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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2018, 09:55:54 am »
Sure, I just think having these explanations you just gave on the page would be helpful for people. I thought it was all about hacks/mods when I first clicked on it.
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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2018, 02:02:31 pm »
I would like to chime in and say I like the categories you have made. I had not been aware of bingo or restriction-style randomization, but I am curious about them as a result of your presentation of them. I might also want to explore making some. Part of the overarching purpose is to give people reason to play old games again, even if the means or goals are different. Far better to provide the category and allow people to ignore it if they aren't interested, than to abolish the category altogether.

I also hadn't heard the term "Roguelike" and got to do some fun research about that.

Please keep up the good work!  :beer:

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #102 on: April 03, 2018, 12:51:33 am »
Thank you very much PresidentLeever and PolishedTurd, I will take your feedback into consideration for a future update!

### Added randomizers

- Excitebike
- Final Fantasy VI / Brave New World (extensive changes with configurable severity, optional roguelike)
- The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time (restriction section)

### Other changes

- Changed description for the "Roguelikeifyer" and "Beyond Babil" Final Fantasy IV randomizers to "linear roguelike" and "non-linear roguelike" respectively.
- Grouped all restriction randomizers from voidfox.com to a single entry since they share the same URL.

EDIT: Added the Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones self-randomizer that has just been featured on the front page, plus instructions to locate one the Final Fantasy VI competitive randomizer.

EDIT 2: Added AM2R (fangame) randomizer.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2018, 12:42:24 am by SmashManiac »

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2018, 12:52:02 am »
### Added randomizers

- The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time (items - new one and much more advanced than the old one)

### Other changes

- Moved finap13's old The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time item randomizer in the Deprecated section.
- Moved general information and the tetrimino image to a dedicated blog post.
- Marked special randomizers as bonus lists.

EDIT:

### Added randomizers

- EarthBound (gift boxes, key items, optional roguelike)

### Other changes

- Updated the style of the list to make it more compact.
- Minor tweak to the description of Final Fantasy IV Beyond Chaos Gaiden randomizer for standardization of hack names.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2018, 11:25:08 pm by SmashManiac »

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #104 on: May 14, 2018, 12:47:41 am »
Alright, as I mentioned a few posts ago, I was considering removing all content under the "Corruptors", "Restrictions" and "Bingo" categories. Since then I have come to the following conclusions:

- Restriction generators are nice tools for convenience and inspiration, but are in general unnecessary as they can be easily replicated by generating a few random numbers at specific key points in the relevant game and associating each number with a choice the player has to comply with. The big exception is for speedrun races where the random conditions should be hidden until the race start, but I believe that such tools are better shared within the relevant speedrunning communities instead.
- Bingos are the most complex restriction generators due to their 5x5 grid format and balancing issues, so the easy replication argument does not apply for them. However, they are exclusively designed for speedrunning purposes, and I've had multiple speedrunners tell me that bingos don't actually feel random, so again I believe that such tools are better shared within the relevant speedrunning communities instead.
- Corruptions usually fall into my self-imposed exclusion of "only adding random elements over the normal game". The reason I made this exclusion in the first place is because they are generally trivial to make and usually has extremely limited replay value. Corruptors that don't have those issues unfortunately have the side-effect of causing softlocks and crashes, both of which are undesireable states within randomizer communities.

For these reasons, I no longer feel that awareness of these tools justifies their inclusion on a randomizer list. Therefore, I have decided to remove these categories and their content altogether. As a side-effect, this will also allow me to dedicate more time to the main list. I will make a backup in case others want to pick them up and continue where I left off, and will consider linking to such successor lists if they become a reality.

I will make the change during my next update.

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #105 on: May 22, 2018, 01:05:03 am »
OK guys, are you ready to play a randomizer where you have to switch between Super Metroid and The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past to find items shuffled in both games? Because somebody just did that. Oh, and both games are merged into a single ROM and you switch between them by going through doors. Yes, this is an amazing technical achievement and the first of its kind, and you can play it right now!

### Added randomizers

- Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
- Fire Emblem Fates
- Soul Blazer
- Super Metroid + The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (crossover)

### Other changes

- Removed all corruptors, restrictions and bingos. (See the previous post for the detailed explanation.)
- Removed automatic weapon swap randomizers from the Souls category.
- Added the Capcom, Konami, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, Square Enix categories.
- Merged the Rare category with the new Nintendo category, the Shining category with the new Sega category, and the Mana category with the new Square Enix category.
- Cleaned up remaining category names.
- Updated link for the Mega Man 3/4/5 roguelikes to rock5easily's new website and added download instructions for people that can't read Japanese.
- Moved back general information to the bottom of the list and updated it.
- Added the "I want more!" section.

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #106 on: May 22, 2018, 03:43:52 am »
Wow. Now that really is impressive!
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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2018, 06:09:44 pm »
### Added randomizers

- Phantasy Star II
- Team Fortress II (closed source service)
- Wolfenstein 3D (from an old version of the Doom level generator already on the list)

### Other changes

- Added the "Doom", "Heretic", "Team Fortress" and special "Multi-series" categories.
- Removed company-specific categories as it made specific games harder to find.
- Replaced "See also" to "See Multi-series category" and identified individual games accordingly
- Updated links and descriptions for EarthBound, Legacy of the Wizard and Phantasy Star IV randomizers.
- Updated a bunch of links to HTTPS.
- Removed America's Army automatic weapon swap randomizer.
- Updated link of the Phantasy Star IV randomizer to the latest version.
- Updated list of supported games for the Doom level generator.
- Fixed The Ultimate Doom game name.
- Further clarified exclusion list.

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2018, 01:30:05 am »
*checks list* oh, sweet! just what i've been looking for. that link to the past/super metroid randomizer i saw some speed runners playing. ^_^

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #109 on: June 14, 2018, 08:55:37 pm »
This is very cool idea to do for any game, i should upload my own randomizer based on rom editors i have worked on...

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2018, 11:06:29 pm »
Looking forward to whatever you'll come up with salvadorc17! :)

### Added randomizers

- Contra / Super C (crossover)
- Rad Racer

EDIT: Also added a Metroid / The Legend of Zelda crossover randomizer, not to be confused with the Super Metroid / A Link to the Past crossover randomizer.

EDIT 2: Just added a really cool Metroid Prime randomizer, and deprecated the old clunky one.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 01:52:49 am by SmashManiac »

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #111 on: June 21, 2018, 11:10:56 am »
Metroid Prime link shows a blank page.

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2018, 02:23:46 pm »
@Jeville: I checked in both Chrome and Firefox and everything is fine. Make sure you don't have JavaScript disabled in your browser or a conflicting ad blocker, as the entire site is loaded in JavaScript.

### Added randomizers

- The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (entrances)

### Other changes

- Updated link and instructions for the Castlevania: Symphony of the Night randomizer.
- Updated Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu's game name to standardize Japanese-only titles and avoid unofficial translations.
- Added Probotector alternate name in Contra's category name for European readers.

EDIT: Updated the Mega Man Battle Network 3 randomizer with a new version that also supports Blue Version, and put the original randomizer as deprecated.

EDIT 2:

### Added randomizers

- Super Metroid (items, with extensive customization options)

### Other changes

- Deprecated old Super Metroid items randomizers.
- Clarified that the Contra / Super C crossover randomizer is for the NES port of Contra, not the original arcade version.
- Standardized romanized names in international Kunrei-shiki except for katakana.
- Added note about which game names are used in the list.
- Updated link to the The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past items/entrances randomizer.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2018, 08:44:47 pm by SmashManiac »

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #113 on: July 07, 2018, 02:26:57 pm »
Just added a really ambitious The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker open world items randomizer, along with other minor changes. :)

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #114 on: July 14, 2018, 08:15:50 am »
question: why does that PSIV randomizer have to be installed whenever you use it? that's dumb.

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #115 on: July 14, 2018, 04:29:10 pm »
question: why does that PSIV randomizer have to be installed whenever you use it? that's dumb.
You're asking at the wrong place. You should contact the randomizer's author for support, either directly or by creating an issue in the randomizer's GitHub repository.

EDIT: I'd like some feedback as to how you'd like to learn about new randomizers so I can manage my randomizer list accordingly. I would appreciate if you could answer this quick Straw Pool, thanks! (Pool closed, thanks!)
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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #116 on: July 22, 2018, 01:45:29 pm »
There is a new Rockman 4 randomizer, the last entry under the Rockman 4 section on this site, http://www.geocities.jp/borokobo/neo/download.html#ROCK4

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2018, 01:44:39 am »
Added Mega Man 4, thanks a lot WhiteHat94!! I also added Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon - technically their randomizer was already on the list but support was added afterwards.

Thanks to everyone that voted in the pool - I implemented the most popular answers for showcasing new randomizers, so now you'll see the recent list at the top of the page and NEW / UPDATED tags in the list itself. Right now I'm showcasing the last 3 months. Feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #118 on: July 30, 2018, 11:19:22 pm »
### Added randomizers

- Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel
- Contra (NES)

### Other changes

- Added info about crossover randomizers that requires a special emulator to run.
- Minor update to the Final Fantasy X randomizer's description.
- More general improvements and fixes related to new/updated information.
- Updated more links from HTTP to HTTPS.

EDIT: Also added The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons!

EDIT 2: Also added an updated version of the Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars randomizer!

EDIT 3: Just added an official randomizer for the Rockman 3: Winternight unofficial hack.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 11:16:03 pm by SmashManiac »

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Re: The BIG list of randomizers!!
« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2018, 03:31:37 pm »
Added randomizers
- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (new version with advanced logic)

Other changes
- Added a beta fork to the The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time item randomizer
- Moved DeathBasket's randomizer for The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask in the deprecated section as it has less features compared to the new one.
- Fixed URL for the Final Fantasy IV open world randomizer.

In other news, next Monday will be then 2nd anniversary of this thread, and the creation of The BIG List of Video Game Randomizers along with it. Thank you so much everyone! :woot!:

EDIT: I goofed. The new Majora's Mask randomizer is not playable yet, so I've reverted the changes on this regard. Sorry about that.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2018, 09:17:24 pm by SmashManiac »