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Title: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: sil3nt_j on July 17, 2019, 04:05:11 pm
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I'm out people. Thanks to those who enjoyed the sprites and hacks. It's been fun. Stay in touch.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on July 17, 2019, 06:50:33 pm
Someone tell the AVGN we might be close to finally have "Street Fighter: The Good Edition"
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Vanya on July 18, 2019, 04:03:59 am
Those are fantastic!!
Having an Alpha version of street fighter 1 has been a pipe dream of mine for years.
I know there are some MUGEN projects that remake SF1, but they use the original graphics.
Damn! I wish I know how to use MUGEN right now.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: gadesx on July 18, 2019, 06:04:20 am
There is a Street Fighter One using Mugen, with these sprites can change a lot.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: seraph on July 18, 2019, 02:34:35 pm
Amazing. I always wanted to play upgraded version of SF1.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Rodimus Primal on July 18, 2019, 03:24:14 pm
Quote from: Vanya on July 18, 2019, 04:03:59 am
Those are fantastic!!
Having an Alpha version of street fighter 1 has been a pipe dream of mine for years.
I know there are some MUGEN projects that remake SF1, but they use the original graphics.
Damn! I wish I know how to use MUGEN right now.

Maybe an update to that MUGEN project with the Alpha sprites as alternate costumes would be pretty cool to do.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Vanya on July 19, 2019, 12:50:30 am
I guess that begs the question if MUGEN games can be edited or if you need the project files.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on July 19, 2019, 01:23:36 am
I dunno, MUGEN fangames look tacky.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: # on July 19, 2019, 02:35:39 pm
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Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: crazyrexz on July 20, 2019, 07:59:35 pm
i love the new style, this wll be good for new remake sf 1, along with updated movelist, stage layout, and add super combos at least one or two, then it will be hit !
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: sil3nt_j on July 23, 2019, 06:22:34 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on July 23, 2019, 06:36:58 pm
Damn me for being a "kinda" purist, but I think SF1 The Good Edition shouldn't have supers... yet I know if Capcom EVER did a SF1 remake, they would add supers.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: sil3nt_j on July 24, 2019, 09:45:27 pm
Honestly, I don't think it really matters if they have supers or not. I would be okay with either. I think if they don't have them though, that their specials should do more damage or they could have V-ism mode or something.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Vanya on July 26, 2019, 08:48:30 am
On the subject of supers, they should be optional.
On the subject of new moves...

Lee should take some queues from Yun and Yang since they are his vrandkids or something.

Mike should definitely be similar to Balrog/Boxer.

And Retsu shouldn't have any specials as per his lore.

What I would do with Retsu is expand his command attacks so that be has a different normal for every direction you can press.
Every button on the ground and while crouching would have a different move for forward, neutral, and back.
Every button in the air would have a different move for up, neutral, down.
Of course some would be semi-specials like Dhalsim's drill moves or Ryu's overhead punch.
Hell come to think of it if you really want him to have command moves they could be like Ken's special kick moves in Super Turbo.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on July 26, 2019, 10:44:08 am
Retsu would be perfect for a V-ISM
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: sil3nt_j on July 26, 2019, 11:26:44 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: Vanya on July 31, 2019, 12:28:55 pm
Those mocks look great!!

I'm not suggesting that the characters take moves from other characters directly, but moreso that they suggest a relation to those other characters and maybe show a sort of progression in fighting style.

Consider that some of these characters already have established lore and maybe take that into consideration.

As for Retsu having every command normal possible, its a combination of his lore and tge idea that it hasn't ever really been done to that extreme before so he would be very unique especially if you give him a v-ism/custom combo type of super.
Hell, that would make him even more unique for being the only character with a super, but no specials.
It would be kinda like how Sean doesn't have a normal hadouken, but he does have a super one.
That basically all my thoughts on the whole thing with Retsu.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: sil3nt_j on July 31, 2019, 06:49:41 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: ultimaweapon on August 05, 2019, 12:33:21 pm
Those do look great. As far as styles, this is what i think.

Mike - A balance between Balrog and Dudley styles

Lee - Goro Daimon would be a good style for him

Retsu - Similar to Lei Fei from Virtua Fighter 4 or Takuma from King Of Fighters

Geki - Similar to Kage from Virtua Fighter 4 or Hanzo from World Heroes 2 Perfect

Joe - A balance between Ralph and Clark from King Of Fighters
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: sil3nt_j on August 05, 2019, 06:42:52 pm
Quote from: ultimaweapon on August 05, 2019, 12:33:21 pm
Those do look great. As far as styles, this is what i think.

Mike - A balance between Balrog and Dudley styles

Lee - Goro Daimon would be a good style for him

Retsu - Similar to Lei Fei from Virtua Fighter 4 or Takuma from King Of Fighters

Geki - Similar to Kage from Virtua Fighter 4 or Hanzo from World Heroes 2 Perfect

Joe - A balance between Ralph and Clark from King Of Fighters

Nice, here's what I was thinking:

Mike - A cross between Balrog and Yamazaki. Yamazaki's serpent slashes with Balrog's dashing punches and a move like Cody's where he can lean out of the way. A more toe to toe version of Balrog.
Lee - A crazy drunk character who likes to jump and roll around. He has a dashing punch like Terry Bogard and a flying kick like Kim Dragon from World Heroe's. He can also do a rolling punch as a counter move and a move like the one Gambit has where he can bounce off walls.
Retsu - A counter based character with no projectiles or shotokan type moves. He has defensive counters for strikes and a rush punch like Gouken's to counter projectiles. He should NOT have any fire balls or hurricane kicks or dragon punches. We have too many of those already.
Geki - Strider's punches and Guy's kicks. He can also teleport and throw stars, sort of like Rolento's stinger move and he has a grapple move and a move where he can rush forward and do a jumping kick.
Joe - Sort of like Dee Jay but with no projectile.

But I want to try and make them their own character. I really don't want Retsu to be another shotokan or Lee to be a head swap of Gen and/or Yun/Yang.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, Joe, Mike and Ryu from SF1 sprite sheets... Alpha style!
Post by: sil3nt_j on October 20, 2020, 10:00:11 pm
 :cookie:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on October 23, 2020, 12:43:19 am
That's lookin' great! I need to learn how to use MUGEN so I can use to make my dream remake of SF1.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on October 23, 2020, 01:22:57 pm
Thanks Vanya.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Red Soul on October 23, 2020, 02:17:24 pm
This looks incredible.
On the topic of dream Mugen stuff, I'd like to see the roster of Alpha 3 Upper and some Street Fighter 3 characters added in the Alpha art style (Alex, Makoto, Dudley, Yang, Yun and Ibuki).
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on October 23, 2020, 08:15:07 pm
Lol well thanks man.

Yeah, my ultimate goal is to see SF1 finally remade. But if we can't have that just yet, maybe SFA3 with a few extra characters would be good. I mentioned the idea of a SF1 remake a while back and some loved it, and some said exactly what you did about just adding them to the Alpha 3 roster. Honestly, as long as they can give them a good stage (preferably an update to their SF1 stages) I'd be okay with that.

I know Yun was in Capcom vs SNK and one of the SFA3 games so he and Yang would be easy to add. And then we had Eagle in one of those games. So we could theoretically have Yun, Yang, Eagle, Lee, and Joe now. Also, there's Maki.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on October 23, 2020, 10:39:18 pm
Eagle was Capcom vs SNK.
Really nice sprites, but like Ryu, Ken, and Bison, they were in a slightly different style. Similar to Alpha but more stiff/"mature" if that makes any sense.

There are already a couple of SF1 remakes for MUGEN, but they stick to the original graphics mostly.
My favorite one so far is the one that has Cody as secret character that can only be accessed via random select. An updated version of that with new graphics would be good enough to satisfy me since it has all the bells and whistles already.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on October 23, 2020, 11:09:55 pm
I know Eagle debuted in Capcom vs SNK 2, but I remember very distinctively that he was also in a version of Street Fighter Alpha 3. I don't think they redrew him, they just cut and pasted him from Capcom vs SNK. Not sure what people thought about him and Maki being in that game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itltcV3kQWY
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Red Soul on October 24, 2020, 03:50:24 am
He is, along with Maki, in the PSP port of Alpha 3 (Max or Double Upper, depending on region).
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on October 25, 2020, 08:00:28 am
Same sprites? Not scaled down or anything, I don't recall?
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on October 25, 2020, 05:47:56 pm
I think so. People were saying they were over sized and I could see Maki and Yun being too big for the game. Idk, maybe Maki is big like Hulk Hogan's daughter Brooke? Also I remember seeing a little bit of debate over Eagle and whether or not he was too big for the game. He was the same size as Ryu in SF1, but people were saying, maybe he's just tall? He's still shorter than Sagat, so maybe Eagle was around 6'8"?  Seems like of the CVS characters copied and pasted, he was the most believable.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Red Soul on October 25, 2020, 05:49:38 pm
Quote from: Vanya on October 25, 2020, 08:00:28 am
Same sprites? Not scaled down or anything, I don't recall?

I think they may be slightly scaled (ported from CvS2 in Eagle's case) but I don't remember either.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on October 28, 2020, 07:28:53 pm
Hehe, and Mike is 100% FINISHED! Fuck yeah.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on November 17, 2020, 06:59:53 pm
 :cookie:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on November 20, 2020, 12:47:34 am
Nice! He's coming along really well.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on November 20, 2020, 10:55:20 pm
Ha well thanks man. Btw, if anyone has suggestions, wouldn't mind hearing them.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on November 21, 2020, 06:47:56 pm
My only suggestion is to always make sure if you reuse any effects or graphics from other games that you treat them as a base and heavily edit them until they are mostly if not totally unrecognizable.
However, you're already doing that pretty damn well. :D
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on November 21, 2020, 11:12:02 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on November 23, 2020, 12:25:28 am
Good choice! I think that will make for an interesting animation.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: foiopaulo on November 23, 2020, 09:11:01 am
This is coming along beautifully! Keep it up, dude!  :woot!: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on November 25, 2020, 09:53:32 pm
Well thanks dudes. Some more progress on Geki. Next step is to finish the shoes, then edit the shirt and add the net thing under his shirt, and then edit the belt. Hopefully he won't ta,ke much longer.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 03, 2020, 08:04:19 pm
 :cookie:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on December 04, 2020, 06:05:36 am
Coming along great as usual!

Here's my critique:

Tripped/Falling animation - In the initial frame his right leg is up higher than his left leg is, but in the next frame his right leg is positioned lower and then is higher again in the 3rd frame. This might make for a jarring/silly look with his leg flicking up and down.
Suggestion: either lower the right leg in the first frame, or raise it in the second frame for a more consistent animation.

Smoke Bomb - The effect seems like its way too big is all.

Everything else is pretty much great.
In particular I have to call out the command for the vertical shuriken throw. I really like this combination of command and special move. It's pretty unique and I think it would make him feel very interesting to play as.

In the original game Geki also has triple shuriken moves. If you want to keep those moves more traditional they could have the same commands as the normal moves, but instead you have to press all 3 buttons and they should probably use medium speed.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 04, 2020, 02:26:48 pm
Ok, I will have to test that tripping animation to see what I can do. I just have to see it moving.

Yeah, I didn't like how big the smoke bomb animation was either, but haven't found any other smoke sprites I could use. I was wanting to use Ibuki's, but couldn't find a sprite sheet of her. I also saw that Demitri has a fire animation that could be recolored.

Were the triple shurikens that Geki had in the original game just downward, or did he throw them horizontally too?
December 04, 2020, 04:55:39 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
I just looked at the getting knocked down animation, and I think I may just leave out the 2nd frame. Funny thing is, I added the first frame at the last minute for nostalgia, because that was from his first sprite sheet, just recolored.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on December 05, 2020, 03:25:33 am
The triple shuriken is both for the vertical version and the horizontal version.
I'm pretty sure that the horizontal one is 3 shuriken thrown one after the other.
Not sure how the vertical one is, let me check some play-throughs...
...OK! The vertical triple shuriken throws 3 in a very narrow spread from the middle angle.
Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 06, 2020, 11:10:10 am
Trying to figure out how to do the Shuriken throw move. For the jumping version, I was going to have it be thrown at different angles, depending on the button pressed, and maybe for the super have him throw 3. For the ground version, I was going to do the same thing.

OR

He could just throw 3 of them for both the jumping and ground versions. Then, depending on the strength of the button, he could throw either 1 set of 3 (Light Version), 2 sets of 3 (Middle Version), or 3 sets of 3 (Heavy Version).

Idk.
December 06, 2020, 11:11:18 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
And yeah, throwing them one right after the other could work too.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on December 06, 2020, 06:04:23 pm
This is what I'm imagining would be his shuriken moves.

Shuriken Throw Ground:(B),F+P [LP fast, HP very fast]

Multi Shuriken Throw Ground: (B),F+PPP [3 consecutive shuriken, MP speed]

Shuriken Throw Air: (D),U+P [LP high angle, MP angle 45, HP low angle, all MP speed]

Multi Shuriken Throw Air: (D),U+PPP [Narrow spread of 3 shuriken, MP angle 45, MP speed]

Shuriken Barrage Ground: (B),F,B,F+PPP [3 consecutive narrow spreads of 3 shuriken each, 9 total, HP speed]

Shuriken Barrage Air: (DB),DF,DB,UF+PPP [3 Consecutive narrow spreads of 3 shuriken each, 9 total, MP angle, HP speed]

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: shakunetsu on December 08, 2020, 03:04:22 am
It's nice to see your works again man

I have seen your previous work

I hope to see your Haggar again it closes to alpha style than the others

Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 08, 2020, 07:52:36 pm
Thanks Shakanetsu.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: shakunetsu on December 09, 2020, 06:22:35 pm
Looks great that teleport does work it feels alpha like
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 09, 2020, 07:13:27 pm
 :cookie:
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: Vanya on December 09, 2020, 07:34:25 pm
Love the new smoke graphics!
I did notice a tiny bit of inconsistency in the animation when he reaches for and throws down the kemuri dama.
It's the edges of his gi that are a bit out of wack.
After the first frame, the left side of his gi is drawn overlapping the right and I think it's supposed to be the other way in order to be consistent with the rest of his animations throughout the sheet.
Actually now that I had a quick glance, there are a couple of spots where his gi swaps overlaps.

Great work on this, tho! I;m drooling for that SFA style remake of SF1 now.

Once this dream comes true, I might seriously consider working on another idea I had for prequel to SF. ;)
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 10, 2020, 08:00:44 pm
Woo! Finally got all of the original sprites finished. All that's left are the crouching and jumping heavy punches, and the throw, and he is 100%. Tried to fix the gi as well, so that there is consistency:

(see below)

Idk if I will have time to make Retsu, but I would like to finish him. Just in case I'm not able to for some reason though, there was a gentleman named Lassard that actually made him. Even though I don't agree with all of the choices for the specials, I will say he looks very well done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN9boYjfKlI
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: shakunetsu on December 11, 2020, 06:27:16 pm
I like his wall climb do you intent him to have something similar to Strider Hiryu's wall climb n MVC2?

(https://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/4019431/strider-tall.jpg)
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 11, 2020, 07:05:21 pm
Mmm probably not. I just meant for it to be a way for him to bounce off the sides of the screen like Chun Li / Vega.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: shakunetsu on December 12, 2020, 04:43:58 am
That's nice adding Jill throw it looks fit to him
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 15, 2020, 10:28:35 pm
 :cookie:
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: shakunetsu on December 16, 2020, 01:52:25 am
Hi man @Silent_j I was hype with desk video about mvc2 super clashes so I rewatch evo fireball presentation.

I rememberes thag hsien ko is using a shuriken projectile.

You might be interested to it that it fits also the alpha style.

https://www.spriters-resource.com/arcade/supergemfighterminimix/sheet/38328/

(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/36/38328.png?updated=1460957405)
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 16, 2020, 07:35:28 pm
Hmm... I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: shakunetsu on December 17, 2020, 02:58:34 am
Your Joe really looks good whatever pallette you throw in
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 17, 2020, 11:00:08 pm
Glad you liked. I finally finished the crouching heavy punch I was talking about.
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: shakunetsu on December 18, 2020, 05:00:34 am
You might want to add some unique style of mechanic to Geki.

Like in Dragoons Might

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6-TODVCYY4

Where the characters can flip in air or hang in air.

Since he had a knife

He can also like have those mechanic by using the knife to the ceiling just like Strider hanging in the ceiling

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVHtkiCU0AE8jVF.jpg)

Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 18, 2020, 09:02:52 am
Never heard of that game. Hmmmm so Suiko is a Retsu rip off? Lol never knew that. Idk if I will add anything like that to him because I was trying really hard to make him different from Strider / Guy / Ibuki.

That Layla level is pretty cool though. Has it been made for Mugen?
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: shakunetsu on December 18, 2020, 04:34:05 pm
It's a obscure game.

It's up to you man, your Geki is already cool.

It's on cenobite website

http://cenobite53.mugengermany.com/stages_arcade.html#dm
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: Vanya on December 19, 2020, 08:31:51 am
Quote from: sil3nt_j on December 18, 2020, 09:02:52 am
Never heard of that game. Hmmmm so Suiko is a Retsu rip off? Lol never knew that. Idk if I will add anything like that to him because I was trying really hard to make him different from Strider / Guy / Ibuki.

I think Geki is pretty unique in fighting style to begin with compared to most other characters and definitely when compared to Strider/Guy/Ibuki+Vega, and you did a great job of preserving and enhancing that.
Title: Re: Retsu, Geki, Lee, and Joe, and Mike (Alpha Style)
Post by: shakunetsu on December 19, 2020, 10:15:11 am
Quote from: sil3nt_j on December 15, 2020, 10:28:35 pm
Added the rest of the frames for Geki's throw today. This was all I really wanted to add to him (the Wolverine sprites). Also, I edited Mike's jumping mediums:

(https://i.ibb.co/Kjg4JQM/geki-final-sprites-1.png)

Would you like to swap the knife for a Kunai?

(https://i.imgur.com/Flx48pQ.png)


Or you might be interested with other effects like smoke special and slash with Pocket Ibuki attack and etc




(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibuki-rolent.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibuki-froggy.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibukiw6.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibukiw9.gif)


Can be used as additional slash effect for normal

(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/wolv-c1.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char2/anims/marrow-medium.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char2/anims/marrow-combograb.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/kenji-w-cmid.gif)
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/kenji-w-attack2.gif)


Can be used for intro or an effect for an attack
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/m-silver.gif)

Ibuki moves that are not used in any Street Fighter titles and only remains to stay in Pocket fighters



(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibuki-gem-super2.gif)





(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/ibuki-gem-mat.gif)
Title: Re: Geki, Retsu, Lee, Joe and Mike.....100% at last!
Post by: sil3nt_j on December 19, 2020, 03:57:27 pm
Interesting ideas. I was thinking of giving him the Wolverine sprite you mentioned... maybe I still will. Swapping the knife for a dagger might work too. I liked the Ibuki smoke effects and wanted to use them, but I couldn't find sprite rips of them any where. The specials and supers you mentioned for her are good too, I just don't have the sprites. The intro for the Silver Samurai would be cool too.
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Post by: shakunetsu on December 19, 2020, 10:47:08 pm
Thanks you very much man. I really like how the way you convert them to alpha like sprites.

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Post by: sil3nt_j on December 21, 2020, 10:13:28 pm
Well thanks dude.
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Post by: Vanya on December 23, 2020, 09:28:58 am
Good stuff! :D
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Post by: shakunetsu on December 23, 2020, 10:20:31 am
The Mae-Geri sprite kinda need a bit of fix and those that reused that sprite. IMHO

As for a special

https://youtu.be/fe_fA5z85dU

Would you like Takuma super that is a counter and do a chop to the opponent.
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Post by: sil3nt_j on December 23, 2020, 06:19:18 pm
 ;D
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Post by: shakunetsu on December 24, 2020, 01:20:31 am
Nice choices of new air normal.

Thanks for adding that crouching attack

 Geki is getting better and better.

About Retsu and Takuma


(https://j.gifs.com/p8J966.gif)


I was pointing out this move in the video because it's still not overused to other characters

You might be also interested using akira yuki as a reference for some attacks for retsu.

AKIRA sprites

Spoiler:
(https://i.imgur.com/mxwE2fY.png)

(https://i.cubeupload.com/QKKvfB.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ac6adoE.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEm6J9UVLRE




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkeHil6ixEU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjc7hF5tDH8




(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/nf7/char/akira-vf2-knee-animation.gif)

(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/nf7/char/akira-vf5-strike-goh.gif)
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Post by: sil3nt_j on December 30, 2020, 07:46:30 pm
Nice  ;D
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Post by: shakunetsu on December 30, 2020, 11:03:00 pm
Thanks. i don't play too much VF in its later games but I really like his anime back in the day.


Great that wolverine normal looks okay with him
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if you want more variation of the smoke maybe you can used some here

https://www.spriters-resource.com/fullview/55326/
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 08, 2021, 09:37:02 pm
Edited the standing punches and made the Ichi Ni San animation.
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Post by: Vanya on January 10, 2021, 12:44:03 am
That sounds pretty good to me. I think think it fits Retsu quite well.
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Post by: shakunetsu on January 11, 2021, 12:35:51 pm
Quote from: sil3nt_j on January 08, 2021, 09:37:02 pm
Edited the standing punches and made the Ichi Ni San animation. I was thinking, maybe instead of having the Ichi Ni San be like the Shin Sho Ryu Ken, it can be a 3 hit combo like Iori's Maiden Masher or Fei Long's Rekaken move:



Sounds great early SF had few rekka like character.
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 13, 2021, 07:17:08 pm
Thanks.
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Post by: shakunetsu on January 16, 2021, 04:21:33 am
Interesting updates
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 17, 2021, 06:07:39 pm
 :cookie:
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Post by: shakunetsu on January 19, 2021, 04:48:12 am
That great seeing that move with retsu
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 20, 2021, 06:53:36 pm
Glad you liked
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Post by: Vanya on January 22, 2021, 05:04:35 pm
Nice! That's the kind of stuff that feels right for Retsu.
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 22, 2021, 06:03:09 pm
Well thanks man  :cookie:
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Post by: shakunetsu on January 23, 2021, 02:36:46 pm
Looks great man  :thumbsup: keep up the good work.

I really like the counters
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 24, 2021, 01:54:46 pm
Well thanks dude  :beer:
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Post by: Vanya on January 25, 2021, 07:29:14 pm
Nice! Retsu keeps looking more and more interesting to play as!
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Post by: sil3nt_j on January 25, 2021, 08:08:01 pm
Ha, thanks, glad you think so.
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Post by: shakunetsu on January 30, 2021, 06:41:43 am
Wow thanks man for adding that super. It looks great
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Post by: sil3nt_j on February 01, 2021, 07:08:08 pm
No problem.
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Post by: shakunetsu on February 06, 2021, 07:29:42 am
I think the eyes needs to be a bit slightly bigger on portrait. iMHo
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Post by: sil3nt_j on February 07, 2021, 12:28:16 pm
I was jus trying to make him look more like his SF1 portrait.
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Post by: shakunetsu on February 07, 2021, 04:16:25 pm
Looks great I like his counter utilizing his feet. Than the usually everyone is using the fist
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Post by: sil3nt_j on February 12, 2021, 02:36:16 pm
 I really only have 4 more movements to go for all of the characters, then I think I'm going to call it quits for a while
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Post by: shakunetsu on February 13, 2021, 03:03:33 am
Congrats man.

Hope you'll do more classic sometim if you comeback
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Post by: sil3nt_j on February 18, 2021, 05:52:33 pm
Maybe. I hope I can finish this next week.
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Post by: sil3nt_j on April 29, 2021, 11:49:04 pm
Alright people, I'm out. Just saw that someone had one of my topics deleted and I thought I escaped from that after I left Mugen Guild. But if that's how it's going to be here, then I'm gone. To the person who had it deleted, if that makes you feel better, glad I was able to give that to you. But I have enough problems already in real life and don't need any more drama, especially petty, online, Big-Bang-Theory-type drama.

Thanks to those who appreciated the sprite work though. If you haven't seen my deviantart account already, feel free to follow me / comment on there:

https://www.deviantart.com/sil3ntj/gallery
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Post by: slidelljohn on April 30, 2021, 01:54:36 am
Sorry to here that happened. Hopefully someone will shed some light on why that happened because this is a really good site and there normally isn’t any major issues. I look at your sprite work from time to time and it’s really good. I saved the link to your gallery so I can follow your work just in case. I hope you stay but if you don’t I definitely understand.
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Post by: sil3nt_j on May 01, 2021, 10:46:13 am
Well thanks dude I appreciate it. Hope some of the people here stay in touch.
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Post by: shakunetsu on May 18, 2021, 03:25:17 pm
no worries man will be still following your project