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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #660 on: October 13, 2013, 08:25:08 pm »


Here's another Nekketsu game title screen courtesy of FlashPV. Don't really like hot-blooded as part of the title. Sounds clunky if you ask me. I'm open for other alternatives though.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #661 on: October 13, 2013, 09:18:02 pm »


Here's another Nekketsu game title screen courtesy of FlashPV. Don't really like hot-blooded as part of the title. Sounds clunky if you ask me. I'm open for other alternatives though.

How about Nekketsu High School: Battle Royale ?

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If you're going to use the Japanese title, for the love of god, translate 熱血. "Hot-Blooded High" sounds just fine in English.

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I think Nekketsu High School has a better ring to the series than "Hot-Blooded High"
don't you agree?
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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #662 on: October 13, 2013, 09:40:46 pm »
You could also try to match the localization of Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari and call it "River City: Street Kings" or "River City: Fighting Legend" or maybe even "Downtown: Fighting Legend".

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #663 on: October 14, 2013, 05:08:54 pm »
I think Nekketsu High School has a better ring to the series than "Hot-Blooded High"
don't you agree?
No, I don't. Nekketsu is a Japanese word that has no place in an English translation. Aside from possibly having been told what it means, or recognizing it as "part of the name of the Kunio franchise", no native English speaker would know what 熱血 means.

If you're going to leave Nekketsu in, why not leave the whole thing and call it "Nekketsu Koukou"? Because 高校 means "high school", and no one would know what the hell it said.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #664 on: October 14, 2013, 05:26:07 pm »
No, I don't. Nekketsu is a Japanese word that has no place in an English translation. Aside from possibly having been told what it means, or recognizing it as "part of the name of the Kunio franchise", no native English speaker would know what 熱血 means.

If you're going to leave Nekketsu in, why not leave the whole thing and call it "Nekketsu Koukou"? Because 高校 means "high school", and no one would know what the hell it said.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #665 on: October 14, 2013, 07:24:05 pm »
I dunno, I could see it go either way based on personal preference.  I mean, on the one hand, Nekketsu is treated as a proper noun within the series and so it seems like something that would be OK to leave untranslated.  Then again, "Hot-Blooded High" does have a rather interesting ring to it.

That said, I'm also thinking about other schools from the series for consistency.  If Kunio attends Hot-Blooded High, then Riki attends Flower Garden High, which is... interesting.  On the other hand, the green team is the Inter-School Union, which sounds fine.

YMMV?

(Disclaimer: I am not an experienced translator, just a fan.)

Oh, yeah, while I'm here...
not bad but logo needs some work
To be fair, that logo is from late '05/early '06 and I would do it differently if I ever restarted that hack.
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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #666 on: October 14, 2013, 07:32:20 pm »
No native speaker knows what Shin Megami Tensei means either
Yes, and that's also the series where they leave in all of the -sempai, -kun, -sensei, and whatnot. And where they've been leaving items randomly in Japanese (can you tell me what a "muchi" is?). Clearly that's the best place to take ideas from. Just because someone else has used a bad idea, doesn't mean you need to do so too.

And the whole point behind the names in the Kunio games is that there are meanings behind them. The fact that Riki attends "Flower Garden High" is supposed to be funny. But if you leave it "Hanazono" you don't get anything from it at all.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #667 on: October 14, 2013, 09:16:07 pm »
You do have a point.  I'd never thought about it before but I was rather struck by the image of the hero of Hot-Blooded High facing off against rivals from Cold Mountain Academy when I reminded myself what Reihou's meaning was earlier.
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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #668 on: October 14, 2013, 10:21:36 pm »
How about this title

Combat City Street Kings?

This could be a ringer due to what the Kunio games are mostly known for

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #669 on: October 15, 2013, 03:45:39 am »
Plus it's alliterative. You can never have too much alliteration.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #670 on: October 15, 2013, 10:08:01 am »
Plus it's alliterative. You can never have too much alliteration.
So is Hot-Blooded High. >_>

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #671 on: October 15, 2013, 12:58:57 pm »

Apologies to FlashPV, but I've thought about going a different direction with the title screen than his earlier design. :)
I don't think it looks bad, though I only had a few tiles left. I thought about using those to try to add a couple lightning bolts down the sides, but I wonder if I should leave it to this?
And I will probably center the (c)KEMCO                                                         1987. :P
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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #672 on: October 15, 2013, 01:17:05 pm »
It's a little hard to read. I feel this is due to the font on top being small and italic, and the font for "INDRA" bleeding together too much.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #673 on: October 15, 2013, 01:25:57 pm »
My plan was to put "The Light of" in white, but I hit palette issues (the trouble is having enough free tiles to extend a couple pixels up).
As to INDRA, maybe make the N a bit more distinct and widen the hole in the D, would that make it clearer?
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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #674 on: October 15, 2013, 03:54:21 pm »
Plus it's alliterative. You can never have too much alliteration.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #675 on: October 15, 2013, 06:55:50 pm »

Apologies to FlashPV, but I've thought about going a different direction with the title screen than his earlier design. :)
I don't think it looks bad, though I only had a few tiles left. I thought about using those to try to add a couple lightning bolts down the sides, but I wonder if I should leave it to this?
And I will probably center the (c)KEMCO                                                         1987. :P

I think the logo needs to be more flashy because it looks pretty bland

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #676 on: October 15, 2013, 10:35:27 pm »
My plan was to put "The Light of" in white, but I hit palette issues (the trouble is having enough free tiles to extend a couple pixels up).
As to INDRA, maybe make the N a bit more distinct and widen the hole in the D, would that make it clearer?
I think that might do it. Any chance you've got palette data you can mess with to make the colors blend in with one another a bit less, too?

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #677 on: October 16, 2013, 12:34:21 am »

I really did misread INDRA as IHORA. True story.

Maybe make the letters larger & use hard edged corners on the letters like the JP title.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #678 on: October 16, 2013, 12:58:30 am »
Easier said than done. The tile limitation for the title is pretty tight to say the least.

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Re: Titlescreens: Screenshots & Edits [Constructive Criticism Only]
« Reply #679 on: October 16, 2013, 09:13:47 am »
The general design is good, but it does look more like "INORA" than "INDRA" to me... and maybe it's just me being anal, but "The Light of" looks kind of generic/stretched/Atari-ish. Was it like that before?