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Author Topic: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation  (Read 54709 times)

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2016, 07:03:49 pm »
It looks like kuoushi might be able to translate the manual as well, so don't worry about that part! I'll let you know when I want your help laying it all out.
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2016, 02:22:08 pm »
A proper pdf scan of the manual would be super nice!

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2016, 02:13:37 pm »
Am I seeing a treasure here? 8)
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2016, 02:58:39 pm »
Better scans or pictures of the manual would be appreciated if possible, sonofashark. You could PM them to me if you want to keep them under wraps or secret or something. Mostly so I can have all of the text properly available to me, makes it easier to translate and possibly use OCR so I can use it with the rest of my translation tools.


Also, I think I've got the title. It wasn't a hard decision to make, in all honesty. It's basically just slamming the translation of the SNES game's title into this one.

E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution

Hope I didn't steal any of hollowaytape's thunder by letting you guys know the title we're probably going to go with. He's the real hero of this particular romhack.

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2016, 03:26:24 pm »
Sounds a bit too long, if you ask me.

The-the-o-ry-of-e-vo-lu-tion.
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2016, 04:09:57 pm »
The Japanese titles for both games are pretty long as well.

46 Okunen Monogatari: THE Shinkaron (PC-98)
46 Okunen Monogatari: Harukanaru Eden e (SNES)

And the official English title for the latter only really cuts down on the first part.

E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution (PC-98)
E.V.O.: Search for Eden (SNES)

I think it fits fine in general when placed next to that and considering the content of the game is pretty based on the theory of evolution as well.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2016, 10:54:11 pm by kuoushi »

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2016, 04:46:38 pm »
Hmm, I like the title, except for how long it sounds.
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2016, 05:01:24 pm »
Sounds a bit too long, if you ask me.

The-the-o-ry-of-e-vo-lu-tion.

Will do! I have a scanner I can plug in. The title AFAIK was 46 okunen monogatari...or the 46 million/billion year story, but the Theory of Evolution does sound a heck of lot less clunky :P

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2016, 05:03:42 pm »
Sure, it's an improvement over the original name.
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2016, 07:43:15 pm »
I think it's a good title. It matches the formatting of the one we ended up with, has "brand recognition" and probably a bit more of a lure than "4.6 billion year story"

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2016, 04:17:45 am »
Might I suggest a title or two? 

1 - "E.V.O:  The Origin of Species"
2 - "E.V.O:  Before Eden."

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2016, 01:50:23 am »
This is embarrassing, but does anyone have any tips on beating Lucifer at the end of Chapter 5? Trying to test some reinsertion in Chapter 6 but I am not good enough at the game to get there again.

Edit: Figured it out thanks to a Let's Play. Most of the game's combat is pretty simple, but halfway through Chapter 5, you unlock an "Item" combat option and I'm not sure what any of the suboptions do! To beat Lucifer you usually have to use lots of items, which is tough without understanding.

Anyway, I'm happy with the title E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution. I had thought about something like E.V.O.: The Origin of Species, since it alludes to this being the prequel, but this game is just as much about the future of life as it is the origin of life.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 01:11:44 pm by hollowaytape »
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2016, 04:00:43 pm »
Anyway, I'm happy with the title E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution. I had thought about something like E.V.O.: The Origin of Species, since it alludes to this being the prequel, but this game is just as much about the future of life as it is the origin of life.

On the contrary.  There is a book called "On the Origin of Species", which is very important:  It argued for the existence of evolution, and explained the mechanics by which it occurred.  Darwin's efforts gave legitimacy and popularity to evolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cPpHlcj_O4

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2016, 06:33:35 pm »
On the contrary.  There is a book called "On the Origin of Species", which is very important:  It argued for the existence of evolution, and explained the mechanics by which it occurred.  Darwin's efforts gave legitimacy and popularity to evolution.

Hahaha, I am aware of that book and its influence. And I do recognize that despite the word "origin," its contents still apply to the evolution that occurs elsewhere.

But the very first screen of the game asks us not to compare it to 'real' theories of evolution like Darwin's:



The evolution in this game definitely isn't Darwinian - slow and incremental "descent with modification" wouldn't make a very exciting game, I think.
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2016, 06:55:09 pm »
High quality scans uploaded :)

Screw being secret about it. Please credit Ultimate :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142915503@N06/albums/72157674201412105

Also, I have higher quality scans in a PDF if needed - message me your e-mail or I can drop a link here

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Better scans or pictures of the manual would be appreciated if possible, sonofashark. You could PM them to me if you want to keep them under wraps or secret or something. Mostly so I can have all of the text properly available to me, makes it easier to translate and possibly use OCR so I can use it with the rest of my translation tools.


Also, I think I've got the title. It wasn't a hard decision to make, in all honesty. It's basically just slamming the translation of the SNES game's title into this one.

E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution

Hope I didn't steal any of hollowaytape's thunder by letting you guys know the title we're probably going to go with. He's the real hero of this particular romhack.

see previous message - also I tried OCR tools with some success. Let me know if you get it all extracted :)
« Last Edit: September 22, 2016, 03:22:57 pm by sonofashark »

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2016, 12:26:16 am »
Sorry for the late reply but the scans look good enough to either OCR or just translate however. I'll let you know when I can focus on them after finishing work on the main game.

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2016, 05:43:13 am »
I'm really hyped for this! :D
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2016, 06:19:40 pm »
I wanna know, what NEC PC-98 emulator are you using to run this game?

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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2016, 06:22:29 pm »
I wanna know, what NEC PC-98 emulator are you using to run this game?

I use anex86 most of the time, and a debug version of Neko Project II on occasion. All the screenshots are from anex86.
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Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2016, 06:43:33 pm »
Wow, this is great! I tried my hand with this too but couldn't figure anything out, couldn't find any data from the files, in fact.
The screenshots looks really nice.
Looking forward to this!

EDIT: Have you decided on the name of the title? I could probably whip up a title screen graphic if that's okay, just need to know the correct wording.
EDIT EDIT:
something like this? missing a subtitle obviously but you probably get the point


That's a cool title screen mockup, but it sounded to me like SkyeWelse wanted to do the graphic edits. I am working with M-bot from the Heroes of Legend PC-98 forum to write a codec for the .GDT image format, and we're not sure about the limitations quite yet - I wanted to figure that out before any images get created for the project. Plus, no word from kuoushi about the title yet. I appreciate you whipping that up super fast, though.

Hi everryone, I'm helping HollowayTape with the graphic edits on this project and was visiting the forum to see what was new when I saw this thread. I gotta say, even though I spent forever trying to create a new Title Screen graphic, I like Racoon Sam's title graphic a lot more than mine. He also did a lot better keeping the natural blending of the colors while keeping everything in square pixels. Also, it uses the "squared off" bullets similar to that of the English SNES logo which is a nice throwback. If that's okay with Sam, let's go with his version with the subtitle. It may need to have one extra square bullet after 'O' in order to keep it consistent with the English SNES release title screen though.

Sam, here's what mine looked like and the cleaned up standalone background images if you think you can use it.







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