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Title: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on April 28, 2020, 08:26:20 am
Fist I'd want to say that I love "rom hack" and this is the best page for this. Thanks to all the community for maintaining the page.  ::)

This mod is my own idea of "remake" of final fantasy 7, the graphics are not the most important thing but I do some demonstration, in the future there will be changes, I also have a friend who makes 3D backgrounds in high resolution, all the information in link, including the credits:

https://youtu.be/qCnGnAmn1-4

This game not compete with the ps4 version, it's only an alternative, I offer my work from 2012 to 2020 that could serve as an official remastered / remake for Square Enix (classic version), although this will be very difficult to happen.

If you want to support it you can do it in link information.

Ask anything you want, I'll try to answer it asap in youtube or here.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on April 28, 2020, 02:25:48 pm
This is awesome, 3 questions:

- Is this for the PSX or PC?
- Did you unlock Sephiroth's lines right before the final boss?
- Could this be combined with the retranslation/canon addendum/whatever script editing?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on April 28, 2020, 05:30:11 pm
- Pc (windows 7/10)
- Can you rephrase the question? I didn't understand it, groups battle?
- I'll try to add the translation in modern english, and yes, can be edit content  :laugh:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: romhackingaccount on April 28, 2020, 09:08:42 pm
Good stuff Cloudiar, love what you've done. I really like how you added in the deleted parts.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Bregalad on April 29, 2020, 04:56:30 am
Hello and welcome,
What does OVA stand for ? At first I just thought you remade the song "One Winged Anglel".

It's great you respect the original content, unlike Square-Enix themselves. So if I understood well the remake is almost finished and you're trying to get Square-Enix licence approval to release it ? That's a strange way to do things... but it'd certainly be of better quality than shitty remakes they pay TOSE to make... I suppose the quality of the work is not the same if it's an annoying job for which you have no interest but you're paid to do so, or if you're a fan and you do it just because you love the original with passion.

How are you going to avoid being cease & defect by Square-Enix ?

It's sad the boss music was affected in such a way, the instruments sounds good but the guitar is too loud and there's a bit of extra freedom I don't quite like. I'd rather have the music itself be 1:1 to the origina but with better instruments. Be careful of XG MIDIs circulating arround (riped from the PC version of the game), they contain errors and inacuracies to the original PS version.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on April 29, 2020, 08:47:25 am
I like how OVA sounds, also it makes reference (although not literal) to what happens when a manga becomes anime, or when the anime has a film. It's my remake, so it has my own point of view. 

The remake is in a very advanced state, even though that my content being approved is an utopia, is my obligation to offer it since a good part of the content is usefull for a revision (bugs fix, cutscenes, etc...)

My version's music is charged externally, it sounds exactly the same as the original. 

Thanks for all the comments.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on April 29, 2020, 07:35:09 pm
- Can you rephrase the question? I didn't understand it, groups battle?

One of the dummied scenes found by modders takes place during the black screen immediately before the One Winged Angel.

You win the group battle against Bizarro Sephiroth, screen goes dark, you hear the cry of the Planet [Dummied: and some threatening lines appear in the black screen saying "everything ends... everything will be reborn with me!" or something like that], the music starts playing and then the final battle opens.

I thought it was kinda creepy. I like creepy stuff.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on April 30, 2020, 09:31:23 am
Curious, I never heard that.

I will not forget your comment, if it really is unused content I plan to add it, thank you very much!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Jorpho on April 30, 2020, 01:22:19 pm
This game not compete with the ps4 version, it's only an alternative, I offer my work from 2012 to 2020 that could serve as an official remastered / remake for Square Enix (classic version), although this will be very difficult to happen.
You know people have been making all kinds of mods for FF7 for a long time, right?  Have you seen the Remako mod?
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-final-fantasy-7-remako-mod-is-the-best-way-to-play-the-original-game-on-pc/

This is not intended to diminish the significance of your work, but if Square didn't officially recognize any of that work, I don't think yours is likely to get different treatment. Just sayin'.

One of the dummied scenes found by modders takes place during the black screen immediately before the One Winged Angel.

You win the group battle against Bizarro Sephiroth, screen goes dark, you hear the cry of the Planet [Dummied: and some threatening lines appear in the black screen saying "everything ends... everything will be reborn with me!" or something like that], the music starts playing and then the final battle opens.
Is there a video of that somewhere?  It doesn't seem to be documented on TCRF.
https://tcrf.net/Final_Fantasy_VII/Unused_Text
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: SC on April 30, 2020, 03:37:23 pm
One of the dummied scenes found by modders takes place during the black screen immediately before the One Winged Angel.

You win the group battle against Bizarro Sephiroth, screen goes dark, you hear the cry of the Planet [Dummied: and some threatening lines appear in the black screen saying "everything ends... everything will be reborn with me!" or something like that], the music starts playing and then the final battle opens.

I thought it was kinda creepy. I like creepy stuff.

The dummy text is at file blackbge, but no idea if it was supposed to be used where you say, though, I never traced it.

Japanese original:

Quote
……終わった……

終わったんだ……
……なにもかも……

なにも……かも……
終わりをつげ……

そしてこの私から
すべてがはじまる!!


Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on April 30, 2020, 10:41:29 pm
I saw it here, at the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djtZZgcxslE
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on May 01, 2020, 08:32:58 pm
Jorpho I know that, maybe, I also have something to show :

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=17791.0

What do you think about this?  :laugh:

This website is awesome! thanks! Me and more people will investigate the unused texts.

Heaven Piercing Man this is annotated (very cool) and I plan to add it, thanks !!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Jorpho on May 02, 2020, 04:59:17 pm
Jorpho I know that, maybe, I also have something to show :

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=17791.0

What do you think about this?  :laugh:
Yes, it's nice, but isn't he a long way from being finished? Are you trying to suggest that this work has gotten official recognition from Square?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on May 04, 2020, 10:34:24 am
It's a huge project, so it takes a long time, sadly as excellent as it is, is not official.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Kallisto on May 04, 2020, 06:17:02 pm
The project is incredibly impressive; I would play through FF7 again just for this (since I just recently played through it not long ago).

Now about trying to make this official.

I will tell you that would be a very difficult thing to pull off; Konami has shown some form of a blessing with the Lecarde Chronicles because there was official stuff going on in the background (also LC being a fan game rather than some remake).

When it comes to Square Enix..well they got a major pride issue; there were tools available for FF8 to become much more better WHICH THEY COULD HAVE LEARNED FROM, but instead they wanted to half-ass their own project with the FF8 remaster.

They also somewhat half-assed FF9 Remaster.

They really don't care about their legacy unless there is a dollar sign in front of it now.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on May 09, 2020, 05:58:42 pm
It is true, really difficult, but I am offering this work, only with my "fix bug" they have for a good revision.

You are right, the remastrizations should be better, my remake is a giant fix bug, with many additions, cutscenes, others based on omega guide, others invented, with memory extensions (items, key items, matter), also with event extension, minigames, new matches ... long job, I hope to finish soon  ;)

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Morinis on May 09, 2020, 09:34:12 pm
Doing a remake while the remake is out.  Nice  :D

Looks better than what the original had  :beer:





...just watch out for those pointy bits  :P
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Spooniest on May 11, 2020, 08:09:58 am
I'd cut it out with this talk of "If you think it can be the official game, support it" business.

You are going to get a letter from SE's lawyers extremely fast.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on May 11, 2020, 09:00:02 am
Seriously, in the end more people buy the original to be able to play my remake, I don't think it's a tragedy.

If the game has a lot of support they will see money, then it is different.

If I say that he deserves support, it is for a very obvious reason, without detracting from the original game, but he surpasses it in most things, also being faithful to his style.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: acediez on May 11, 2020, 11:26:54 am
The battle models textured with the official art is a great idea. Are you able to add some animation to these textures? They would look a lot more natural if you could have them blink every so often. You could also consider toning down Tifa and Yuffie's smiles a bit, and give them a more serious/neutral expression in battle, like their original battle models. The permanent smile (and no blinking) make her unintentionally vicious (think the Villager in Smash Bros).

Your battle models and custom events are very unique. However, general script rewrites and graphic improvements would be competing against already popular mods included in Reunion, and Remako. You should probably consider having your models and other custom content available through existing community efforts like Reunion or 7th Heaven, so they can reach more people.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Spooniest on May 11, 2020, 08:22:35 pm
Seriously, in the end more people buy the original to be able to play my remake, I don't think it's a tragedy.

If the game has a lot of support they will see money, then it is different.

If I say that he deserves support, it is for a very obvious reason, without detracting from the original game, but he surpasses it in most things, also being faithful to his style.

The point is you are using the word "support". If SE gets one whif that you are taking monetary donations for the production of this, then that's the big ol' axe to the head for it. I'm just giving you fair warning.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Naldrag on May 12, 2020, 04:19:46 am
Hmm... this looks interesting, but yea I have to agree that you shouldn't be asking for donations, especially if you're including other people's mods as apart of it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on May 12, 2020, 11:16:32 am
I think you are wrong, the donations are for the time I invest in the game, not for the graphics of the game.

I'm not selling the game, the video is just a demonstration, which isn't the most interesting thing.  With your logic, the people who make graphics and accept donations have to give that money to Square Enix, or they should have to give them the content they made. How many people have done that?  I have a friend who does 3D backgrounds based on the original, he should retire too?

My game is not about the graphics, is about the content, the game is going to have the same gameplay hours with or without the graphics. I don't care about the graphics.

No one can sue me for that, not Square Enix, not no one, if you wanna go for me then you should go for everyone else. Everyone who accepts donations is being paid for that work, but if you wanna keep going go ahead.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: ifightdragons on May 12, 2020, 11:39:16 am
Cloudiar: You are requesting payment for working on an IP you do not own. And it's not even clear what you are trying to do with it.

Furthermore, you seem to be thinking that Square Enix might officially sanction or publish your hack. Do you understand how ludicrous and unlikely that is?

To top it off you don't seem to be able to take constructive criticism without blowing everyone off.

As a sidenote, why the name OVA? What does it mean or signify?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on May 12, 2020, 03:45:20 pm
You can say it, but I could be asking for donations everywhere since 2012 and I didn't, there are also people who accept donations for musical remasters that are also copyrighted, I've even met people who directly sell graphics for the game for money, And the latter if you want to profit.

If I wanted to enrich myself as I told you I would upload many videos from 8 years ago showing what I do and then "yes" they would pay me for my time, but I did not plan to do it, if I accept donations now it is because they have told me many times to do it, it is It is normal for people to want me to invest more time to finish that.

What you have told me does not sound good, even more so when you probably do not know that the material of my demo was stolen and published by someone on my behalf, and more things have been stolen from me, but now according to you it seems that I am the one who stole.

Accept or not donations, if Square Enix wants to sue me, he will still offer them the project, I understand that you want to help me, but you also understand that it has bothered me, I am not a thief, and as I said to accept donations or it will not be the same result.

I like how OVA sounds, also it makes reference (although not literal) to what happens when a manga becomes anime, or when the anime has a film.

It's my remake, so it has my own point of view.

May 12, 2020, 03:56:19 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
The battle models textured with the official art is a great idea. Are you able to add some animation to these textures? They would look a lot more natural if you could have them blink every so often. You could also consider toning down Tifa and Yuffie's smiles a bit, and give them a more serious/neutral expression in battle, like their original battle models. The permanent smile (and no blinking) make her unintentionally vicious (think the Villager in Smash Bros).

Your battle models and custom events are very unique. However, general script rewrites and graphic improvements would be competing against already popular mods included in Reunion, and Remako. You should probably consider having your models and other custom content available through existing community efforts like Reunion or 7th Heaven, so they can reach more people.

The battle graphics are from ninostyle and are for demonstration, I don't know if that can change
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Bregalad on May 12, 2020, 05:16:15 pm
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No one can sue me for that, not Square Enix, not no one, if you wanna go for me then you should go for everyone else.
Of course they can. What make you think they can't ?!

Quote
I have a friend who does 3D backgrounds based on the original, he should retire too?
About 10-years ago the fan 3D remake of Chrono Trigger was taken down by Square-Enix, and they weren't even accepting donations.

Oh it was actually 16 years ago and there's even a WP article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Resurrection). Basically it was taken down because of the DS re-release was coming I guess, and it would have been ridiculous if the fan game was better than the official remake...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: acediez on May 12, 2020, 05:31:04 pm
The battle graphics are from ninostyle and are for demonstration

Well, that's very hard to tell by the way you're presenting your project. I realize now there's a list of names at the bottom of your video description, but your videos showcases graphic enhancements as a feature of your own project. You should at least give an explicit mention of each specific project in the video itself, and proper links to each mod's own project threads next to each name in the description.

Be more specific about what's new, made by you. Otherwise, it looks like you're taking credit (and donations) for what first and foremost is a bundle of mods by other people, even if that's not your intention. Your own work gets lost in the muddled message.

My suggestion would be to offer your new content standalone and let people mix and match it with what's available in qhimm.com to their liking, and leave pretensions like "I offer my work to Square Enix" and "support it to make it a reality" aside. That never sits well.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on May 12, 2020, 07:41:09 pm
If I were you, I'd advertise it as just an upcoming mod pack like New Threat or something like that, draws less "compromising" attention.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Spooniest on May 12, 2020, 07:41:35 pm
I think you are wrong, the donations are for the time I invest in the game, not for the graphics of the game.

Learn the hard way, then. Don't say you weren't warned.

You're going to be contacted by SE's lawyers, whereupon they will most certainly issue you what is known as a "Cease and Desist" order. They won't sue you unless you willfully defy it.

Trying to make any kind of money off of toying with someone else's Intellectual Property is a clear violation of Copyright Law. The only thing that protects a romhacker is a strict not-for-profit policy. And I mean strict.

But something tells me you aren't going to listen and you simply think "it won't happen to me." Good luck, then. I'm sad to see all your hard work go to waste, but once again...

... Don't say you weren't warned.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Bregalad on May 13, 2020, 06:12:15 am
Also the OVA Remake Soundtrack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-HvR3WtyM4) seems to be a collection of various remixes stolen from here and there, some containing errors directly from the XG MIDIs that were just played back without being even corrected, some others being just techno remixes who sounds nothing like the originals.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII OVA Remake
Post by: Cloudiar on August 10, 2020, 08:53:36 am
1.Donations were eliminated long ago, and I have not received anything for this, but I insist ... it would have been legal.

2.Bregalad you are simply envious, all the alternative sound of FF7 has music from others (where were you at that time, cowboy?), Also they do not credit correctly, I gave access to all those responsible.

Closed topic, you only look at what interests you, but in the end 99.9% of the time in the project is mine, and you only know how to complain, I hope that if I finish it you will be logical and do not play it.