Snes emulators (Canoe, Snes9x) -- game problems and fixes

Started by sluffy, February 10, 2018, 11:25:45 PM

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18Phoenix

SNES Online is mostly like canoe, so can someone help here please,
some games make still problems, please look here:
https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=30315.0

18Phoenix

#3063
Hello :)
You all made so many great SNES canoe patches, perhaps someone has an idea what to do
to get the following games running with SNES Online which is very equal to canoe but not 100% the same.
SNES Online is integrated in the newer SFrom tool from DarkAkuma, but here it doesn't help.

Strangely there're some games making problems that didn't with canoe:

       
  • American Tail - Fievel goes West (crashes before gameplay starts)
      With the existing canoe patch it starts but crashes before level 1 gameplay start.
      But the demo levels are working.
  • Blues Brothers
      doesn't start at all
  • Goof Troop
      transparency issue in dark cave rooms (level 3) - but fully playable
      normal:        bad: 

       
  • Sonic Blast Man (bad graphic errors, but ingame looks ok, so playable)
      This rom normally works fine on other emus, so it's strange getting graphic errors here:
     

       
  • Sonic Blast Man II  (bad graphic errors everywhere, not playable)
      Same like with part 1:
     

       
  • StoneProtectors
      Fore- and background are flickering extremely in level 1, but playable
     

       
  • Street Fighter Alpha 2
      Some graphic errors, but playable:
     
   jap + hack

       
  • Appleseed - Prometheus no Shintaku (J)
      bad sprite graphic errors, not playable
     

       
  • Arcus Spirits (Beta) [Arcus Odyssey (USA) (Proto)]
      english beta version doesn't start even with the existing canoe patch
  • Dragon Quest III (J)
      Therefore exists an canoe patch for the english translation which works fine,
      but sadly not for the German translation.
  • Hiryuu no Ken S - Hyper Version (J) (not starting)
  • Chrono Trigger - Flames of Eternity
      It starts but you only hear the sound but nothing visible, only black screen.
  • Super Naxat Open - Spike McFangs Golf Battle (J)
      english translation not starting
  • The Legend of Zelda - Parallel Remodel
      tried all different versions, all don't even start
Any hints for SFrom tool settings or other edit possibilities ?
Every help would be great  :)

SupaSAIAN

Hi all, any one can make a patch for Canoe to disable the overscan in the new Super Chinese World 2 translation please??

pika132

Is this the thread for posting problems with getting hacks to work? Wish I'd known before making two other posts about EarthBound :banghead:

reyvgm

#3066
If anyone still checks the thread, Illusion of Time is not fixed. The game lacks music. I don't know how no one reported that back then, specially since sluffy made  a patch to fix the transparency issue in the menu.

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Quote from: 18Phoenix on September 06, 2020, 10:50:04 AM
Hello :)
You all made so many great SNES canoe patches, perhaps someone has an idea what to do
to get the following games running with SNES Online which is very equal to canoe but not 100% the same.
SNES Online is integrated in the newer SFrom tool from DarkAkuma, but here it doesn't help.

Strangely there're some games making problems that didn't with canoe:

       
  • American Tail - Fievel goes West (crashes before gameplay starts)
      With the existing canoe patch it starts but crashes before level 1 gameplay start.
      But the demo levels are working.
  • Asterix (E) (M4)
      sound is broken, with and without NTSC patch
  • Goof Troop
      transparency issue in dark cave rooms (level 3) - but fully playable
      normal:        bad: 

       
  • Sonic Blast Man (bad graphic errors, but ingame looks ok, so playable)
      This rom normally works fine on other emus, so it's strange getting graphic errors here:
     

       
  • Sonic Blast Man II  (bad graphic errors everywhere, not playable)
      Same like with part 1:
     

       
  • StoneProtectors
      Fore- and background are flickering extremely in level 1, but playable
     

       
  • Street Fighter Alpha 2
      Some graphic errors, but playable:
     
   jap + hack

       
  • Appleseed - Prometheus no Shintaku (J)
      bad sprite graphic errors, not playable
     

       
  • Arcus Spirits (Beta) [Arcus Odyssey (USA) (Proto)]
      english beta version doesn't start even with the existing canoe patch
  • Dragon Quest III (J)
      Therefore exists an canoe patch for the english translation which works fine,
      but sadly not for the German translation.
  • Hiryuu no Ken S - Hyper Version (J) (not starting)
  • Chrono Trigger - Flames of Eternity
      It starts but you only hear the sound but nothing visible, only black screen.
  • Super Naxat Open - Spike McFangs Golf Battle (J)
      english translation not starting
  • The Legend of Zelda - Parallel Remodel
      tried all different versions, all don't even start
Any hints for SFrom tool settings or other edit possibilities ?
Every help would be great  :)

All those USA games are working just fine. You are probably screwing them up by using SFROM Tool without knowing what you're doing.

18Phoenix

#3067
Quote from: reyvgm on September 27, 2020, 04:15:03 PM
If anyone still checks the thread, Illusion of Time is not fixed. The game lacks music. I don't know how no one reported that back then, specially since sluffy made  a patch to fix the transparency issue in the menu.
...
All those USA games are working just fine. You are probably screwing them up by using SFROM Tool without knowing what you're doing.

First thanks for answering  :thumbsup:
I know sfrom tool very good.
Illusion of Time/Gaia works perfect with transparency issue in the menu solved.
The named USA Games don't how you can see in the gifs above.
Sure that we're both talking about SNES Online, the official Switch emu ????
I'm not talking about mini(S)NES/canoe or any PC emu what I had already emphasized !!!

reyvgm

Quote from: 18Phoenix on September 28, 2020, 03:45:11 AM
First thanks for answering  :thumbsup:
I know sfrom tool very good.
Illusion of Time/Gaia works perfect with transparency issue in the menu solved.
The named USA Games don't how you can see in the gifs above.
Sure that we're both talking about SNES Online, the official Switch emu ????
I'm not talking about mini(S)NES/canoe or any PC emu what I had already emphasized !!!

Then why are you asking in this thread? This is for the Canoe on the SNES Mini, not for any other emulator.

BigLongJohnson

Quote from: reyvgm on October 02, 2020, 03:56:26 PM
Then why are you asking in this thread? This is for the Canoe on the SNES Mini, not for any other emulator.

The topic title is literally "Snes emulators (Canoe, Snes9x)".

::)

Quote from: sluffy on February 10, 2018, 11:25:45 PMThis is not solely Canoe thread. But largely targeted for them.

18Phoenix

Quote from: BigLongJohnson on October 02, 2020, 11:20:07 PM
The topic title is literally "Snes emulators (Canoe, Snes9x)".

Right, thanks, it's for all SNES emus.
SNES Online is 99,5 % equal to Canoe, so no problem anyway.

reyvgm

Quote from: BigLongJohnson on October 02, 2020, 11:20:07 PM
The topic title is literally "Snes emulators (Canoe, Snes9x)".

::)

That might have been the original intent, but we, the ones that have been here for years and following this thread since the start, we know this is a Canoe thread.

18Phoenix

Quote from: reyvgm on October 04, 2020, 08:02:22 AM
That might have been the original intent, but we, the ones that have been here for years and following this thread since the start, we know this is a Canoe thread.
Ok, so it fits because it's 99,5% the same.
Those with the knowledge for fixes can help here the same way.
Near to all canoe fixes are needed for SNES Online aswell.
But these few games shown above don't.
Especially SonicBlastMan I+II which work normal with canoe.
DarkAkuma, the maker of sfrom tool, already helped aswell even not having a Switch.
People with the abilities like to use it everywhere what is very nice.

reyvgm

No one cares about fixing games for canoe. They just care about retroarch.

With sluffy gone, the whole scene died.

Goemon

What happened to sluffy was just insanity. The people responsible should be hanged on their ballsack for all eternity!
That said I think by now there is no real need for more Canoe game hacks.
Besides being the original Emulator, Canoe's advantage was the low input lag.
The latest Hackchi and Retroarch stuff should be well optimized by now and offer a similar low input lag.

reyvgm

Quote from: Goemon on October 06, 2020, 02:20:18 AM
What happened to sluffy was just insanity. The people responsible should be hanged on their ballsack for all eternity!
That said I think by now there is no real need for more Canoe game hacks.
Besides being the original Emulator, Canoe's advantage was the low input lag.
The latest Hackchi and Retroarch stuff should be well optimized by now and offer a similar low input lag.

That wasn't the point of canoe patches. A lot of people just don't want to use an external emulator. Canoe also loads instantly, RA doesn't. Also the rewind feature doesn't work if you use Retroarch.

Goemon

either way it is over isnt it?
So there is no other way than use RA now. At least until a talent like sluffy shows up and throws out 2 patches a day.
Also not all games were fixable. I spoke with sluffy back then via PM and there were several titles he didnt wanted to touch.
What he basicaly said was that the better way would be to hack the emulator itself but that would require a ARM ASM specialist.

18Phoenix

I don't like ReatroArch at all, I prefer standalone emus for each console.

reyvgm

Quote from: Goemon on October 07, 2020, 02:37:02 AM
either way it is over isnt it?
So there is no other way than use RA now. At least until a talent like sluffy shows up and throws out 2 patches a day.
Also not all games were fixable. I spoke with sluffy back then via PM and there were several titles he didnt wanted to touch.
What he basicaly said was that the better way would be to hack the emulator itself but that would require a ARM ASM specialist.

It has been over for years now. People that have the knowledge just don't care to make patches.

18Phoenix

#3079
Quote from: reyvgm on October 07, 2020, 06:43:07 PM
It has been over for years now. People that have the knowledge just don't care to make patches.

So you say this is the place of no-care hackers, quite the opposite of other sides ?
That would be huge minus for Romhacking, elsewhere great progress has been made, it's even integrated in sfrom tool.
But it's your statement.