Snes emulators (Canoe, Snes9x) -- game problems and fixes

Started by sluffy, February 10, 2018, 11:25:45 PM

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KingMike

Surely it's using a high-resolution mode for the text layer.
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SupaSAIAN



SupaSAIAN

Quote from: Bosco82 on November 05, 2018, 07:33:54 PM
Kouryuu No Mimi Canoe Patch
https://www.sendspace.com/file/hbczg8

Excuse me but what's the problem with Kouryuu No Mimi??
I'm playing this Spanish translation (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3282/) and seems fine, also the game doesn't have an US release...
Any way thanks for the patch  :thumbsup:

Bosco82

#2924
Since there was issues emulating the game with the VWF in some emulators, I noticed they didn't change the internal rom size, sometimes Canoe doesn't run a game if that's set wrong. The patch is for the newly released v2.0 translation by RPGOne. I just use US as a marker for my translated roms.

gamerguy2002

So I'm hoping this is the thread you can ask for help on certain titles that you're trying to work on the SNES Classic, 'cause I got a few. I hope I can some help with these. Sorry if these issues have been brought up before, I wish this board's software had a better search feature to search threads first.

Anyways, here are my issues:

~Dragonball Z Hyper Dimension: I keep getting a black screen followed by a C7 error after I reset. I keep trying to get the 2010 English patch version working but even with the Canoe Patch it still just does not want to work.

~DOOM: I hear this may be a lost cause just because of the fact that it's a shoddy port but I'm gonna add it for the hell of it. This lagged really bad with 1 rom and then I replaced it and now its just a black screen (strangely enough no C7 error with a reset like with DBZ HD just returns to the menu).

~Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Fighting Edition: This is an oddball. game was running fine until you start the match, then the sprites would bug out but it would still play just with glitched sprites. tried applying the Canoe Patch and it made things worse! now I can't even get past the VS. screen without it crashing.

~Super Bomberman 4: Got the japanese version to work fine but the english patch version just is a buggy sprite mess. it's bomber man so it's no real loss if I can't get the english patch working but I'm just gonna try anyways.

Theirs also Earthworm Jim 2 and Primal Rage. no problems as of yet with these games but they are seriously lacking sound effects and music, I heard it's a common problem but I can't find anything recent about fixing the sound issues on these games or if they been patched to be fixed yet.


Again thank you for the help on these. I hope I don't sound too much like a new guy with a broken record lol.

arkiokin

Quote from: gamerguy2002 on November 08, 2018, 07:47:47 PM
So I'm hoping this is the thread you can ask for help on certain titles that you're trying to work on the SNES Classic, 'cause I got a few. I hope I can some help with these. Sorry if these issues have been brought up before, I wish this board's software had a better search feature to search threads first.

Anyways, here are my issues:

~Dragonball Z Hyper Dimension: I keep getting a black screen followed by a C7 error after I reset. I keep trying to get the 2010 English patch version working but even with the Canoe Patch it still just does not want to work.

~DOOM: I hear this may be a lost cause just because of the fact that it's a shoddy port but I'm gonna add it for the hell of it. This lagged really bad with 1 rom and then I replaced it and now its just a black screen (strangely enough no C7 error with a reset like with DBZ HD just returns to the menu).

~Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Fighting Edition: This is an oddball. game was running fine until you start the match, then the sprites would bug out but it would still play just with glitched sprites. tried applying the Canoe Patch and it made things worse! now I can't even get past the VS. screen without it crashing.

~Super Bomberman 4: Got the japanese version to work fine but the english patch version just is a buggy sprite mess. it's bomber man so it's no real loss if I can't get the english patch working but I'm just gonna try anyways.

Theirs also Earthworm Jim 2 and Primal Rage. no problems as of yet with these games but they are seriously lacking sound effects and music, I heard it's a common problem but I can't find anything recent about fixing the sound issues on these games or if they been patched to be fixed yet.


Again thank you for the help on these. I hope I don't sound too much like a new guy with a broken record lol.

Hello,

I tested more precisely the game you mentioned, (cause I had already played some without any issues on my SNESC) :

- DBZ hyper dimension works just fine for me (with or without the english translation) : absolutely no issues encountered with sluffy's patch

- Power rangers, the fighting edition : exactly the same: it works like a charm for me (with patched rom used)

- Doom : I tested on canoe and on Higan (PC) and I honestly don't see noticeable (accurancy) differences between these 2 versions : same very minor slowdown (with slight music distorsion) at some rare spots. I didn't noticed special lag on canoe, nothing uncomfortable. But maybe I'm wrong here, I am not used to this game.

For EarthwormJim2, No, we tested a lot of different presetID to solve these major sound issues but no improvement at all. The problem is much more complex and sluffy's quit the scene before finding any solution. (More than that the game freezes at the begining of level 2)

However, for Primal Rage, it's a good catch here, because nobody had never reported any issues on this game (considering the compatibility sheet). And Yes, you're right, a bunch of various sounds are missing (the more noticeable are the "RAGE" voice at the beginning of a battle or the victory yell of the victory character at the end of a battle). Preset ID EF10 or EC10 have no effect to correct that.

For the games that don't work with you, be sure to use correct roms from the no-intro set and don't use SFROM Tool in a first time : patch them manually with lunar ips (with the patch into the compatibility sheet) and only then, put them in hakchi. then you can also add a translation patch (for example in DBZ hyper dimension, that don't require header rom)

P.S : I didn't tested Bomberman4 translated; maybe later.

SupaSAIAN

Hi can any one fix this Spanish translation?? (https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3980/)
It boots on Canoe but gives black screen after the translators splash screen...

Bosco82

SupaSAIAN, I've checked out both those translations, there is some problem I'm guessing caused by the rom expansion.

SupaSAIAN

#2929
Quote from: Bosco82 on November 12, 2018, 09:12:59 PM
SupaSAIAN, I've checked out both those translations, there is some problem I'm guessing caused by the rom expansion.

Thanks Bosco82 but the Do-Re-Mi Fantasy issue has been fixed by Jonny and he will release a new version of the patch, I'm helping him to test and correct the grammar issues of the Spanish translation.

Jonny

For Iron Commando, the issue was the rom had been badly expanded to 3.25MB.  The solution was simply to expand it to a stable rom size(1.5MB).  An update for this translation to fix this has now been released by Semco.

For Doremi Fantasy Spanish, the rom size was fine.  It did not work on the SNESmini as a register was not being read as expected. (It did work fine on a real SNES and other emulators). This has been fixed in the translation and an update will be released soon. 

SupaSAIAN

Quote from: Jonny on November 16, 2018, 06:55:11 AM
For Iron Commando, the issue was the rom had been badly expanded to 3.25MB.  The solution was simply to expand it to a stable rom size(1.5MB).  An update for this translation to fix this has now been released by Semco.

For Doremi Fantasy Spanish, the rom size was fine.  It did not work on the SNESmini as a register was not being read as expected. (It did work fine on a real SNES and other emulators). This has been fixed in the translation and an update will be released soon.

Thanks a lot again Jonny, It was nice to help you testing  :thumbsup:

gamerguy2002

Quote from: arkiokin on November 09, 2018, 09:33:04 AM
Hello,

I tested more precisely the game you mentioned, (cause I had already played some without any issues on my SNESC) :

- DBZ hyper dimension works just fine for me (with or without the english translation) : absolutely no issues encountered with sluffy's patch

- Power rangers, the fighting edition : exactly the same: it works like a charm for me (with patched rom used)

- Doom : I tested on canoe and on Higan (PC) and I honestly don't see noticeable (accurancy) differences between these 2 versions : same very minor slowdown (with slight music distorsion) at some rare spots. I didn't noticed special lag on canoe, nothing uncomfortable. But maybe I'm wrong here, I am not used to this game.

For EarthwormJim2, No, we tested a lot of different presetID to solve these major sound issues but no improvement at all. The problem is much more complex and sluffy's quit the scene before finding any solution. (More than that the game freezes at the begining of level 2)

However, for Primal Rage, it's a good catch here, because nobody had never reported any issues on this game (considering the compatibility sheet). And Yes, you're right, a bunch of various sounds are missing (the more noticeable are the "RAGE" voice at the beginning of a battle or the victory yell of the victory character at the end of a battle). Preset ID EF10 or EC10 have no effect to correct that.

For the games that don't work with you, be sure to use correct roms from the no-intro set and don't use SFROM Tool in a first time : patch them manually with lunar ips (with the patch into the compatibility sheet) and only then, put them in hakchi. then you can also add a translation patch (for example in DBZ hyper dimension, that don't require header rom)

P.S: I didn't tested Bomberman4 translated; maybe later.

Hi, sory it took soo long to get back to you but I wanted to let you know that I followed your advice in the bold and I got everything to work flawlessly. thank you for teaching me this new trick and learning about what No-Header Roms are, glad they exist!

But I'm having trouble with Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon R, I did exactly what I did with the other roms but it just still gives me a black screen. was this game ever properly tested with its english patch?

Bosco82

I run Sailor Moon R just fine on mine, the page here http://www.romhacking.net/translations/435/ mentions the translation patch requires a header. Use tush from http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/608/ to add the header, patch the translation, then remove the header before adding it to the SNES classic

teahouser

Does anyone have a copy of the Violinist of Hameln canoe patch? Also, does anyone have a collection of all of Sluffy patches that can be downloaded in one go? The patch pack by lich on the main post is not very up to date, and with pretty much 100% of the file links now expited and useless, it would be nice to have an updated patch pack download available.

If anyone has all the patches squirreled away in a folder I would be grateful for a download link  :woot!:


teahouser

Quote from: Bosco82 on November 27, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
Its on the compatibility list under Hamelin no Violin Hiki
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12HKfz4ZQBy6Ip5awvh8t2aV5cVswYlnsdKxn9xoIW2Y/edit#gid=2014317767

I checked and it doesn't have a link to any patch, just says the game has issues except sluffy fixed them with his patch. The canoe patch link has expired so just looking for someone who has a copy of the patch since its not in any patch packs.


teahouser

Thanks Bosco! The entire E row isnt showing up for me on the document, I must have something out of date, thanks for the working link, much appreciated!

HiburiNeko

#2939
Hi there, I am new here.
I posted this on r/miniSNESmods, and this board got mentioned.
I am currently playing "Doraemon nobita to yousei no kuni"(Doraemon and the land of the fairies?!)(SHVC-DR) and I have found some emulation errors when running it with Canoe.

There are sometimes lines of text missing. It is starting early on (didn´t see it at first, because I skipped the opening :) ), but I first noticed it when there was a missing option to answer during one of the dialogues. It seems as if the four lines of text don´t fit the box, or something.
Here are pictures from the beginning of the game (one of Canoe and one of Retroarch/SNES9x):
https://imgur.com/a/HkbZ2Nu

Is there any way to fix something like this in Canoe?

I played Doraemon 4 roo and haven´t seen any error so far, but it is somewhat different from Doraemon 1-3), I also ordered Doraemon 2 and 3, maybe I am able to test them soon.

Edit: So I tried Doraemon (1) with SNES9X and BSNES on the Mini, SNES9X (16) has pretty hefty slowdowns and sound crackling, SNES9x (10) some sound issues and sound crackling, BSNES runs at, I don´t know, half the framerate?! Maybe I will try SNES9x(05) later, but it seems as if it isn´t possible to get it running properly.