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Title: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on April 19, 2016, 10:47:25 pm
The Game
46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron (PC-98, 1990) is the predecessor to E.V.O.: Search for Eden (SNES, 1993). We're titling our translation of it E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution.

Our translation is complete! Download it here on RHDN (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2830/) or here on our team website (http://46okumen.com/projects/e-v-o-the-theory-of-evolution/).

(http://retro-type.com/46_okunen_monogatari/evo-the-theory-of-evolution-english.png)

This game is a turn-based RPG about evolution, and is rather darker, with a more fleshed-out story than its sequel Search for Eden. Unlike the SNES game's body-part-based evolution system, here you evolve by allocating points to one of four stats, and you evolve into an entirely new creature when you cross a certain threshold. Here's (http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/46okunen/46okunen.htm) a Hardcore Gaming 101 article about both E.V.O. games, if you want more details.

Watch the trailer here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ISbJ0k0l0I)

Project Scope
Translate all text and images in the game, including the creature encyclopedia and game over stories.
Patch should work on real hardware.
Translate the manual as well.
Help out people who are just getting started with PC-98 emulation.

Project Status
Done: Mapping, Dumping, Translation, Reinsertion, Revision, Bugfixes, Image Reinsertion, Formatting, Finishing Touches, Manual Translation, Manual Layout, Beta Testing

Release Date: December 28, 2016

Credits
46 OkuMen (http://46okumen.com) (Core Team):
hollowaytape - Hacking
kuoushi - Translation, Editing, Trailer
SkyeWelse - Chapter Title Graphics, Manual Layout, Promo Art

Contributors:
Racoon Sam / SkyeWelse - Main Title Graphic
M-bot - Graphics Hacking
sonofashark / Ultimate - Manual Scans
not_log - Manual Scanlation
joseji - Special Thanks
Highwang, SkyeWelse, Arboreal, RadGalaxy, measuredincm, gonameyourself - Beta Testing

Screenshots
(http://46okumen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NP2_0002.png)(http://46okumen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NP2_0001.png)(http://46okumen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NP2_0000.png)(http://46okumen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NP2_0006.png)(http://46okumen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NP2_0005.png)(http://46okumen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NP2_0003.png)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Raccoon Sam on April 20, 2016, 02:23:51 am
Wow, this is great! I tried my hand with this too but couldn't figure anything out, couldn't find any data from the files, in fact.
The screenshots looks really nice.
Looking forward to this!

EDIT: Have you decided on the name of the title? I could probably whip up a title screen graphic if that's okay, just need to know the correct wording.
EDIT EDIT:
something like this? missing a subtitle obviously but you probably get the point
(http://i.imgur.com/pw9TWEI.png)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on April 20, 2016, 12:17:01 pm
Thanks! I had some trouble with the data first too, but I found it by relative searching "ENIX" from the opening credits, then "TAKE IT EASY" from some of the dialogue right before the final boss. It's Shift-JIS and stored in the executables ST1-ST6.EXE, plus OPENING.EXE and ENDING.EXE, plus the encyclopedia SINKA.DAT and the endings list SEND.DAT. A lot of these files didn't show up when I first extracted the FDI using EditDisk, since they get marked as hidden automatically in Windows for whatever reason...

That's a cool title screen mockup, but it sounded to me like SkyeWelse wanted to do the graphic edits. I am working with M-bot from the Heroes of Legend PC-98 forum to write a codec for the .GDT image format, and we're not sure about the limitations quite yet - I wanted to figure that out before any images get created for the project. Plus, no word from kuoushi about the title yet. I appreciate you whipping that up super fast, though.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Raccoon Sam on April 20, 2016, 04:45:46 pm
That's totally fine, thanks. A GDT parser sounds super great, too!
Keep us all updated and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Magma Dragoon on April 21, 2016, 07:14:38 pm
This is great! If there was one PC-98 game I wanted to see translated it was this one.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: ze10 on May 08, 2016, 12:35:33 am
I'm really excited about this project. This game is really interesting and I'm looking forward to playing it :)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Strawberrymilk9 on May 10, 2016, 12:52:25 am
I can't wait to see what comes out of this project. I'd make the effort to play through the game even if all I had was a translated script to follow along with as I tried to make sense of all the moonrunes.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Mew seeker on June 14, 2016, 11:19:37 am
By "Alternate Endings", do you mean the events that happens when you evolve the "wrong" way?  :laugh:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on June 14, 2016, 03:23:43 pm
By "Alternate Endings", do you mean the events that happens when you evolve the "wrong" way?  :laugh:

Yup, that's what I mean! There are tons of them - they represent about 15% of the game's total text, so we'll be spending a while on them. Hopefully they'll be funny enough to justify the effort!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: ObiKKa on July 06, 2016, 02:42:02 pm
Hi all. Have any of you noticed this nice Retro Collect review (http://www.retrocollect.com/Reviews/retro-import-review-evo-the-search-for-eden-super-nintendo.html) for the SNES variant of this game, which was published on 10 JUNE 2016? It's also got 3 embedded videos, delicious! :cookie:

* Sorry, I had to edit this post because I missed or didn't remember the HG101 article link in your original post above. In that article they even linked to an old 2008 thread from Kingmike suggesting that someone in here had back then been working on a translation for the PC-98 game!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Midna on July 06, 2016, 11:01:50 pm
Hi all. Have any of you noticed this nice HG101 feature (http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/46okunen/46okunen.htm) on both the SNES and PC-98 variants of this game, which was published on January 17, 2016? They even linked to an old 2008 thread from Kingmike suggesting that someone in here had back then been working on a translation for the PC-98 game!

Did you read the first post? It's mentioned there.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: ObiKKa on July 07, 2016, 02:57:31 pm
Yes, missed it up above. But I've edited my previous post to include a more recent review for the SNES version only of this game. Check it.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sushinfood on July 12, 2016, 11:05:10 pm
Just passing through and wanted to shout out my earnest support for this incredible project!!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: AfritxAlchemy on July 14, 2016, 01:23:08 pm
Wow, wow, wow! :D
I lost all hope seeing the old thread for this translation die, now I'm excited to see things going so smoothly!
I played (or rather STUMBLED) through the original Japanese version within a week. But that was the most satisfying week of my life.

After first discovering the SNES sequel EVO back around late 2009 I've been enamored with the series since! Soon after, I learned of the prequel and began trying to hunt it down, but to no avail. But then around October of last year I succeeded in securing a copy and an emulator that runs it properly, and the rest (pardon the pun) is history! I can't wait to go through the game again and relive that fun!

 :woot!: Most of all, I thank you deeply for all the time and effort you and your team have put into this project and all the time and effort you all will put into its completion.  :woot!:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: cheez on August 20, 2016, 07:08:34 am
Heh, I've been waiting for this to happen for a long time. I remember introducing the game to Kuoushi along time back and talking about the various differences the game held in comparison with its SNES successor. It's a very interesting little project so I'm glad to see it's getting some attention after all this time in relative obscurity.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on August 22, 2016, 07:54:40 pm
:angel: So amazing to see some legit translated text in these screenshots! I worked for months on extracting and translating this game, and had so many issues I had to give up!

I'm a massive fan, and have all three versions of the game (PC-98, SNES & SNES-J). Feeling nostalgic and hoping you guys keep the project going strong! Here are some pics of my EVO boxes:

For FYI, the PC-98 disks I have are 3.5" I've met one other person online who owned the game and they also had it in 3.5" format. I've seen pictures on ebay recently of a 5.25" copy of the game but I can't verify it's authenticity. It's possible the game came out in both formats. Anyway, see attached my full IMGUR album for fun:
https://imgur.com/a/r3Cwx
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on August 24, 2016, 10:33:52 am
Heh, I've been waiting for this to happen for a long time. I remember introducing the game to Kuoushi along time back and talking about the various differences the game held in comparison with its SNES successor. It's a very interesting little project so I'm glad to see it's getting some attention after all this time in relative obscurity.

Well, you've definitely done us all a favor by getting kuoushi interested! He's obviously been crucial to the project. So thanks!

:angel: So amazing to see some legit translated text in these screenshots! I worked for months on extracting and translating this game, and had so many issues I had to give up!
...
Anyway, see attached my full IMGUR album for fun:
https://imgur.com/a/r3Cwx

Wow, that album looks great! Is that little black booklet in the PC-98 version box an instruction manual? Is there anything noteworthy inside?

Super cool that you were trying to work on this as well. What kinds of issues were you encountering? I'd love to compare notes if you have anything from back then; even if you gave up you may have figured out some stuff I didn't. (Like, I still don't know how the game decides which creature you evolve into next.)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on August 24, 2016, 04:39:24 pm
Honestly, I didn't get terribly far. I'm much better at graphics design. I was just basically playing with titles and text, and could never re-import the text or changes without crashing the game. For some reason it always screwed up whenever I saved my changes basically.

As for your second question, it is the instruction manual! In fact, I've never seen anyone else with one in good condition/all pages so let me upload it (with my cell phone haha). It has tables and pics that may help you figure out what's going on; it's better than a lot of other manuals I've seen for pc-98. Also, check out the reverse box art - it shows you the evolution chain with pictures. I think the charts address how the game decides on what you evolve into. Sorry for finger appearing in some pics - gotta wrap up and head out to a movie!
 ::) https://imgur.com/a/ASO2v

Happy to be credited for supplying this document if you can :) Also, if you provide me the translated text I can easily produce for you a fairly authentic-looking pdf file with original artwork etc, so anyone who plays this has a companion document with the original look and feel.

https://imgur.com/a/ASO2v

August 24, 2016, 04:39:42 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Well, you've definitely done us all a favor by getting kuoushi interested! He's obviously been crucial to the project. So thanks!

Wow, that album looks great! Is that little black booklet in the PC-98 version box an instruction manual? Is there anything noteworthy inside?

Super cool that you were trying to work on this as well. What kinds of issues were you encountering? I'd love to compare notes if you have anything from back then; even if you gave up you may have figured out some stuff I didn't. (Like, I still don't know how the game decides which creature you evolve into next.)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on August 28, 2016, 06:38:51 pm
https://imgur.com/a/ASO2v

This is a fantastic resource! This would be a totally fun resource to include with the game. Translation of it probably won't happen until after the game translation is complete, but I'm definitely interested in seeing it happen.

And yeah, the game is really picky about changing the length of any file, or any text block, so it was booting to a black screen for me for the first month of attempting reinsertion.

You mentioned titles - were you playing around with the title images or something else?
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on August 31, 2016, 06:03:34 pm
I started off with the title images as it seemed like a good launching point, but shortly gave up. Then I went on to trying to just translate the first few blocks of text that you get, along with some other random titles I could identify. However, I did notice the length of the file and text blocks changing a lot, and getting the black screen each time I tried to save what I was doing/reinsert.

I'm happy not being able to master it, and super happy I found this thread :) You guys are doing awesome work.

My Japanese is not good enough to make an authentic translation of the manual. I assume one of you guys is working on translation? I do have a small group of Japanese friends who I could ask. Maybe I could be doing this on the side while you guys work the game end. If not maybe someone on reddit would be cool enough to help.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on August 31, 2016, 07:03:49 pm
It looks like kuoushi might be able to translate the manual as well, so don't worry about that part! I'll let you know when I want your help laying it all out.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Magma Dragoon on September 01, 2016, 02:22:08 pm
A proper pdf scan of the manual would be super nice!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on September 17, 2016, 02:13:37 pm
Am I seeing a treasure here? 8)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on September 17, 2016, 02:58:39 pm
Better scans or pictures of the manual would be appreciated if possible, sonofashark. You could PM them to me if you want to keep them under wraps or secret or something. Mostly so I can have all of the text properly available to me, makes it easier to translate and possibly use OCR so I can use it with the rest of my translation tools.


Also, I think I've got the title. It wasn't a hard decision to make, in all honesty. It's basically just slamming the translation of the SNES game's title into this one.

E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution

Hope I didn't steal any of hollowaytape's thunder by letting you guys know the title we're probably going to go with. He's the real hero of this particular romhack.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on September 17, 2016, 03:26:24 pm
Sounds a bit too long, if you ask me.

The-the-o-ry-of-e-vo-lu-tion.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on September 17, 2016, 04:09:57 pm
The Japanese titles for both games are pretty long as well.

46 Okunen Monogatari: THE Shinkaron (PC-98)
46 Okunen Monogatari: Harukanaru Eden e (SNES)

And the official English title for the latter only really cuts down on the first part.

E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution (PC-98)
E.V.O.: Search for Eden (SNES)

I think it fits fine in general when placed next to that and considering the content of the game is pretty based on the theory of evolution as well.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on September 17, 2016, 04:46:38 pm
Hmm, I like the title, except for how long it sounds.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on September 17, 2016, 05:01:24 pm
Sounds a bit too long, if you ask me.

The-the-o-ry-of-e-vo-lu-tion.

Will do! I have a scanner I can plug in. The title AFAIK was 46 okunen monogatari...or the 46 million/billion year story, but the Theory of Evolution does sound a heck of lot less clunky :P
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on September 17, 2016, 05:03:42 pm
Sure, it's an improvement over the original name.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: cheez on September 18, 2016, 07:43:15 pm
I think it's a good title. It matches the formatting of the one we ended up with, has "brand recognition" and probably a bit more of a lure than "4.6 billion year story"
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Sabin Stargem on September 19, 2016, 04:17:45 am
Might I suggest a title or two? 

1 - "E.V.O:  The Origin of Species"
2 - "E.V.O:  Before Eden."
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on September 20, 2016, 01:50:23 am
This is embarrassing, but does anyone have any tips on beating Lucifer at the end of Chapter 5? Trying to test some reinsertion in Chapter 6 but I am not good enough at the game to get there again.

Edit: Figured it out thanks to a Let's Play. Most of the game's combat is pretty simple, but halfway through Chapter 5, you unlock an "Item" combat option and I'm not sure what any of the suboptions do! To beat Lucifer you usually have to use lots of items, which is tough without understanding.

Anyway, I'm happy with the title E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution. I had thought about something like E.V.O.: The Origin of Species, since it alludes to this being the prequel, but this game is just as much about the future of life as it is the origin of life.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Sabin Stargem on September 20, 2016, 04:00:43 pm
Anyway, I'm happy with the title E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution. I had thought about something like E.V.O.: The Origin of Species, since it alludes to this being the prequel, but this game is just as much about the future of life as it is the origin of life.

On the contrary.  There is a book called "On the Origin of Species", which is very important:  It argued for the existence of evolution, and explained the mechanics by which it occurred.  Darwin's efforts gave legitimacy and popularity to evolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cPpHlcj_O4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cPpHlcj_O4)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on September 20, 2016, 06:33:35 pm
On the contrary.  There is a book called "On the Origin of Species", which is very important:  It argued for the existence of evolution, and explained the mechanics by which it occurred.  Darwin's efforts gave legitimacy and popularity to evolution.

Hahaha, I am aware of that book and its influence. And I do recognize that despite the word "origin," its contents still apply to the evolution that occurs elsewhere.

But the very first screen of the game asks us not to compare it to 'real' theories of evolution like Darwin's:

(http://res.cloudinary.com/hollowaytape/image/upload/v1474406309/origin_of_species_uj9ocj.png)

The evolution in this game definitely isn't Darwinian - slow and incremental "descent with modification" wouldn't make a very exciting game, I think.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on September 21, 2016, 06:55:09 pm
High quality scans uploaded :)

Screw being secret about it. Please credit Ultimate :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142915503@N06/albums/72157674201412105

Also, I have higher quality scans in a PDF if needed - message me your e-mail or I can drop a link here

September 22, 2016, 03:22:57 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Better scans or pictures of the manual would be appreciated if possible, sonofashark. You could PM them to me if you want to keep them under wraps or secret or something. Mostly so I can have all of the text properly available to me, makes it easier to translate and possibly use OCR so I can use it with the rest of my translation tools.


Also, I think I've got the title. It wasn't a hard decision to make, in all honesty. It's basically just slamming the translation of the SNES game's title into this one.

E.V.O.: The Theory of Evolution

Hope I didn't steal any of hollowaytape's thunder by letting you guys know the title we're probably going to go with. He's the real hero of this particular romhack.

see previous message - also I tried OCR tools with some success. Let me know if you get it all extracted :)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on September 30, 2016, 12:26:16 am
Sorry for the late reply but the scans look good enough to either OCR or just translate however. I'll let you know when I can focus on them after finishing work on the main game.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on October 05, 2016, 05:43:13 am
I'm really hyped for this! :D
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: John Enigma on October 05, 2016, 06:19:40 pm
I wanna know, what NEC PC-98 emulator are you using to run this game?
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on October 05, 2016, 06:22:29 pm
I wanna know, what NEC PC-98 emulator are you using to run this game?

I use anex86 most of the time, and a debug version of Neko Project II on occasion. All the screenshots are from anex86.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari / E.V.O (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: SkyeWelse on October 07, 2016, 06:43:33 pm
Wow, this is great! I tried my hand with this too but couldn't figure anything out, couldn't find any data from the files, in fact.
The screenshots looks really nice.
Looking forward to this!

EDIT: Have you decided on the name of the title? I could probably whip up a title screen graphic if that's okay, just need to know the correct wording.
EDIT EDIT:
something like this? missing a subtitle obviously but you probably get the point
(http://i.imgur.com/pw9TWEI.png)

That's a cool title screen mockup, but it sounded to me like SkyeWelse wanted to do the graphic edits. I am working with M-bot from the Heroes of Legend PC-98 forum to write a codec for the .GDT image format, and we're not sure about the limitations quite yet - I wanted to figure that out before any images get created for the project. Plus, no word from kuoushi about the title yet. I appreciate you whipping that up super fast, though.

Hi everryone, I'm helping HollowayTape with the graphic edits on this project and was visiting the forum to see what was new when I saw this thread. I gotta say, even though I spent forever trying to create a new Title Screen graphic, I like Racoon Sam's title graphic a lot more than mine. He also did a lot better keeping the natural blending of the colors while keeping everything in square pixels. Also, it uses the "squared off" bullets similar to that of the English SNES logo which is a nice throwback. If that's okay with Sam, let's go with his version with the subtitle. It may need to have one extra square bullet after 'O' in order to keep it consistent with the English SNES release title screen though.

Sam, here's what mine looked like and the cleaned up standalone background images if you think you can use it.

(http://retro-type.com/46_okunen_monogatari/EVO-TOE-Title-Screen.png)

(http://retro-type.com/46_okunen_monogatari/EVO-TheTheoryOfEvolution-TitleScreen-BG-with-Subtitle.png)

(http://retro-type.com/46_okunen_monogatari/EVO-TheTheoryOfEvolution-TitleScreen-BG-only.png)

-Thomas
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Raccoon Sam on October 10, 2016, 04:16:57 am
Hello and thank you for the kind words.
Of course you may use my title - it would be an honor :)

However, what I did was a quick and dirty mockup in Photoshop. I do not know if it is even compliant with the color/tile/whatever limitations of PC-98.
I don't even have the original PSD file archived anywhere. I just whipped it up and saved a PNG; I never kept the original source file, haha.

But yeah, if you can use that as a base and do any necessary fixes you want, sure thing, go ahead.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: SkyeWelse on October 10, 2016, 05:10:51 pm
Thanks for replying Racoon Sam! No worries, I'm pretty sure I can duplicate the design, but since I really like the font-style and how you blended each of the colors, I definitely would like to try and recreate it. I also like that the O reminds me of typical stone wheel that you would find in typical caveman related stories/games, and since you can become a human in E.V.O.., at least in the SNES version, that's a nice touch.

Would you happen to remember the font you used for it? If not no worries, I'll eventually find it through trial and error or through the What the Font? website.

Thanks again for contributing this mockup!

-Thomas
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on October 10, 2016, 05:41:15 pm
Oh, yeah! I did really like the dusty color blending of Racoon Sam's mockup, that would be a great thing to try to recreate.

Kuoushi did tons of translation work, and is zeroing in on the game over screens/alternate endings right now. I am working on stamping out some nasty crashes, as well as writing a script to typeset the game's text correctly.

(http://res.cloudinary.com/hollowaytape/image/upload/v1476135972/evidence_07_zp7ghm.png)

The plot to this game is really something else. I can't wait to share it with you all!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on October 10, 2016, 05:42:01 pm
Hardcoregaming101 has a neat page dedicated to this game, including the story.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:43 pm
I KNEW dinosaurs got their knowledge from Lucifer! >:D

Jokes aside, this looks like a badass game! Glad to see it getting a translation.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Raccoon Sam on October 11, 2016, 01:25:17 am
SkyeWelse, as I remember it, I worked (for the first and so far only time) in a Anamorphic 2:1 Pixel Aspect Ratio.
I then laid out my text in Gotham Ultra with no anti-alias. With the original Japanese logo next to it, I tried to recreate the dither pattern and used it as my fill pattern. I think I snatched some pattern bits straight out from the original logo.
Once I had a flat text done, I simply 'extruded' it a few pixels to the background.

(http://i.imgur.com/j4D2pjY.gif)

EDIT: now that I look at it, jeeeez my kerning was way off  :-[
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: SkyeWelse on October 12, 2016, 01:13:15 pm
Thanks very much Racoon Sam! I think I have everything that I needed to put that into the title screen graphic. Should be ready for testing now.

I was able to get most of the original image brought in to the edited background, changed only a few things such as the colors at the top of the V and the spacing of some of the letters and period bullets while adding that final period bullet. I kind of wish it could be left out, but since it was in the original, I suppose it needs to be here too.

(http://retro-type.com/46_okunen_monogatari/46-Okunen-Title-Screen-revised.png)

-Thomas
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Raccoon Sam on October 12, 2016, 04:49:19 pm
Looks fantastic!!
Wouldn't change a thing :) also teamwork woo :beer:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on October 13, 2016, 02:33:13 am
I'm down to about 21 (of 47) evolution game over stories to go, which is the last of the text that needs translation. I'll hopefully finish that before the weekend.

Then it's time to start beating the script into shape with revisions and making sure everything sounds good as well as fits nicely into all of the text boxes and things.

Good progress being made.

Edit: The first draft of the script is done! Still a lot of work ahead though.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on October 16, 2016, 11:21:33 am
text

Messaged you the link for the archive of the scans :)

October 16, 2016, 11:22:30 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Let me know if you guys need any other various assistance :) photoshop etc

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I have an idea for a new project once this one is done :>   ::) :cookie:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on October 18, 2016, 01:40:39 am
There's still a lot of work to do, but I'd like to submit Exhibit A. The first thirtyish seconds of in-game footage in English.

Early early early build, English is subject to change, etc, etc. (Also the colors aren't perfect but that's due to my recording software. Need to figure out what it's doing.)

Click this (https://my.mixtape.moe/dwgudm.webm)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on October 18, 2016, 06:31:38 am
Well, it is looking good!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Strawberrymilk9 on October 18, 2016, 11:55:28 am
The hype is real!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: SCD on October 18, 2016, 01:40:40 pm
I checked out the video, your project is coming out great. Excellent job.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on October 18, 2016, 05:25:47 pm
One more quick little video from later on in the first chapter so you guys know we're getting through this really well.

https://my.mixtape.moe/hdlwxp.webm (https://my.mixtape.moe/hdlwxp.webm)

Still ironing out bugs and fixing English. Also I got rid of the scanlines that were in the last webm so you can see how it looks with and without depending your emulator settings.

Won't be posting too many more videos, don't want to spoil things from the game for you guys, but I will probably try to make a trailer closer to release!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on October 18, 2016, 06:36:16 pm
Wow, just wow!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Kallisto on October 19, 2016, 01:11:40 pm
Raptor Jesus died for RHDN's sins.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: tiozinho on October 19, 2016, 08:52:35 pm
Hello friends, I come to thank the opportunity to translate this great game for the Portuguese of Brazil. I'll do my best!

(https://s16.postimg.org/iqm908eud/evocapa01.png)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on October 21, 2016, 03:30:45 pm
Any interest after this is done to look at an SNES remake? New levels? I always found the original game ended too short. Happy to help with graphics/story :)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on October 21, 2016, 03:52:38 pm
Nah, the SNES version is boring as hell. Shitty music, controls and flat levels. I can understand people are really interested in the evolution mechanics, but I will never understand how people name this game their favourite.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on October 22, 2016, 09:02:15 pm
Any interest after this is done to look at an SNES remake? New levels? I always found the original game ended too short. Happy to help with graphics/story :)

While I would totally play an improved E.V.O.: Search for Eden, I'm only interested in doing translation hacks at the moment.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Strawberrymilk9 on October 25, 2016, 09:20:44 pm
Quote
Total: 99%
Last Edit: Today

Aaaaaaaahhh so exciting!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on October 28, 2016, 02:24:22 am
Aaaaaaaahhh so exciting!

Remember though, that percentage only reflects the amount of text inserted and not our overall progress. We still have a lot of testing and script editing to go, as well as crash bugs and the like to be fixed. We are doing our best to make the release high quality and also as soon as we can! Just not sure when that'll be yet.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on October 28, 2016, 08:44:21 am
Freaking amazing!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Strawberrymilk9 on October 28, 2016, 01:33:59 pm
Remember though, that percentage only reflects the amount of text inserted and not our overall progress. We still have a lot of testing and script editing to go, as well as crash bugs and the like to be fixed. We are doing our best to make the release high quality and also as soon as we can! Just not sure when that'll be yet.

It's still amazing progress! Originally I thought I wouldn't get to play this game until machine translation improved. I'll be waiting patiently for the finished product, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: mikeprado30 on October 31, 2016, 10:05:26 pm
A great advance just for the beginning of the process indeed  :)

Best wishes for this project and all the staff involved on it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on November 05, 2016, 04:19:54 am
I'll just mention this, I'm at the point where I will start work on translating the manual soon. Take that information however you like.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on November 05, 2016, 08:23:51 am
Errr, okay... :D
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on November 11, 2016, 08:17:10 pm
Have a trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ISbJ0k0l0I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ISbJ0k0l0I)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: SCD on November 12, 2016, 01:10:20 am
I checked out the trailer, you did a great job on it.

The progress of this hack is going really well.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on November 12, 2016, 09:37:28 am
Hats off! Bravo!

Once it is complete and ready for release, I can share that awesome YouTube trailer with some following on Reddit. I'm sure it'll generate a lot of interest!

I can offer to make a guide/help make a guide on how to download/install the emulator, so that everyone can enjoy it ^^
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: reyvgm on November 12, 2016, 12:13:13 pm
Does the game have multiple endings?

If there are, can you briefly explain how to get them?
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on November 12, 2016, 01:01:38 pm
I can offer to make a guide/help make a guide on how to download/install the emulator, so that everyone can enjoy it ^^

We've been working on that ourselves already with our own webpage. While it isn't quite full of information just yet, it does have a project page and a short getting started with emulating PC-98 page.

http://46okumen.com/pc-98-emulation/ (http://46okumen.com/pc-98-emulation/)

Does the game have multiple endings?

If there are, can you briefly explain how to get them?

The multiple endings are if you choose the wrong way to evolve. Basically if you do something like distribute your points to only a single stat and keep evolving in that direction the game will throw a message at you and then tell you a little story about why your species went extinct, then say game over. There's only one real ending though, the rest are game overs.

I think the manual says there are about 60 different game over stories.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: reyvgm on November 12, 2016, 04:22:48 pm
Well, if you get those messages at the 'end' of the game, then they are really bad endings.

Now, if you get them in the middle of the game, then they are game overs yes.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Magma Dragoon on November 14, 2016, 12:58:45 pm
Since this game comes in multiple disks, do you have plans one releasing a hard disk image?
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on November 14, 2016, 01:08:04 pm
Since this game comes in multiple disks, do you have plans one releasing a hard disk image?

Someone else has already released an .HDI of this game. We'll release a patch for the 5-disk .FDI version as well as the single .HDI at the same time.

The .HDI is particularly nice because you can play it on real hardware, too. Our graphic designer SkyeWelse has a PC-98, and he got our translation running on his machine just fine a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: tiozinho on November 15, 2016, 06:15:27 pm
Para os brasileiros que estão acompanhando o projeto e querem saber sobre a tradução em português e da parceria visite o fórum.

For the Brazilians who are following the project and want to know about the Portuguese translation and the partnership visit the forum.

(http://i.picasion.com/pic82/1d0acf2ef7dd541208e2da277c90e214.gif)

http://www.romhacking.net.br/smf2/index.php?topic=10.0
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on December 04, 2016, 08:36:08 pm
We've started beta testing on the patch now, which means translation and typesetting are practically done and we're trying to put the last level of polish on the game before public release by setting a number of new eyes on it.

We've posted about it on our website, where we also posted about possible future projects and other games we're interested in on the PC98 system.

http://46okumen.com/2016/12/04/46-okumen-monogatari-beyond-e-v-o/ (http://46okumen.com/2016/12/04/46-okumen-monogatari-beyond-e-v-o/)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on December 05, 2016, 05:09:01 am
A-mazing!!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on December 28, 2016, 04:26:29 pm
And it's out.

http://46okumen.com/2016/12/28/e-v-o-the-theory-of-evolution-pc-98-is-out/ (http://46okumen.com/2016/12/28/e-v-o-the-theory-of-evolution-pc-98-is-out/)

We're still waiting for RHDN to accept our submission, but you can get the patch and manual from our site for now!

Edit: Accepted! http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2830/ (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2830/)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: ze10 on December 28, 2016, 05:57:02 pm
I've been looking forward to this for a long time! Congratulations on everyone involved in this project! :beer:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Pennywise on December 28, 2016, 06:25:55 pm
Uh, I think you guys submitted this under the wrong section. While a translation is indeed a hack, there's also a category dedicated solely for translation hacks. Hacks are reserved for stuff like graphic mods, gameplay changes etc.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: mikeprado30 on December 28, 2016, 06:28:29 pm
Congrats! This is a great week for romhacking/translating world!!! First Heracles IV and now this GEM!  :beer: :crazy: :woot!:
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on December 28, 2016, 06:36:54 pm
Uh, I think you guys submitted this under the wrong section. While a translation is indeed a hack, there's also a category dedicated solely for translation hacks. Hacks are reserved for stuff like graphic mods, gameplay changes etc.

Yep. First release for us, mistakes were made. We're trying to get it fixed.

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2830/ (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2830/)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: cccmar on December 29, 2016, 03:19:21 am
Congrats! This is awesome, will be great to give it a spin. :) The quality is surely amazing, so that one's going to be a doozy. You may want to submit an announcement to the front page, so that more people would see it (Submit News).
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on December 30, 2016, 11:46:32 am
A work of art! Thanks for the kudos and glad I could play a small part :)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Valhariel on December 31, 2016, 06:40:34 pm
Congrats on the translation. I picked it up and gave it a spin today and I'm highly impressed. I've noticed in chapter 4 though, none of the combat text has been translated. Character dialogues seem to be in English so I don't -think- it's a problem with the patch. Is there anywhere I can submit a bug report or let somebody know?

Thanks again for all the hard work!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: hollowaytape on December 31, 2016, 08:35:35 pm
I've noticed in chapter 4 though, none of the combat text has been translated. Character dialogues seem to be in English so I don't -think- it's a problem with the patch. Is there anywhere I can submit a bug report or let somebody know?

Hey, that's pretty weird, we did translate that. I'll send you a PM and hopefully you can figure out what's wrong.

If anyone has any problems, send me a PM on the forums here, or an email to the address listed at the bottom of the readme.

EDIT: Yeah, this is a problem with the FDI patch. (However, the issue is with Chapter 5, not 4.) I've updated the patch on our site (http://46okumen.com/projects/e-v-o-the-theory-of-evolution/)  and on here as well.

If you're already a ways into the game but want to play with an updated patch without losing your save file, there is hope! Save files are in your Disk A/User Disk as PC1.46 - PC6.46, for EVO File 1 - EVO File 6. Use the program DiskExplorer/editdisk.exe (http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA013937/editdisk/index_e.html) to open your disk images and move these save files in and out of your disks.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: delta7890 on January 02, 2017, 09:36:05 pm
Thank you guys so much for this translation!  I'm a big fan of the SNES EVO so being able to play this is real blast.  Heck in some ways I think I'm liking this game better already!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: Magma Dragoon on January 05, 2017, 08:23:10 am
Just finished the game. You guys did an excellent job! Looking forward to what's next.

Also I did this: http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Lucifer_(46_Okunen_Monogatari)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: delta7890 on January 05, 2017, 09:53:51 am
Just a heads up that I spotted a typo in the translated manual.  The final event for Earth in the timeline reads "The Devil comtes to Earth".
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on January 05, 2017, 11:20:48 am
Also I did this: http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Lucifer_(46_Okunen_Monogatari)

Nice work on that! That's a super thorough write up about her, and the game in general!

Just a heads up that I spotted a typo in the translated manual.  The final event for Earth in the timeline reads "The Devil comtes to Earth".

Don't worry, that's just the first version of the manual. We'll be releasing the fully fixed manual soon which should have that, as well as a lot of other things fixed and looking nicer overall soon.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: delta7890 on January 05, 2017, 04:31:26 pm
Just finished the game. You guys did an excellent job! Looking forward to what's next.

Also I did this: http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Lucifer_(46_Okunen_Monogatari)

I hope you don't mind but I took the liberty of cleaning up and expanding upon Lucifer's wiki page here a bit.  Definitely good work here though.  :D

January 06, 2017, 03:55:15 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
So I've seen a chart of all of the game's evolutions floating around online, but even after beating the game I'm having a hard time figuring out which stat increases lead to which evolutions.  I understand from the manual that evolging by maxing out the stat that needs the *most* points leads to a vertical evolution, but for horizontal evolutions, what determines whether you evolve "left" or "right"?
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on January 07, 2017, 09:20:12 pm
Generally speaking, vitality and endurance will move you to the right and left.

Also, we just released the fully finished manual, here's the news post about it and some other EVO things like the response it has received.

http://46okumen.com/2017/01/07/the-response-to-e-v-o-and-progress-updates/ (http://46okumen.com/2017/01/07/the-response-to-e-v-o-and-progress-updates/)
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on January 08, 2017, 04:19:03 pm
So cool that the reaction has been so positive! Many thanks for the credits. IF you care, you can share a link to the manual scans so fans can enjoy some of the 'extras' from my EVO collection, for nostalgia purposes. https://www.flickr.com/photos/142915503@N06/sets/72157674201412105

Hope the manual helped contribute to the release, for the longest time I wondered if it was worth what I paid for it, but if it contributed at all then that's awesome.

Good work again (and again)!! Hope the Internet remains a-buzz for a few more weeks about this game, it's such an accomplishment you guys made to translate it all!
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: kuoushi on January 08, 2017, 04:45:34 pm
A lot of people have been reading the manual and talking about it when they talk about playing the game, so it has definitely helped the release. The final version of the manual that we have on our site is based on your scans as well. I'll add a link to the original scans to our project page, as it's definitely a cool little collection and I'd merely forgotten to include the link there.
Title: Re: 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinkaron / E.V.O. (PC-98) - English Translation
Post by: sonofashark on January 08, 2017, 04:51:39 pm
Sweet!! I am so happy to hear that :) Thanks!