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#### Hypnotic_rabbit

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2015, 10:17:21 am »
I know i posted a lot but this one should be my last in this thread, it took me awhile to understand but I totally get it now but for anyone reading this that still dont get it i guess i can give you my take on it in as well. (pic related)

http://i.imgur.com/bFMpouk.png

16 bytes all together
First 8 is the lower plane that creates its own version of the 8x8
Second 8 is higher plane that creates its own version of the 8x8 as well
Each 1 byte in the 8 represents a line across on the tile
Convert each byte from hex into its binary and put the planes in binary format on top of each other as in the picture
When layed on top of each other you get 4 different possibilities (the colors) between the two planes
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0 1 0 1
0 0 1 1
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0 = black
0

1 = green
0

0 = blue
1

1 = teal
1

#### Disch

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2015, 10:34:32 am »
for some inane reason

Simpler hardware design.

You can have a different shift register for each plane, and can change which bit you extract depending on the fine horizontal scroll.  You could accomplish the same thing with a more traditional 2bpp graphics format but it would probably require more circuitry.

#### Grimlock

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2015, 02:03:10 pm »
but to have someone tell me an editor isnt changing the hex values in the rom makes me laugh.

I think it was pretty obvious that I was referring to the address...  It makes me laugh when someone completely misunderstands my post right after I completely misunderstand theirs    .

#### Hypnotic_rabbit

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2015, 02:24:28 pm »
I think it was pretty obvious that I was referring to the address...  It makes me laugh when someone completely misunderstands my post right after I completely misunderstand theirs    .

Fair enough, but i have to admit i didnt explain what i was asking about very well to begin with. Take in to consideration that i was clueless about the topic when i started this thread. Everythings good now, aint nothing left to do but implement what iv learned here.

#### Dr. Floppy

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2015, 06:28:26 pm »
« Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 12:49:35 am by Dr. Floppy »

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2015, 06:49:26 pm »
@Dr. Floppy
None of your images are showing up.
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#### Dr. Floppy

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2015, 08:59:27 pm »
@Dr. Floppy
None of your images are showing up.

Still?!?!?

Rotwang just fixed the permissions to allow non-members to view imagery...

#### mz

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2015, 09:07:30 pm »
Rotwang just fixed the permissions to allow non-members to view imagery...
This has nothing to do with members or non-members of a site.

Most servers, including that one, block hotlinking to prevent bandwidth stealing.

Just use a image hosting server like everybody else in the world. Imgur is the best and most popular one, you should learn how to use it.
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#### Dr. Floppy

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2015, 10:03:00 pm »
This has nothing to do with members or non-members of a site. Most servers, including that one, block hotlinking to prevent bandwidth stealing.
Hotlinking has worked just fine before. Rotwang turned certain permissions off last week to experiment with blocking Russian spambots.

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Just use a image hosting server like everybody else in the world. Imgur is the best and most popular one, you should learn how to use it.
Yeah, I already tried Imgur twice and it sucked lobster dick both times (see prior thread). PostImg seems to be working, though.

#### mz

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2015, 10:14:51 pm »
Yeah, I already tried Imgur twice and it sucked lobster dick both times (see prior thread).

I know you did. That's why I said "you should learn how to use it."

PostImg is a huge piece of shit and it doesn't work at all for anybody else. Only works for you because, again, you already have that image in your browser cache.

My final advice: Stop using shitty servers and learn how to use Imgur.
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#### Disch

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2015, 10:55:57 pm »
Yeah, I already tried Imgur twice and it sucked lobster dick both times (see prior thread). PostImg seems to be working, though.

Que?

go to imgur.com, click on "upload", drag+drop image (or click browse and select it), copy/paste link.

It's about as simple as possible.

Also if you are using PostImg it does not appear to be working, because I still haven't seen any image you have posted.

EDIT:

See how easy it is?

(as you can see, I'm currently playing Destiny)

#### Dr. Floppy

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2015, 12:27:41 am »
I know you did. That's why I said "you should learn how to use it."

PostImg is a huge piece of shit and it doesn't work at all for anybody else. Only works for you because, again, you already have that image in your browser cache.

My final advice: Stop using shitty servers and learn how to use Imgur.

Have I been rude or unprofessional towards you?

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go to imgur.com, click on "upload", drag+drop image (or click browse and select it), copy/paste link.

It's about as simple as possible.

I'm sure it is. Which means there's no learning curve involved; Imgur simply isn't working on my end. I gave it permissions via No\$cript and AdBlock and it still wouldn't cooperate. I tried a different browser. Still nothing. Exactly how much time am I supposed to waste before I'm allowed to just try some other imagehost?

#### Disch

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2015, 12:31:08 am »
weird.  Have you tried tinypic?  They're my #2

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2015, 12:36:33 am »

#### Disch

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2015, 12:44:19 am »
tinypic seems to be working!  yay

#### Dr. Floppy

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2015, 12:48:07 am »
Thank the great good Lord.

And thank you, Mr. Disch. I'll be using TinyPic henceforth.

#### Jeville

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##### Re: Nes sprite editing with only hex editor
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2015, 05:10:16 am »
I'm sure it is. Which means there's no learning curve involved; Imgur simply isn't working on my end. I gave it permissions via No\$cript and AdBlock and it still wouldn't cooperate. I tried a different browser. Still nothing. Exactly how much time am I supposed to waste before I'm allowed to just try some other imagehost?
Error happens if you don't use a mouse click at all when selecting a picture. Just don't use the keyboard for everything.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 05:19:52 am by Jeville »