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Romhacking => ROM Hacking Discussion => Topic started by: Kallisto on July 20, 2016, 12:48:50 am

Title: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Kallisto on July 20, 2016, 12:48:50 am
I always wondered if this community found anything that TCRF has yet to post.

On a side-note does anyone have any clue what exactly is the unused area for Dragon Quest III (SNES) was exactly? TCRF suggests it, but they had not really updated it for a long time now.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: ThegreatBen on July 20, 2016, 06:53:43 am
Attack of the Saiyans has the full unused graphics for a doctor Wheelo enemy in the rom.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Jorpho on July 20, 2016, 09:48:44 am
I always wondered if this community found anything that TCRF has yet to post.
TCRF is editable by anyone; there is no particular reason why one could not simply saunter in and add something to the relevant discussion page.

If you're looking for something to contribute, the Euro edition of Super Paper Mario apparently makes a change to a spot in Chapter 5-4 where it is otherwise possible to camp and gain unlimited experience.  I keep hoping someone will step in and confirm that.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: CM30 on July 20, 2016, 10:27:53 am
Well, not technically through hacking games. But I have found a few interesting things when trying to data mine them outside of TCRF (via a tile editor), or when messing around with codes.

For example, Wario Land 4 has an unused animation for when you kill the seagull in the Wario Hop. As far as I know, this was never used in the actual game, since you can't jump high enough to interact with it.

It also has various beta tiles found underneath the ground in levels too. And there's a room past the far right wall in Palm Tree Paradise with a diamond and some enemies in too. Found that one years before TCRF or other sites about 'unused content' were ever established.

I also found a bunch of unused songs in Luigi's Mansion 2, though I was looking to post the soundtrack in high quality rather than actually mod the game. I eventually registered and (with the help of another member there) posted the songs and stuff on the wiki in the right location.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: MathUser2929 on July 20, 2016, 10:35:46 am
I found alot of unused attacks in castlevania SOTN for enemies that still ain't documented anywhere on the internet. That fire demon has one where it looks like just his head is sticking out of the ground and then he bursts out and all the debri lands by where his head was. The debri was not colored correctly. I don't remember what else I found. I have no way of hacking that code again unless I was supposed to figure out how to use a external cheat program on an emulator. I found the ones I found using gameshark pro.
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Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: VicVergil on July 23, 2016, 08:35:32 am
Found lots of unused areas, but mainly in RPGs. For example, after some RAM manipulation, one can find out the NA version of Rhapsody still has the missing additional content from the JP version. Story text is blank (likely untranslated yet using a font without JP letters) but menus, items, and even some conversations are translated (very roughly).

(http://i.imgur.com/KxZuqaS.png) (http://i.imgur.com/4Iks5Jm.png)

Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: MarkGrass on July 23, 2016, 08:55:46 am
Not exactly an unused area, just stuff that tcrf has yet to document.
Mega Man 8 [PSone] Debug Menu (http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,17158.html)
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: nesrocks on July 23, 2016, 11:20:01 am
I know Super Pitfall for the NES has unused areas... The author is too busy with hacking the game.
There are unused graphics, items, hud and enemies too. Some unused enemy graphics are exactly the same pixel art as enemies on the pc-88 version. There are probably unused sound fx too, haven't tested that out yet.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Kallisto on July 26, 2016, 08:37:25 am
Still amazes me people are still finding stuff in older games.

We really ought to have a dedicated thread for this.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: paul_met on July 30, 2016, 04:29:33 pm
Legend of oasis (Story of Thor 2) has unfinished location, which can be accessed only through the debug menu.

(http://i59.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0925/2d/470c423b07ce57a0bc0e5122b1b34b2d.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Jorpho on July 30, 2016, 09:12:34 pm
We really ought to have a dedicated thread for this.
We should make it a wiki!

Oh wait.
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Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Kallisto on July 31, 2016, 12:14:13 pm
Interesting that people know of tcrf.net … yet never release any information on the unused stuff they found...

Yeah, that site is officially dead in the water unfortunately.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Revenant on July 31, 2016, 12:46:20 pm
Yeah, that site is officially dead in the water unfortunately.

We are? That's news to me...
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Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: MathUser2929 on July 31, 2016, 01:45:34 pm
I think he probably means the forums. Those are pretty dead. Despite that the wiki is very active still.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Revenant on July 31, 2016, 02:16:09 pm
Yeah, the forum is unfortunately less active than it could be. People are still welcome to post their cool findings there though :)
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: VicVergil on July 31, 2016, 08:36:34 pm
Still amazes me people are still finding stuff in older games.

We really ought to have a dedicated thread for this.

Feel free to start one here then, with something fresh you found for example. It's always fun to read, and participate, in such threads without being too bogged down in wiki drama or other unrelated issues (also, the content wouldn't disappear for not meeting some nebulous standards decided by some random committee). There's quite a bit of modding sites, fantranslator blogs and game enthusiast forums out there who share such passion.

Back on topic, JRPGs always seem to have the most discarded content.
For example, the final boss (first form)' room in Tenchi Suzou/Terranigma extends quite a bit off-screen:
Spoiler:
(http://i.imgur.com/fEGP7q3.png)
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: ladyabaxa on July 31, 2016, 10:12:13 pm
We are? That's news to me...

News to me as well after spending most of a day trying to get SFCD debug codes to work and documenting the results. (Still can't get Turbo Mode to work.) Speaking for myself though I'm slow to update because I tend to bounce around between projects. Editing a wiki isn't something I have a lot of time for.

I'll get the Phantasy Star IV page updated soon~ish though, honest! (I've been telling myself that for the last six months. Maybe now that I've put it in writing I'll actually do it.)
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Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Revenant on July 31, 2016, 11:31:19 pm
Seems like a neat place ... but I see that one of the users has the title "Disgustingly Naive Smartass" ... What the actual fuck?

People with more than 500 posts are allowed to give themselves whatever title they want.
Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Kallisto on August 02, 2016, 12:49:04 pm
I suppose that was unfair to me to say.

It's just that every time I visit that it is usually the same stuff as I saw last time, and hints there is more stuff to be found, but months to a year go by without a update to a specific wiki except for really small stuff. I visited the forum one time, and noticed it was actually kind of more active in there...though I got to wonder why there is so much drama though.  :(
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Title: Re: Anyone found any interesting unused areas?
Post by: Kallisto on August 03, 2016, 12:18:31 pm
Well it might have calmed down since then, but some people there seem like they didn't get along at the time.