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Title: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: ThePreciseClimber on April 17, 2018, 02:34:46 pm
I'm talking about this track here:
https://youtu.be/eAU4BkrDibU

The regular game just reuses the Surf City theme for Terra Tubes.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: PolishedTurd on April 21, 2018, 01:16:40 am
To my knowledge, there is not, but this would be a good first thing to learn how to hack. If you have any interest, I would be happy to explain how. It would probably take you about a half hour to learn and do.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: Fire-WSP on April 21, 2018, 08:20:04 am
@ThePreciseClimber
you should accept his offer :)
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: Midna on April 21, 2018, 09:02:53 am
The unused theme fits Surf City more than Terra Tubes, honestly.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: realworksuks on May 19, 2018, 07:17:09 pm
Wow, I've played through Battletoads so many times and even heard that one of the levels has a repeat track, but I always thought it was just perhaps a portion of the track that may have been repeated because I never heard it myself.  How could it be that both levels use the exact same music and I never noticed?  Wow, that reminds me of the Yanny/Laurel thing.  I guess that is good news for Rare that they got away with it and I never noticed it even after beating the game probably 30+ times.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: Midna on May 19, 2018, 07:27:28 pm
It's probably how they are so many levels between them, so even though it's not a new song at all, it still feels fresh.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: KingMike on May 19, 2018, 09:53:40 pm
Before youtube, hearing the full Speed Bike track was beyond most people's skill.  ;D
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: realworksuks on May 20, 2018, 03:00:08 pm
I think another thing that threw me off is that I heard that the Rat Race was the same music as Surf City and every time I tried to listen to it I just kept thinking to myself, that is just not correct!  Haha.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: w1ck3d on May 21, 2018, 04:42:21 pm
Oh, that's a neat little track. I wonder if someone simply made a mistake with a single line of code, did the european release feature any background music changes? Cause that version had a number of fixes done to it, that have been backported by a previous hack.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: Bregalad on May 22, 2018, 06:52:37 am
There's an unused theme, but what makes you think it was supposed to be played in Terra Tubes ? Just because Terra Tubes reuses the surf music doesn't mean the unused theme was necessarly going to be Terra Tubes' theme.

Also the Megadrive version re-use the Intruder Excluder music for Terra Tubes, so two levels in row have the same music, which is not particularly great - I think the NES version is supperior.

Personally I think that as the unused theme loops rather shortly it was probably intended for some kind of race.

Before youtube, hearing the full Speed Bike track was beyond most people's skill.  ;D
Even if you hear it, you're so concentrated on the game that it's unlikely you'll really listen to it. Also NSFs appeared long before youtube.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: Midna on May 22, 2018, 06:55:23 am
I feel like it was meant for Surf City because it's so upbeat-sounding. The gloomy-sounding song used for both levels in-game fits a level where you're stuck in a pipeline full of spinning blades and carnivorous fish more than it does surfing down a river through a wide-open cave.
Title: Re: Battletoads NES - Is there a hack that restores the unused Terra Tubes theme?
Post by: MGE on May 22, 2018, 12:49:21 pm
I feel like it was meant for Surf City because it's so upbeat-sounding. The gloomy-sounding song used for both levels in-game fits a level where you're stuck in a pipeline full of spinning blades and carnivorous fish more than it does surfing down a river through a wide-open cave.

I agree.  The "Surf City" track has that "round, tubular echo" effect on the main bass line.  We might assume that the unused track is meant for Surf City and the Surf City track for the tube level.

I absolutely love the Surf City track, though.  What a groove.  Battletoads is amazing.