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Title: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 17, 2013, 01:41:24 pm
Hello my name is 32x1000 I specialize in nes rom hacking. I am currently working on 2 projects 1) Rockman Super Space 2) Cannot be specified. I release a group of rom hacks on a single day called a "Hackathon". I thought that releasing 2 hacks on the same day would be enough but now I think 3 is an appropriate amount. With that said I am working on a third project called SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Return to Subcon. I like others in the rom hacking community to get involved with MOST of my projects so I would love to hear your ideas and any programming help will be accepted. :D


   
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: Jorpho on November 17, 2013, 10:33:12 pm
People will probably be much more likely to pay attention to your hacks if you take the time to do a good job than they will be if you simply decide to release three mediocre hacks on the same day.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 18, 2013, 12:32:08 am
People will probably be much more likely to pay attention to your hacks if you take the time to do a good job than they will be if you simply decide to release three mediocre hacks on the same day.  Just sayin'.
Maybe if people take part in the hacks he's doing right now like Rockman Super Space, They wouldn't be 'mediocre'

November 18, 2013, 12:36:25 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
If this hack is intended to be a Mario and Sonic crossover, how about making the world a mashup of the two (think Somari but hopefully more refined)

Grant it, seeing this is a Mario and Sonic crossover, How about making Peach an anthropomorphic female vixen [female fox] (why not?)
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 18, 2013, 08:07:25 pm
The 3 hacks I am currently working on have been worked on for a long time (except for the Mario sonic one because I just started on it). Like cyber fox said I use other peoples ideas and mine to all collaborate into a true masterpiece. A lot of people don't know this but these 3 hacks are only half way done. There is a lot more left to go which means more room for improvement. Besides all that I appreciate your feedback and i will take what all say into account Thanks :)
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 18, 2013, 08:29:24 pm
my pleasure

But as for Super Space, I suggest to put on a delay until the Robot Master Contest is done so when the final 9 are chosen (hopefully, one of my creations) you'll have enough time crafting their sprites, their stages along with commish someone to do the proper music for the stages
given if you promote it to get more members involved


anyway, I assume you approve of me ideas thus far for the Mario + Sonic hack?

November 18, 2013, 08:47:18 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
as for enemies for the Mario + Sonic hack
here's what i got for now
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5064/7eav.png)
Pirate Goomba

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7243/uyzx.png)
Windup Flamouse
(It would be practical for this one to be a enemy in a world themed on toys)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7957/k2i6.png)
Billiapede
(A enemy that would be well suited for a world themed on sports)
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 18, 2013, 09:15:57 pm
I like them very clever....
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 18, 2013, 09:18:51 pm
I like them very clever....
Thanks ^^
Though it would be nice if we would get some more people on board theses hacks of yours (besides me that is)
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 18, 2013, 09:40:20 pm
Yes that would be helpful. Well maybe I could try setting up a post on my youtube channel and talk about the hacks so people will be more interested.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 18, 2013, 10:19:43 pm
Yes that would be helpful. Well maybe I could try setting up a post on my youtube channel and talk about the hacks so people will be more interested.
What is your YT channel?
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: PurpleSunDeryl on November 19, 2013, 11:19:16 am
Have you considered using the Master System Sonic sprites (seeming as this will be NES)?
Also, I agree that looking at Somario for inspiration is a good idea.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 20, 2013, 04:03:07 pm
Have you considered using the Master System Sonic sprites (seeming as this will be NES)?
Also, I agree that looking at Somario for inspiration is a good idea.

It should be like Somario but 100% more refined and more fun
Plus a plot to go with it
with stuff like
- Princesses Rosalina, Peach and Daisy turned into mobian princesses (Rosalina as a mobian cat princess, Peach as a mobian female fox princess and Daisy as a mobian female wolf princess) because of a dimension overlapse between the worlds of both Mario and Sonic
- Bowser and Dr. Eggman join forces
- a mystical being helps Mario and Sonic with mystical powers beyond their comprehension
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: justin3009 on November 20, 2013, 04:40:27 pm
People don't tend to help on projects unless there's actual 'visual' hack progress being done.  Having an idea doesn't get very far on here as others try to pass the work down to others.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 20, 2013, 04:46:49 pm
People don't tend to help on projects unless there's actual 'visual' hack progress being done.  Having an idea doesn't get very far on here as others try to pass the work down to others.

I believe he has 3 of them halfway finished
however, Super Space's Robot Master contest needs more entries as well as voting afterwards to get the respectable robot masters needed for the game... he already has a plot for Rockman Super Space but refuses to detail it because it's a secret

I think it wouldn't hurt for this community to help this dude out, He stated he needs other people's ideas and feedback to make his hacks be the best it can be - as quoted here from himself "I use other peoples ideas and mine to all collaborate into a true masterpiece. A lot of people don't know this but these 3 hacks are only half way done. There is a lot more left to go which means more room for improvement."

Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: Zynk on November 20, 2013, 09:28:42 pm
People don't tend to help on projects unless there's actual 'visual' hack progress being done.  Having an idea doesn't get very far on here as others try to pass the work down to others.

"Screenshots or it doesn't happen" as most of people would think.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: Jorpho on November 20, 2013, 11:44:40 pm
The world in general is brimming with "half"-finished projects.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 21, 2013, 04:11:20 pm
Ok screenshots....
Rockman Super Space
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/RockManSuperSpace-3_zps4f296638.png?t=1385068245)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/RockManSuperSpace-42_zpsc275fd95.png?t=1385068113[img]
[img]http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/RockManSuperSpace-1_zps22d97098.png?t=1385068226)
Early beta of Super Mario and Sonic Hack
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/smario2-1_zps009ab9d0.png?t=1385068616)
Later beta
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/MarioandSonic-0_zps16b75ed0.png?t=1385068697)
Latest beta
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/MarioandSonic-1_zps5cf29d13.png?t=1385070063)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/MarioandSonic-2_zps009febac.png?t=1385070065)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/32x1000/MarioandSonic-3_zpsc2a7ae5e.png?t=1385070067)
There you go :)
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 21, 2013, 05:19:24 pm
How about retooling the whole thing beyond leaving the SMB2 levels as is?
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 21, 2013, 06:38:00 pm
What do u mean?
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 21, 2013, 07:22:36 pm
What do u mean?

I mentioned during your absence that it can borrow from Somari - however, the mechanics will be more refined than the infamous pirate game

not to mention a plot with the elements like
- Princesses Rosalina, Peach and Daisy turned into mobian princesses (Rosalina as a mobian cat princess, Peach as a mobian female fox princess and Daisy as a mobian female wolf princess) because of a dimension overlapse between the worlds of both Mario and Sonic
- Bowser and Dr. Eggman join forces
- a mystical being helps Mario and Sonic with mystical powers beyond their comprehension
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 21, 2013, 07:51:50 pm
Oh ok well the thing is I have no idea how to change the game engine which includes mechanics AND there is no level editor for somari.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: CyberFox on November 22, 2013, 01:26:13 am
so yeah, about the plot
You are gonna use the elements i presented with your plot?
I'm sure you can do a better plot than the original SMB2 (Doki Doki Panic) where it ends with It's all a dream

The ending should be more rewarding not be a middle finger to the player like SMB2's was
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: Drakon on November 22, 2013, 09:35:54 pm
People don't tend to help on projects unless there's actual 'visual' hack progress being done.  Having an idea doesn't get very far on here as others try to pass the work down to others.

I guess It's easy coming up with ideas, not so easy reprogramming commercial games to include your ideas.
Title: Re: SUPER MARIO AND SONIC: Hack idea
Post by: 32x1000 on November 22, 2013, 09:42:01 pm
YES U UNDERSTAND!!!  :cookie: