11 March 2016 - Forum Rules
Started by Rai, November 12, 2016, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: flame on November 12, 2016, 10:24:28 PMWhat is the "spacing" opcode and why is it important? Is it different than a space?
Quoteおみつ 「[RedText]ものしりじいさん[BlueText]が [RedText]ゴエモン・いんぱくと[BlueText]の[LineEnd][Spacing]ざんがいを りようして こしらえた[LineEnd][Spacing][RedText]はぐれまち[BlueText] と [RedText]にんじゃやしき[BlueText] を いきき[LineEnd][Spacing]できる きかいの ことよ！！[LineEnd][0xB4] 。」[LineEnd]
QuoteＯｍｉｔｓｕ （Ｔｈｅ Ｗｉｓｅ Ｏｌｄ Ｍａｎ ｈａｓ ｂｅｅｎ ｒｅｐａｉｒｉｎｇ Ｇｏｅｍｏｎ Ｉｍｐａｃｔ
QuoteＯｍｉｔｓｕ（Ｔｈｅ Ｗｉｓｅ Ｏｌｄ Ｍａｎ ｈａｓ ｂｅｅｎ ｒｅｐａｉｒｉｎｇ Ｇｏｅｍｏｎ Ｉｍｐａｃｔ
Quote from: Seihen on November 13, 2016, 03:32:15 AMMy guess is that it's a full-width Japanese space (i.e., it takes up as much space as one double-byte character). They're using it probably to line up the text so that it appears neatly in solid rows, since the opening and closing quotations take up space.Without spacing:「ものしりじいさんが ゴエモン・いんぱくとのざんがいを りようして こしらえたはぐれまち と にんじゃやしき を いききできる きかいの ことよ！！ 。」With spacing:「ものしりじいさんが ゴエモン・いんぱくとの ざんがいを りようして こしらえた はぐれまち と にんじゃやしき を いきき できる きかいの ことよ！！ 。」
Quote from: GHANMI on November 13, 2016, 06:34:53 AMI went and checked the text in-game.Spoiler When it reaches [0xB4]:And then the message box closes.[close][Spacing] is the indentation aligning the next lines with the brackets after the speaker's name (Omitsu here). IMHO it's a waste of screen estate, especially with longer names, and deserves to go away.So, something like this:could look better with the speaker's name in its own dedicated line, like this:(you could free up a line by removing the 8x8 dakuten from both lines of text)As a side note however, Goemon and the Space Pirates for the PS1 does use full width Shift-JIS spaces to manually align text rather than this particular adaptative indenting implementation.As for [0xB4], it's like an RTS figuratively speaking. This particular bit of text appears when you choose one of two options in a question, and then when [0xB4] is reached, it goes back to the main body of text for one last line (not in the dump here) for both options. However I don't get why there's 。」[LineEnd] after considering it's never read (the period doesn't appear at all).Your text dump is quite readable, compared to other games where the LineBreak doesn't imply waiting for the user to press a button.
Quote from: Nightcrawler on November 13, 2016, 09:15:58 AMAgreed that you won't need the [Spacing] tag for insertion, so you don't need to show it for the dump. Just show the spaces.You can also get rid of you [LineEnd] control codes if you do auto formatting (either in-game or externally). Such controls would be placed automatically for insertion and only need to be line breaks in the dump. Or, as mentioned, you can omit the line breaks entirely if the script if it's in a spreadsheet format or something.You can also probably shorten your color controls to just and so they won't be so overbearing to the text if they are used alot.
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