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Sonic 5 - Improvement Vol.2 (Nes)

Started by sics, May 14, 2018, 12:26:09 AM

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BootLeg_Lover_BR7

Text of sics: "Again, I find it hard to understand you, do you mean to dispense with the final cut scenes? I think the most interesting thing about this project is to see how far the NES can be taken, using only the resources that developers had in the past"

Yes Maybe if you dispense the Final Cutscenes
You can add more things to the project. ;)

How To Quote texts from another person? :-\

BootLeg_Lover_BR7


sics

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capnkatie

oh my god
Quote from: sics on February 02, 2023, 12:11:10 PMAre you ready for so much speed?

this is one of the most exciting gifs ive seen in my life

SuperStarFox


ChromiusMixin

Seems I'm the first to have a full longplay on Youtube with all emeralds!
Noted there's 14 special stages, so spoiler once I get to SLZ Act 3 for those who don't know!
THE SPOILER:
Spoiler
The Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic are in this hack. Hyper Sonic does not have his double jump or palette flashing but has very nuclear physics. Hyper Sonic has the invincibility music from Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
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diablo666

#546
 :) As I understand it, Scrаb Brain is not officially available yet, right?

Because passing act 3, I managed to get a bug at the very end of the corridor. After speeding up, instead of pushing against the wall, I managed to squeeze inside the wall, which then "sent me forward" and I lost my life

Do water patches work in this version (or rather, changing graphics to waterfalls) and rings flying out of Sonic HD?

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Now I have tried out version 1.5, it has really progressed a lot with the latest update. Your team is wonderful.

sics

Fray
Quote from: Fray on February 01, 2023, 02:35:01 PMThis project is great sics. Just for fun, have you tried using some color emphasis to see what comes out in the final result? I mean, if you can get warmer colors like the master system....
The truth is that I didn't want to play too much with the color, due to the known differences between the coloring of the emulators and the real hardware. Unfortunately, I do not have access to an everdrive, but what I have seen in videos, confuses me, because depending on who captures the gameplay, the game looks normal or with a very saturated coloration.

StickyChannel92
Quote from: StickyChannel92 on February 01, 2023, 06:57:15 PMOne idea I had in mind for a really long time was to change the physics a bit, to where Sonic starts off slow when holding right or left on the d-pad then gradually speeds up [...]
Although it's probably still not exactly what you're looking for, Sonic's physics have improved considerably in this version, I hope you'll give it a try :thumbsup:

capnkatie & SuperStarFox


ChromiusMixin
Congratulations, you played very well, I sincerely hope you enjoyed our hack, by the way, we have simplified the name of the hack, now it is simply called "Sonic the Hedgehog Vol.2".  I've added your gameplay to the community video list!! ;)

diablo666
No, Scrаb Brain zone is not officially available, we only make it accessible through the cheat menu, for the satisfaction of the curious, so being unfinished it's normal for this kind of thing to happen, so it's not really a bug.

About the additional patches, thanks to the hard work of Ti_ large sections of the game code have been decompiled, which, on the one hand, has allowed to incorporate a lot of new features and improvements, but inevitably has made most of the old .IPS obsolete.

Note: Some of the patches are going to return later, but the alternative cascades, I simply eliminated them, creating different ramifications of the hack would only satisfy a few, I don't think it was one of my best ideas, it just added to the confusion.
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sebastianangel

Quote from: sics on February 02, 2023, 12:11:10 PMAre you ready for so much speed?

Congratulations!Excellent work done! I love it, I will be playing it soon!

Red Soul

The gem continues to be polished, it's even more blindlingly shiny now!
Congratulations to all involved.

ChromiusMixin

Quote from: sics on February 03, 2023, 10:39:54 AMFrayThe truth is that I didn't want to play too much with the color, due to the known differences between the coloring of the emulators and the real hardware. Unfortunately, I do not have access to an everdrive, but what I have seen in videos, confuses me, because depending on who captures the gameplay, the game looks normal or with a very saturated coloration.

StickyChannel92Although it's probably still not exactly what you're looking for, Sonic's physics have improved considerably in this version, I hope you'll give it a try :thumbsup:

capnkatie & SuperStarFox


ChromiusMixin
Congratulations, you played very well, I sincerely hope you enjoyed our hack, by the way, we have simplified the name of the hack, now it is simply called "Sonic the Hedgehog Vol.2".  I've added your gameplay to the community video list!! ;)

diablo666
No, Scrаb Brain zone is not officially available, we only make it accessible through the cheat menu, for the satisfaction of the curious, so being unfinished it's normal for this kind of thing to happen, so it's not really a bug.

About the additional patches, thanks to the hard work of Ti_ large sections of the game code have been decompiled, which, on the one hand, has allowed to incorporate a lot of new features and improvements, but inevitably has made most of the old .IPS obsolete.

Note: Some of the patches are going to return later, but the alternative cascades, I simply eliminated them, creating different ramifications of the hack would only satisfy a few, I don't think it was one of my best ideas, it just added to the confusion.

It really was a treat to play! For all that's playable right now, the only real quips I have is Sonic's physics feeling wrong specifically during Final Zone and speed shoes seeming to expire too quickly. (Sonic can't skid while in the arena of Final Zone and speed shoes duration can be noticed if you pick up both speed shoes and invincibility at the same time for comparison.)

Otherwise, it's really starting to get there! The sound test also surprised me with tunes I didn't expect to hear, and there's actually an early draft of Scrap Brain Zone in the hack which I almost jumped when I saw there were actual levels for it now!

In regards to speed shoes: Would it be possible to increase the animation speed for Sonic's full speed running animation, and use his full speed animation when running through loops rather than his walking animation while speed shoes are active? Speed shoes also seem to work properly in loops so it's kinda weird to see him using his walking animation through loops while running so fast through them.

StickyChannel92

I just played the hack and it was great! However I do have some things to note about the hack:
- Sonic's physics still do feel slippery, like what ChromiusMixin mentioned.
- Sonic can obtain invincibility from an invincibility monitor while Sonic is in super form, which makes me wonder if Sonic has become double-shielded. :laugh:
- Scrap Brain looks good as a start! When it gets finished, I'd love to try it.

If you are in need of Super Sonic sprites, I made some for you if you need them for your hack. (Transform sprites made by PacManfan64.  I also made fan sprites for labyrinth zone and scrap brain act 3. :)


diablo666

I have a different question. Why can't Super Sonic get lives like in the original games? Out of honesty to the circumstances? "They say: Since he is Super Sonic, then there are restrictions"

kuja killer

Hi there, quick question. I saw "cousincatnip" play this on twitch stream yesterday, and one thing that really was annoying and made me wondering "why" is...why there is never any checkpoints in any levels ? Sorry this is my first time looking at this thread, so i dont know if this has been answered already.

I never saw 1 single checkpoint "goal post" or monitor with a down arrow like the game gear games, 1 single time in any level whatsoever. Do they really not exist ?? He did not finish the game because of this reason, only got to the Labriynth zone before he stopped playing.

diablo666

Quote from: kuja killer on February 04, 2023, 06:26:02 PMHi there, quick question. I saw "cousincatnip" play this on twitch stream yesterday, and one thing that really was annoying and made me wondering "why" is...why there is never any checkpoints in any levels ? Sorry this is my first time looking at this thread, so i dont know if this has been answered already.

I never saw 1 single checkpoint "goal post" or monitor with a down arrow like the game gear games, 1 single time in any level whatsoever. Do they really not exist ?? He did not finish the game because of this reason, only got to the Labriynth zone before he stopped playing.

 
I'm sorry to quote you in full. However, I may be able to answer the question.

This is due to the original game. There were initially no "Checkpoints" and "pointer arrows", because the pirates did not provide for this, or they already lacked a place in the game. Even in the resources of the game - there are no graphics for these things, and it is difficult to create an object from scratch.

diablo666

#555
Labyrinth zone - Now it is easier to pass, because there are more rings, more monitors, bubbles working correctly, which do not confuse the player.

Previously, yes... the zone was a complete nightmare.

(Where has the function of gluing the message "not a double post" disappeared?)

MarioandSonic999

So with the updated version of this now being released, are the Super Sonic and cutscene animations not supported in it?

ChromiusMixin

Quote from: MarioandSonic999 on February 05, 2023, 12:21:24 AMSo with the updated version of this now being released, are the Super Sonic and cutscene animations not supported in it?
For cutscenes, no. Super Sonic, no frames of animation at all but if you go into the sound test, You can hear the S2 Super Sonic and S3K super/hyper transform sounds, so I'm pretty sure it's implied Super Sonic will have proper sprites and transform animation implemented in a future update.

MarioandSonic999

#558
Okay, that's really awesome. Also, is there a possibility of proper sprites and transformation animation for Hyper Sonic in it? And will there be a bad ending for when you do not get the Super Emeralds?

sics

#559
ChromiusMixin
Actually, the shield monitors are the ones that last longer than they should, the Power Sneakers, will respect the duration of MD. Also, although your times were very good, as you gain experience you will realize how brief each act is.


I don't understand what you mean about the Final Boss.

I may be wrong, but I understand this is a legacy of the Hummer engine, originally the boost gained on one type of surface was not retained when switching to the next, although with the new physics it seems to have improved a bit.

StickyChannel92
You may be right, I've been thinking for a long time that the rest of the monitors except lives should become ring monitors when SS is active.

It is one of the best works I have seen in a long time, but even so it has some conceptual errors, so honestly it would be more difficult for me to correct the work that you have shared than to start from scratch, in any case, rest assured that I will save your proposal for reference, thank you very much!

By the way, do you have DevianArt, or any page where you show your work, I would really like to know more about your art :thumbsup:

diablo666
Simply because it breaks the gameplay, if you farm 99 lives in a single level, it makes no sense to collect rings, gather continues, look for life monitors... well I think these examples are enough, it's not simply out of honesty.

MarioandSonic999
The short answer is no, there are no checkpoints, the long answer is that adding new mechanics to an already established game has a layer of considerable difficulty, how strange I thought the explanation was going to be longer.

Note: I wrote this before any more messages came in, I'm a bit frazzled at the moment, sorry....


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