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Started by FlamePurge, September 01, 2015, 04:42:13 AM

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rainponcho

#180
Monster feed - wanted items
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=65560962713610051548


Give them what they currently demand and they'll eat (edit: enjoy) it, regardless of snob rating (edit3: Only exactly what they demand! Otherwise normal feeding rules apply).

If they ask for Escape though, they still find it yucky anyways (too cheap value). Even if you could make them "like" it, you gain 0 points. So kept as rejection.


edit2: Yes. I am seriously done with hacking this game. Except for maybe pot. In the far off future.

Artemis

#181
Is Escape the only item on the lists with that behaviour? If so, I guess there's an easy solution. Let's just replace it with something else then.

October 31, 2016, 11:05:30 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

Looking at the lists, then Green Tea also might be too cheap.

So in order for the fix to work, all items have to be worth at least 500 GP, right?
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rainponcho

It auto-rejects anything under 200G - Green Tea (10G), Knife / Carver (13G), Escape (100G), Fry Pan.

500G = Rank1 = 1 point. So probably yes.

It responded yum to all other items in list.

Artemis

#183
So exactly these four items then? Okay, I'll think of some replacements.

This should do it:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/d8h2u2ym4pmmgha/CM_wishlist_update.ips

Can you verify that now all items work as well as these new items (Dagger, Whip, Tap Rose, Hi-Boomerang) are really unique in the feeding wishlists?
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rainponcho


Artemis

#185
Okay, I'll test a little bit and then I'll update it later on.

And would you say the CM patch works without problems? I did test it a little bit, but considering I have little grasp of this feeding stuff, it's somewhat hard to judge for me and I don't know what's to test specifically.

So the only thing the patch does is prioritizing being thankful for desired items over their snobby nature - and nothing else, right?

November 01, 2016, 12:57:46 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

And that's it really, really then? So if poncho doesn't say something else - like anything in work still - I'll put it together than later today.
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

rainponcho

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So the only thing the patch does is prioritizing being thankful for desired items over their snobby nature - and nothing else, right?

That's exactly it.


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And that's it really, really then? So if poncho doesn't say something else - like anything in work still

No, nothing else right now. There really is almost nothing else to do - the complete package works well and covers about nearly everything.

Artemis

Quote from: rainponcho on November 01, 2016, 05:13:13 PM
That's exactly it.

And this is stable - so no problems to expect there, right?
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

KingMike

If the point of this is bugfixes, I would leave the Capsule Monster item-acceptance a separate patch as that is more of a cheat than a bugfix.

Unless it is about how Capsule Monsters request different items (in the NA version) than they SHOULD (in the JP/PAL versions).
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rainponcho

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Unless it is about how Capsule Monsters request different items (in the NA version) than they SHOULD (in the JP/PAL versions).

They definitely behave the same way in all 3 regions (vanilla roms).


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And this is stable - so no problems to expect there, right?

There seems nothing wrong. It's a really small hack and doesn't seem to affect anything else.


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If the point of this is bugfixes, I would leave the Capsule Monster item-acceptance a separate patch as that is more of a cheat than a bugfix.

This I leave to Artemis response.

(There's Spekkio, Frue and Kureji which I think combine feature + bugfixes. They do demand certain items which they will never ever like in vanilla roms and after you feed them expensive weapons - but this can be a cheat too. FF7 had a spirit fix which acted more like a cheat than a fix in a way - makes game enough easier)


Glad I'm not in charge of decision making with any project.


edit: To me, they both make sense in either direction, but it does make the game -easier-. Yeah I guess that's a cheat.

Okay with me for my own rom. Not for others I guess. :)

Artemis

#190
Okay, here is it!!! Though, let's again call it beta for a while.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/h9x0b7yqlh154y4/Lufia-Patches_v3.zip


About the CM, yes we cannot say for sure if there's a bug. However, it just feels unnatural. There is this gameplay mechanic about them giving us their feed wishes and the game communicates us that something good is supposed to happen if we fulfil these wishes. There's nothing that suggests that this good stuff is really supposed to be optional. (Actually a single line of dialogue might change that, but it just isn't there.)

So assuming this behaviour is no bug, I guess it's safe to assume the developers either didn't think things through enough or they just were flat out trolling. My guess is the former. It may not necessarily be a bugfix, but if it's not, it's a fix for a not thought-out enough mechanic instead.

Therefore, the CM change is included in Frue/Spekkio, but not in Kureji. Because I'm openly trolling in that regard there...
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

rainponcho

Made it to Cave Bridge north of Merix.

This is where sprite data gets changed (aka pot data). When the party falls into holes during cutscenes, this is when that code gets triple triggered. Which gives me partial idea - check if party member or enemy data then adjust. Probably still tricky though. Need to play more of game to be sure.

Also CM want list patch runs into problems when they get to high levels like 2 or 3. They start asking for stuff like Mace or Long Sword. Which they don't care for anymore at this stage - +0 growth value. No yuck and no thanks. It just resets the snob meter to the last item asked and wants something else. Thoughts? Scrap?

Artemis

#192
Quote from: rainponcho on November 01, 2016, 11:31:29 PMScrap?

Yeah.

November 02, 2016, 01:03:37 AM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

Then this shall be the actual new (beta) version:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/a2fa8zup0k2abnf/Lufia-Patches_v3.zip
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

FlamePurge

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Artemis

#194
- no alternative way, but some more boundary issues are fixed
- the HP/MP overflow
- the config menu issue 

November 02, 2016, 11:07:59 AM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

And now the only issue remianing is the pot glitch, right?

Let's just scrap the CM stuff and accept their picky behaviour. However, there will be another new (remake) patch where in the final battle Daos instead of fighting himself summons HIS Foomy - and he's strong.

Any suggestions for a clever pun for the name of Dao's big Foomy? (The sprite is the original level 1 form.) At best something that combines Foomy and his pickyness.

I think I'll go with Snoomy.
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

rainponcho

There's this list, which I think you have most covered. I'll be happy if it doesn't add to my misery, but bringing it up for completeness.
https://tcrf.net/User:West/Bugs:Lufia_II:_Rise_of_the_Sinistrals


Snooty => Snoomy upvoted.


I think pot glitch was meant for some scrapped feature from prototype era. Still testing this everywhere, and looking for safer way to install hack.

There's also 1 experiment trying out with Ancient Tower 2F, since I got there. If it doesn't work out, I don't care.

Artemis

#196
Out of these glitches, I think the only one worth checking out is the Ferim Northeast Tower "Walk on Air" Glitch.

And maybe the Level Up Display Bug. However, I have the feeling that by fixing this there's a too big potential to destroy more than you actually fix. So let's skip this one.

Everything else is either mentioned or fixed, anyway.

November 03, 2016, 10:54:21 AM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

About Snoomy:

As it's based on reli's old patch, Snoomy will have a wave attack, too.

I thought of a pun on refusal. As I'm no native English speaker I'm not sure which of these two is the better one: Refoomal or Refoosal.

If I use Refoomal Wave, is it clear enough that it's a pun of refusal? Or should I go with the more obvious Refoosal Wave?
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

rainponcho

Refoomal - takes more (of my) brainpower to link it to "refuse". I get it more because I "cheated" and read what the intention is.

Refoosal - that doesn't take much thought. Sticks out like a thorn though.


Refoomal is more "clever" to me as a "poetic" word.

Refoosmal looks weird as text, but I get that one.


I'm not at all good at word games. :)

Artemis

Yeah, Refoomsal sounds a bit weird, but I'd say I'll go with it
My silly RPG Maker 2k game (German language, and be warned: it's as trollish as Kureji Lufia):
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fe11rhmcd5ldo4o/Flannida_Tales_-_TPoD_-_v1-2.zip/file

rainponcho

If Snoomy shares some of Daos' traits (demeaning, prickly), then refoosal wave fits that purpose. Direct, blunt with no sugar coating - "In your face, *!".