It's my upcoming Super Mario World hack, due to be out by about 2015 if you're lucky. In case you don't know what I've worked on in the past, those were the brutally hard (and rather gimmicky) Mario End Game and the much easier Mario's Christmas Adventure hack, both on the main site here:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1739/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1727/
This one however is a bit different. Why? Because it's kind of in the middle of the two hacks above. Less gimmicky and ridiculously hard than Mario End Game, less easy/seasonal than Mario's Christmas Adventure.
Some information...
The Story
The story has Mario pulled inside a strange dream world when journeying back through the Mushroom Kingdom one day. Why does this happen? It's explained in the game itself. But the point is, can he somehow survive a bunch of unfamiliar locales and make his way back to his home world?
Graphics
One of the big things about this game are the GBA (and beyond) level graphics. How are these possible on a SNES? Well, by a sheer miracle that's how.
Some examples include a level based on Castlevania Symphony of the Night:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/CastlevaniaClockTower.png)
Some work in progress maps based on Mario Party Advance:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MarioPartyAdvanceStyleMap.png
Above is work in progress. Currently ripping the tiles rather than doing much map design.
And in one level, some tiles from The Minish Cap and Four Swords Adventures: (http://andinonelevel,sometilesfromtheminishcapandfourswordsadventures:)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/minishcapexgfx.png (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/minishcapexgfx.png)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/fourswordstiles.png (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/fourswordstiles.png)
Music
Has been decided, but not added yet. Some music prepared includes ports of various SNES Zelda songs (sampled to the same quality as the original game's themes), some sampled Donkey Kong Country 2 music and various others. All songs will be identical to original versions (or as close as possible in case of tunes from post Nintendo 64 era titles).
Gimmicks/ASM/Sprites
Apart from custom enemy sprites, level intros and other such things, I'm currently working with some individuals to make bosses based on characters from more recent Nintendo games (like those in Mario & Luigi Dream Team, Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and various others).
So yeah, it's a game in progress I guess. It's nowhere near done (only the tutorial level and parts of other levels have been finished, and ripping the other necessary graphics tiles is taking a ridiculously long time given the complexity of the sources chosen). Thoughts on the technical side of what I have so far?
Are you doing this solo? Cus if you need help ask me. I can do concept art for characters and enemies if you want? I can also look up SNES hacking tools to send too?
I'm really interested and would love to help with ideas!
Quote from: Chippy2000 on March 24, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
Are you doing this solo? Cus if you need help ask me. I can do concept art for characters and enemies if you want? I can also look up SNES hacking tools to send too?
I'm really interested and would love to help with ideas!
If you're a good artist (or able to sprite characters from recent games that don't have SNES quality sprites for them), that's something we're definitely interested in. Cause I'm not an artist, I can only rip sprites from existing games and sources. So anyone say, interested in trying to draw 16 bit versions of content from games like Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and Mario & Luigi Dream Team would be accepted immediately.
If course, if anyone's interested in level design, that's fine too. I don't mind if people contribute levels, and I can even send them the right graphics, music, sprites and asm needed.
It's been a long time since the last update, but hey, I may as well post the ton of graphics and level updates made since then...
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/clocktowerlevel.png)
Castlevania Symphony of the Night Clock Tower (part 2 of 3, the 3rd part is in the first post of the topic).
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/teaser3.png)
Switch Palace
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/teaser1.png)
Desert level
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ghostshipoutsidepic.png)
Ghost ship based on Rondo of Blood.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/genericcastletiles1.png)
Generic Castlevania castle level (all final world levels without specific graphics will use this tileset).
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/castlevanialevelpic.png)
Alchemy lab gfx test
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/castlemapalpha.png)
Submap based on Castlevania. Graphics from one of the GBA games.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/doodlewoodsscreen.png)
Doodle Woods
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/minishcapexgfx.png)
Hyrule themed level
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/fourswordstiles.png)
Zelda dungeon tiles, from Four Swords Adventures.
So yeah, just a few updates. Not shown are some other levels, some ice levels, some military themed levels or a level based on a creepypasta story I read online. The latter is called I Hate You, and will be based on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckpp2reRJlM
There are also gonna be a few... interesting enemy sprites. I won't say what they are here.
July 05, 2014, 03:16:19 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Oh, and some random updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/drearydepths.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/pyramid.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ashleypic.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/clocktowergears.png)
The gears in the last pic are animated. Levels finally have sprites and content, to some degree.
Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to bump the topic after this time, but I have an absolutely huge amount of updates I should probably have posted earlier...
Final world map (needs gradient):
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/betafinalmap.png)
Pyramid:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/diggablesand.png)
Tree Top/Inside:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/improvedtreezone.png)
A cave level:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/darkcave.png)
Arabian Night (Wario Land 4 inspired):
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/arabiannightlevel.png)
Aftermath (nuclear winter inspired, Jazz Jackrabbit tiles):
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/aftermath1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/aftermath2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/aftermath3.png)
Blizzard level:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/snowing.png)
Note: Will get layer 3 background.
Level 1:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/level1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/morelevel1.png)
Level 2:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/level2-1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/level2-2.png)
Level 2 bonus room:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/level2-bonus.png)
Shop:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/shop.png)
Chomp Volcano:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/chompvolcano.png)
Jeez that's a lot of screenshots. And that doesn't even count stuff like the new underwater levels (not shown), the other Wario Land inspired levels or anything else of the sort.
Great usage of tilesets!
I'm actually using a lot of these in my current Mario World hack myself.
Have you heard of effect tool?
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=73388
It allows you to make easy hdma effects (gradients, brightness, parallaw scrolling, wave effects, etc.) for easy insertion with uberasm.
(http://s18.postimg.org/hrfeoonrt/bgmulti.png%5Bimg%5D)
(http://s27.postimg.org/q02ju3rqr/bgdialog1.png)
(http://s16.postimg.org/ybkasdsth/bgimage.png)
(http://s28.postimg.org/le1h5t64d/brightsimple.png)
(http://s1.postimg.org/fj41wwqbz/wavex.png)
(http://s8.postimg.org/stbrf8hfp/windowimage.png)
You've already got a great look going for this hack and hdma, now that it's so easy, just adds that extra bit of visual flair to your levels.
and if you aren't too hot on using uberasm manually, THIS new addon for lunar magic
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=73510
(http://i.imgur.com/PAqS7pN.png)
With the addons, you can now just copy and paste any uberasm code into your level directly from within lunar magic. The only time you directly have to patch uberasm seperately is if the code effect tool gave you specifies between level main code and level init code.
The addon also has a cool function of making layer 3 MUCH easier to use also.
(http://i.imgur.com/d0AmNnt.png)
Just thought I would mention these awesome new tools. It makes little things that add a lot of flavor to your hack very easy to implement.
Last compliment: I also love it when castlevania maps make their way onto the overwold! Keep up the good work!
Don't worry, I'm using effect tool and uber ASM already, the hdma used in aftermath was generated via those tools, as were a few level effects.
The layer 3 one will also be used, mostly for the few levels in which either gimmicks or plain difficult to use tilesets force the useage of layer 1 and 2. Haunted Halloween (using Jazz Jackrabbit haunted graphics) will probably need it, as will the blizzard level.
And thanks for the compliments/other comments, much appreciated! For that, may as well post these new pictures, from a level called Military Nightmare:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/militarynightmare1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/militarynightmare2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/militarynightmare3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/militarynightmare4.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/militarynightmare5.png)
If they look familiar, it's because I was given them by JudgeSpear, the creator of Mushroom Kingdom Fusion and Super Mario Fusion Revival, and said tiles were used in a level in said game called Military Warzone.
All of this looks really promising! How many levels were you planning on making this hack?
Also, the mario party advanced map and custom bosses also? missed those the first time but awesome! Wish I knew people that could make custom bosses, ha ha. oh well. Good luck! I hope you see it out to completion.
QuoteAll of this looks really promising! How many levels were you planning on making this hack?
About sixty or so levels. I don't have an exact number, but going on thirty of those have been shown in some form already.
QuoteAlso, the mario party advanced map and custom bosses also? missed those the first time but awesome! Wish I knew people that could make custom bosses, ha ha. oh well. Good luck! I hope you see it out to completion.
Custom bosses are not that difficult a thing to include in SMW hacks. SMW Central has tons of them:
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&s=smwsprites#filter
Additionally, I've also got a ton from Japanese sources (like much of Brutal Mario's ASM) and exactly one person who is willing to make bosses and sprites specifically for this game.
So yeah, hope that helps.
Nice graphics modifications! Looks like it's going to be a pretty fun hack. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Grimlock on August 28, 2014, 11:54:40 PM
Nice graphics modifications! Looks like it's going to be a pretty fun hack. :thumbsup:
Thanks, your comments are most appreciated.
There's a lot more cool stuff I haven't shown off yet though.
Wow, even if it's going to be a hard game, I can't deny how awesome those levels look, especially the levels based on the Castlevania games. Those just made my day.
Quote from: NinjaTurtle82 on August 29, 2014, 09:02:00 PM
Wow, even if it's going to be a hard game, I can't deny how awesome those levels look, especially the levels based on the Castlevania games. Those just made my day.
You'll be happy to know it probably won't be a ridiculously hard game. I plan to keep the difficulty at a reasonable level this time around, having learnt from my mistakes in a few past past projects.
And hey, thanks for the positive feedback!
Quote from: CM30 on August 29, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
You'll be happy to know it probably won't be a ridiculously hard game. I plan to keep the difficulty at a reasonable level this time around, having learnt from my mistakes in a few past past projects.
And hey, thanks for the positive feedback!
That's good to know, personally I most enjoy nice graphics modifications with mild difficulty in a hack. Really though it's best to have a variety of difficulty, every now and then throw in a difficult level or area. The art of level design creating an immersive atmosphere is most important, of course balancing difficulty is part of level design. BUT the one thing that trumps all is "fun factor", as long as you think it'll provide a fun, interesting, entertaining experience then your good to go.
Quote from: Grimlock on August 30, 2014, 09:41:00 AM
That's good to know, personally I most enjoy nice graphics modifications with mild difficulty in a hack. Really though it's best to have a variety of difficulty, every now and then throw in a difficult level or area. The art of level design creating an immersive atmosphere is most important, of course balancing difficulty is part of level design. BUT the one thing that trumps all is "fun factor", as long as you think it'll provide a fun, interesting, entertaining experience then your good to go.
Well, I hope you won't be disappointed here. The difficulty is reasonable (with the odd more difficult level here and there) and the atmosphere is very, very different to anything in any SMW hack ever made.
Some new stuff:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/jellyfishbay1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/jellyfishbay2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/factorylevel.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/industrialfactory2.png)
oh wow, that last screenshot! GRAVY!
Nice that you like it! The tiles are the same as used in a MKF level called Industrial Nightmare.
You seem to be getting a lot of graphics from pc mario engine games. I also saw your list of suggestions on hacking ideas.
The castlevania sotn 16 bit hack could probably work using something like super metroid as a base. That community is great at manipulating the physics in that engine so I assume it could actually be done. Some color compromises would have to be made but, as you've said, shown, and done, it's possible. Some of the bosses might need to be downscaled but who knows when shit like this is possible:
http://youtu.be/Xx-oNUud0Qk?t=7m5
EDIT: for some reason, this link is borked. Go to 7:50 for my example.
I'm more interested in your suggestion of using metal slug assets from mario fusion. Do you really think there's enough room for all the exgfx that would be required to do that in Super Mario World? I honestly don't (shit, I couldn't even get Mario's Wacky Worlds foreground graphics to fit) but there was one level in the unfinished ASMT2 that kinda proves me wrong, seen here:
http://youtu.be/1ViJxBRF3O0?t=6m10s
The other two (Wario Land 4 and Super Mario Country) seem easy to do, with compromises of course but yeah, they could be done. For proper Wario graphics, you will either have to do one of two (maybe three) things though.
Option A (aka, easy option): Use powertool. You can make the character about doubly as big and use independent exgfx for player graphics, but there's a downside. It glitches out the yoshi berries (not the biggest of deals to make new ones though in lunar magic using exanimation) and the upwards walking animation on map. They both still work but they look wrong and, even If you replace the berries, the visual glitch on the map is so annoying that when I use powertool in my hacks, I tend to lean towards not even using an overworld. That may just be an example of how bad my OCD is moreso than how bad the glitch is though.
Option B (HARDEST option): Create custom asm code for how the player graphics are read. I'm not capable of this nor can I give you any helpful suggestions past knowing that that's possible. I know, I suck.
Option C (the big maybe): Wait for dyzen to be finished. It's new and it seems amazing. The patch uses a new method for dynamic sprites which sounds bad (all those dynamic sprites made already are useless with this) but it's more than that. Not only will dyzen allow you to convert those sprites manually, but it will also let you create your own dynamic sprites (or NON-dynamic. That's right. The SMW hacking community may finally get that long sought after sprite creator tool). How does this help you with making a playable Wario? Well, from the creator's last post concerning what will be released in two months (not sure why two months specifically. Is another c3 around the corner, ha?), it may replace power tool also:
"- Support for your own player (only the graphic routine)."
Unless I'm taking that out of context? I hope I'm not though, because as is, power tool is amazing for being able to add new types of Mario gameplay, but it's simply incomplete. Like 85% done and, as far as I can tell, Bio, the creator, said he was going to fix those things but has gone under radio silence on it since then. It's a shame. So far, I've made custom Cat Suit Mario suit, Bunny Suit Mario and a new Frog Suit as well. They all work amazingly well in gameplay but yeah, to get that capability, power tool asks you to scarifice too much, in my opinion.
Anyways, good luck on this, sir! I hope you eventually realize all of your mario world dreams. If you need busy work help ripping graphics, hit me up. I'm actually really good at that, ha.
Quote from: Jonesy47 on August 31, 2014, 06:02:23 PM
You seem to be getting a lot of graphics from pc mario engine games. I also saw your list of suggestions on hacking ideas.
The castlevania sotn 16 bit hack could probably work using something like super metroid as a base. That community is great at manipulating the physics in that engine so I assume it could actually be done. Some color compromises would have to be made but, as you've said, shown, and done, it's possible. Some of the bosses might need to be downscaled but who knows when shit like this is possible:
http://youtu.be/Xx-oNUud0Qk?t=7m5
EDIT: for some reason, this link is borked. Go to 7:50 for my example.
I'm more interested in your suggestion of using metal slug assets from mario fusion. Do you really think there's enough room for all the exgfx that would be required to do that in Super Mario World? I honestly don't (shit, I couldn't even get Mario's Wacky Worlds foreground graphics to fit) but there was one level in the unfinished ASMT2 that kinda proves me wrong, seen here:
http://youtu.be/1ViJxBRF3O0?t=6m10s
The other two (Wario Land 4 and Super Mario Country) seem easy to do, with compromises of course but yeah, they could be done. For proper Wario graphics, you will either have to do one of two (maybe three) things though.
Option A (aka, easy option): Use powertool. You can make the character about doubly as big and use independent exgfx for player graphics, but there's a downside. It glitches out the yoshi berries (not the biggest of deals to make new ones though in lunar magic using exanimation) and the upwards walking animation on map. They both still work but they look wrong and, even If you replace the berries, the visual glitch on the map is so annoying that when I use powertool in my hacks, I tend to lean towards not even using an overworld. That may just be an example of how bad my OCD is moreso than how bad the glitch is though.
Option B (HARDEST option): Create custom asm code for how the player graphics are read. I'm not capable of this nor can I give you any helpful suggestions past knowing that that's possible. I know, I suck.
Option C (the big maybe): Wait for dyzen to be finished. It's new and it seems amazing. The patch uses a new method for dynamic sprites which sounds bad (all those dynamic sprites made already are useless with this) but it's more than that. Not only will dyzen allow you to convert those sprites manually, but it will also let you create your own dynamic sprites (or NON-dynamic. That's right. The SMW hacking community may finally get that long sought after sprite creator tool). How does this help you with making a playable Wario? Well, from the creator's last post concerning what will be released in two months (not sure why two months specifically. Is another c3 around the corner, ha?), it may replace power tool also:
"- Support for your own player (only the graphic routine)."
Unless I'm taking that out of context? I hope I'm not though, because as is, power tool is amazing for being able to add new types of Mario gameplay, but it's simply incomplete. Like 85% done and, as far as I can tell, Bio, the creator, said he was going to fix those things but has gone under radio silence on it since then. It's a shame. So far, I've made custom Cat Suit Mario suit, Bunny Suit Mario and a new Frog Suit as well. They all work amazingly well in gameplay but yeah, to get that capability, power tool asks you to scarifice too much, in my opinion.
Anyways, good luck on this, sir! I hope you eventually realize all of your mario world dreams. If you need busy work help ripping graphics, hit me up. I'm actually really good at that, ha.
Thanks for your post! Unfortunately, most of the stuff I posted in ROM Hacking Ideas were just that... ideas. Things I think are possible and would be interesting, but which haven't been done yet and which I wouldn't have the time to do.
As for your comments...
Wario graphics have actually been done. A friend of mine on Youtube made a hack called Wario Land SNES (or similar), which had a 32 x 32 pixel Wario player going through a whole game based on Wario Land 1, complete with the same overworld, graphics, music, enemies and bosses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LalzpPnfDGw
He also ported this Wario Land Shake It theme song. I use in my own hacks as a switch palace song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7af_ukDWK4
As for Wario Land 4 specifically... Well, I ripped just about every background from the game, about 3/4 of which are now on SMW Central. Whole areas based on the game exist in my past mods, with some being based on...
Crescent Moon Village
Hotel Horror
Toy Block Tower
The Big Board
Domino Row
Doodle Woods
Pinball Zone
The Curious Factory
40 Below Fridge
Arabian Night
Mystic Lake
Entry Passage
Golden Passage
etc
I've also failed to rip tiles from Wildflower Fields and Monsoon Jungle. The former because I just couldn't get them to look nice/work well in SNES palette/tile limits, the latter because the tiles don't seem to follow a logical 16 x 16 grid.
As for whether Metal Slug tiles fit... well, yes:
(http://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/metalslugstuff.png)
There's also a whole level in Mario's Christmas Adventure with Metal Slug Advance content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOR0dlUSCU
For Castlevania Symphony of the Night content, I'll probably use some of it in the final world in this game, but not remake any exact levels.
QuoteYou seem to be getting a lot of graphics from pc mario engine games.
I don't get this. Do you mean the Jazz Jackrabbit stuff or the Castlevania Rondo of Blood stuff?
QuoteUnless I'm taking that out of context? I hope I'm not though, because as is, power tool is amazing for being able to add new types of Mario gameplay, but it's simply incomplete. Like 85% done and, as far as I can tell, Bio, the creator, said he was going to fix those things but has gone under radio silence on it since then. It's a shame. So far, I've made custom Cat Suit Mario suit, Bunny Suit Mario and a new Frog Suit as well. They all work amazingly well in gameplay but yeah, to get that capability, power tool asks you to scarifice too much, in my opinion.
I plan to use PowerTool, if possible. Whether AddMusic K will allow it is another question entirely, since it's mostly only been designed with Lunar Magic, BlockTool, SpriteTool and itself in mind, screw anything else. I really want Hammer Mario and Tanooki Mario and stuff in this game.
QuoteAnyways, good luck on this, sir! I hope you eventually realize all of your mario world dreams. If you need busy work help ripping graphics, hit me up. I'm actually really good at that, ha.
Thanks! Out of curiosity, do you have any examples of graphics you've ripped? Because if you're up for some really hard stuff to rip, there are those tiles from Jazz Jackrabbits Haunted and Holiday Hare expansion packs I want to use:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VCPNt0A2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD0d3nIvNjI
I've resigned myself to considering the backgrounds impossible to have on a SNES, but the foregrounds seem possible if you can manage the colours. My Hellfire Haunt and Aftermath tilesets are from this series.
On the other hand, if you want something more reasonable, well, maybe some stuff from a few more obscure SNES games could help. I'm using the graphics from the mansion level in Bonkers for a world 6 or so boss level, so those could be nice to see ripped, if only to save me some time. Maybe same with the haunted house tiles from Tiny Toon Adventures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YOtntm86Ww
But I guess it depends what's possible.
Wow, those metal slug rips...those are amazing.
When i was talking about pc mario engine games, I meant like mushroom kingdom fusion.
As far as examples of my graphics ripping, here's a few:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a_00002.png)
This one is ripped from Super Princess Peach. I finished it a literal day after I found someone else version on smw central. Youll notice little differences in mine, like the black outline around the trees with definition or that said trees can merge with the foreground.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00004.png)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00005.png)
These are ripped from a Super Mario 3D World tileset on MFGG. It needs palette work but it's ok.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00002.png)
I ripped this background from Super Ghouls n Ghosts.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00001.png)
I ripped this background from Bad Dudes the arcade game for my hack, Super Mario Bros. The Movie: The Game.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00000.png)
I ripped this foreground from Sonic 1.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00003.png)
And this last one, I ripped from Ryu's Stage in Street Fighter II.
Lemme see what I can do with Jazz Jackrabbit 2 and Tiny Toons...
Quote from: Jonesy47 on September 01, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
Wow, those metal slug rips...those are amazing.
When i was talking about pc mario engine games, I meant like mushroom kingdom fusion.
As far as examples of my graphics ripping, here's a few:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a_00002.png)
This one is ripped from Super Princess Peach. I finished it a literal day after I found someone else version on smw central. Youll notice little differences in mine, like the black outline around the trees with definition or that said trees can merge with the foreground.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00004.png)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00005.png)
These are ripped from a Super Mario 3D World tileset on MFGG. It needs palette work but it's ok.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00002.png)
I ripped this background from Super Ghouls n Ghosts.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00001.png)
I ripped this background from Bad Dudes the arcade game for my hack, Super Mario Bros. The Movie: The Game.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00000.png)
I ripped this foreground from Sonic 1.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/Jonesy4774/a-Copy_00003.png)
And this last one, I ripped from Ryu's Stage in Street Fighter II.
Lemme see what I can do with Jazz Jackrabbit 2 and Tiny Toons...
Nice graphics rips! Pretty amazing if I say so myself, especially the Sonic 1 and Street Fighter graphics.
But yeah, if you want to help (or anyone else wants to help), the halloween and christmas graphics from Jazz Jackrabbit can be found here:
http://jazzjackrabbit.net/DJ/WebJCS/
They're called 'Haunted House' and Holiday Hare (although Holidaus would be a good alternative for the second if it's utterly impossible).
JEEZUS, THESE JACKRABBIT GRAPHICS ARE HUGE!
Got em ripped to bin format but, so far, my colors are way off ( I can fix that easy enough) but yeah...I dont know if this will even START to fit, ha. Not a bad exercise in crazy, though...
Quote from: Jonesy47 on September 03, 2014, 12:45:24 AM
JEEZUS, THESE JACKRABBIT GRAPHICS ARE HUGE!
Got em ripped to bin format but, so far, my colors are way off ( I can fix that easy enough) but yeah...I dont know if this will even START to fit, ha. Not a bad exercise in crazy, though...
Yep.
That's what is difficult about ripping them... they use a 32 x 32 grid instead of a 16 x 16 one.
They could theoretically be resized to 16 x 16, but that would take forever and be hard as hell given the detail present.
Ah well. The haunted house ones are at least possible to assemble easily enough (as in, once ripped). The Holiday Hare ones? God knows. Maybe the site I linked didn't do a perfect job of ripping them, but even assembling those tiles is the stuff of nightmares!
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World 2 castle preview:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/gravitygauntlet1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/gravitygauntlet2.png)
Bonus points if you can name the original game!
Well, it's been a while. But oh well, some new stuff:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/magic.png)
Experimenting with reverse gravity (in one level) and screen flipping (in another).
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00000.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00001.png)
Level based on Spring Man's level in Mega Man 7. Gimmick being that enemies will also be affected by springs.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00002.png)
Early preview of world 4 castle, water themed.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ricebeach.png)
Based on Rice Beach in Wario Land (background from Wario Land 4).
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/castleofillusiontiles.png)
Tiles from Castle of Illusion. Unlike in my previous work, these ones will be animated like in the original game. I might also try and get the cake graphics from that game as well, along with the Christmas inspired ones from World of Illusion.
Edit: Beta title screen:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/superawesomebetatitle.png)
Bump, to show a few miscellaneous things:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00003.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/bossintro.png)
Three guesses what the second one is for.
As for other stuff... well, Lunar Magic 2.3 just came out. So I'm gonna take advantage of its new overworld capabilities (two more gfx files per map!) and its built in support for layer 3 backgrounds/graphics. Like for heavy rain and snow on top of photo realistic level backgrounds without sacrificing anything...
That all looks pretty amazing, coming along nicely. I can't wait to see more. :)
Quote from: yoyotheyoshi on September 25, 2014, 04:55:01 AM
That all looks pretty amazing, coming along nicely. I can't wait to see more. :)
Thanks, it's much appreciated. Some minor updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00000.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00001.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00002.png)
Tiles for first picture from Actraiser 2, used at end of forest castle level. Second and third picture show semi final part of clocktower level in final world, tiles from Symphony of the Night.
backgrounds look really varied and impressive, hoping that a demos released soon, backgrounds are cool but gameplay's the most important part of a hack for me.
Quote from: drunkenjesus on October 07, 2014, 01:37:48 AM
backgrounds look really varied and impressive, hoping that a demos released soon, backgrounds are cool but gameplay's the most important part of a hack for me.
Don't worry, the gameplay's always being kept as the main priority. It's one of the reasons the game/hack is taking a while, because I'm trying to make the level design fun and the graphics look nice at the same time.
Thanks for your feedback.
Unfortunately, unless I can get help with some ASM for a few sprites/bosses, this game likely won't be finished.
It'll still be released in some form (likely a demo with all normal levels and about 50% of the bosses included), but... my last two ASM coders have left the hobby altogether and I now need to find a replacement or something.
Sorry about that.
Quote from: CM30 on October 17, 2014, 09:23:33 PM
Unfortunately, unless I can get help with some ASM for a few sprites/bosses, this game likely won't be finished.
It'll still be released in some form (likely a demo with all normal levels and about 50% of the bosses included), but... my last two ASM coders have left the hobby altogether and I now need to find a replacement or something.
Sorry about that.
Aw, I'm sorry to hear that :(
I hope things work out.
If they don't though, you should indeed be sure to still make a release of it, even if it's incomplete.
Quote from: 607 on October 19, 2014, 02:56:11 PM
Aw, I'm sorry to hear that :(
I hope things work out.
If they don't though, you should indeed be sure to still make a release of it, even if it's incomplete.
Don't worry, there will be a release of this game, even if it has to be in demo form. I'm not going to disappoint people by not releasing an actual game.
Some very minor updates:
Lost Vikings themed puzzle level (background is from Meteos on DS):
(http://talknintendo.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_1_2_7258.png)
(http://talknintendo.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_1_2_4285.png)
(http://talknintendo.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_1_2_9155.png)
Starting a level based on Drill Dozer:
(http://talknintendo.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_1_2_1147.png)
Other updates coming soon will be the first castle (with a new tileset from an unexpected arcade game) and redone ice cavern and 'dark' cavern levels.
Quote from: CM30 on October 17, 2014, 09:23:33 PM
Unfortunately, unless I can get help with some ASM for a few sprites/bosses, this game likely won't be finished.
It'll still be released in some form (likely a demo with all normal levels and about 50% of the bosses included), but... my last two ASM coders have left the hobby altogether and I now need to find a replacement or something.
Sorry about that.
Your project would be way more appealing to people with the skills to help if it was mostly done so that way they knew their effort would be put to good use, so releasing a demo like you mentioned asking for help would probably work out well
There are two reasons this project hasn't had a demo yet:
1. The levels made are not in any logical order. The status is basically most of world 1, most of world 2, some of world 3, much of world 4, much of world 5, etc. I like to have demos feel like they could be 'complete' rather than skipping over a bunch of stages.
2. Not polished enough yet.
There's also another one (trying to keep attention low until the release date), but there's a really good reason for that.
And hey, a few updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00004.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00005.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00006.png)
Demo should be available by Christmas, with up to seven worlds of content.
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It's not over yet. Some new updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00007.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00008.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00009.png)
New 'dark' sprite graphics, for evil levels and ghost houses. Skulls are from Castlevania, clowns from a Castlevania DS game and ground skull things from Guardian Legend.
The ghost skulls are obviously Boos, the ground skulls are obvious Goombas and the clown is a custom sprite.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00010.png)
Big Chomps.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00013.png)
Bigger Chomps
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00014.png)
Incoming Chomps
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00016.png)
Early part of Hands On Hall level, with Japanese aesthetics.
Oh look, minor gfx updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00017.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00018.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00019.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00020.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00021.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00023.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/MariosNightmareQuest_00024.png)
Yay for Wario Land 4 tiles on SNES!
Bump for some pre Christmas level and graphics updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/hellfirehaunt1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/hellfirehaunt2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/w1castle3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/w1castle1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/w1castle2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/darkcave.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/icecave1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/forest1.png)
And a more Christmas themed update:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/christmas1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/christmas2.png)
Yes, a Christmas themed level with content from Jazz Jackrabbit and Daze Before Christmas.
Looks good. I like it when people mod the graphics in SMW. Haha that would be awesome if you got ahold of Jazz Jackrabbit graphics.
Quote from: 90s Retro Gamer on December 30, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
Looks good. I like it when people mod the graphics in SMW. Haha that would be awesome if you got ahold of Jazz Jackrabbit graphics.
I did get Jazz Jackrabbit tiles. The Christmas ones are from the first Holiday Hare expansion, the graphics for 'hell' are from a hell themed level in one of the games (or maybe mods) and the tiles for Aftermath are from a Jazz Jackrabbit custom graphics resource site.
I also plan to use the haunted house tiles for the halloween level:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbqqWn7NEjM
Either way, you've not seen nothing yet. The screens in this topic only show a tiny sample of the levels and their themes...
Usually I don't get hyped for SMW hacks but from the looks of those screenshots, this looks crazy good! Can't wait for a demo/release, as this looks waaaaaay more awesome then most of the stuff I've seen trolling around SMW Central (though there are some amazing hacks over there)
And Super Mario Bros. The Movie: The Game = WHERE IS IT!?!?!?!?!? lol. Seriously though, it's about damn time someone did this. :) Mario even looks like the guy from the movie, it's great. I don't know which project I'm more excited to see, as the mental image of a john leguizamo sprite for Luigi just popped into my head.
All in all, keep up this insane awesome-train a-chuggin. I'll definately play the hell out of both.
Thanks! Glad that you like it.
Also, for anyone interested, an overworld preview:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/overworldpreview.png)
That's only the first five worlds, of course. The Toad Houses are (in most cases) placeholders for other level tiles. And the levels themselves have a fairly high amount of content.
Duuuuuude, that is a BEAUTIFUL world map. Like, official Nintendo level world map.
Very good job!
Quote from: Jonesy47 on January 04, 2015, 04:41:24 AM
Duuuuuude, that is a BEAUTIFUL world map. Like, official Nintendo level world map.
Very good job!
Thanks! Some submaps I designed:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/desertworld.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/forest.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/hauntedworld.png)
On another note... the music in the game is absolutely incredible. Here are some videos of the songs I'm using:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI3mpI41fuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYE6Ai8KXaw
And downloads for the rest (don't think the porter has a Youtube channel)
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=10366
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=10370
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=10374
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=10369
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=76280 (IL MANIERO SPETTRALE theme, cold, mansion)
Some updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ghostship.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/palace1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/palace2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/palace3.png)
And some idea updates:
Beehive related level: Complete with barrel cannons, pegs (from King of Swing), Zingers, cartoony DK enemies and maybe a chase scene involving King Zing.
Bridge to Hell: A bridge level, a bit like Silent Span in Mario Fusion Revival or the bridge in Mario End Game. Except with the gimmick of the level getting darker and more gloomy as you proceed.
[Inside of a creature]: Mentioned in my tileset request topic, but yeah. You know the drill.
Abandoned Toad House: A trek through a Toad House that's fallen into decay after a monster attack. Maybe with ghostly undead Toads as enemies, for the creepy factor.
Royal Crypt: A mix of the level from the Minish Cap, the Bottom of the Well and the Shadow Temple from Ocarina of Time. You get to use the Lens of Truth to reveal hidden obstacles and fake walls and floors by pressing the L or R button.
[Something from the Wind Waker]: Not sure what, but some level or another. I was considering something based on either Dragon Roost Cavern or the Wind Temple, but it's unknown yet.
Stone Tower Temple: Based on Majora's Mask, with the gimmick being able to flip the building upside down.
Hyrule Castle: Self explanatory, references Link to the Past/Between Worlds, Twilight Princess, etc.
Wow, this hack seems like it is very promising. :thumbsup:
Is this hack compatible with bsnes or a real console?
I'm asking because some other hacks I've seen are sometimes unplayable or have issues with
sound and/or graphics and I'd really like to enjoy this one on the proper thing (or bsnes).
Quote from: SC on January 19, 2015, 05:16:26 PM
Wow, this hack seems like it is very promising. :thumbsup:
Is this hack compatible with bsnes or a real console?
I'm asking because some other hacks I've seen are sometimes unplayable or have issues with
sound and/or graphics and I'd really like to enjoy this one on the proper thing (or bsnes).
It's not done, but from my testing with BSNES, I haven't encountered any issues.
For instance, here's part of level 1 on BSNES, with no graphical (or sound) problems:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/bsnestest.png)
This was taken in the accuracy version of the emulator. Should be good enough for a SNES. It should also be (mostly) fair in terms of difficulty.
Cool, I'm glad it works flawlessly. Now I just can't wait to play it! :banghead:
Quote from: SC on January 20, 2015, 09:49:45 AM
Cool, I'm glad it works flawlessly. Now I just can't wait to play it! :banghead:
Thanks! It will be good when it's done, just keep in mind that a game like this one takes a pretty long time to finish. Especially given how for the most part, I try and rip every single tileset and enemy sprite graphics set myself. And then have to design a level which is actually fun to play rather than merely technically impressive (the issue with many 'fancy' hacks in the last decade or so).
A few... minor updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ToadHouse.png)
A Toad House. One of these will not be quite as it seems...
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/Illusion1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/Illusion2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/Illusion3.png)
Illusion level (ghost house). In these rooms, a Yoshi's Island/New Super Mario Bros style tunnel effect has been implemented; going nearly a fake wall causes it to disappear until you exit the other side.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/illusion4.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/illusion5.png)
Part 2 of the above level. Note the use of layer 1 and 2, which alternate in interactivity. So it appears Mario goes between the background and foreground, like Donkey Kong Country Returns or Tropical Freeze, or Wario Land for Virtual Boy.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/icecastle1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/icecastle2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/icecastle3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/icecastle4.png)
Ice castle level. Melt the blocks and water to progress, before solving a ridiculously complex puzzle and fighting a certain ice themed boss from the Paper Mario series.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/jumpingBossBass.png)
Watch out, Boss Basses can jump vertically now!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/RiceBeach.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/RiceBeach2.png)
More Rice Beach.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/watercastle1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/watercastle2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/watercastle3.png)
Part 1 of the water world's castle. Watch out for Super Mario Land skeleton fish and sea horse type enemies!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/watercastle4.png)
More of the water castle, aka the sewers. Not shown; a giant fish that chases Mario and tries to blast him with fireballs (or in a few cases, run him over).
And some level spoilers:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Seems like you are doing some good progress! Don't you have an idea of when will be possible for us to play a demo, no matter how limited it may be? :happy:
Quote from: SC on February 11, 2015, 04:40:47 AM
Seems like you are doing some good progress! Don't you have an idea of when will be possible for us to play a demo, no matter how limited it may be? :happy:
A demo should be available by about the middle of this year. This is because I plan to make sure the demo has a significant amount of content, akin to the Brutal Mario demos and stuff you can find online (rather than being a mere one or two world sampler).
It will probably have the first five worlds (the normal levels for the grass land worlds, ice world, ocean world and military war zone area), the secret levels for the military war zone, grass world and ocean world, the desert world in its entirely, the forest world with the exception of the secret level and boss, most of the toy land world and most of the haunted forest world. The clocktower level should also be available for a final world preview.
It will probably not have the final world (for the most part), the final boss or ending, most secret levels or the Hyrule themed world, because the technical side is rather complicated.
And because I'm considering what to do for the Hyrule Castle level, including whether to turn it into a top down view Zelda game mixed with shoot em up mechanics rather than platformer (mostly because of the limited tilesets).
But a demo will be out this year, once I've got Talk Nintendo and Wario Weekly sorted out.
That's lots of content for a demo!!! :o Seems more like a near-release beta right?
It just came to my mind...
How hard is it to add MSU-1 music tracks to it? Do you think you can handle that? ::)
There's an MSU1 patch available, and I'm planning to release an alternate version that uses it. It would have a more limited soundtrack, but it would have much higher quality songs, likely the following:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
You may notice a slight pattern... it's because I really like Mario & Luigi Dream Team, and modern 3DS games in general. Maybe a little too much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqbfK23Rv6E
Other than that... there are a lot of fancy things I plan to include really. A new and very different status bar, a different pause menu, a sound test, a different bonus for 100 coins, a different bonus game, shops, a level up system, custom power ups... Heck, I'd love to add someone like Wario as an extra playable character, though that could be overly difficult. Either way, I do like shiny things, and MSU1 is definitely possible.
Okay now. This is officially epic! :thumbsup:
Some minor updates:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/blizzard1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/boomboom.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/japanesehouse.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/krool.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/piranhaplant.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/rebelbase1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/rebelbase2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/rebelbase3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/tank1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/tank2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/tank3.png)
There's still a lot more to show, believe it or not.
Well, another late content bump:
(http://talknintendo.com/img/toylandmap.png)
(http://talknintendo.com/img/toyland1.png)
(http://talknintendo.com/img/toyland2.png)
(http://talknintendo.com/img/toyland3.png)
(http://talknintendo.com/img/toyland5.png)
As you can see, mostly pictures of the toy themed world.
Mario in Castle Of Illusion ???
Really great graphics. Keep up the good work.
My first complain, lol :P
Quote from: CM30 on February 20, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/krool.png)
It would look much better if it were a real pixel art sprite. :'(
Quote from: tryphon on March 04, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
Mario in Castle Of Illusion ???
Yep. The graphics are going to be animated too.
Maybe I might use some of the enemies from that game's Toy Land level too, and the gravity flipping.
Quote from: MathUser2929 on March 05, 2015, 09:47:10 AM
Really great graphics. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. The screenshots are still only about 40% of what's in the game though. The more interesting stuff is yet to come.
Quote from: SC on March 05, 2015, 10:32:00 AM
My first complain, lol :PIt would look much better if it were a real pixel art sprite. :'(
Good luck with that. I'm nowhere near good enough to try and convert K Rool's boss sprites into pixel art equivalents, and you're probably not gonna find too many people willing to go that fair either (especially as this is a really complex boss with a lot of graphics frames).
Still, I plan to at least make it look fancy; the boss can apparently animate the background at about the halfway point in the battle. So I'll try and use that trigger for thunder/lightning and missile style explosions in the background.
K. Rool looks fine.
The whole hack is a mish mash of pixel art styles so it works.
Can't wait for the finished product!
Thanks! On another note, someone released a really cool music port recently, and its being used here. Guess what it is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7UC_qAXNQg&feature=youtu.be
Yeah, Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon music on a SNES. Thank you music porter on SMW Central! I've also requested the theme for Treacherous Mansion, hopefully that gets ported as well. That's this one, if you've forgotten:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cG_J9rcefw
But yeah, other stuff is more important. Next up, fixing the graphics in a few levels and working on some others.
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Starting on a Zelda level:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00000.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00001.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00003.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00004.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00005.png)
It's not 2D platformer style Zelda either. Oh no, this level will basically be a full scale traditional Zelda dungeon starring Mario/Luigi.
There'll be keys to find, blocks to push, items to use, spike traps to dodge, Wizrobes firing magic, Darknuts and Link to the Past style soldiers to fight and a big boss battle at the end vs some Zelda character or another, maybe Ganon/Ganondorf or Vaati.
All while this music blares out the speakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uR7doemZD0
It's quite the cool finale to a world in which Mario explores Hyrule, conquers the darkest crypt using the Lens of Truth, climbs Stone Tower Temple and buys items from Ravio in the shop. With a few references to Link's Awakening, the Oracle games, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and The Wind Waker in there for good measure. Yes, it's completely against Zelda canon, but it's a dream, okay? Like Hyrule Warriors?
Quote from: CM30 on March 09, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Starting on a Zelda level:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00000.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00001.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00003.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00004.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/HyruleCastle_00005.png)
It's not 2D platformer style Zelda either. Oh no, this level will basically be a full scale traditional Zelda dungeon starring Mario/Luigi.
There'll be keys to find, blocks to push, items to use, spike traps to dodge, Wizrobes firing magic, Darknuts and Link to the Past style soldiers to fight and a big boss battle at the end vs some Zelda character or another, maybe Ganon/Ganondorf or Vaati.
All while this music blares out the speakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uR7doemZD0
It's quite the cool finale to a world in which Mario explores Hyrule, conquers the darkest crypt using the Lens of Truth, climbs Stone Tower Temple and buys items from Ravio in the shop. With a few references to Link's Awakening, the Oracle games, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and The Wind Waker in there for good measure. Yes, it's completely against Zelda canon, but it's a dream, okay? Like Hyrule Warriors?
What the Hell, man?! How have you achieved that? Who coded all that awesome stuff into SMW?! :o
Somehow, there's a romhacking hero involved? ::)
You gotta be trolling me...
It is definitely an odd choice to make, especially since SMW's engine is not optimized for this... at all, but if you feel you can make it work without it feeling clunky or bizarre than I would love to see this part of the project finished.
Quote from: Grimoire LD on March 16, 2015, 10:09:43 PM
It is definitely an odd choice to make, especially since SMW's engine is not optimized for this... at all, but if you feel you can make it work without it feeling clunky or bizarre than I would love to see this part of the project finished.
It shouldn't feel that clunky or bizarre. Although trying to implement some bosses that work in this style could be challenging. Anyone know a really good ASM coder?
And the patch for this type of level has actually been around a few years now. It's just that no one's ever really done anything interesting with it before. I mean, this was its debut back in 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iH9pZI1-UM
Since then... nothing. No one even considered a Zelda or Secret of Mana or Pokemon style level based on this engine before.
A few updates. Progress is a bit slow, but still:
Toy Land level preview:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/toylevelpreview.png)
The picture does not do it justice to be honest. Cause about half the tileset animates.
Some of Stone Tower Temple:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/stonetower1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/stonetower2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/stonetower3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/stonetower4.png)
Gonna try and edit some of the Zelda GFX to be more 2D like.
Next up? A level based on this, probably:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7cNkNsLQAY
Minor proof it's not entirely dead:
(http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/media/wariobosspic.png)
(http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/media/platform.png)
(http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/media/kingfin.png)
Is that a boss?
Have you used all the entire palette on it? If there was a way to better blend those shades of colour...
But I guess it would require an incredible amount of work for an HDMA effect on it or using another type
of Super Famicom graphic with more available palette colours, like BG? Not feasible, it seems.
Looks too cartoonish, though maybe I am worrying for nothing and it looks good when playing.
Anyway, that Wario sprite seems suspicious, too. :thumbsup:
Quote from: SC on April 16, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
Is that a boss?
Have you used all the entire palette on it? If there was a way to better blend those shades of colour...
But I guess it would require an incredible amount of work for an HDMA effect on it or using another type
of Super Famicom graphic with more available palette colours, like BG? Not feasible, it seems.
Looks too cartoonish, though maybe I am worrying for nothing and it looks good when playing.
Anyway, that Wario sprite seems suspicious, too. :thumbsup:
I'm trying to set up the Wario graphics as we speak, although I'll probably have to exanimate it as well, cause no SNES sprite on the planet can have as many frames as Wario did in Wario Land 4 with only about 2 ExGFX files.
As for the Kingfin boss sprites... keep in mind that:
1. That's a test room, so it doesn't look as menacing as the actual environment.
2. It's one of those sprites which wasn't really drawn for a SNES game, so trying to make it's colours work exactly right is pretty difficult. It's also the only sprite of said boss I could find, so hey, I'm going with what's available.
I just wanted to say your project is looking pretty awesome :thumbsup:. I've always liked crossover themed graphics hacks. I'll be watching this one & looking forward to its completion!
Quote from: Grimlock on April 18, 2015, 01:14:32 PM
I just wanted to say your project is looking pretty awesome :thumbsup:. I've always liked crossover themed graphics hacks. I'll be watching this one & looking forward to its completion!
Thanks!
A demo will hopefully be made available in about two months.
Excellent news! I was hoping for that since I saw this awesome project! :crazy:
A few minor ExGFX showcases:
(http://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/MariosNightmareQuest_00001.png)
(http://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/MariosNightmareQuest_00002.png)
Zombified enemies, as from here:
http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5566
Creepy eh? Also, I may have carol, the maker of Brutal Mario, helping with some programming for this project. Which is quite cool given that Brutal Mario is one of the most well known mods out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INa41RSwiCc
Wait a second... Carol might help you?!?
I thought he left SMW hacking scenario and for that reason never finished Brutal Mario World...
Quote from: Tenkarider on April 26, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
Wait a second... Carol might help you?!?
I thought he left SMW hacking scenario and for that reason never finished Brutal Mario World...
He has definitely not left SMW hacking. I've been in talks with him for a few months now. Heck, he released a new demo of Brutal Mario complete with a new level 1-1 about a week ago:
http://brutalmario.wikia.com/wiki/1-1_Demo
I've been working to supply some ExGFX for Luigi's World levels, and just discussing the future of Brutal Mario in general.
Wow, that's even recent! will be finally the time to see finished his masterpiece?
Even your work sounds nice, anyway.
Except custom map, did you also worked on custom sprites/bosses/etc. until now?
Hey, I am Thirteen1355, from the Brutal Mario Wiki. I was curious about your hack, so I went to look for it here.
Quote from: Tenkarider on April 26, 2015, 09:28:15 PM
Wow, that's even recent! will be finally the time to see finished his masterpiece?
Even your work sounds nice, anyway.
Except custom map, did you also worked on custom sprites/bosses/etc. until now?
I'm not the programmer for the game. That job used to go to dahnamics, and is now split between a few other people on SMW Central. But yes, lots of exclusive sprites and bosses and resources are being coded right now, and quite a few equally impressive ones have already been added.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on April 27, 2015, 05:56:35 PM
Hey, I am Thirteen1355, from the Brutal Mario Wiki. I was curious about your hack, so I went to look for it here.
Hey, nice to see you here! What do you think about the hack/game from the pictures provided?
is there some screenshot that shows some sprite/boss?
It looks really good, from what I have seen!
I will certainly give it a try when it is out!
Thank you! Wonder if this game will ever end up with a wiki at one point, ala Brutal Mario and Mushroom Kingdom Fusion!
If Carol helps with your programming, it will certainly end up on the Brutal Mario wiki!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on April 29, 2015, 08:33:29 AM
If Carol helps with your programming, it will certainly end up on the Brutal Mario wiki!
That will be absolutely awesome. I mean, it can be like how the VIP series got an article there for the same reasons...
Exactly!
Carol has contributed to the VIP series, too!
Does Raocow actually know of Brutal Mario's existence?
I think he never let's played the game.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on April 30, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
Exactly!
Carol has contributed to the VIP series, too!
Does Raocow actually know of Brutal Mario's existence?
I think he never let's played the game.
He knows. He doesn't like it much:
Quote from: raocowAlso Brutal' Mario's level design is shit.
So I doubt he'll ever play Brutal Mario. He probably will play this game though.
Hmm, but maybe he will like the new levels?
Who knows?
And I hope he will let's play your hack (and maybe even Brutal Mario someday).
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on April 30, 2015, 04:47:04 PM
Hmm, but maybe he will like the new levels?
Who knows?
And I hope he will let's play your hack (and maybe even Brutal Mario someday).
I assume that's why carol hasn't released a full version yet, right? To use the criticism he's gotten over the years to make a fun as well as impressive, asm-wise, hack? That's the impression I got from the little tiny demos hes released lately but maybe I'm just being a wishful thinker...either way, AWESOME that carol is helping you, CM30!!! Can't wait for the end result!
Quote from: Jonesy47 on April 30, 2015, 04:56:17 PM
I assume that's why carol hasn't released a full version yet, right? To use the criticism he's gotten over the years to make a fun as well as impressive, asm-wise, hack? That's the impression I got from the little tiny demos hes released lately but maybe I'm just being a wishful thinker...either way, AWESOME that carol is helping you, CM30!!! Can't wait for the end result!
Well, I did give him a link to a review (by myself) which criticised Brutal Mario's level design. Perhaps he's learnt from that.
But yeah, I'm excited for what kind of stuff he'll code too.
Hmm, I think the level design wasn't that bad. Only the first and second Worlds weren't really well designed. After those Worlds, the level design increased.
That's what I think.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 01, 2015, 11:10:06 AM
Hmm, I think the level design wasn't that bad. Only the first and second Worlds weren't really well designed. After those Worlds, the level design increased.
That's what I think.
I agree.
Still it's hard to notice flaws in the level design, after you start crossing the other worlds, which are extremely cool in most of their aspects... too much busy to enjoy the game (yet i dunno if that's a good thing or not :P)
To be honest, I can see why the later levels might not be seen as brilliantly designed. They're fun, and they're better than the early ones by far. But they're still often a bit flat and overly linear, even with the nice graphics, music and programming stuff.
But hey, carol's new demo levels are fantastic, and the level design in this Mario hack will hopefully be even better. I plan to make a game that not only looks and feels awesome, but has awesome level design too.
On another note... should I replace the typical grass tiles in this game with these?
http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb¶m=03&c=1&id=31202
It's Kopejo's new grass land tileset... and given that he made the grass land tileset I use in this ROM hack, I'm almost tempted to update to his new version of the sprite sheet.
That new tileset looks awesome but could you show a side by side, comparing the two?
The hills with eyes in the new set are GREAT tho. TAKE those, even if you keep the rest of the tiles the same as before.
The current one I'm using:
http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb¶m=02&c=1&id=29835
The new one:
http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb¶m=02&c=1&id=31202
Hmm, I like the old one more, but the new one looks more 'Mario-ish.'
I prefer the new one, too. :thumbsup:
Okay then, I can switch the tilesets at a later time.
More important however is trying to redo the less interesting levels in the game, since a few stages (mostly early game, but a few midgame ones too) feel like they could be designed in more interesting ways.
Edit:
So, anyone interested in contributing to this ROM hack? We currently need the following:
1. Anyone capable of porting music, so we can get songs from more recent games (as well as custom compositions) included.
2. Anyone willing to draw original graphics, for the many things out there that don't have any sprite sheets or tilesets available. This is especially true of the Hyrule World, since 2D platformer style Zelda graphics are extremely rare. As are sprites of ununusal enemies like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask minibosses.
3. Anyone willing to make actual levels, since well... there are quite a few blank spots that need to be designed and older levels that need improving.
So yes, anyone interested? I'd rather not have to do just about everything myself, again.
A Hyrule world?!
Insane!!
You mean with porting music: inserting music, or giving music a SMW soundfont?
Which character sprites from Zelda do you need?
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 03, 2015, 02:36:23 PM
A Hyrule world?!
Insane!!
You mean with porting music: inserting music, or giving music a SMW soundfont?
Which character sprites from Zelda do you need?
Mostly porting music, since I can insert music easily with AddMusicK.
As for character sprites... somewhat complex ones. Namely:
http://zeldawiki.org/Ganon
http://zeldawiki.org/Garo_Master
http://zeldawiki.org/Gomess
http://zeldawiki.org/Vaati
http://zeldawiki.org/Yuga
Yeah, I already expected you can insert music without any problems. It is really easy with those new Addmusics.
Vaati is always cool.
But Yuga? Meh... I'm not into the new Zelda stuff.
Majora's Mask enemies/bosses are a great idea, I think. But maybe you should replace Yuga with Agahnim.
I will look what I can do for sprites.
I was going to include Aghanim as a boss, but I thought four bosses in one level was too many.
And I like more modern Zelda games, including Link Between Worlds. So I referenced them whenever needed. This entire Hyrule area is basically a 'one level per Zelda game' shout out world. You've got the first level as a reference to Zelda in general, Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures. You've got the Royal Crypt to represent both Minish Cap and Ocarina of Time. Stone Tower Temple is obviously based on Majora's Mask. Dragon Roost Isle will be a Wind Waker reference, Hyrule Castle a reference to A Link Between Worlds, Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past and The Minish Cap in one level and a bonus level will be based on Link's Awakening.
More levels may come in the future.
22 years later, Link's Awakening is still my favorite 2D Zelda (and 2nd favorite overall after Wind Waker)
Is it going to be in color? Personally, I think it would be awesome for it to have the original green pea-soup palette :happy:
Quote from: Bobolicious81 on May 03, 2015, 04:02:00 PM
22 years later, Link's Awakening is still my favorite 2D Zelda (and 2nd favorite overall after Wind Waker)
Is it going to be in color? Personally, I think it would be awesome for it to have the original green pea-soup palette :happy:
To be honest, it's likely it'll be in colour, since the rest of the game is and it'd look even more weird to have a monochrome level in a game with colourful, detailed graphics. But maybe I'll have the green pea soup palette as a gimmick. Like, the world changes when you hit a switch, and it also switches between colour and green monochrome graphics at the same time.
Hmm, alright.
Link's Awakening is the best 2D Zelda game, Majora's Mask being the best 3D, I think.
Quote from: CM30 on May 03, 2015, 04:24:40 PM
To be honest, it's likely it'll be in colour, since the rest of the game is and it'd look even more weird to have a monochrome level in a game with colourful, detailed graphics. But maybe I'll have the green pea soup palette as a gimmick. Like, the world changes when you hit a switch, and it also switches between colour and green monochrome graphics at the same time.
That's a great idea! You think it will be easy to implement?
Regarding sprites for the Zelda world: would it be reasonably technically possible to replace Mario with Link on that world, maybe even including some skill (though the latter would probably involve lots of ASM :-\)?
I'd like this hack to be as epic as possible! I hope I am not making you feel pressed, though. :P
Quote from: SC on May 03, 2015, 07:05:21 PM
That's a great idea! You think it will be easy to implement?
Regarding sprites for the Zelda world: would it be reasonably technically possible to replace Mario with Link on that world, maybe even including some skill (though the latter would probably involve lots of ASM :-\)?
I'd like this hack to be as epic as possible! I hope I am not making you feel pressed, though. :P
Colour switching isn't too difficult, it's on/off switch activated exanimation. I literally replicated the effect in about five minutes just now.
Probably not going to replace Mario with Link on a single world map. However, if anyone ever invents a multiple playable character system, I'll consider a Mushroom Kingdom Fusion style ensemble cast with Link as a potential alternate playable character. So you'd have Mario, Luigi, Wario, Link and maybe someone else.
And you'd be able to play through everything with whoever you choose.
I see...
I wonder if doing some research on the SMB2 remake (inside the All Stars package) would be a good starting point to getting that done later on SMW?
Quote from: SC on May 04, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
I see...
I wonder if doing some research on the SMB2 remake (inside the All Stars package) would be a good starting point to getting that done later on SMW?
Probably not, the code in these games isn't exactly something you can transfer (it's been attempted, but rarely worked). And even if so, I'm not a programmer, so it'd be up to my collaborators.
So, anyone out there know enough about SMW hacking that they want to help out? We've got loads of beta testers, but pretty much barely anyone else...
Quote from: CM30 on May 04, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Probably not, the code in these games isn't exactly something you can transfer (it's been attempted, but rarely worked). And even if so, I'm not a programmer, so it'd be up to my collaborators.
So, anyone out there know enough about SMW hacking that they want to help out? We've got loads of beta testers, but pretty much barely anyone else...
Ah, yes. I should have guessed someone else attempted that before.
Well I am not a spriter, nor a SPC700 music programmer or Super Famicom ASM guru. I could help if it were a RISC MIPS R3000 like the PlayStation, but...
I guess my only way to support you here will be to judge your creative and design work on the hack until I try a demo.
You might want to create a topic in the Help Wanted Ads (http://www.romhacking.net/helpads/) section, though.
You might have some luck if you ask for help there, or even other romhacking forums (specially SMWCentral).
Though you probably guessed that already.
I've added a quick ad, although I'm not sure how much it'll help.
As for SMW Central, I've asked there quite a bit. Unfortunately, given the obvious places to ask have been used, I guess the only thing left is to start approaching some of the last well known names in the community and asking for contributions. I suspect that might not go as well as hoped.
Where do all those big projects get teams anyway? Like, Newer Super Mario Bros Wii, Mushroom Kingdom Fusion or whatever others there are?
Well, both Kingdom Fusion and Newer Wii aren't SMW hacks. Maybe it is just harder to find people in that category.
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I have just seen your review of Super Mario World The Lost Adventure Episode 3. I have played the first two episodes, which were pretty good. I look forward to playing this one!
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Quote from: Chpexo on May 07, 2015, 02:57:28 PM
Hey I read your help wanted ad and would like some more details on the pixel art and music. What particular type of art would you want from Luigi's Mansion and the newer Zelda games? I am also a music composer I can make some .spcs for you but I have no idea how to even use AddMusicK; it's also not very friendly to use. If you have the MIDI files I can surely make some .spcs for you you so a music porter can look at it. The music composition should take a little under an hour if the MIDIs can import into my program but the art should take some time depending on how much you want and how complicated it is.
I'm after boss sprites for some of the following characters and bosses:
http://www.mariowiki.com/Tough_Possessor
http://zeldawiki.org/Yuga
Unfortunately, because no sprite sheets or ripped models exist, it's proving pretty hard. Maybe the 3DS game hackers out there could find some of the original resources to base the new graphics on, but it's most likely anyone interested will have to draw their own versions based on screenshots and videos.
What's more, each sprite would have to:
A: Use no more than 15 colours and transparency
B: Fit into some variant of a 16 x 16 collision box. So either 16 x 16, 16 x 32, 32 x 32, 48 x 48, 64 x 64, etc.
Still, if there's a bright side, it's that there's no particular set up needed for the graphics, nor a minimum/maximum number of frames (since the sprites haven't been coded yet).
As for music, it's mostly SMW ports I'm interested in. MIDIs can be directly translated to ports fairly easily, and having an SPC doesn't really help here.
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I think it won't be hard to find a sprite for Yuga. When he changes himself into a painting, he is in 2D! You could use his painting sprite.
http://zeldawiki.org/File:YugaDrawingALBW.png
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Quote from: Chpexo on May 09, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
I got bored. The painting sprite was easy enough to reproduce. I might just do a 360 and help you out with the project more!
(http://i.imgur.com/yfcyv6x.png)
Hey, that looks pretty good! Definitely a good wall merge/teleport sprite for a boss!
In other news, I'm probably going to have split this hack into parts, because technical limitations are making it too difficult to fit everything in one ROM. So unless I remake the game as a non hack (which is perhaps a bit beyond my skill level), it's plausible this hack will have to go the Super Mario World the Lost Adventure route.
Still, don't feel too sad. Regardless of what happens, this change will lead to more levels and content, to make either each part feel more complete or to fill out a 150 odd level fan game.
Heh, you remember my Brutal Mario edit? I couldn't put that massive work of Carol into one ROM, so that one was in three parts, too.
That Yuga sprite looks very good! It gives me a real Snes feeling!
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Looking good! All I need now is one that faces different directions and doesn't look paint like, for before he attacks. *
* The different directions are because it's this level:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/DarkHyruleCastle1.png)
Also, what kind of intriguing concepts are planned for this game's later worlds? Find out... at a later date. Just a hint; space levels aren't as rare as they were before, and some of the other levels in that world are even stranger and more over the top than that. Or for another hint, each section (or if it becomes a full fan game, each main part of the game) ends in an epic disc final boss style battle.
Either way, it will be one long string of 'freaking hell, what just happened?' as it approaches the endgame...
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Okay, that looks great! Good job! I'll definitely use it, and get a boss made based on it.
Great!
Awesome! Chpexo's spriting skills are very nice.
His pants are indeed blue. It's just the game's lighting settings that make it look like green sometimes.
So yes, I'm still planning some new levels and concepts for this, but I'm not going to work on them for a while now. I will say however that it's likely part 2 might make up for the original lack of content with a space themed world and another still under classification.
Space is always a thing.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 10, 2015, 03:45:05 PM
Space is always a thing.
Especially in ROM hacks and fan games.
But is cyberspace usually a thing in those?
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Hmm, cyberspace is a thing in Mega Man.
It would be cool to have such a thing in SMW. Although I think how it is carried out is what counts (I am getting stuck with my grammar here).
I rather have a water world with beautiful graphics, custom or from other Snes games, than a boring cyberspace level without anything unique. But the concept of cyberspace is a cool thing. Although cyberspace can pretty much be anything inside a computer realm. I remember the Lost Adventure (part 1 I think) having a cyberspace level. VIP 5 certainly has one too.
I like water worlds :D
I hate hate hate water worlds, usually. :P
*Sigh*...
Poor water worlds. Everyone hates them...
There's already a sort of water world. It's world 4.
That said, it's deliberately designed so only a few levels are entirely water based, with two out of five or six in said world being more beach/shore levels. Because SMW's swimming mechanics aren't very good.
Yeah, the mechanics were decent.
Shore/beach is also a great water-based theme!
Are you using DK Country graphics? Those are the best platformer graphics the Snes can offer!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 12, 2015, 05:18:47 AM
Yeah, the mechanics were decent.
Shore/beach is also a great water-based theme!
Are you using DK Country graphics? Those are the best platformer graphics the Snes can offer!
Unfortunately, I'm mostly not using Donkey Kong Country graphics in this project, simply for stylistic reasons. They look amazing, but they also kind of clash a lot with 16 bit graphics, so I'm avoiding them unless I have to (K Rool as a boss is one of the exceptions here).
As for future plans... well, I might make one of the later worlds based on Kitchen Island from Wario Land 1 and 2. So you'd have levels based on Mt Tea Pot, Sherbet Land, Stove Canyon, SS Tea Cup, Uncanny Mansion, Mysterious Factory, Parsely Woods/Maze Woods and Syrup Castle. Note the lack of Rice Beach; this is deliberate because I already have a Rice Beach level elsewhere.
Sorry, I have never played the Wario Land games.
Yeah, Donkey Kong Country graphics don't always fit in.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 13, 2015, 06:10:23 AM
Sorry, I have never played the Wario Land games.
Yeah, Donkey Kong Country graphics don't always fit in.
As someone who runs WarioForums.com (http://warioforums.com), this disappoints me. I mean, the Wario Land games are some of the greatest 2D platformers ever made, and to be honest... I'd probably put some of the better ones above even the best of Yoshi's Island or the NES/SNES era Mario games.
Wario Land 4 was probably my best influence ever. Seriously, the way every little detail was made different in each level and how each level was filled with fresh ideas and original graphics and music and what not... that's what I took inspiration from for much of this game and my past works.
As for Donkey Kong Country... it pains me not to include so many references to this great series (though Zingers, King Zing, Kaptain K Rool, maybe Squawks and a few others are included in NPC roles), but the graphics not only go against the general aesthetic of pretty much every other SNES game out there, but are also extremely difficult to rip and assemble, perhaps more so than anything else on a 16 bit system. If you want a nightmare, try and take one of the tilesets based on the games from SMW Central and make a level out of the 2 or 3 whole map16 pages of almost impossible to decipher tiles. Pretty much the only 'usable' one is the old bramble tileset, and even that looks ugly as heck in its currently ripped form.
Yeah, you are certainly right about the DKCountry thing. Although the VIPs did do a pretty good job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM6Nt_Ggg8s&list=PL60AF7858BFACA212&index=11
Jesus, Raocow...
Ah, I hear Powell!
I will give Wario Land a try once, but not now. It looks pretty good. The best platformer to me is still Mega Man, though.
And I really don't like Yoshi's Island. It is probably not a bad game, but it is not my game. Did you already know I don't like SMW itself either? I like Mario Bros. 3 much more. They removed so much cool things from that game in SMW.
True, although the VIP versions of the Donkey Kong Country levels are significantly toned down from the originals tileset wise. I mean, I used their Toxic Tower tileset before, and while it was pretty good, it still looked a bit off because of that.
But yeah, give Wario Land a try! The people on my site can recommend a good one to start with.
Heh, I don't think so!
I will start with 1 and end with 4 so I exactly get to know which one is the best!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 13, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
Heh, I don't think so!
I will start with 1 and end with 4 so I exactly get to know which one is the best!
But you'll have to play first Mario Land 1 and 2, or else you'll miss its deep storyline! :P
Yeah, Wario Lands are awesome! The first one I saw was 3, and then later got to play 4. I have played them all at least a couple times since then.
And yeah, as you said, SMB3 had much more innovative and/or interesting ideas than SMW.
Yet SMW was a brilliant, colourful and shiny technical/gameplay launch demo for the Super Famicom.
Ah, Mario Land 1+2.
Alright!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 13, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
Heh, I don't think so!
I will start with 1 and end with 4 so I exactly get to know which one is the best!
Don't forget the hidden gem that is Wario Land for Virtual Boy!!
Quote from: Jonesy47 on May 14, 2015, 06:11:51 PM
Don't forget the hidden gem that is Wario Land for Virtual Boy!!
Also known as that game every sane person wishes would be finally added to the Virtual Console... yet which Nintendo seems to completely ignore for no real reason.
God, I actually want to try that game on day. Legally if possible.
Sigh...seems like a no brainer to add the few Virtual Boy games to the 3DS virtual console...
So much wasted potential...
Quote from: CM30 on May 14, 2015, 06:22:22 PM
Also known as that game every sane person wishes would be finally added to the Virtual Console... yet which Nintendo seems to completely ignore for no real reason.
God, I actually want to try that game on day. Legally if possible.
Holding your breath on Nintendo's virtual console is a good way to die lol but I agree. You'd think the 3DS would have gotten Virtual Boy vc on LAUNCH but yeah, Nintendo gonna Nintendo.
If you ever decide to try the non-legal (im not gonna call emulation illegal. It may be the only thing I view as a gray area in life) approach, I cannot reccomend retroarch highly enough. With the right shaders, there's NOTHING it cannot accomplish. Since I've delved deeply into messing with it's settings, I have almost completely stopped playing new video games anymore. The old games look SO close to what I remember as a child, big and majestic on my HD screen, I could cry.
That, mixed with THIS:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125
and I'm officially done with paying for something subpar nor willing to play the waiting/hoping game when it comes to MANY retro classics I'm sure will never be released. I mean, the Wii had 8 years and a monster userbase and they STILL only got a solid percentage of greats up (No yoshi's island or star fox is a SIN. I know, super fx copyright bs, blah blah, whatever. FIX IT. PAY WHATEVER RANSOM YOU NEED TO TO GET THOSE GAMES UP!). They have no incentives really to release them all nor do they seem concerned with that.
NOW, if they ever told me that all my wii u purchases would transfer to the next console, I'd be onboard, bad fps and colors be damned, but until then, Im in love with retroarch.
I mean, look at this crt fidelity
(http://i.minus.com/iTtRbQQcBz9Re.png)
(https://d.maxfile.ro/quzrjzsbqy.png)
Soooooo beautiful...
and with that, I will allow this thread to right itself to the topic of your awesome hack!
RetroArch is?
Seems to be some sort of multi system emulator. Personally, I'm sticking with seperate ones for each system (like ZSNES, SNES9X and BSNES for SNES games and SMW hacks).
Back on topic... no this isn't dead. Just on a short break until I get some other stuff done, with an aim of releasing something by late June and more in the coming few years.
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So... remember this. My plan for this game is that part 1 will be ready by June 28th, hopefully in time for C3 this year. This should include the first seven worlds, about 60 or so unique levels and some of the best production values on the SNES.
Epic? You bet it'll be!
That part thing is actually even better, just because it means not everything can be stuffed into one ROM; there is so much!
Just like Final Fantasy 7.
You forgot the best part; these parts aren't just their own games, they're intrinsically linked.
There's a world in part 2 unlocked by opening the path in part 2, going back to part 1 with the same save file, beating a secret level that's now accessible and then going back to part 2 when on the new submap.
This is possible because in a SNES emulator, you can use the SRAM and save state files from one game and then use them on a completely different one. God knows how anyone could adapt that to a console (I assume it'd work a bit like Banjo Kazooie's scrapped 'Stop n Swap' mechanic), but it's interesting.
On another note... part 1 is more cheerful, part 2 is partly post apocalyptic and part 3 is more dramatic and endgame like (because it is the final world). This is because at the last level of part 1, Mario fails to stop a dimensional collapse level event and the world gets mostly obliterated (well okay, it's a dream world so it's all fake, but eh go with it). The very first level you start on is the destroyed ruins of the previous first level, with a mostly depressing atmosphere and maybe this music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e056R97svz8
The levels actually start falling apart more and more as you get through the second part of the game. And then a ridiculously overdramatic boss battle occurs...
QuoteThis is possible because in a SNES emulator, you can use the SRAM and save state files from one game and then use them on a completely different one. God knows how anyone could adapt that to a console...
Easy. SNES Powerpak gives you the option to choose which save file to load.
I do this with Zelda hacks all the time. Had a demo that wouldn't play correctly and I wanted to explore the game further so I loaded an original ALttP ROM where I switched the contents of some chests, got what I needed and then went back to playing the hack with the new save file with the items I wanted.
Quote from: SunGodPortal on May 21, 2015, 06:36:57 PM
Easy. SNES Powerpak gives you the option to choose which save file to load.
I do this with Zelda hacks all the time. Had a demo that wouldn't play correctly and I wanted to explore the game further so I loaded an original ALttP ROM where I switched the contents of some chests, got what I needed and then went back to playing the hack with the new save file with the items I wanted.
So it is possible. Nice to know.
Maybe it can be useful for anyone who actually wants to try this on real hardware.
I want to remind you it is Stop 'N Swop, not Stop 'N Swap.
You know Banjo Kazooie, the first game I ever played. That's good.
Wow, that part stuff is indeed possible! Maybe I could have used it in my Brutal Mario edit.
I recently just switched from Super Metroid Redesign (a complete map/gameplay/ASM overhaul of Super Metroid) to an improvement hack of the original (Project Base, very cool). The almost end-game SRM file worked just fine.
To be honest, I don't really like Majora's Mask final hours for a post-apocalyptic theme.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 22, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
I want to remind you it is Stop 'N Swop, not Stop 'N Swap.
You know Banjo Kazooie, the first game I ever played. That's good.
Wow, that part stuff is indeed possible! Maybe I could have used it in my Brutal Mario edit.
I recently just switched from Super Metroid Redesign (a complete map/gameplay/ASM overhaul of Super Metroid) to an improvement hack of the original (Project Base, very cool). The almost end-game SRM file worked just fine.
To be honest, I don't really like Majora's Mask final hours for a post-apocalyptic theme.
As someone who also likes the Banjo Kazooie series (well, the first two), I agree they're great games. I've actually got the Witchyworld song included in this mod somewhere.
For the part stuff, yes it is cool. I'm surprised no actual games or mods ever used it. Seems like a really easy way to have multiple disc games on a SNES.
If you don't like the use of the Majora's Mask song, then don't worry about it, the only place it's used is in a destroyed level in part 2 of the game. Maybe for some other minor uses, like a 'running of time' theme in Stone Tower Temple.
Oh, not Nuts and Bolts!!!
Don't worry too much about the MM song. It is just one level. It is a good song, but I just have the feeling it doesn't fit with a post-apocalyptic theme.
Witchyworld was a fun one. I have never seen something as beautiful as Jolly Roger's Lagoon.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 23, 2015, 07:19:17 AM
Oh, not Nuts and Bolts!!!
Don't worry too much about the MM song. It is just one level. It is a good song, but I just have the feeling it doesn't fit with a post-apocalyptic theme.
Witchyworld was a fun one. I have never seen something as beautiful as Jolly Roger's Lagoon.
I may actually make the theme park level loosely based on Witchyworld as well as using the music. Got to have a few Rare references in there.
As for the post apocalyptic music not fitting, I think it does. I just wanted something different. Cause the nuclear meltdown level already uses the other 'post apocalyptic' theme I had; Hollijolli Village from Mario & Luigi Partners in Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb4bz4kkNhM
So yeah. On another note, I've now been working on my new website, https://gamingreinvented.com.
Why is this relevant? Because one of the features I have planned in future will be fan project hosting, for automated websites for fan games, ROM hacks, fan films, etc. One of those will be for this game, with forum discussions about it (most of which will be in the supporter only forums).
I also plan to open up a git repository or some sort of version control system for the games.
Should be cool, right? If you like the idea, we'd love your support!
Just checking your site for a bit, and it has quite a few interesting things.
But was Ocarina of Time 2D actually completed?
I thought it was cancelled a long, long time ago?!
I want that game!
The Partners in Time songs sounds good.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 24, 2015, 05:50:31 AM
Just checking your site for a bit, and it has quite a few interesting things.
But was Ocarina of Time 2D actually completed?
I thought it was cancelled a long, long time ago?!
I want that game!
The Partners in Time songs sounds good.
Ocarina of Time 2D... is an interesting case.
There's literally been about 20 attempts at it.Out of those, about ten lost interest, one or two got legal notices, one author faked their death in a car accident to get out of it and a bunch of others collapsed as people walked away from the project. It's kind of like the Defence Against the Dark Arts class in Harry Potter; absolutely everyone who attempts it is cursed.
Heh, I heard about the fake car accident while doing my 'homework' on the internet.
I have seen two projects of it. Though the beta restoration project would have been even cooler.
I like Majora's Mask more than Ocarina. The best Zelda game in my opinion.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 24, 2015, 01:00:12 PM
Heh, I heard about the fake car accident while doing my 'homework' on the internet.
I have seen two projects of it. Though the beta restoration project would have been even cooler.
I like Majora's Mask more than Ocarina. The best Zelda game in my opinion.
Better than a link to the past? I dunno about that...
The beta restore is something I keep hoping someone else will start back up. Maybe not that proper n64 plugins are being worked on again, thereay be more interest in 64 hacking? We can all dream...
Quote from: Jonesy47 on May 24, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
Better than a link to the past? I dunno about that...
The beta restore is something I keep hoping someone else will start back up. Maybe not that proper n64 plugins are being worked on again, thereay be more interest in 64 hacking? We can all dream...
There was actually a few attempts at resuming the URA Zelda project in the last few years or so. Not sure if any are still going, but it's possible the project is gonna make a comeback. Will that please you?
I even remember coming across one on the GCN in the last few months, a revival if you will.
I have seen two projects of it. Though the beta restoration project would have been even cooler.
If Zeth wasn't a sociopathic jerkass, then we'd still have such a project...
Sorry, but I found A Link To The Past to be the most bland game in the series, except for the original.
Link's Awakening: Best 2D Zelda. Period.
A Link To The Past. I have played the game twice (I even uploaded dungeon playthroughs on Youtube) and I have to say the game is just bland. Repetitive music, boring design. Weak story (or no story, actually).
There was a Game Boy styled Ocarina of Time 2D game at one point. You probably would have liked that if it was ever finished.
Either way, for Mario's Nightmare Quest, you'll still like the Zelda world regardless of what game you like. I mean, there's a Koholint Island level for the Link's Awakening fans, and a Hyrule Castle level for the Link to the Past fans and others based on the Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Minish Cap, etc.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 25, 2015, 09:11:51 AM
Sorry, but I found A Link To The Past to be the most bland game in the series, except for the original.
Link's Awakening: Best 2D Zelda. Period.
A Link To The Past. I have played the game twice (I even uploaded dungeon playthroughs on Youtube) and I have to say the game is just bland. Repetitive music, boring design. Weak story (or no story, actually).
Yeeeeeah, I'm kinda of the sort that thinks Zelda having a story is a baaad idea. It has always taken away from the game in my opinion. The music and design of a link to the past are more subjective but I'll admit, links awakening is a hairs width away from being my favorite also. The fact that elements of it were drawn from twin peaks only makes it that much more awesome. To be honest tho it sounds like you don't like mainline zelda., more so the one off side stories.
Tho obtuse, I'd still take a link to the past over any and all of the 3d ilk but yeah, I'll stop now. This is so very far off topic. Thank you cm30 for adding in elements for all fans!!
Quote from: Jonesy47 on May 25, 2015, 03:49:02 PM
Yeeeeeah, I'm kinda of the sort that thinks Zelda having a story is a baaad idea. It has always taken away from the game in my opinion. The music and design of a link to the past are more subjective but I'll admit, links awakening is a hairs width away from being my favorite also. The fact that elements of it were drawn from twin peaks only makes it that much more awesome. To be honest tho it sounds like you don't like mainline zelda., more so the one off side stories.
Tho obtuse, I'd still take a link to the past over any and all of the 3d ilk but yeah, I'll stop now. This is so very far off topic. Thank you cm30 for adding in elements for all fans!!
Don't worry about it, it keeps the hype going while the game is on hiatus.
Once late next week is upon us, I should finally have new material about the game to post in this topic.
Yippee!
Hmm, I do like A Link To The Past, but only the gameplay. And even that doesn't always work well: Pegasus Boots you can't control, irritating ice floors.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 25, 2015, 05:32:17 PM
Yippee!
Hmm, I do like A Link To The Past, but only the gameplay. And even that doesn't always work well: Pegasus Boots you can't control, irritating ice floors.
Imposed gameplay limitations surely are the divide in most games. Your posion is my candy. I can see where you're coming from though, I just personally like the the limitations and Im sure Im not alone. Personal preferences are just that tho; personal.
I dunno. I think I've just been reading too many zelda forums lately praising majora's mask as the best zelda game ever. In a lot of ways, I agree. It's still the most original Zelda game SINCE a link to the past in the way that it adds a lot of new gameplay and shifts around the normal pacing most zelda fans are used to. These are all amazing tweaks but I just dont see zelda existing as it is now without a link to the past. It was the template for almost everything Zelda moving forward (ocarina of time may as well be a 3d remake to me).
A lot of what gets me about the majora's mask praise lately are people clamoring for a sequel set in termina using the mask system. While it probably wouldnt be a horrible game, why does it seem like no fan base anymore for anything can be satisfied with 1 of something? Why can we not just enjoy what we do have without trying to drip it dry until there's nothing left? the reason the concepts in mm were so fresh were because zelda had never done them before. For a sequel, that draw wouldnt exist...its just sad to me is all.
The worst is when people start talking about changing link entirely because the storyline says link is just an avatar. I could not disagree with this more. Not only is link more iconic as a single character moreso than any other nintendo mascot save mario, but it also shows how Nintendo bludgeoning together a haphazard storyline to try and please fans was a bad idea from the get go. The lore was NEVER the main focus of the developers, moreso just a way to get link into more crazy scenarios and for fans to take it so seriously to the point of changing zelda games into something that doesnt even represent zelda to me anymore is strangley infuriating. I wish I could time travel their brains back to 1988 when there were only two zelda games and they were drastically different to show them that the story really meant very little aside from the premise set up just to make you adventure in the first place. Past that, you were on your own. Up until Ocarina, that's pretty much all zelda games were and, as much as I love OoT, i feel like it ruined a lot of what made zelda zelda for me and the series still hasnt really course corrected itself. A link between worlds was kind of a nudge in the right direction tho I will say, and, to end this all on a hopeful note, Zelda U is looking MIGHTY interesting in that regard.
tldr: I love all the zelda games outside of cd-i and ds renditions. You aren't wrong in any opinion you have stated, I just have a weird apprehension to zelda fans online anymore.
I always found Majora's Mask a good game because of the time reset and how it massively improves replay value. I mean, what's the biggest problem about the structure of most Zelda games? My opinion is that it's how 'dead' the dungeons become once you've cleared them, and how hard it is to quickly replay part of the game that you enjoyed.
Majora's Mask fixed that. You reset time, you got to try any dungeon or sidequest you wanted again without losing your items or abilities.
And I thought that was great. Why should I have to start a whole new save file and replay 20 hours of gameplay just to get to try something I enjoyed all over again? Why didn't Wind Waker or Twilight Princess add something like a per dungeon or per sidequest reset button?
I don't like the idea of a direct Majora's Mask sequel though. It reminds me of the constant demands for stuff like Mario Sunshine 2, Mario Galaxy 3, etc. Part of what made those great was how they were original and different. They were unique. Nothing before was like them.
A sequel in the direct sense is just lazy. Let's not beat a dead horse and overuse the same world, characters and ideas in a mission pack like way. Instead, let's try and get a new Galaxy style revolution. A new Majora's Mask style revolution, etc. Something that's as great for fans now as those games were for fans then. Something which uses its only creative new ideas in interesting ways, tells a new story and has new characters, levels, etc.
And someone tell that to Hollywood too.
Back to SMW modding though... I'm probably gonna use these great ports in the space world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcg773BEILA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh52qgkK1Ek
I actually like the 'main' (Triforce, Ganon) Zelda games, but I like LA and MM more. It is just coïncidental that they both don't have anything to do with the main story.
And I agree with CM30: The replay value was wonderful. Not many people know the final boss room actually have Deku Flowers in the floor, allowing the player to try to defeat the final boss with Deku Link only!
I haven't found a Youtube video of it yet, unfortunately.
Heh, I remember using the Buoy Base sample for my SMW hack.
The soundfont really sounds like FF6! They sound really good!
Though I don't think Gusty Garden sounds very space-like. Buoy Base fits really well, though.
Could you maybe use this one in the game (not specifically for Space World):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUEStNge8s0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2Kkd3VIT4&feature=youtu.be
Talking about ALTTP, I made this simple edit of the boss theme in Hyrule Magic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPTlAcu_eMw
The Lufia one sounds familiar. Probably cause Mushroom Kingdom Fusion uses it. Same with the trailer for the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD7VWxHGU4o
But it's a nice music suggestion regardless.
I did send you two songs, if you didn't notice.
I have never played Lufia, but I sure like the song.
Wow!
I have heard of MKFusion, but I didn't know it was... THAT!!!
The other one is also pretty cool, though it sounds more like a good castle song. Maybe I'll save it til part 3.
And Mushroom Kingdom Fusion is pretty cool. The makers of the game have been sending some graphics every now and then, and have said they'll post a trailer of this ROM hack on their Youtube channel.
That's great!
But I have heard it doesn't run really well in Windows 8, and that they are rebuilding the game from the ground up?!
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Oh, but wait!
This is one of those cancelled things?!
No!
The game is being rebuilt. Don't worry about it. A new guy called Ferguelion is redoing it with a new engine and remade levels.
http://www.fusiongameworks.net/smf/index.php/board,56.0.html
They're also probably fixing it for Windows 8.
But this is getting really, really off topic now...
We so need some new people commenting in this topic!
Yeah, it is pretty sad other people aren't here.
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Still no one else...?
Either way, just a few days before I can continue this. And just about two days before I hope to officially launch my new gaming website.
Yeah!
I'll be waiting with baited breasts.
Quote from: Bobolicious81 on May 29, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
I'll be waiting with baited breasts.
I have no idea if that's a joke or a typo.
Huh?
Quote from: CM30 on May 30, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
I have no idea if that's a joke or a typo.
Yes. Yes it is.
Quote from: Bobolicious81 on May 30, 2015, 12:46:37 PM
Yes. Yes it is.
Which of the previous two choices? I guess both. :P
Sorry, I didn't get it at first so I had to search for it and I found this:
(http://store.trollart.com/image.php?type=D&id=651)
LOL
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CM30:
Can't wait to play a demo or something! :P
What's your design/hacking roadmap right now?
Can you provide a list of features (such as gameplay innovations like wall-jump, custom bosses, imported SPC music tracks or MSU-1 support, etc...) to expect or something? ::)
PS: I think there's been too much off-topic lately here... :'(
Roadmap? It's currently on hiatus until my new site launches. So til about Monday, which is also my birthday.
After that, I have one important date planned for the game:
June 19th
Also known as SMW Central's C3 date. A time where Mario modders and fan game and indie makers show off their work. I plan to release the first demo at that point. I was hoping for all of part 1 to be complete, but... one guy has put his level on hiatus til exams are over and I think my programmers are on a day off or something.
QuoteCan you provide a list of features (such as gameplay innovations like wall-jump, custom bosses, imported SPC music tracks or MSU-1 support, etc...) to expect or something? ::)
Feature list for part 1 (demo):
All custom graphics for every level (where necessary)
All custom soundtrack, most sampled
Custom sprites/enemies in most levels
Custom bosses for every castle or world boss level. Some (maybe a decent amount) of simple custom mini bosses in between.
Custom blocks
Custom map/overworld
Custom status bar
Custom Mario/player graphics
Maybe some sort of health system
About 50 decent levels, most of a reasonable length and difficulty level (with a few hard secret levels)
Be patient. It's about two weeks til you'll get a demo.
Wow, these two weeks are going to feel slow, boring, tedious, and painful... with both the waiting for this heavily content-packed demo and my own real-life duties.
But it will be a fun (and hot...) summer after that!!! :woot!: :crazy:
I wished for something more specific on that list, but I guess that will be secret and you don't want to spoil it to us. :-X
BTW, what will you expect us to report/criticize (if anything) from the upcoming demo?
And most importantly... am I asking too many questions? :P
Quote from: SC on May 30, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Wow, these two weeks are going to feel slow, boring, tedious, and painful... with both the waiting for this heavily content-packed demo and my own real-life duties.
But it will be a fun (and hot...) summer after that!!! :woot!: :crazy:
I wished for something more specific on that list, but I guess that will be secret and you don't want to spoil it to us. :-X
BTW, what will you expect us to report/criticize (if anything) from the upcoming demo?
And most importantly... am I asking too many questions? :P
If I posted more details, people would literally know everything about the game, from start to finish. I've already just about gave away at least half of what would have otherwise been major level/game plot twists...
But there will be lots of cool stuff to discover. After all, every time I give away a plot detail or level summary, that just inspires me to add two or three more to make up for it! It's already gone from fairly simple to ludicrously complex, but that's just because I like have a large number of wham episode style moments that shock the player more and more as the game goes on.
I welcome any feedback. Any.
Oh, it is gonna look very interesting now!
Those breasts are both beautiful and disturbing.
And the hack... Well, not disturbing, only beautiful!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on May 31, 2015, 03:23:36 PM
Oh, it is gonna look very interesting now!
Those breasts are both beautiful and disturbing.
And the hack... Well, not disturbing, only beautiful!
Well, the game is a bit disturbing as well. After all, it still has:
A level set in the aftermath of a nuclear meltdown
A Toad House inhabited by the undead with many killed Toads
The ruins of the Mushroom Kingdom after a war has reduced it to ruin and ashes
Ghostly enemies that look disturbing as hell.
I actually took those things in consideration after writing my last post :)
Nonetheless, it will be beautiful!
Exams, yeah. Can be pretty disturbing too.
I hope you submit all this custom stuff to smwcetral tho Id understand if you didn't....but I hope anyways!!
Quote from: Jonesy47 on June 01, 2015, 09:56:29 AM
I hope you submit all this custom stuff to smwcetral tho Id understand if you didn't....but I hope anyways!!
I will. I submitted everything from Endgame earlier this year.
Heck., this should prove how much I submit my graphics there:
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=submissions&user=10295
Quote from: CM30 on June 01, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
I will. I submitted everything from Endgame earlier this year.
Heck., this should prove how much I submit my graphics there:
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=submissions&user=10295
I meant more specifically the custom sprites/hacks but deeee-YAAAAAAMN, you have contributed a LOT of custom graphics!! Good Job! I think Ive unknowingly used a few of these before lol.
Quote from: Jonesy47 on June 01, 2015, 02:15:05 PM
I meant more specifically the custom sprites/hacks but deeee-YAAAAAAMN, you have contributed a LOT of custom graphics!! Good Job! I think Ive unknowingly used a few of these before lol.
The sprites are usually publically released anyway. ASM is not my strong point.
For those made on request, I usually ask any coders to release them to the public after the game has been released.
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Level 1 is being upgraded:
(http://www.gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-level-1-part-1.12/full&d=1433639846)
(http://www.gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-level-1-part-2.11/full&d=1433639846)
(http://www.gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-level-1-part-3.10/full&d=1433639846)
(http://www.gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-level-1-part-4.9/full&d=1433639846)
Looks awesome!
Sigh, I don't want to keep updating, but hey:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NewLevel2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NewLevel2Screen2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NewFortress.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NewFortress2.png)
I'm going to fix the status bar later. There's a much more urgent issue to fix first.
And that issue is?
QuoteAnd that issue is?
Above the time, I believe. I didn't notice it at first either. :)
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Quote from: Chpexo on June 07, 2015, 05:20:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2xuvffq.png)
*cringes*
Fixed. I think they need a better zoom level on this map16 editor, it's pretty hard to see minor pixel perfect mistakes like that one.
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They're by a user called Kopejo on Mario Fan Games Galaxy:
http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb¶m=02&c=1&id=31202
http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb¶m=02&c=1&id=31248
I'm pretty much using all his graphics in this game now. His item and pipe graphics are as great as the above tilesets.
Other than that, other graphics I'm using in the game are by a few other people. Like this Shikaternia guy, who made a whole ton of nice SMB 3 styled tiles:
http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb¶m=02&c=1&id=30023
Mario Fan Games Galaxy is really making this game awesome.
Great, just great!
Redid Piranha Forest level graphics:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/redonepiranhaforest.png)
It's now a ton more vibrant and fancy looking.
Should be done with world 1 in the next few days now. The castle will be easier, since I don't plan to change any graphics or level concepts whatsoever.
Beautiful!
How does World 1 castle look?
It's this level from earlier:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/w1castle3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/w1castle2.png)
Oh wow!
I have also now integrated this song into the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDn_uaOEWJ0
It's the new boss theme!
Oh, wow!
This one is really good!
A great edited version of the original!
Some airship (World 2 fortress) pictures:
(http://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-airship-1.17/full&d=1434233039)
(http://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-airship-2.18/full&d=1434233039)
(http://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-airship-3.19/full&d=1434233039)
(http://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/marios-nightmare-quest-airship-4.20/full&d=1434233039)
The background animates, a bit like in Super Mario Bros 3. This is followed by a vertical climbing section on airships and masts and rigging, and then a battle with Tryclyde.
Looks hard, like an Airship level should be.
Well, this tool is gonna make things a bit easier for this project:
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=78990
Just stick in an SPC file, and out comes a fully sampled music port which plays the original song in SMW format. Doesn't really loop the song (so it uses a ton more space), but it's good enough for the odd one off song, like something epic from the Donkey Kong Country series or Final Fantasy.
Wow, that's pretty interesting.
So you can insert every Snes song into your hack?
That's great!
Ihad many Spc's, but I converted them to Mp3 with Chun-Yu's tool.
FantasyAnime has many Spc soundtracks of the well known Snes Rpg's.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on June 20, 2015, 09:40:20 AM
Wow, that's pretty interesting.
So you can insert every Snes song into your hack?
That's great!
Ihad many Spc's, but I converted them to Mp3 with Chun-Yu's tool.
FantasyAnime has many Spc soundtracks of the well known Snes Rpg's.
Kind of, yes. They're not perfect ports (probably because they don't loop them properly and the tool doesn't let you cut off the intros in some cases), but you pretty much get extremely nice versions of the original songs that you can insert into the game at a drop of a hat.
I'm probably going to add some SNES songs that haven't been ported with samples.
I really like that!
But are they sounding like the SMW songs as well?
Yes.
On another note:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/floodedfortress1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/floodedfortress2.png)
Huh?
Is it underwater?
And is part 1 released?
Not yet. Had no real time to get everything done.
Of course, I also so want to include the new custom power ups and morph abilities released at C3... in at least one part.
C3?
.
Quote from: Chpexo on June 24, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
This has been bothering me for a while, the HP border doesn't have a wooden texture. Do you have an extra palette at hand or a brown to use? What's also bugging me is that the coin palette in the HUD shares the palette with the health meter, meaning the coin constantly changes color. I assume you're low on color :-/
Quote from: CM30 on June 07, 2015, 04:28:08 PM
I'm going to fix the status bar later. There's a much more urgent issue to fix first.
So it will eventually be fixed, I guess.
To be honest, I might not even use that health bar. It's not AddMusic K compatible at the moment, so I might change to another one with a different style/layout. Like Mega Man health or Metroid health or Super Mario Bros 2 health or a standard health bar.
But what does C3 mean?
Does it resemble E3? Isn't it something from SMWCenral I recently saw on their home page?
Okay, this is freaking awesome.
Now testing the power ups patch from SMW Central and it's fantastic! Now I'll be able to hopefully use the following powerups in this game:
Hammer Suit
Raccoon Leaf
Tanooki Suit
Blue Shell
Boomerang Flower
Ice Flower
Rocket Boots
Seriously. As per a test ROM:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/test_00000.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/test_00002.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/test_00003.png)
I also want to use these morph sprites:
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=79034
Cause god, imagine Yoshi's Island style transformations and custom power ups in one game!
If you thought this game couldn't get more epic, you thought wrong!
On another note, I'll soon be posting the game on the projects system on https://gamingreinvented.com. So if you want to follow progress, sign up and wait for it to be posted. It'll probably have a URL like https://gamingreinvented.com/project/marios-nightmare-quest.
Wow! Just wow!
This looks really aweson!
Quote from: CM30 on June 25, 2015, 06:28:01 PM
Okay, this is freaking awesome.
Now testing the power ups patch from SMW Central and it's fantastic! Now I'll be able to hopefully use the following powerups in this game:
Hammer Suit
Raccoon Leaf
Tanooki Suit
Blue Shell
Boomerang Flower
Ice Flower
Rocket Boots
This is very impressive, my interest in your hack is now at an entirely new level! My time to play hacks is rather limited so most end up on my "might" play list. This one is definitely now on my "will" play list. Keep at it, I'll be looking forward to your release! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Grimlock on June 26, 2015, 11:59:21 PM
This is very impressive, my interest in your hack is now at an entirely new level! My time to play hacks is rather limited so most end up on my "might" play list. This one is definitely now on my "will" play list. Keep at it, I'll be looking forward to your release! :thumbsup:
Same here, I am playing completely different games at the moment (I am not really into SMW hacks at the moment) so most hacks will get on a 'might play' list for me too. But I am really waiting for this one. :)
Because it's not dead:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/treetops.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ghostship.png)
That ship!!
Can you climb the anchor chain or are they part of the background :)
Only decoration unfortunately. The ship's weird shape means that giving it collision detection isn't possible.
Doesn't matter. Just a question. :)
Either way, this game gets closer and closer to completion, at least for part 1. The chapel level is gonna be interesting, that's for sure.
I love chapels/churches/Mad Monster Mansion.
Few quick teasers of other levels:
(http://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/factorypreview.png)
(http://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/hotel1.png)
(http://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/hotel2.png)
Hotel Mario?
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on July 26, 2015, 02:31:47 PM
Hotel Mario?
Nope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QDI0Ff4VSA
Ah, it's Wario Land 4!
You should have probably figured out that there's a reason I put so much Wario Land 4 stuff in my works. And that's because to me, Wario Land 4 is one of the greatest platformers or games of all time.
As of now, I've used the following Wario Land 4 level GFX and themes in End Game:
The Curious Factory
Forty Below Fridge
Pinball Zone
Toy Block Tower
The Big Board
Domino Row
Crescent Moon Village
Hotel Horror
Golden Passage
And these ones in Nightmare Quest part 1:
Palm Tree Paradise
Mystic Lake
Monsoon Jungle
Toxic Landfill (planned)
Forty Below Fridge
Toy Block Tower
The Big Board
Doodle Woods
Domino Row
Hotel Horror
With Arabian Night planned for part 2. So yeah, pretty obsessed. So much so that I've literally only got four levels out of eighteen that I haven't used GFX or ideas from...
And I'll probably end up including something from each of the last four somewhere in the later parts of this game...
But yeah, fan art, fan fiction (before), board games, ROM hacks, sprite rips, Wario forums, Wario music on Youtube, Wario discussion on other sides... I am pretty much close to obsessive about that game.
In other news... expect a possible delay between part 1 and part 2, because I'll probably take a break then.
Yeah, you've been working hard, so I understand.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmGl0Fp2jUM&list=PLpSo90iafonPQTEg0YiZX6HrkL6S6X7Kt&index=1
Wow, this hack is wonderful!!
Demo should be available on August 24th 2015 at the Nintendo Community Fan Game Convention:
http://nintendocfc.com/
I was hoping for a full release, but a demo with a couple of levels missing seems more plausible.
Great!
If, in my opinion, it is a good hack, I will make a video walkthrough for it and put it onto Youtube. I am playing SMW Hacks at the moment, so I am into it!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on August 07, 2015, 05:17:49 PM
Great!
If, in my opinion, it is a good hack, I will make a video walkthrough for it and put it onto Youtube. I am playing SMW Hacks at the moment, so I am into it!
Thanks! What is your Youtube channel by the way?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpSo90iafonPQTEg0YiZX6HrkL6S6X7Kt
My VLDC 8 playlist, on my channel.
Unfortunately, my video's don't get watched much. Probably because I don't put my own head in my video's.
Also, the song you are going to use in your hack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrloRALNVsQ&list=PLpSo90iafonNhXrOaMqIxBJe9nJmhq_bb&index=9
Quote from: CM30 on August 06, 2015, 06:13:48 PM
Demo should be available on August 24th 2015 at the Nintendo Community Fan Game Convention:
http://nintendocfc.com/
Where's this convention going to be held? I followed the link but I couldn't find any specifics other than the date.
Quote from: Grimlock on August 09, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Where's this convention going to be held? I followed the link but I couldn't find any specifics other than the date.
It's an internet convention. The site is the convention.
How is it going?
You can decide for yourself very soon. But here's a picture showing part of a level in progress:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ghosthouseplace.png)
Graphics from Tiny Toons Adventures, a very, very nice looking game for the SNES.
Tiny Toons Adventures? Don't know that one.
It's very shortly going to be released as a demo, but... a few last minute pictures:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/mansionpic1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/mansionpic2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/mansionpic3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/mansionpic4.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/NightmareQuest/mansionbossroompic.png)
.
I think it's Ashley from the Wario Ware games.
Quote from: Isao Kronos on August 26, 2015, 09:14:30 PM
I think it's Ashley from the Wario Ware games.
Yes, that is correct.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ashleypic.png)
Scary.
Reminds me of Yume Nikki.
You be your own judge of that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWB8J6YxVXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErsBgNP_lbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaP71uICuYM
^ random WarioWare videos!
And updated:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ashleyboss1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/ashleyboss2.png)
So it seems it is not from Yume Nikki :)
Demo 1 is now out:
https://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?resources/marios-nightmare-quest-part-1-demo-1.15/
A quick preview, in case you need some reasons to download:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/grassy-plains.49/full)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/reverse-gravity.47/full)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?media/a-mansion-level.44/full)
Really interested to finally try this out so I ran through all the levels that I could & here are some notes;
Glitches: The toad house boxes sometimes glitch if you walk while hitting them, In it never rains the floating platform guy(dunno his name) floats directly into a block and that causes a glitch & near the end if you try to go under that 1 block high flipping boxes sections you can get stuck, glitch, & die. In the first castle if you accidentally blow the explosive early you get stuck & it's pretty difficult to not get hit when you blow it at points. Sometimes the note blocks graphics glitch, it's most notable in the first ghost house but I'm pretty sure I saw it in other places as well. Dying in the ghost house or beating via either exit is freezing the game for me so I can't progress past that. Some of the bullet bills act strangely like firing backwards or the graphics are in the wrong direction. Seems some of the midpoint respawn points have graphic glitches to the left when restart at them. One or two of the ! block columns have glitched firebar graphics in the level they're in.
Suggestions: Their seems to be a bit of an excess of tight corridors, random bullet bills & firing enemies, and multiple hit enemies to sort of artificially ramp up the difficultly I expect hacks to be more difficult than the original games but I felt their were a bit too many cheap deaths in my runthrough. Inversely of that the typical hack cliche of precise platforming isn't present at all I'm not a fan of overdoing it but you'd expect some tricky jumping sections every now and then in a platforming game. I liked all the additional power-ups and didn't really run into any bugs with them but it seemed a bit overkill to have so many but no real level specific uses for them & having the raccoon leaf and cape really doesn't make sense unless theirs really long sections you have to fly across with the cape later in the game.
Overall: Graphics were the high point of this imo everything looked really great & I liked all the imported things from other mario games. Most of the ASM hacks seemed to be really well done & some of the bosses could use some polishing up but I was really impressed with the pirate crocodile boss. Wasn't the biggest fan of some of the level designs but for a demo it was pretty substantial and showed a lot of promise. Didn't really like that I had to register at your site just to try the demo I could see doing a site exclusive release for a finished hack but not for just a demo.
Quote from: drunkenjesus on August 31, 2015, 05:35:58 AM
Really interested to finally try this out so I ran through all the levels that I could & here are some notes;
Thanks for your feedback, it's excellent. I hope when the final version is done, you'd be interested in a review, since you seem to be pretty good at pointing out the good and bad points of a hack.
But more in depth:
Quote from: drunkenjesus on August 31, 2015, 05:35:58 AM
Glitches: The toad house boxes sometimes glitch if you walk while hitting them, In it never rains the floating platform guy(dunno his name) floats directly into a block and that causes a glitch & near the end if you try to go under that 1 block high flipping boxes sections you can get stuck, glitch, & die. In the first castle if you accidentally blow the explosive early you get stuck & it's pretty difficult to not get hit when you blow it at points.
The Toad house boxes glitch I know of, and I'm trying to fix the custom blocks so they don't do this.
The Amazin Flying Hammer Bro will be moved up in It Never Rains, as well as in a few other levels to prevent this.
The 1 block high flipping boxes I didn't know of, thanks for pointing it out. That will also be changed.
And the explosives? Yeah, I'll try and make them harder to hurt yourself with, though I'm not sure what to do about them exploding early or being lost forever. Maybe I'll come up with a generator or something that respawns them.
Quote from: drunkenjesus on August 31, 2015, 05:35:58 AM
Sometimes the note blocks graphics glitch, it's most notable in the first ghost house but I'm pretty sure I saw it in other places as well. Dying in the ghost house or beating via either exit is freezing the game for me so I can't progress past that. Some of the bullet bills act strangely like firing backwards or the graphics are in the wrong direction. Seems some of the midpoint respawn points have graphic glitches to the left when restart at them. One or two of the ! block columns have glitched firebar graphics in the level they're in.
Huh, that ghost house bug definitely needs to be fixed. What emulator did it occur in?
If you need to go past that point for now, it doesn't seem to break in ZSNES. I'll test the level in BSNES a bit later, then SNES 9X.
Quote from: drunkenjesus on August 31, 2015, 05:35:58 AM
Suggestions: Their seems to be a bit of an excess of tight corridors, random bullet bills & firing enemies, and multiple hit enemies to sort of artificially ramp up the difficultly I expect hacks to be more difficult than the original games but I felt their were a bit too many cheap deaths in my runthrough. Inversely of that the typical hack cliche of precise platforming isn't present at all I'm not a fan of overdoing it but you'd expect some tricky jumping sections every now and then in a platforming game. I liked all the additional power-ups and didn't really run into any bugs with them but it seemed a bit overkill to have so many but no real level specific uses for them & having the raccoon leaf and cape really doesn't make sense unless theirs really long sections you have to fly across with the cape later in the game.
Thanks for pointing this out. I have to admit, the amount of random Bills and other enemies is higher in the endgame parts, which the military world accessible by going right is one of. But I'll try and make sure less of them are there, so there are less cheap deaths.
The amount of platforming sections is lower because as weird as it sounds, the intention here was for an easier game, not the precision platforming of most Mario ROM hacks. Which is why I should look into reducing the number of enemies in some places. But there should be more platforming in parts 2 and 3, and less enemy overuse in the final version of part 1.
The power ups may come across as overkill, but it's a more a throwback to the style of SMB 3. Basically, in the olden days, power ups were... just that. They didn't have puzzle utility, they were to make you feel like a god as you killed everything in sight. Nowadays, it seems like design is more about 'balance' and puzzle solving and what not, and I'm not sure I prefer that. Basically, they're deliberately overpowered.
Quote from: drunkenjesus on August 31, 2015, 05:35:58 AM
Overall: Graphics were the high point of this imo everything looked really great & I liked all the imported things from other mario games. Most of the ASM hacks seemed to be really well done & some of the bosses could use some polishing up but I was really impressed with the pirate crocodile boss. Wasn't the biggest fan of some of the level designs but for a demo it was pretty substantial and showed a lot of promise. Didn't really like that I had to register at your site just to try the demo I could see doing a site exclusive release for a finished hack but not for just a demo.
The bosses are still being worked on, especially in terms of sprite graphics.
The level design will hopefully get better, given that I've also got a pretty well known ROM hack reviewer as a beta tester:
https://www.youtube.com/user/SMCslevelengine
As for the demo, it's not site exclusive, it's also on NCFC:
http://nintendocfc.com/booth.html?id=80
That should be a guest usable download link. Sorry about pushing the sign up to download stuff, it's just a (somewhat lame) attempt to promote a site that's currently in development. I do the same thing for music downloads and other stuff.
Quote from: CM30 on August 31, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
And the explosives? Yeah, I'll try and make them harder to hurt yourself with, though I'm not sure what to do about them exploding early or being lost forever. Maybe I'll come up with a generator or something that respawns them.
Really after the first one it wasn't that big of an issue once you figure out how to get the jump right, if you could maybe increase the time or something that'd probably help, because if you get accidentally get trapped between it and the wall its pretty much impossible to get out of the way in time. The respawning aspect is more or less just so it falls in line with mario games, in SMB3 they just had a pipe that looped you back in the levels that you needed to use a turtle shell the break through or had to fly somewhere.
Quote from: CM30 on August 31, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
Huh, that ghost house bug definitely needs to be fixed. What emulator did it occur in?
If you need to go past that point for now, it doesn't seem to break in ZSNES. I'll test the level in BSNES a bit later, then SNES 9X.
SNES9X for the Wii, I'll try the other snes emus on RetroArch Wii or on a PC later
Quote from: CM30 on August 31, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
Thanks for pointing this out. I have to admit, the amount of random Bills and other enemies is higher in the endgame parts, which the military world accessible by going right is one of. But I'll try and make sure less of them are there, so there are less cheap deaths.
Yeah even SMB3 kinda used that exclusively in the last world to ramp up the difficulty so I don't mind it too much, it just gets a bit aggravating jumping over something then blindly getting hit by a bullet bill or kicked shell in early levels before you get a chance to rack up lives.
Quote from: CM30 on August 31, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
The amount of platforming sections is lower because as weird as it sounds, the intention here was for an easier game, not the precision platforming of most Mario ROM hacks. Which is why I should look into reducing the number of enemies in some places. But there should be more platforming in parts 2 and 3, and less enemy overuse in the final version of part 1.
The power ups may come across as overkill, but it's a more a throwback to the style of SMB 3. Basically, in the olden days, power ups were... just that. They didn't have puzzle utility, they were to make you feel like a god as you killed everything in sight. Nowadays, it seems like design is more about 'balance' and puzzle solving and what not, and I'm not sure I prefer that. Basically, they're deliberately overpowered.
Totally understandable design choices, I've always really hated the Cape though.
Quote from: CM30 on August 31, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
As for the demo, it's not site exclusive, it's also on NCFC:
http://nintendocfc.com/booth.html?id=80
That should be a guest usable download link. Sorry about pushing the sign up to download stuff, it's just a (somewhat lame) attempt to promote a site that's currently in development. I do the same thing for music downloads and other stuff
It does help keep people up to date as I see you've updated it 3 times since I played it so I'll give it another go here whenever I get a chance since their looks to be a good amount of levels that I wasn't able to access. But for something like this it'd probably a good idea to post a public and site exclusive link since a lot of people may be hesitant to sign up to a site to try it. Looking forward to the completion of this as imo theirs very few full length hacks of SMW that take the game in a different direction properly most are either vanilla redressings or just gimmick based.
Quote from: drunkenjesus on September 01, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
Really after the first one it wasn't that big of an issue once you figure out how to get the jump right, if you could maybe increase the time or something that'd probably help, because if you get accidentally get trapped between it and the wall its pretty much impossible to get out of the way in time. The respawning aspect is more or less just so it falls in line with mario games, in SMB3 they just had a pipe that looped you back in the levels that you needed to use a turtle shell the break through or had to fly somewhere.
If you need to go past that point for now, it doesn't seem to break in ZSNES. I'll test the level in BSNES a bit later, then SNES 9X.
SNES9X for the Wii, I'll try the other snes emus on RetroArch Wii or on a PC later
Yeah even SMB3 kinda used that exclusively in the last world to ramp up the difficulty so I don't mind it too much, it just gets a bit aggravating jumping over something then blindly getting hit by a bullet bill or kicked shell in early levels before you get a chance to rack up lives.
Totally understandable design choices, I've always really hated the Cape though.
It does help keep people up to date as I see you've updated it 3 times since I played it so I'll give it another go here whenever I get a chance since their looks to be a good amount of levels that I wasn't able to access. But for something like this it'd probably a good idea to post a public and site exclusive link since a lot of people may be hesitant to sign up to a site to try it. Looking forward to the completion of this as imo theirs very few full length hacks of SMW that take the game in a different direction properly most are either vanilla redressings or just gimmick based.
The thing with the explosives in castle 1 is fixed. There's now a reset door in each section, which resets that specific small area in case you lose the detonator.
The ghost house bug will be checked then. Not sure while it'd crash, unless the music is breaking.
The random bullets is also kind of because the areas with that generator are in an active war zone. If there's ever a place you expect to randomly get shot, it's probably a war zone.
The cape is probably rare in this version. But it might be more common in part 2 or 3.
And yes, the public and site exclusive links are both posted for the most part. I just thought it'd be a neat way to boost sign ups.
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Note that a couple of fixes have been released for this demo, in the form of updates. If you haven't, try going to the download link again and redownloading:
https://gamingreinvented.com/forum/index.php?resources/marios-nightmare-quest-part-1-demo-1.15/
http://nintendocfc.com/booth.html?id=80
Well, I uploaded some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dVNVdj6J0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv0J3nJVl4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8tK_6Qkdok
I can also say that a more 'final' version of part 1 could be done by the end of the year. We're just deep in the middle of beta testing at the moment.
Well, it's been a while, hasn't it? Either way, I plan to continue this game shortly, since I want part 1 in a mostly finished state by the end of the year (as not to delay parts 2 and 3).
This game is now a Fusion Gameworks project! Yes, it stands alongside Mushroom Kingdom Fusion, Super Mario Fusion Revival and the Mega Man Day in the Limelight series!
http://www.fusiongameworks.net/smf/index.php/board,58.0.html (http://www.fusiongameworks.net/smf/index.php/board,58.0.html)
But there's a small price. Namely, because it's now at Fusion Gameworks, I will not be updating this topic, or any other topic on any other site this was posted on except my own. So you can find any updates in one of two places:
1. Fusion Gameworks
2. Gaming Reinvented
No others. Over and out.
Well, I said I wouldn't update this topic.
But hey, I changed my mind. Fusion Gameworks is a tad quiet at the moment.
Ice level:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erQPsMbNETg
New enemy GFX:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/Chapter1_00000.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/Chapter1_00004.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/Chapter1_00005.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/Chapter1_00006.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/Chapter1_00007.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/Chapter1_00008.png)
New beta overworld GFX:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/zeldasubmap.png)
Some GFX for a pyramid level that's half complete:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/Chapter1_00009.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67216205/Chapter1_00012.png)
So yeah, not dead.
Is this still a Mario World hack? I ask mainly because of how extreme the Overworld looks and the fact I haven't the foggiest what a Fusion Gameworks is.
Insane amount of detail in those pyramid level graphics!
Aye! That looks awesome! :thumbsup:
I thought the project was dead, so I am glad you updated!
Now if only you could give some expected date (month?) for a new beta or final release...
Looking great! Out of curiosity, why not have and upkeep project threads on multiple sites? It's the best way to get your work more exposure.
Quote from: Bahamut ZERO on July 12, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
Is this still a Mario World hack? I ask mainly because of how extreme the Overworld looks and the fact I haven't the foggiest what a Fusion Gameworks is.
Insane amount of detail in those pyramid level graphics!
Yeah, still a SMW hack.
The pyramid graphics are from Indiana Jones on the SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_xnYteP2Q
They were also used in Birabuto Bash in Mushroom Kingdom Fusion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB00HO2Mtzk
Talking of Mushroom Kingdom Fusion, Fusion Gameworks refers to the site for that game, Mario Fusion Revival, Mega Man Day in the Limelight and this ROM hack. Aka:
http://fusiongameworks.net/smf/index.php
They provide quite a bit of promotion for the game, and sometimes help with graphics and things.
Quote from: SC on July 13, 2016, 09:33:35 AM
Aye! That looks awesome! :thumbsup:
I thought the project was dead, so I am glad you updated!
Now if only you could give some expected date (month?) for a new beta or final release...
Next beta could be within the next few months or so. Maybe with the desert and toy themed worlds.
Quote from: Grimlock on July 13, 2016, 09:52:55 AM
Looking great! Out of curiosity, why not have and upkeep project threads on multiple sites? It's the best way to get your work more exposure.
I am.
Reminds me of the concept for Super Mario's Wacky Worlds.
The unreleased Mario World 2. :)
You mean the Egypt like area and its style? I guess it's a bit like Wacky Worlds in that sense.
Well, few updates I'll be showing soon, like the new food level I'm working on, plus the christmas level and hopefully the casino level.
Also added new map GFX, but not gonna post them here. Find them for yourself in the actual game, there needs to be some secrets left!
Well, new K Rool battle setup (old):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoBP6pbAz_g
And the meltdown sequence from the current version (with animation):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE-sNiVQSyw
Hey, I thought you took the hack to a different engine?
It seems you're using SMW again.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on August 07, 2016, 08:48:55 PM
Hey, I thought you took the hack to a different engine?
It seems you're using SMW again.
My idea was that there would be a two or three part SMW version and then a single part standalone game version somewhere down the line.
Ah, alright!
Well, got a few new pictures I didn't post:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/mouserstunned.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/christmas.png)
Not much, but it's not dead yet. There is the possibility this game will be at NCFC 2016.
However, I do have some bad news as well. Namely that thanks to real life matters I need to be focused on, it is unlikely this game will be finished for quite a while now. Hence part 2 is currently on hiatus, and will remain as such for the next few years or so. Sorry for anyone who expected it more quickly, but with a bunch of websites and a business, this is honestly just not as big of a priority any more.
I like the christmas tree graphic. That'll be great to play at christmas. You should release this on christmas day.
Quote from: MathUser2929 on September 08, 2016, 08:30:31 AM
I like the christmas tree graphic. That'll be great to play at christmas. You should release this on christmas day.
The graphics are a really nice tileset on SMW Central.
And funny enough, this level is meant to be a level you play at Christmas. It's a sort of... remnant of the game's earlier days. Where each secret level is a special holiday themed level with its own (non serious) ending. But the halloween one turned out to not work too well with the tileset chosen, and I didn't find any fitting easter graphics, so the idea got scrapped.
Just so you know, Last Impact is out (the hack by Kaze Emanuar)!
I didn't knew you interviewed him.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on September 30, 2016, 06:41:15 PM
Just so you know, Last Impact is out (the hack by Kaze Emanuar)!
I didn't knew you interviewed him.
I know. But until the controller arrives, I won't be able to play Last Impact. N64 games do not work well with keyboard controls.
And yes, Kaze Emanuar got an interview:
https://gamingreinvented.com/interview/lets-interview-kaze-emanuar/
As for the game the topic is about? It's currently somewhere in limbo at the moment.
Isn't the topic mainly about Last Impact? That game was released two days ago. I had the honor of beta testing the game.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on October 02, 2016, 06:38:11 AM
Isn't the topic mainly about Last Impact? That game was released two days ago. I had the honor of beta testing the game.
No, this is the Mario's Nightmare Quest topic. Look at the titles and what not.
The Last Impact topic is here:
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=75119
Ah, I thought you were talking about the topic of the interview itself ::)
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on October 02, 2016, 12:02:55 PM
Ah, I thought you were talking about the topic of the interview itself ::)
In which case... it's sort of about Last Impact, but not entirely. We covered every hack he'd worked on.
Quick proof this project isn't as dead as a dodo:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/picture1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/picture2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/picture3.png)
However, another actual demo might be a while off.
Wow, sure looks great!
Keep up the hard work :D
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on January 26, 2017, 08:59:14 PM
Wow, sure looks great!
Keep up the hard work :D
Thanks! More screens and footage will be coming throughout the year.
Not as if it matters, but last GFX update for a bit:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/space1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/space2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/space3.png)
Found them on a free sprites archive. You know, one of those meant for indie developers building games to release on Steam or the likes. Surprisingly, they work amazingly in Super Mario World hacks!
Wow, these graphics work exceptionally in SMW. They remind me of Mega Man!
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on February 05, 2017, 04:57:59 PM
Wow, these graphics work exceptionally in SMW. They remind me of Mega Man!
Yeah. The original sprite sheet actually had a lot more than this, but I decided to stick with what I could get looking thematically coherent in one level.
http://opengameart.org/content/space-merc
Either way, definitely sprites I'd recommend if you're making a Metroid or Mega Man hack. Or if you're doing something else with a space theme.
Well, this has been a while!
But hey, may as give some updates none the less. Firstly, I have some bad news.
Put simply, I was storing my latest version of the mod on an SD card which I've seemingly now misplaced. So unless I can find it easily (or my backup is up to date), it seems like some progress made be lost for this game.
However, that doesn't mean the game is cancelled. Oh no, I'm actually planning to release a new demo in the next few months or so, I just need time to finish a few more levels before doing so.
As a result of this, you may be able to find the project at the Nintendo Community Fangame Convention in October 2017:
http://forum.nintendocfc.com/showthread.php?tid=544
So yeah, just letting everyone know the status of this project.
Oh hey, I redid the main overworld map here:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NightmareQuestNewOverworld.png)
More linear than before (the path going up after the third level is a secret exit path unlocked from the other end), but I think it suits the game's more linear progression a bit better.
I've also replaced some of the music, and will switch the game over to PIXI (a new sprite editor allowing for level specific sprites) soon.
Looking good! :happy:
Thanks! Other updates are coming soon.
This looks really cool!
That's a great idea using open source original sprite work like that.
Quote from: para on September 11, 2017, 02:12:06 AM
This looks really cool!
That's a great idea using open source original sprite work like that.
Thanks! I'm trying my hardest to look for more interesting resources to use here, to make this game stand out from the hordes of Super Mario Bros 3 style mods out there.
Well that and because it stops content ID problems. Don't want people who play this for a Let's Play to see their videos get demonetised for 'copyrighted content', so I'm avoiding as many default Nintendo graphics and songs as possible here.
Quick update: Currently learning a bit of ASM to make this game better, since I realised that the chances of me getting all the necessary blocks, sprites and level ASM without it are slim to none. Current progress is average, with about 20 custom blocks taken care of on day 1 or so.
Next update will be to try and code some level ASM and generators, before moving to full custom coded sprites of various kinds.
As far as graphics are concerned, those are progressing too. Now have the perfect background graphics from Actraiser 2 for the forest castle, which is being redone to look more like Stormrook (the gold one) rather than the dark/spotlight focused one I'm currently using.
More layer 3 backgrounds now exist too.
Edit: Update on the update. Have figured out how to make custom blocks, as well as basic sprites and generators/level ASM.
Some stuff that's already done is:
Unfreezing a level by hitting a fireplace with a fireball
Custom On/Off Blocks with special block behaviours based on their status
Doors that only open when all Dragon Coins are collected
Switches that flood/drain the level (this has been done a million times now, but it was easy none the less).
On/Off Switches activated by enemies
Blocks that are either spiky on bottom or on top based on Switch status (ala Yoshi's Island)
Enemies moving Mario by hitting certain blocks
Platforms only usable if Mario/Luigi are on Yoshi
Proper power up filters
Mario teleporting to the screen exit if Yoshi eats all berries on screen
Or jumps on all enemies without touching the floor
Barrel Cannons that explode after using them
A system that kills Mario the second he gets any points in the level
A storm cloud that tracks Mario on screen and tries to blast him with lightning
And a few other minor things of that nature. Currently trying to get proper bosses and more complex enemy sprites working, with multiple attack phases and patterns.
Okay, it's been a really long time since I gave an update on this. But yeah, here goes:
First, I've been redesigning many of the levels here, hence the delay since the last demo. That's because I've been studying game design a bit more, and have tried to keep to the 4 step level design style mentioned by Mark Brown in his videos on Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze in this game too.
Secondly, I've also gotten a few new testers who'll help make this one of the best SMW mods ever. Who are they? Well, I'll say this much:
They're people with experience in game design, including an ex Nintendo employee turned YouTube game design critic. So now I'll get actual feedback about every aspect of the design, as held to the standards of a professional product released by a real company.
Finally, some new graphics have been added, and can be seen here:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/SMWmod1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/insidebody.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/underwatertemple.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/SMWmod4.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/SMWmod3.png)
Obviously the level design isn't present in these pictures (they're just graphics test setups), but yeah, that should give you an update to what's going on idea wise.
So what do you think of it now? Are you interested in seeing how this hack could progress from here?
This is very appealing. :thumbsup:
This game has been catching my eye now for awhile, I can't wait to see how it turns out!
Man this hack just keeps looking better and better. Styling the Banzai Bill after its appearance in the Super Mario World cartoon is a neat touch. That HUD is impossible to read in a few of your screenshots, though. Hopefully it's just temporary though.
Quote from: Sephirous on April 27, 2018, 11:44:18 PM
This is very appealing. :thumbsup:
This game has been catching my eye now for awhile, I can't wait to see how it turns out!
Thank you!
Quote from: Midna on April 28, 2018, 08:34:19 AM
Man this hack just keeps looking better and better. Styling the Banzai Bill after its appearance in the Super Mario World cartoon is a neat touch. That HUD is impossible to read in a few of your screenshots, though. Hopefully it's just temporary though.
The HUD is temporary. Still deciding whether it'll look like SMB 3 or NSMB Wii, and will fix the colours when I've decided.
Well, this thing isn't technically dead yet:
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_05/SMW_00006.png.4cac41c13084b06c01fd8b44f60c2500.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_06/SMW_00001.png.121f2a61144b1c5ab6d546a38004dfa2.png)
(Ignore status bar or level setup, they're just the GFX being used for the new forest and desert stages).
And I'm learning enough ASM for interesting level mechanics, as well as reworking various levels.
However, it's quite a large project, and probably not one that's ideal to handle alone (especially alongside the Gaming Reinvented redesign). So, is anyone here interested in helping out? Someone who can make graphics in the style of Kopejo's tiles and the ones in tools like Mario Unimaker would be great to have on this project, since that's the 'default' here.
And music porting/composing is something I can't do either, so if anyone's good at that, I'd love to have your help too. Quite a few songs from recent games that need to be ported to the SNES for this.
So yeah, any takers?
Few small map updates:
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_06/SMW_00003.png.b6b771480f18325d63817d15f14593cd.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_06/SMW_00004.png.b3c94938e880e1fd41762f65b606d3d9.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_06/SMW_00005.png.3b809619d94ae5036aa852e14059c44b.png)
Have now started updating the enemies so each world has unique variants of the default ones (in addition to whatever custom sprites are in use). So the forest world now has forest creatures and mythological beings replacing the default SMW ones:
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00004.png.eb55d2814e38ff0b434d8caecedd0c9a.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00001.png.15b17a4bba148ef841f7a330c5e9ba40.png)
The desert one has scimitar throwing guys, anubis Koopas and mummies:
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00005.png.e5be6b999f2910105f75162083e60261.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00002.png.01122911a8351e93ce90c434481cf09d.png)
And the haunted world now has spooky monsters like Grim Reapers, scarecrows, skeletons, etc:
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00006.png.b8ceb4c49295b6b01e27de3dbbc6a9fe.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00007.png.ad84c785c74e6a525987b3c3810c3ab1.png)
(https://www.the-gcn.com/community/uploads/monthly_2018_10/MNQ_00008.png.4bc36e28002999d2ecc5dea485d251d6.png)
Obviously there's no level design there yet, so I tested them out in the GFX test levels I'm using to test the map16 setup for each level. Regardless, each world will eventually have unique monsters, based on the following themes:
- World 1/2: Mushroom Kingdom enemies (grass/mountain worlds)
- World 3: Christmas enemies (ice world)
- World 4: Pirate enemies (water/ocean world)
- World 5: City enemies (industrial world)
- World 6: Forest enemies (forest world)
- World 7: Spooky enemies (haunted world)
- World 8: Desert enemies (desert world)
- World 9: Future/Space/Mechanical enemies (space world)
- World 10: Zelda enemies (Hyrule)
And then a mix of everything in the final one.
Well, just found a good tileset for the Shadow Temple level:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/402225513667756035/512404852689600512/MNQ_00013.png)
Now just missing the Wooded Kingdom level, lightning lake level, Gerudo Valley and some of the final world, and I should be able to focus on the levels and ideas a bit more than the aesthetics.
Something tells me that this romhack is going to be something special,keep up the great work! :thumbsup:
Plus I seen that satanic pentagram from that recently released Mario Game 2018 romhack!
Thanks
That said, it's not inspired by that hack, it's from a Super Mario Bros X graphics pack. There's a surprising amount of interesting tilesets you can get in that community, and this game uses a fair few of them.
A few minor updates:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367792816585441291/537403746997764096/SMW_00000.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367792816585441291/537409593114886156/SMW_00001.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367792816585441291/537409601964867604/SMW_00002.png)
Now obviously designing actual levels.
I'm still eagerly waiting for this to be finished! You seem to be doing a very good job! :beer:
We'll see how level design ends up!
:cookie:
Thanks SC
Here's another update, as posted on Discord:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383882047845826586/552271588104601600/SMW_00009.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383882047845826586/552271623017988099/SMW_00006.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383882047845826586/552271657742368878/SMW_00008.png)
Still considering the level design a bit more for this one though, I like the new aesthetics and animations, but I feel the obstacles need reworking.
Edit: Jesus Christ would you look at the date on the first post in the topic. It's nearly been 5 years, and this thing is still nowhere near done. Hopefully I get it finished in a shorter time frame than Mushroom Kingdom Fusion (at least 12 years) and Brutal Mario (at least 13 years).
It's been a while now, but hey, may as well post the latest updates from this:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/383882047845826586/592480354447654912/desert1.png?width=682&height=600)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/383882047845826586/592480424798978050/desert2.png?width=680&height=600)
Well they're not technically the 'latest', but I'm not spoiling every level, including the last two I finished.
It's a bit late, but here are a few more screenshots of this project that I posted on Discord recently:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568306406428639244/660677007822028800/image0.jpg)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568306406428639244/660677007822028801/image1.jpg)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568306406428639244/661594640423845918/BeachLevelScreenshot.png)
Wow, cool to see this hack is still running. I notice that a few posts ago, Mario looks like he does in All Stars, while in the latest pics he looks like his SMW self again.
Quote from: Thirteen 1355 on January 11, 2020, 08:01:55 AM
Wow, cool to see this hack is still running. I notice that a few posts ago, Mario looks like he does in All Stars, while in the latest pics he looks like his SMW self again.
He's going to look like he does in All Stars. It's just that the development ROM I use for making levels at the moment doesn't have the custom powerups patch applied, since said patch seems to clash with PIXI and GPS and makes it kinda unstable. I also have an additional ROM used to test graphics/mechanics (without levels included), and that doesn't have most of the patches usually applied either.
So don't worry, the SMAS graphics are still being used for Mario.
Forgot to post a few other updates here a while back:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568306406428639244/678729528998363146/MNQ_6_2020-02-16_22.25.37.png?width=800&height=587)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568306406428639244/678729533448519680/MNQ_6_2020-02-16_22.26.02.png?width=800&height=587)
Just posted a few more screens on SMW Central that I should post here too:
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/watertemple.png)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/pyramidtileset.png)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/HauntedLevelUpdated.png)
So, thoughts on them?
Well, here are a few more screens:
Intro
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/IntroScreenshotX.png)
Deep Woods (part of Steam Gardens Level)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/DeepWoodsScreenshotX.png)
Treetops (part of Ripsaw Rage level)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/TreetopsScreenshotX.png)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/TreetopsScreenshot2X.png)
i love it when you post new screenshots, it looks great
Quote from: Isao Kronos on May 06, 2020, 05:30:55 PM
i love it when you post new screenshots, it looks great
Thanks! I always make sure the screenshots in every update stand out from the last set, and look as fancy as possible.
Though these are going to be quite tame compared to the more... interesting level designs in development.
Just posted a few HUB world updates:
Plus an updated part of a minecart stage:
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/ToadTownResizedWIP.png)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/ToadTownWIPResized2.png)
(https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/WL4ItemShopResized.png)
(click to view large minecart stage image) (https://bin.smwcentral.net/u/10295/MinecartUpdate.png)
Looking very sleek! It's still coming along nicely it seems.
Thanks Thirtreen 1355!
On another note, due to the ambitiousness of the project, I've decided to start looking for other team members.
So if you're interested, here's who we need for the game right now:
Level Designers
We need some more level designers able to design levels in the way Nintendo does in games like Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, utilising 4 step level design as the core design principle there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmIkEvEBtA
Graphics Artists
The project also needs a few more artists too, namely ones who can either create foregrounds in the style of MFGG's Kopejo and Super Mario Unimaker:
https://mfgg.net/index.php?act=user¶m=09&uid=7380
Or sprite graphics in the style of SMB 3 on the SNES/GBA.
Music Composers/Porters
Another thing that we'd appreciate would be some musicians willing to port or compose music for the game.
That's because a few themes don't really have appropriate background music right now, and a few bosses later on will need the appropriate background music for their battles.
ASM Programmers
Finally, while it's not super important (since I've been learning ASM for a while and am handling a lot of the coding duties myself), it might be nice to have a few more programmers on board too, just to speed up the development of certain mechanics planned for the game.
Well, this has been a while hasn't it?
Either way, I'm just gonna give an update on this project, since it's now resumed development and I'm hard at work adding to it on a new ROM.
Basically, I've decided the next update/demo... will almost certainly be done by the end of 2020. That probably won't include the final boss due to its complexity, but it'll include most other things nonetheless. By doing this, I'll hopefully be able to get a finished version out by 2021, and put the game to rest after 8 years in development.
Sorry for any delays, I did not expect it to take this long in the slightest!
October 14, 2020, 11:15:02 AM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
I've now started fixing up this game to work with the DKCR status bar, including the Piranha Plants in this level:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/FortScreenshot1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/FortScreenshot2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/FortScreenshot3.png)
Yeah, that took a lot of graphics switching to get them to fit with the new status bar.
It continues! Yep, while I've been quiet on this project due to YouTube stuff, it's not dead. In fact, I've been continuing development recently, with the goal of getting the final game done by sometime in 2021.
Here's a quick preview of a level I'm working on:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/lightninglakeindev.png)
With the gimmick being that lightning electrifies the water and makes it dangerous to swim in for a while, as well as breaks wooden logs to open new paths or create obstacles.
It's gonna be an interesting stage for sure!
January 17, 2021, 01:53:24 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Have a few new level screenshots!
Ripsaw Rage
The second part of this level takes place in the treetops with Grinders.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/TreetopsArea.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/TreetopsArea2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/TreetopsPlatformRide.png)
It's pretty standard for the most part, but later you have blocks/objects that can be destroyed by Grinders. Like this bridge!
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/GrinderBreakableBridge.png)
Lightning Lake
If lightning from the Sumo Bros or generators hits the water, it's electrified for a few seconds and will damage Mario if he touches it.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/ElectrifiedWater.png)
It can also damage or destroy log platforms:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/BreakableLogPlatforms.png)
So you have to be super careful:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/HangingOn.png)
Some more updates:
Desert Oasis GFX Showcase
Some graphics being used for an oasis level in future. Water not added yet.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/DesertOasisGFX1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/DesertOasisGFX2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/DesertOasisGFX3.png)
Castle Level?
Part of a level inspired by an area in Super Paper Mario, with an intriguing main mechanic. Can you figure out what it is?
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MonochromeCastle1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MonochromeCastle2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MonochromeCastle3.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MonochromeCastle4.png)
Okay, may as well give another quick update.
Just been working on some ASM code for this game, mostly for blocks and stuff.
This includes remade net blocks which can be passed through based on whether you're in front or behind a climbing net, plus the switch status.
And remade ghost ship blocks that now work with the Vanish Cap/Invisible Powerup sprite found here:
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=24495
Might try and remake the Metal Cap using that a base too.
But yeah, no new screens yet, sorry.
February 21, 2021, 06:25:07 PM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Oh hey, actual design updates.
World 1 Castle
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/World1Castle1.png)
Seems fairly standard so far...
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/LockedDoor.png)
But you eventually come across this locked door. You'll obviously need to find a key (not that doing so is very hard in this level).
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/ThwompBreakableBricks.png)
You'll later come across bricks that Thwomps can smash through...
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/MoreThwompBreakableBricks.png)
Including some that take out the platform you were going to use. Guess that makes it a tad tougher now...
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/MoveQuickly.png)
After a simple puzzle involving a POW, a locked door and a Thwomp, you get here, where you have to quickly race under these Thwomps (there is way more than enough time).
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/BowserStatue.png)
Bowser Statues debut here. The next one needs to be used to cross a lava pit, but it's initially too high. What to do? Wait, the Thwomp near it will smash the bricks, and drop it to a lower level!
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/World1Boss.png)
Yes, still using that Brutal Mario esque XanBie boss from the other demo. Eh, it works, and for the most part the early bosses in this game are not going to be coded from scratch anyway.
Vanish Cap Vessel
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/GhostShip1.png)
Oh hey, a ghost ship!
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/GhostShipGrate.png)
Hmm, how do I get past this fence?
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/VanishCapActive.png)
Oh I can go and get a Vanish Cap (from Mario 64) and use that to pass the grate (and avoid enemies). It does have a flickering effect, but you can't see it in a still picture.
The weird blocks are unpassable with said item, which is another mechanic. So you have to know when to use the Vanish Cap and where to go with it.
Either way, eventually you'll reach a wall with no clear path forward. Go back and fall down any pit (there will likely be a visual cue for this)...
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/LowerLevel.png)
And you arrive at the second level of the ship, with a tide that goes up and down (and eventually a Boss Bass that uses said tide).
That's the other major 'gimmick'. There are three floors (dry, partially flooded and completely flooded), and the only way to make progress on each is to go to the other floors and go back and forth to bypass obstacles. As you can imagine, it gets... fairly complicated. Good luck finding the secret exit!
Since my level design update got buried cause of slightly bad timing, I'm just gonna say that the game is about 40-50% complete at this time, and that I've sent a short teaser out to my testing team to get feedback on the game's design and what not. Once the feedback has been received and acted on, I'll start thinking about a short demo or something as well.
March 01, 2021, 07:05:23 AM - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Another update everyone!
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/MagicBlocks.png)
Now the castle level has blocks Magikoopa magic blocks can break
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/StatuePuzzle.png)
Which you have to use to your advantage...
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/CloudFlower.png)
I also have some pictures of a sky level involving the Cloud Flower. Only said form can stand on clouds:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/BreakableClouds.png)
Oops...
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/AcornPlains.png)
A NSMBU style level in development? Hmm
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/Candy1.png)
Oh hey a candy themed level!
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/Candy2.png)
More candy related stuff!
Since the last post got auto merged cause I was slightly off on the timing, have a few new pictures:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/SnowLevel1.png)
Ptooies are pretty neat.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/SnowLevel2.png)
As are Snailicorns from the original New Super Mario Bros.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/IceFortress1.png)
You can probably guess what the main mechanic here is, right?
(also the random green block will give you infinite Fire Flowers in case you get hit/run out, but I haven't added graphics for it yet).
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/IceFortress2.png)
More of the same I guess.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/IceFortress3.png)
As per many games, you have to be careful not to thaw out the Munchers here.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/IceFortress4.png)
Using dolphins in a fortress level? Unusual, but original I guess.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/IceFortress5.png)
More of the level. Yes, it's an ice themed Urchin and Dry Bones.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/IceFortressBoss.png)
As you'd guess, Fryguy is the boss here.
Oh hey, even more updates! God I need to hurry up with this lol.
Beach Level
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/KremlingChuck.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/BossBass.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/SharkJumping.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/LaunchBassLockon.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/LaunchBass.png)
Vanish Cap Vessel
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/VanishCap.png)
Yes, new Vanish Cap graphics!
Macro Zone
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/SMLAnts.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/GiantKoopa.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/TrickierSection.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/GiantEnemySection.png)
World 2 Fortress/Tower
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/NetCastle.png)
This section has a huge net that moves with the screen, and you can switch side with L and R.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/BoomBoom.png)
Minecart Madness
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/Minecart1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/Minecartswitchsection.png)
You can hit switches to create or reveal paths.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/crumblingtrack.png)
Watch out! Parts of the track will crumble underneath you!
??
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/CircusTiles1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/CircusTiles2.png)
Wonder what these tiles are based on?
Amazing work CM,keep it up. :)
Quote from: DavidtheIdeaMan on March 12, 2021, 02:26:43 PM
Amazing work CM,keep it up. :)
Thank you!
May as well include some pics from another tileset ripped for this:
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/PaperMarioStyle1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/PaperMarioStyle2.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/PaperMarioStyle3.png)
Yep, more Paper Mario style graphics for a secret level.
Well, it's been a while, so have a few more screens and graphics pictures:
Graphics
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683708366811562005/859209891776692234/lavatilepreview.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683708366811562005/859209905968513034/ForestTilePreview.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683708366811562005/859209915418935326/valleytilepreview.png)
Three more tilesets ripped for levels. The first two are by PROX on Super Mario Bros X.org, the other one is from Mario Fan Games Galaxy. They'll be used for later game levels.
Levels
Red Switch Palace
In this level, getting 10 or more coins will kill you. So err... avoid the money!
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683708366811562005/833402684119842846/ApproachingCoin.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683708366811562005/833402688288194640/SwitchHit.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683708366811562005/833402689660518430/Lakitu1.png)
Yellow Switch Palace
Meanwhile here, blocks affect Mario's movements when enemies hit them, and make him jump, spin jump, move in a certain direction or die respectively, based on the icon.
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/YellowSwitchPalace1.png)
(https://gamingreinvented.com/media/MNQ/YellowSwitchPalace3.png)
Progress
Finally, as for a progress update... well it's been on hiatus a lot due to other things going on, but I do want demo 2 out by the end of the year.
Meanwhile the full version will hopefully be done someday, but I have no idea when exactly.
Those look dang beautiful!
Im dying to play this rom hack,keep up the great work CM. :thumbsup:
Quote from: DavidtheIdeaMan on July 24, 2021, 12:47:34 PM
Those look dang beautiful!
Im dying to play this rom hack,keep up the great work CM. :thumbsup:
Thanks David! I hope you'll be able to experience the hack soon, or at least a demo of some sort.
This hack is getting really attractive, I hope I can play it soon ;)! I'm passionate about Super Mario World hacks, although I only know how to program for Mortal Kombat 2, 3 and Ultimate on the SNES. I wonder what it would be like to put a new scenarios for these games :laugh:. Good luck!
Quote from: Lucas Dext5r on July 24, 2021, 02:56:14 PM
This hack is getting really attractive, I hope I can play it soon ;)! I'm passionate about Super Mario World hacks, although I only know how to program for Mortal Kombat 2, 3 and Ultimate on the SNES. I wonder what it would be like to put a new scenarios for these games :laugh:. Good luck!
Thanks Lucas! Hopefully you'll get to try out the demo for this hack soon enough!
Well this has been a while!
But I've now continued working on this project, and started building things like an overworld map too.
Have a few WIP pics of the map here:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/921931394513518592/smw000.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/921931394714837042/smw002.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/921931394895196251/smw003.png)
And if you want to contribute to the project, there's now a channel on my Discord server here:
Mario's Nightmare Quest (Gaming Reinvented Discord Server) (https://discord.gg/qVtHrMFg88)
So yeah, thoughts?
Well, time for another quick update! More coding work has been done on this, with plans to get the project mostly done/potentially 100% complete by the end of 2022.
Some recent additions include Sheikah Monks based on BoTW, enemies inspired by Super Mario Land 2 and the NSMB series, Munchers that one shot both Mario and enemies and turn into anti coins when a silver P-Switch is used, high and low gravity switching, switches changing when all enemies on screen are defeated, Mario Kart style random item boxes and code to switch Mario's form with L + R.
Many more mechanics are in development, though finishing levels is probably a priority, hah.
Oh hey, have a few screenshots of enemies and mechanics I've been coding for this game:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/926585475731427368/YoshiOnly.png)
Playable solo Yoshi mechanic. Get knocked off, area restarts via teleport
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/925582914614337586/Skipsqueak.png)
A Skipsqueak from Super Mario 3D World. Jumps when the player does.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/925795322268110938/GiantShark.png)
Sushie (shark) from Super Mario 64/New Super Mario Bros.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/925909501666787388/Biddybud.png)
Early work on Biddybuds from Super Mario 3D Land. Comes in flying and normal variants based on the extra bit.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/925233089989472327/MiniBossTest1.png)
A WIP mini boss based on a familiar foe from Ocarina of Time...
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/927207487092957215/BossDev1.png)
A WIP mini boss based on a familiar from The Wind Waker...
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/927207487315263529/BossDev2.png)
Another WIP boss, based on the main villain from Super Paper Mario.
(these are in very early stages)
Well, let's have another ASM/mechanics update!
Here's a demon like creature inspired by Mario Fusion:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/929717442480078868/DemonEnemy.png)
Fiery humanoids that explode upon hitting the ground:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/929909680053055558/FallingFigure.png)
Metal Slug style aliens:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/929909680380203018/MetalSlugAlien.png)
Special Bullet Bills that drop normal or custom sprites on Mario whenever he's underneath, and explode upon hitting walls:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/931737045020336148/BomberBill.png)
A space rocket mechanic for certain levels...
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/931737045443969054/Rocket.png)
Free vertical and horizontal movement with straight fireballs gimmick:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/931737045653659648/FreeMovement.png)
Zingers from the DKC series, since I thought the ones found elsewhere didn't fit the style of this game:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/931737046081495040/Zinger1.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/931737045842423848/Zinger2.png)
So yeah, thoughts?
Oh I can't WAIT to play this rom hack,Im hyped! ;D
Quote from: DavidtheIdeaMan on January 14, 2022, 09:39:14 PM
Oh I can't WAIT to play this rom hack,Im hyped! ;D
Thanks David! I have so many awesome ideas I want to work on and include in this hack, so stay tuned for even more crazy level design ideas, gimmicks, game mechanics, custom enemies and bosses, etc.
Hopefully I can get another demo out by the end of this year too.
No prob CM30! ;D
I can't wait to see what ideas you'll come up with,I think this hack & Extra Mario World are going to be my highest SMW rom hack hacks I want to play so badly! :)
Quote from: DavidtheIdeaMan on January 16, 2022, 08:41:12 PM
No prob CM30! ;D
I can't wait to see what ideas you'll come up with,I think this hack & Extra Mario World are going to be my highest SMW rom hack hacks I want to play so badly! :)
Thank you so much! I'm still getting used to this SNES programming stuff, so progress is kinda slow there, but I've now worked on (and in some cases, finished) a few more sprites:
Juggling clown from Castle of Illusion:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/933174424453152808/JugglingClown.png)
Tatanga (tracks Mario's Y position, follows screen, takes damage from projectiles and fire):
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/933174424658649138/Tatanga.png)
Sea mines (explode when touched/hit with fire):
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/933535857577701426/VerticalMine.png)
Giant fishbone:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/933535857783226428/BigFishbone.png)
Damn it's been a while hasn't it?
Well, may as well post some proof it's still in development. I've worked on new sprites and bosses:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/938234925080002630/Kamek.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/938234924786397244/VerticalFire.png)
Plus some new graphics updates:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/977715424684826704/YellowSwitchPalace.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/977715424953249872/GhostHouse1.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/977715425276198942/GhostHouse2.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/977715425779523665/SuperBellHill1.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/977715426035380244/SuperBellHill2.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/977715426266054666/SuperBellHill3.png)
I'll finish this project... eventually.
Thanks for the update! I'll keep an eye out for this one :thumbsup:
Quote from: DragonSpikeXIII on May 22, 2022, 03:04:01 PM
Thanks for the update! I'll keep an eye out for this one :thumbsup:
No problem! Glad you're interested!
I've also added a background to the new ghost house tileset for Hellfire Haunt, lol:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/978052679244865546/smw003.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831325062807814154/978052679496527892/smw002.png)