samples
Good work