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Title: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Chronosplit on June 14, 2019, 11:53:21 am
https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2019/2019/06/12/square-enix-committed-to-making-its-complete-library-available-digitally

They're going to be working on making every game in their library available, and down the line, and it looks like they're eventually going into their own store platform (I hope they don't do streaming exclusive things, yuck).

I guess this means Trials of Mana isn't the first we'll see of newly official translated SNES games.  Hopefully they release the others like Mana Collection.  :o
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Jorpho on June 14, 2019, 11:49:53 pm
Somehow I doubt that this development is what will finally bring us Square's Tom Sawyer (NES).  No one seems to want to touch that one.

And I kind of doubt we're finally going to see Treasure Conflix, Dynami Tracer, or Love is Balance, either.

Would they try to license Demi's translation of Radical Dreamers?  Translating it from scratch would be costly.

Maybe Mahojin Guru Guru and its sequel?  Technically Enix games, though.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Jeville on June 15, 2019, 02:04:39 am
Rad Racer. :D
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Chronosplit on June 15, 2019, 02:27:05 am
Somehow I doubt that this development is what will finally bring us Square's Tom Sawyer (NES).  No one seems to want to touch that one.

And I kind of doubt we're finally going to see Treasure Conflix, Dynami Tracer, or Love is Balance, either.

Would they try to license Demi's translation of Radical Dreamers?  Translating it from scratch would be costly.

Maybe Mahojin Guru Guru and its sequel?  Technically Enix games, though.
Yeah that's the thing.  When they say "every game" I'm pretty sure they're omitting a lot and are mostly talking about the major titles.  People are talking big on preservation, but the spokesperson even went only as far back as NES.  I'd love to even see fan translations licensed as well!  Who knows what will happen on that front?

I'm pretty sure Enix games are on the table too though.  If nothing else, I expect an official NTSC Terranigma.  And probably a version of the Dragon Quest series, either in ROM form or ports from mobile (hey, IV-VI were actually good).
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Post by: Dzumeister on June 15, 2019, 03:40:17 am
a Terranigma remake would be amazing
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Post by: 8.bit.fan on June 15, 2019, 03:57:43 am
Does that mean we'll finally get the original SFC version of Final Fantasy V translated??  :o

I'd love an NES FF Trilogy(1-3) and an SNES FF Trilogy(4-6) Collections!! :D
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Post by: Spooniest on June 15, 2019, 11:02:19 am
Rad Racer. :D

You're goofy. I like you :)
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Jorpho on June 15, 2019, 06:08:30 pm
I guess Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, and Granstream Saga are all technically Enix games, aren't they?  I would have expected them to do something with them already if they had all the rights.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: tc on June 15, 2019, 08:43:09 pm
Not sure. It appears to be unknown who now owns Quintet or their assets.

Anyhow the Square-Enix library is downright MASSIVE. They absorbed Eidos and Taito, and by extension likely a substantial portion of their back catalogs. (from companies like U.S. Gold, Crystal Dynamics...)
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: lexluthermiester on June 16, 2019, 02:38:58 am
Not sure. It appears to be unknown who now owns Quintet or their assets.

Anyhow the Square-Enix library is downright MASSIVE. They absorbed Eidos and Taito, and by extension likely a substantial portion of their back catalogs. (from companies like U.S. Gold, Crystal Dynamics...)
Actually that is known. Quintet games released through Enix are still under release rights with SquareEnix. The problem with that line of games is that they were not as popular outside Japan, even though they have a strong following. For example Soulblazer, IOG, Terranigma and Robotrek are still in my list of favorite SNES games. Would love to see a collection of Quintet games for the Switch, much like the Mana Collection!
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: KingMike on June 16, 2019, 09:52:25 pm
I suppose Tactics Ogre SNES could be likely if they are going through with SD3.
Whether to translate it or to buy out Atlus' translation.

However much Enix actually got done on DQ5 in the '90s is probably irrelevant at this point.

I think byuu has been asking for them to take his Bahamut Lagoon hacking work and use it to make an official translation.

They could easily release FF2, all they need to do is polish up the 1991 prototype. Like, fix the bad English but keep it otherwise intact.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: tc on June 17, 2019, 05:49:07 am
Actually that is known. Quintet games released through Enix are still under release rights with SquareEnix. The problem with that line of games is that they were not as popular outside Japan, even though they have a strong following. For example Soulblazer, IOG, Terranigma and Robotrek are still in my list of favorite SNES games. Would love to see a collection of Quintet games for the Switch, much like the Mana Collaction!

I guess so. I'm not familiar with insolvency and dissolution of Japanese companies.
The games list Quintet alongside Enix in their copyright info.
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Post by: Badseed on June 19, 2019, 09:38:06 am
I say go all the way back to the beginning and release "The Death Trap" part one and two. A good text adventure would be an interesting concept; not sure how it would do on consoles, but and Android version would be pretty cool (and would work).
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Chronosplit on June 20, 2019, 09:48:09 pm
I say go all the way back to the beginning and release "The Death Trap" part one and two. A good text adventure would be an interesting concept; not sure how it would do on consoles, but and Android version would be pretty cool (and would work).
I would like to see that.  Text adventures and gamebooks have a quiet little resurgence in mobile, mostly because the form factor works so darn well (especially with a larger tablet that you use to read ebooks).
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Heaven Piercing Man on June 23, 2019, 07:39:24 pm
Does that mean we'll finally get the original SFC version of Final Fantasy V translated??  :o

I'd love an NES FF Trilogy(1-3) and an SNES FF Trilogy(4-6) Collections!! :D

No way in hell... The mobile ports became the cheap standard already...
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: lexluthermiester on June 24, 2019, 11:59:16 am
No way in hell... The mobile ports became the cheap standard already...
That's not true, they might do it. Collections seem to be very popular these days. Their easy money-makers.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: marioxb on June 24, 2019, 01:06:49 pm
Screw the RPG's. How about a remake/ re-release of Rad Racer I and II?
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Post by: Bregalad on June 24, 2019, 02:48:35 pm
Screw the RPG's. How about a remake/ re-release of Rad Racer I and II?
What about remakes/re-releases of

Guess we're all waiting for those :D
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Badseed on June 24, 2019, 02:53:30 pm
King's Knight was recently redone as King’s Knight: Wrath of the Dark Dragon on mobile, and it was just as if not more crappy as the original.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Bregalad on June 24, 2019, 02:55:03 pm
King's Knight was recently redone as King’s Knight: Wrath of the Dark Dragon on mobile, and it was just as if not more crappy as the original.
You're kidding me ? How could anyone have the idea to re-relase this game, and how could it possibily be worse ?
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Post by: Gideon Zhi on June 24, 2019, 03:06:00 pm
It was a tie-in with FF15. No idea how it could have been worse though.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Badseed on June 25, 2019, 09:01:36 am
King’s Knight: Wrath of the Dark Dragon was bad enough to be shut down by square and delisted from Google play in less than a year.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: lexluthermiester on June 25, 2019, 06:03:36 pm
King’s Knight: Wrath of the Dark Dragon was bad enough to be shut down by square and delisted from Google play in less than a year.
It was utter crap and nothing like the NES original. It was basically run-&-gun shootem-up on rails, poorly done..
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: KingMike on June 26, 2019, 10:13:51 am
What about remakes/re-releases of
  • Thexder
  • Tobal N°1
  • 3D Worldrunner
  • King's Knight
  • Chocobo Racing

Guess we're all waiting for those :D

Thexder is not a Square-Enix game. Square only originally published the game in Japan, I think it is Game Arts which made the game. They're still around, still ruining the Lunar franchise when they can, aren't they? :P
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Bregalad on June 26, 2019, 10:21:50 am
My understanding is that they ported the existing game to Famicom, and this was their very first NES/FC game (even though the game itself wasn't theirs). I might be wrong though. If it doesn't count then I guess King's Knight was their first ? Or was it one of the many shitty FDS games they co-developed ?
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: KingMike on June 27, 2019, 08:11:10 pm
Thexder was the first Famicom game they published, in 1985. So early it uses a real early Square "logo" that was dropped soon after (don't know if even the Famicom version of King's Knight, their second game, released in 1986, used it).
Looks like just "SQUARE" written in plain white, I don't know, Helvetica, or something, font. :D
(Door Door was also the first Famicom game Enix published in that same year)
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Bregalad on June 28, 2019, 05:47:24 am
(don't know if even the Famicom version of King's Knight, their second game, released in 1986, used it).
It seems to use the good old regular "Square" logo. (http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/image.php?ImageID=8880)
That being said I wonder if Square only published Thexder or if they ported it and published it. It would seem weird that they'd just publish a game from the start if they're not even an established company yet. The porter in NESCartDB is claimed to be "BitsLaboratoy" but I wonder if that's not another word from Square, considering that company would supposedly also have developped King's Knight and Hanjuku Hero, which are unaniously conisdered games by Square.
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Post by: Gideon Zhi on June 28, 2019, 09:50:19 am
There's a Thexder refresh on PSP, for what it's worth. "Thexder Neo."
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: KingMike on June 30, 2019, 03:31:08 pm
It seems to use the good old regular "Square" logo. (http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/image.php?ImageID=8880)
That being said I wonder if Square only published Thexder or if they ported it and published it. It would seem weird that they'd just publish a game from the start if they're not even an established company yet. The porter in NESCartDB is claimed to be "BitsLaboratoy" but I wonder if that's not another word from Square, considering that company would supposedly also have developped King's Knight and Hanjuku Hero, which are unaniously conisdered games by Square.
Wasn't Bits Laboratory the same company that made the infamous NES port of Ghostbusters?
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Post by: # on June 30, 2019, 07:49:08 pm
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Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Cristal on July 11, 2019, 05:37:21 pm
One thing I'm hoping for is a "Romancing SaGa Collection". Japan will be getting a remake of the third game later this year, while the western version is still TBA. It'd be pretty nice to get a collection of the original SFC trilogy along with that (similar to what they did with Mana).

That would be a good opportunity to finally introduce those titles to western territories properly. They're among Square's greatest classics in Japan, so it'd certainly be worth it.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: lexluthermiester on July 14, 2019, 01:28:20 am
One thing I'm hoping for is a "Romancing SaGa Collection". Japan will be getting a remake of the third game later this year, while the western version is still TBA. It'd be pretty nice to get a collection of the original SFC trilogy along with that (similar to what they did with Mana).

That would be a good opportunity to finally introduce those titles to western territories properly. They're among Square's greatest classics in Japan, so it'd certainly be worth it.
This, Yes!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Chronosplit on July 14, 2019, 11:38:19 am
One thing I'm hoping for is a "Romancing SaGa Collection". Japan will be getting a remake of the third game later this year, while the western version is still TBA. It'd be pretty nice to get a collection of the original SFC trilogy along with that (similar to what they did with Mana).

That would be a good opportunity to finally introduce those titles to western territories properly. They're among Square's greatest classics in Japan, so it'd certainly be worth it.
This depends on whether or not Square's tactic with picking mobile versions first to use as a base is alive and well.  And with Chrono Trigger's recent thing, it may be.  Otherwise they'd be dealing with RS2 again (which is okay, the translation job wasn't stellar but it was in english).

Man, I would really love to rip those out and play them as SNES games though.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: John Enigma on September 11, 2019, 09:43:30 pm
And probably a version of the Dragon Quest series, either in ROM form or ports from mobile (hey, IV-VI were actually good).
Well, you weren't wrong about SE re-releasing ports of Dragon Quest (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/09/japanese_releases_of_dragon_quest_i_ii_and_iii_on_switch_will_be_playable_in_english). Of course, people are saying that these are ports of the mobile versions. They also plan on giving it an English language option for the Asian release.
Title: Re: Square-Enix is doubling down on re-releases.
Post by: Chronosplit on September 12, 2019, 09:13:07 am
Well, you weren't wrong about SE re-releasing ports of Dragon Quest (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/09/japanese_releases_of_dragon_quest_i_ii_and_iii_on_switch_will_be_playable_in_english). Of course, people are saying that these are ports of the mobile versions. They also plan on giving it an English language option for the Asian release.
I hear it might be the PS4 version, which was also never in english.

Either way, that just torpedoed this entire thing if it isn't localized.
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Post by: John Enigma on September 16, 2019, 10:46:13 am
Either way, that just torpedoed this entire thing if it isn't localized.
Apparently, they were planning on bringing it to the West the whole time. (https://mobile.twitter.com/DragonQuest/status/1173582556718977025) They just didn't want to announce it on the Nintendo Direct for reasons unknown.
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Post by: KingMike on September 17, 2019, 01:22:09 pm
So they're pointing out Europe has officially gotten the game for the first time on console.
On about the thirtieth anniversary of the NA launch of the first game. :(

Though Square-Enix also announced ports of Dragon Quest Monsters 1 and 2, but since the west never got the PS1 nor 3DS remakes, I wouldn't get too excited about it. :P