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Started by Tomato, September 11, 2011, 08:49:13 AM

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Garoth Moulinoski

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Tomato

A while back I stumbled upon this nifty Japanese program that analyzes and dumps data from FFIV and FFIV Easy Type into nice HTML files:

http://s-endo.skr.jp/ff_analyzer.html

I'd like to try using it (or modifying it, since the source is available) to dump FFII SNES's data too, that way I can see if there are any technical differences too. I'm having trouble getting command line C compilers to work on my Windows 7 so I thought I'd ask here - has anyone ever used this program on FFII SNES before?

KingMike

I don't think it's yet been brought up that apparently Cid, Yang and (less surprisingly) FuSoYa weren't important enough to warrant an introduction in the WonderSwan Color manual. :P

(OT: so I noticed that as I was scanning the manuals to my very small WS collection. Surprised I ended up amassing five of the ten WSC games Square released.
Or maybe it was nine. The last game was Front Mission, sequential #10 (SQRC10), but that's assuming Color game ID #3 wasn't reserved for FF3.
If so, that's FF1, FF2, two original games, and then five ports under the "Square Masterpieces" label.
Still more love than the WSC got from most third-parties. :P )
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Tomato

Oops, I forgot to mention I updated this yesterday: http://matotree.com/localization/final-fantasy-iv/mysidia-2/ It features the legend stuff - while writing it I thought of you, Ryusui  ;)

Some more status update info here too: http://matotree.com/2012/11/final-fantasy-iv-comparison-update-mysidia-2/

At some point I need to go back a few sections and insert some interesting things from the Playstation, PSP, etc. versions but I wonder if I should just save that stuff for later so that I can get momentum back.

KingMike

I think you made a mistake and posted the English screen twice on the first subject on the page.
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Tomato

Yeah, someone pointed it out a little bit ago so I fixed it - but then I somehow undid it, oops.

Tomato

This is a gigantic bump, but first, I thought I'd mention that I moved these localization comparisons to its own site: http://legendsoflocalization.com/

Also, Ryusui, you might be interested in this FFIV guide that arrived today. Check out the text on the front cover!



Usually English text on stuff like this is just gibberish, so that came as a real surprise!

Ryusui

...whoa. The only glitch in all that is "whom." And maybe the ampersand.
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Celice

I can understand the use of the 'whom' if the overall intent of the statement is a demonstrative to whomever was born of the dragon.

:o

DSwizzy145

Has anyone know any differences between the USA, European (Pal) Versions to Japanese version of SNES/SFC Lagoon?

Eien Ni Hen

Quote from: DSwizzy145 on June 01, 2013, 10:01:13 PM
Has anyone know any differences between the USA, European (Pal) Versions to Japanese version of SNES/SFC Lagoon?

Geez, Lagoon is such an obscure game.  :laugh:

I played the Japanese SFC version many years ago and I vaguely remember some of it being different than the US version. I think there were some name differences and I swear you could buy a manekineko (lucky cat) at a shop in one of the towns. I remember the X68000 version being very different than the SFC Japanese version, too.
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Azkadellia

I've played both the SNES/SFC and X68000 versions of Lagoon. I prefer the X68k version (even though I haven't a clue as to what the hell's going on) due to it having a superior battle system (think Hydlide NES. Hold down attack button and ram.) and superior music.
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Eien Ni Hen

Quote from: Azkadellia on June 01, 2013, 11:41:32 PM
I've played both the SNES/SFC and X68000 versions of Lagoon. I prefer the X68k version (even though I haven't a clue as to what the hell's going on) due to it having a superior battle system (think Hydlide NES. Hold down attack button and ram.) and superior music.

I agree. The SNES/SFC version has shitty controls, too, from what I recall. I wouldn't mind translating the X68k version at some point. Too bad there aren't more people interested in X68k translations.  ;)
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Celice

Dude, I'd love a translation of Lagoon on the X68000. I loved Lagoon growing up, and I learned about it being a shite port a year or two back, but I could never find more info on the original... I've been wanting to play it forever D:

Azkadellia

Quote from: Eien Ni Hen on June 01, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
Too bad there aren't more people interested in X68k translations.  ;)

Indeed. There's some damn good games for it.
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Lilinda

IMO, SNES Lagoon isn't such a bad port, but the main issue is that the game itself is kinda bland. It's like a C+ game. Not really much point to play it other than for the X68K version's supposedly(I say supposedly because I haven't heard much if any of it) awesome soundtrack. The environments were changed, and neither were the graphics. The battle system really isn't THAT different. The main thing is you mash buttons to swing rather than holding it down. Given the nature of the game and how you had to angle your attack in both versions in an Ys-like manner, well...

I just don't see much of a difference. Was the plot majorly changed between the US and Japanese releases of SNES Lagoon, or the SNES and X68K releases of it? That might warrant a translation as well as the music...
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DSwizzy145

Yeah speaking of X68000 Games i've been peeping on those for a very long time wondering if you guys were interested in old school PC games as i was back in the mid to late 1990's to mid 2000's ;)Very great looking games which i personaly believe there comparable to SNES/SFC & Famicom/nes but 100x better imo! p.s If you guys want a good library of them check em out here: http://mercenaryforce.web.fc2.com/x68k/x68000.html :thumbsup:

Eien Ni Hen

Quote from: I.S.T. on June 02, 2013, 07:32:54 AM
Was the plot majorly changed between the US and Japanese releases of SNES Lagoon, or the SNES and X68K releases of it? That might warrant a translation as well as the music...

Yes, the X68k version has a few small differences in plot. This website details some of them. For example, there are more/different quests before leaving Atland, and Nasir has a sister (Reia) that you can visit. Also, the X68k version has some sweet cutscenes and better graphics.
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Lilinda

Hmm, in the stream I watched of it once(Thanks Azkadellia!), I didn't notice much of a difference in the graphics... That said, it was a stream. Those can reduce graphics quality even when broadcasting ancient systems like the X68K.
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Gideon Zhi

Quote from: Eien Ni Hen on June 02, 2013, 11:38:54 AM
Yes, the X68k version has a few small differences in plot. This website details some of them. For example, there are more/different quests before leaving Atland, and Nasir has a sister (Reia) that you can visit. Also, the X68k version has some sweet cutscenes and better graphics.

Damn, I just realized: PROGRAMMED BY NASIR.