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The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past v1.5
« on: June 07, 2015, 08:28:56 am »
*UPDATE v1.5/1.6 NOTES:*
-Updated and fixed SEVERAL dialogue strings, including...
--"Flute" Boy's grandpa
--Random bar patron
--Agahnim's first encounter (FINALLY)
--Priest first encounter
--Bully when holding Moon Pearl
--Bottle Salesman
--Brother sealed in his room
-FINALLY fixed the colors on Link's "dead" sprite so he's not wearing red gloves or something.
-I arbitrarily chose the version number so I can keep track.

*NEW BETA UPDATE*
-A TON of text fixes
-The tiles in Kakariko are finally fixed
Some of the sprites have been updated (for instance, "full bunny" Link now has white fur on his belly)
-A lot of general clean-up

*UPDATE:*
-Removed (hopefully) all the Telepathy Boxes from the dungeons for dialogue space
-Fixed some formatting errors (STILL LOTS TO GO, SO REPORT THEM AS YOU SEE THEM!)
-Changed references to the "flute" to say "ocarina," except in the items menu. Still figuring that one out. Li'l help, please? XP
-Added new dialogue for the fortune teller's fortunes
-Various little odds and ends

*STILL TO DO:*
-Continue fixing formatting errors
-Change "flute" to "ocarina" in the items menu
-Maybe update some item sprites and palettes here and there. Not fully satisfied with the Mirror Shield yet. And I might revert the first sword and shield as well as the triforce to their original colors. Opinions on this are desired!



Walking and keeping to himself in the fields near Hyrule Castle, a young child named Link hears a distressed cry for help. Running towards the cry, he sees Princess Zelda being imprisoned by the dark priest Agahnim and rushes in to try to save her. Sadly, the inexperienced child is defeated easily and subdued. For his trouble, Agahnim transforms Link into a monster, leaving him in the fields of Hyrule to fend for himself as the new creation of the mage.

As Link lies on the ground, a pouring rain begins to fall. When all hope seems lost, a lone figure approaches, having heard the commotion and taking note of the loose, green tunic that is so familiar. Coming closer, Link's uncle sets the lantern to the side and scoops the pink rabbit into his arms, confused and fearful for his charge.

As Link lays unconscious, sniffling and shivering on his bed, his uncle looks at the shield and sword hanging on the wall. The dark priest Agahnim has gone to far. Taking the sword in his hand, he contemplates what could be done. He's now the uncle of a monster, but he knows that Link is still Link, no matter what. His nephew...

Link's uncle examines the sharp blade carefully, hesitating only a little. And yet, he had always taught his nephew about courage and compassion. If he wouldn't protect his family, no one would.

Meanwhile, Link's body remains that of a rabbit. As he slowly regains consciousness, he hears a voice in his mind. It's Princess Zelda, and she is calling to him, begging him to help her.

Link slowly opens his eyes. He knows he is different now, but it doesn't matter. He has to do the right thing. It's time to save Princess Zelda, no matter what form he's in. Thus begins the unusual tale of the hero people least suspect.


What is this mod?

Ever since I was a little kid playing A Link to the Past for the first time, I always thought the concept behind Bunny Link was such an interesting one. Probably a bit silly on my part, but true. This mod is kind of the realization of that desire.

In a nutshell, this is a graphical and text hack in which Link is Bunny Link from the beginning all the way to the end. The gameplay is unchanged (by personal preference, since I like the way the original game plays and didn't want to mess with perfectly good level design), but Link has been 100% reanimated as a less-helpless version of Bunny Link.

And yes, without spoiling anything, something DOES change when Link enters the Dark World for the first time.

What is done on it?

All of Link's animation sprites have been changed, as has a lot of dialogue, reflecting the slight change in the story. In addition, a handful of items have been changed, certain palettes have been altered APART from Link himself. (This is not due to a palette limitation but rather just a stylistic change.)

One of the trickiest parts of this was fixing his coloration while wearing the Power Glove or the Titan's Mitt. These two items change the color of Link's hands normally, but with Bunny Link, that ended up missing with a lot of his palette. As such I really needed to delve deep and find the correct hex of the glove palette, then calculate the color code and finally change the color. It was tough, but I'm proud that I managed it!

Finally, the text in the "telepathy" boxes has mostly been dummied out for dialogue space.

What still needs to be done?

I still want to fix up a couple of sprites here and there. I need to update the menu colors on the updated Mirrored Shield. In addition, the Mirrored Shield occasionally doesn't appear reflective, which should be a relatively easy fix.

I'll eventually be removing the telepathy boxes entirely since they're of no practical use on this version.

Slight animation tweaks here and there.

Possible other changes in the future?

I have an idea of a little bit of music editing on it, but unfortunately, that is going to be EXCEPTIONALLY difficult, because there is simply no easy way to code music that I've seen.

Maybe... MAYBE one day I might make some level edits, but I'm doubting that. If I did something like that, it would have to be a completely different project.

Got any screenshots?

Why yes. Yes, I have!

Spoiler:

The tale begins...


Digging for treasure...


I don't think that will budge...


Bunny Link prayi- err... I mean "wishing."


Even with Flippers, bunnies don't seem to like the water much...


The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past!

Okay! You've sold me! Where can I download this patch?

Right here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9X_IQFrnAWIQzF0M1JTdXZkX1E

Is there any way I can help with this?

Definitely! First of all, if you notice any glitched out text, take a screenshot and show me. Formatting the text is a bit tricky and sometimes adding too many words to a single line will cause issues. I've mostly fixed everything, but there's always a possibility I missed some stuff!

If you have any opinions on the changes, or notice anything odd, that's helpful to me too!

Tell your friends if you'd like. If you feel like Tweeting or streaming it, by all means. You have my blessing! Just let me know and I'll come watch!

And finally, just have some fun. This was meant to be entertaining and amusing, so if it was, then that's what matters most to me.

Thank you guys!
« Last Edit: December 07, 2016, 05:11:28 pm by Ryusuta »

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2015, 11:23:17 am »
What version of rom you use?   
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2015, 01:39:55 pm »
Ah cool. It's always nice to see new ALttP hackers (like Christmas actually if they appear to have talent). There are so few of us because Hyrule Magic is such an unholy abomination. Nice work so far.



This is the part of Link's palette(s) that changes when you get gloves. If you want to avoid problems just take any parts of your sprites that use this (should only be his hands) and just use the regular skin tone (the 4th color) instead. It's not like you will be missing anything by disabling that change this way. I think having the hand color change with the gloves is wasted effort on Nintendo's part.  It's such a small and subtle change that I had played the game for 20 years and never noticed that Link's hands changed color when he gets gloves.

And I was just talking about text editing over at Zeldix.net last night so I'll quote myself here:

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I don't know what method you use, but here's what I do.

I have two copies of HM open, one with the hack I'm working on and another with a test ROM.

1) pick a piece of dialogue from your hack to edit (I say this because in my case I'm editing the existing dialogue from BCvsG) and copy/paste it into slot #31 in the monologue editor in your test ROM

2) edit your dialogue and then save (in your test ROM)

3) load your test ROM in ZSNES, fast forward to the title (I use a real SNES controller and have the fast forward mapped to the L button for convenience) and press A or whatever, start a new game, if you put your new dialogue in the right spot it will be the first piece of dialogue you see in the game (when link is in bed) and is a very quick way of testing

4) if there are any issues, repeat steps 2 and 3, if there are no problems copy/paste the finished dialogue into the correct spot in your hack's monologue

That's the quickest way I know of since you can't use save states for this.

Hope that helps. Keep up the good work.

EDIT: I'm in the middle of a massive dialogue edit so if you have any questions feel free to ask. I think I've practically mastered it by now.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2015, 02:56:58 pm »
What version of rom you use?

The US version. I don't recall exactly which release it was, as I've had the rom for ages.

Ah cool. It's always nice to see new ALttP hackers (like Christmas actually if they appear to have talent). There are so few of us because Hyrule Magic is such an unholy abomination. Nice work so far.



This is the part of Link's palette(s) that changes when you get gloves. If you want to avoid problems just take any parts of your sprites that use this (should only be his hands) and just use the regular skin tone (the 4th color) instead. It's not like you will be missing anything by disabling that change this way. I think having the hand color change with the gloves is wasted effort on Nintendo's part.  It's such a small and subtle change that I had played the game for 20 years and never noticed that Link's hands changed color when he gets gloves.

No, no. I've already fixed the color thing! It's already done. =)

Also, this method unfortunately doesn't work because it only changes the DEFAULT hand coloration. You can't fix the glove coloration in Hyrule Magic, I'm sorry to say. You need to instead use a more extensive palette hacker, manually search for the color and change the color code. It's a very tedious process and kind of a pain. But as I said, I took care of it, so no worries!

Thanks a bunch for your support and interest in this, though! They truly and honestly mean a lot to me. =)

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2015, 03:28:48 pm »
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Also, this method unfortunately doesn't work because it only changes the DEFAULT hand coloration. You can't fix the glove coloration in Hyrule Magic, I'm sorry to say.

I know. I was just suggesting an easy way to avoid the problem altogether since the glove changing the hand color is IMO a pretty useless and trivial detail that no one will miss. For example, to avoid the glove changing the hand color I just don't use that particular slot in the palette since the gloves will change it's color no matter what it is replaced with.

I noticed some of your dialogue has really short lines. Don't be afraid to play with the formatting if you haven't begun this already.

[2] - starts the second line
[3] - starts the third line
[Scroll] - scrolls down a line
[Waitkey] - waits for the players response before scrolling further if there is more text

Sorry if you already know this. Just trying to help. :)

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I like the dialogue changes. It's nice that the story has been adjusted accordingly instead of just being a simple sprite hack. Heh, not that editing Link's sprite is simple considering how many frames it contains. I know that ALL too well:
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2015, 05:56:02 pm »
I know. I was just suggesting an easy way to avoid the problem altogether since the glove changing the hand color is IMO a pretty useless and trivial detail that no one will miss. For example, to avoid the glove changing the hand color I just don't use that particular slot in the palette since the gloves will change it's color no matter what it is replaced with.

I noticed some of your dialogue has really short lines. Don't be afraid to play with the formatting if you haven't begun this already.

That's kind of a low priority for me as it's very hard to test while writing. But we'll see!

[2] - starts the second line
[3] - starts the third line
[Scroll] - scrolls down a line
[Waitkey] - waits for the players response before scrolling further if there is more text

Sorry if you already know this. Just trying to help. :)

I wouldn't have been able to change the dialogue if I didn't already know this. I'm not sure how I should take that. ^^;

I really do appreciate the thought, though. I hope I'm not coming off as ungrateful. That is definitely not my intention.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I like the dialogue changes. It's nice that the story has been adjusted accordingly instead of just being a simple sprite hack. Heh, not that editing Link's sprite is simple considering how many frames it contains. I know that ALL too well:
Pinky's Quest

Thank you! That really does mean a lot to me. I'm glad you're enjoying it! =)
« Last Edit: June 07, 2015, 06:01:41 pm by Ryusuta »

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2015, 06:23:36 pm »
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I wouldn't have been able to change the dialogue if I didn't already know this. I'm not sure how I should take that. ^^;

You'd be surprised how much a person can get away with by working within the contraints of the existing material (my glove solution is a good example). I just assumed that you didn't know the specifics of this stuff already due to all of the wasted space:



Take it as me being over-eager to help someone because of how pathetic is the number of Zelda III hackers considering how awesome and revered the game is. When I see someone new I try to help as much as I can (perhaps too much).

Anyway, I look forward to seeing where this project goes. :)
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2015, 07:05:30 pm »
It's fine. I'm just generally not great at handling volunteered advice. It's something I'm trying to improve about myself. I tend to feel offended if someone explains very basic things to me because I feel it implies that I haven't already figured it out on my own. But I know you didn't mean any offense, though. It's just my own weird perspective. Sorry if I ever sound ungrateful; it's not intended.

As to your suggestion, I will probably play with the formatting a bit later on, but for now it seems a really minor thing. I definitely do appreciate your observations, but I want to work on the actual goals first and then clean up the little details later.

Anyway, I'm definitely very familiar with Hyrule Magic, so there's no worry on that score. I definitely appreciate the thought, though. I know you mean well. Thanks for your interest. =)
« Last Edit: June 07, 2015, 07:19:31 pm by Ryusuta »

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2015, 07:14:23 pm »
As with most Utilities, the best way to work with Hyrule Tragic is to make small, defined changes and compare that test-ROM to the Control Original. Over time, one can usually identify which ROM areas control/affect what in-game, and then make larger subsequent edits via Translhextion (or whatever). This avoids the ROM corruption fate so often seen with Utilities.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2015, 07:28:56 pm »
As with most Utilities, the best way to work with Hyrule Tragic is to make small, defined changes and compare that test-ROM to the Control Original. Over time, one can usually identify which ROM areas control/affect what in-game, and then make larger subsequent edits via Translhextion (or whatever). This avoids the ROM corruption fate so often seen with Utilities.

Yep. That's very true!

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2015, 07:50:19 pm »
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As with most Utilities, the best way to work with Hyrule Tragic is to make small, defined changes and compare that test-ROM to the Control Original.

Some times I wonder if HM was designed to punish us... :'(

Oh yeah, Ryusata. I mentioned Zeldix earlier but I failed to mention that it is a forum that mainly just centers around A Link to the Past hacking. I thought I would point that out just in case you had never been there. It has loads of technical data/helpful docs, patches and all around resources pertaining to this game. You can find many good ideas/solutions just by browing through the threads as well.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2015, 09:05:37 pm »
Some times I wonder if HM was designed to punish us... :'(

Oh yeah, Ryusata. I mentioned Zeldix earlier but I failed to mention that it is a forum that mainly just centers around A Link to the Past hacking. I thought I would point that out just in case you had never been there. It has loads of technical data/helpful docs, patches and all around resources pertaining to this game. You can find many good ideas/solutions just by browing through the threads as well.

Ah yes. I'm familiar with them. =)

I found them while I was desperately searching for a LttP hex map. Sadly, I had no luck finding it. =(

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2015, 06:24:45 am »
That's the most updated hex map which currently exists. It was done by Math On Napkins, and you'll find it in the Zelda_3_ROM file.

http://www.romhacking.net/documents/365/

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2015, 09:52:17 am »
Quote from: puzzledude link=topic=19894.msg280077#http://www.romhacking.net/smf/Smileys/newyabb/evil.gifmsg280077 date=1433759085
That's the most updated hex map which currently exists. It was done by Math On Napkins, and you'll find it in the Zelda_3_ROM file.

http://www.romhacking.net/documents/365/

Oh man, that could have been SOOOooo helpful back when I was working on the gloves fix. But this might still come in handy! Thank you so very much!

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2015, 04:36:43 pm »
Oh boy, you're working on something I've always wanted to see! When my internet's not sucking so hard, I'll have to give this a go. I hope Bunny Link turns into one of those ball guys you see getting kicked around on Death Mountain... but with a hat. I'll find out when I get a chance to play it, until then, keep up the awesome work!
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2015, 11:12:29 pm »
Oh boy, you're working on something I've always wanted to see! When my internet's not sucking so hard, I'll have to give this a go. I hope Bunny Link turns into one of those ball guys you see getting kicked around on Death Mountain... but with a hat. I'll find out when I get a chance to play it, until then, keep up the awesome work!

My pleasure. I truly and honestly hope that you'll enjoy it, and I look forward to hearing what you think. =)

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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2015, 08:51:12 am »
I really like where this is going. I was actually thinking "it would be cool if the whole of Hyrule was bunnies" but then it would be just a re-hash of LTTP with bunny characters. I like how you're building a story around the fact that the character is a bunny being central to the story. Very neat so far. Definitely will be trying this one when you've got it where you want it!!
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2015, 01:56:40 pm »
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I really like where this is going. I was actually thinking "it would be cool if the whole of Hyrule was bunnies" but then it would be just a re-hash of LTTP with bunny characters.

Hopefully Ryusuta's work will inspire someone to make such a hack (the more ALttP hacks the better).

Early on when I was still trying to figure out what I wanted to do with ALttP I considered making a hack where all of the enemies were human and all of the NPCs were monsters. Like it was some alternate Hyrule where things were backwards or something. I still think it's a cool idea but I'll probably get more satisfaction out of the path(s) I've chosen.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2015, 10:13:47 am »
Hopefully Ryusuta's work will inspire someone to make such a hack (the more ALttP hacks the better).

Early on when I was still trying to figure out what I wanted to do with ALttP I considered making a hack where all of the enemies were human and all of the NPCs were monsters. Like it was some alternate Hyrule where things were backwards or something. I still think it's a cool idea but I'll probably get more satisfaction out of the path(s) I've chosen.

Yes, I like both of those ideas a lot! And thank you both for everything.

I promise I'm not trying to sleep on the updates for this. Real life stuff has just been kind of getting in the way. Plus my level of focus isn't... the best. But I'm definitely working on some updates!

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A (Bunny) Link to the Past *Updated!*
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2016, 04:56:37 am »
Hey, wow. It's been awhile! Due to recent interest and a couple of LPs that have been made, I did some cleanup work on this mod. There's still a lot to do, so keep me posted if you find anything that needs fixing!

*UPDATE:*
-Removed (hopefully) all the Telepathy Boxes from the dungeons for dialogue space
-Fixed some formatting errors (STILL LOTS TO GO, SO REPORT THEM AS YOU SEE THEM!)
-Changed references to the "flute" to say "ocarina," except in the items menu. Still figuring that one out. Li'l help, please? XP
-Added new dialogue for the fortune teller's fortunes
-Various little odds and ends

*STILL TO DO:*
-Continue fixing formatting errors
-Change "flute" to "ocarina" in the items menu
-Maybe update some item sprites and palettes here and there. Not fully satisfied with the Mirror Shield yet. And I might revert the first sword and shield as well as the triforce to their original colors. Opinions on this are desired!