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Title: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 11, 2013, 04:07:50 AM
I'm largely unfamiliar with games beyond 2000 or so.

What games had especially good voice acting?

The ones I was familiar with were LUNAR (Way better than most out there at the time), Metal Gear Solid (Very impressive), and I suppose Snatcher (A personal favorite).

What was released after 2000 that had good voice acting?
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: KaioShin on August 11, 2013, 04:38:12 AM
Red Dead Redemption
Max Payne 3

It's not something easy to remember specifically, the average is pretty damn solid these days. I remember Lunar to be pretty stilted and meh.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 11, 2013, 07:09:19 AM
Yeah, you remember right. But it was a lot better than what it shared shelf space with. Vay doesn't even really compare all that well, and it was by the same people.

Edit: Aaaaah, horse apples, now I have to find a way to play Vay.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 11, 2013, 07:19:04 AM
Although I haven't played the last couple releases, the Hitman series always has solid voice acting with the core cast.

Atlus has been on a tear in recent years, and it's pretty much expected that anything released after Digital Devil Saga has astounding voice work.

Liam O'Brien, who still does voice acting started doing voice directing a while back, and every game he's been in charge of that I've played has been top-notch.

As Kaio said the average has risen dramatically as of late. Laura Bailey and Troy Baker are in pretty much everything (and it's kind of for good reason). The only thing I'm not particularly fond of is celebrity voice work, it very rarely works for the better, and even when it's awesome (Oblivion, and Patrick Stewart) it eats through so much of the budget that you have to reuse actors for everything.

Still waiting on my big break  :P
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: KaioShin on August 11, 2013, 07:48:38 AM
Quality voice acting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdvkjK92-Y
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Mew seeker on August 11, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
As far as I remember, Final Fantasy XII, XIII and XIII-2 has good voice acting.
I agree with you on Metal Gear Solid.
The voice acting in Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 and Persona 3 and 4 was good too.
Umm, from what I remember, Starcraft 2, at least the first part out of three, I have not play the ones after that.

Quote from: KaioShin on August 11, 2013, 07:48:38 AM
Quality voice acting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdvkjK92-Y

You have not heard the story mode voice of Bust a Move 2, didn't you? : P
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 11, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
FF12 is an odd case. Many of the voice actors were unknowns, and although the actual acting was fantastic (according to tvtropes some of them were British stage actors?) the recordings themselves suck. The volume is all over the place, and half the time the lines sound like they're being delivered over the phone.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 11, 2013, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: Mew seeker on August 11, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
As far as I remember, Final Fantasy XII, XIII

Oh, I played those, briefly. I didn't enjoy the voice acting much at all. XII's is better, but with XIII as its competition, it didn't really have it's work cut out for it...

I don't know, I suppose it's a matter of taste.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 11, 2013, 10:14:15 AM
Yeah we're going to have to disagree on that one, I though the cast of XIII did an astounding job. Further in you go, as frustration, and tensions rise and characters begin to crack, that's when it really gets good.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Zynk on August 11, 2013, 10:26:25 AM
I don't go wrong with this:  :D

GrimGrimoire

Surprisingly IMHO, the English voice actors are much, much better than the Japanese VAs. The JP VAs sounded generic, the EN cast however are very well done, esp. Advocat. I can't seem to find who voiced who on this game.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: JCE3000GT on August 11, 2013, 10:57:22 AM
Final Fantasy XII was a good example I think too.  I also really enjoyed Blue Dragon for the XBOX360 and am currently REALLY enjoying Lost Odyssey's cast as I play through it. 
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 11, 2013, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: Zynk Oxhyde on August 11, 2013, 10:26:25 AM
esp. Advocat. I can't seem to find who voiced who on this game.

Yuri Lowenthal if memory serves me correctly.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Gemini on August 11, 2013, 11:30:50 AM
That guy is abused. Seriously, he's in every freaking game.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Jeville on August 11, 2013, 02:38:28 PM
Shenmue.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Azkadellia on August 11, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
Quote from: Next gen Cowboy on August 11, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
FF12 is an odd case. Many of the voice actors were unknowns, and although the actual acting was fantastic (according to tvtropes some of them were British stage actors?) the recordings themselves suck. The volume is all over the place, and half the time the lines sound like they're being delivered over the phone.

Probably because almost all the voice acting was literally phoned in (AKA over the telephone). At least that's what's all over the internet.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Jedi QuestMaster on August 11, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Star F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7RWxq9cNY)ox 64 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7RWxq9cNY&t=3m30s) - but nearly everyone has played it.

I believe both languages were on par with each other (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSewNbCOGw).
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: LostTemplar on August 11, 2013, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: Azkadellia on August 11, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
Probably because almost all the voice acting was literally phoned in (AKA over the telephone). At least that's what's all over the internet.

I don't know the English dub, but that doesn't even make sense. Why would anybody in their right mind do that, let alone a big game studio?

I liked the dub of Shadows of the Damned. It's (intentionally I'd say) a bit over-the-top, though.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Azkadellia on August 11, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
More than likely it was bad audio compression. I read somewhere that they used sub-optimal codecs.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Plint Michigan on August 11, 2013, 09:24:37 PM
I barely notice when a game has good voice-acting. If a game has voices that fit the characters, I consider it good voice acting. Kind of straight-forward. But it also has to do with the voice-actor's personality as well. I cannot think of any games off the top of my head. ...Or at least not anything I am not embarrassed to say.

Quote from: Spooniest on August 11, 2013, 04:07:50 AM
Metal Gear Solid (Very impressive)

Huh? I thought Metal Gear Solid's voice acting was depressingly dull.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Celice on August 12, 2013, 02:52:00 AM
Dark Souls, and Demon Souls. Both games surprised me at how awesome their localization and voice acting efforts were, especially considering that most "risky Japanese investments" churn out laughable or weirdly-stilted dialogue.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Kyrael Seraphine on August 12, 2013, 03:07:05 AM
I'm surprised no-one mentioned Bloodlines.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Jedi QuestMaster on August 12, 2013, 03:59:30 AM
Quote from: Kyrael Seraphine on August 12, 2013, 03:07:05 AM
I'm surprised-
We barely broke past one page and already someone dropped one of these. (http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr343/JediQuestMaster/hmph.gif)

By the way, what's Bloodlines?
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 12, 2013, 04:13:45 AM
Quote from: Plint Michigan on August 11, 2013, 09:24:37 PMHuh? I thought Metal Gear Solid's voice acting was depressingly dull.

Yes, but at least it wasn't so bad you'd be embarrassed to be caught playing it, a la Resident Evil.

Quote from: Plint Michigan on August 11, 2013, 09:24:37 PMI barely notice when a game has good voice-acting.

That's the idea. I've heard filmmakers talk about someone being "bounced" out of the picture by things that engage their conscious mind too heavily. If it's good, you don't really notice it in and of itself.

The commentary for LotR:Fellowship, someone mentions that at a certain tense point, it's like the score is "barely there."
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: KingMike on August 12, 2013, 10:50:43 AM
Final Fantasy X  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 12, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
I always thought FFX was a valid attempt at effort. And one scene taken out of context makes everyone think it was a joke. It wasn't ideal, and some parts are very overacted, but that's as much or more the fault of the subject matter and direction than it is any poor performance. Also for comparison we got Star Ocean 2 less than 3 years before... FFX is light years ahead of that, right Craude?   :P

That doesn't mean I think X had great acting, it just wasn't as horrendous as most people think. I was trying to think of truly poor acting, and the Star Ocean series is pretty much a prime offender. As much as I adore the games, and many of the characters, most of the voice work is average at best, and memetically bad (in 2's case) at worst.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Lilinda on August 12, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain set the standard many, many years ago and is criminally unappreciated. It has some of the best voice acting I've ever seen regardless of the medium.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Plint Michigan on August 12, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: Spooniest on August 12, 2013, 04:13:45 AM
Yes, but at least it wasn't so bad you'd be embarrassed to be caught playing it, a la Resident Evil.

Thee speaks the truth excellency.

Quote from: Next gen Cowboy on August 12, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
I always thought FFX was a valid attempt at effort. And one scene taken out of context makes everyone think it was a joke. It wasn't ideal, and some parts are very overacted, but that's as much or more the fault of the subject matter and direction than it is any poor performance. Also for comparison we got Star Ocean 2 less than 3 years before... FFX is light years ahead of that, right Craude?

Claud: Straud has advanced forward. Heh.

Yeah, a lot of the voice-acting in that game was pretty bad. I think Claude, Rena, Ashton, and Noel were the worst.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Mew seeker on August 12, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on August 11, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Star F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7RWxq9cNY)ox 64 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7RWxq9cNY&t=3m30s) - but nearly everyone has played it.

I believe both languages were on par with each other (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSewNbCOGw).

IIRC, in one issue of Nintendo Power, one of the Japanese developper said that he liked the English voices with the Japanese text best.  :D

Quote from: Next gen Cowboy on August 12, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
I was trying to think of truly poor acting, and the Star Ocean series is pretty much a prime offender. As much as I adore the games, and many of the characters, most of the voice work is average at best, and memetically bad (in 2's case) at worst.

Isn't Star Ocean 2 the game where your characters can call a monstruosity that goes under the name of Barney,
said thing being so horrible that random encounters don't dare to bother you while you're on it?  :D
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Plint Michigan on August 12, 2013, 04:11:07 PM
Quote from: Mew seeker on August 12, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
IIRC, in one issue of Nintendo Power, one of the Japanese developper said that he liked the English voices with the Japanese text best.  :D

Isn't Star Ocean 2 the game where your characters can call a monstruosity that goes under the name of Barney,
said thing being so horrible that random encounters don't dare to bother you while you're on it?  :D

Claude: Hey cumEEER, Barney!

As far as I know, the creature's just called Bunny, but it sure sounds like they say Barney.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: BRPXQZME on August 12, 2013, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Next gen Cowboy on August 12, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
I always thought FFX was a valid attempt at effort. And one scene taken out of context makes everyone think it was a joke. It wasn't ideal, and some parts are very overacted, but that's as much or more the fault of the subject matter and direction than it is any poor performance.
Somewhere between the translated text and the inability to change model acting or re-sync lips it was okay though not always the greatest it could be.

I've said this before to the point where people are probably sick of me saying it, but FFX's model acting was not the most readable for general Western audiences—understated emotions ("gaman" especially) and bowing etiquette everywhere. I'd dare say some of it is subtle by even Japanese standards. You transplant that into a much lower-context culture and suddenly it looks like people aren't communicating realistically.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 12, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
The delivery is an important part of the performance that the technology has not overcome the problem of localizing yet.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: KingMike on August 12, 2013, 08:04:06 PM
I didn't think FFX was bad either, also aside from that one cutscene,  but you can't have a voice-acting topic without bringing that one up. ;D
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 12, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
Ok, let's say there were Academy Awards for video game voice acting.

Who would be up for this year?
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Kyrael Seraphine on August 13, 2013, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on August 12, 2013, 03:59:30 AM
We barely broke past one page and already someone dropped one of these. (http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr343/JediQuestMaster/hmph.gif)

By the way, what's Bloodlines?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_Bloodlines

I second Kain, though I mostly only remember Kain himself from the first game. Soul Reaver was pretty decent, too.

That said, voice acting has gotten better by leaps and bounds in the last ten or so years, once people realised it was actually important. Most of the time, it's purely an aesthetic choice, now. I'm still happy when they give me my Japanese voice tracks, if only because I've become rather fond of certain actors.

The less we mention Chaos Wars, the better.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 13, 2013, 05:10:34 AM
Quote from: Spooniest on August 12, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
Ok, let's say there were Academy Awards for video game voice acting.

Who would be up for this year?

That's a very difficult choice. The Last of Us as a whole has amazing direction; some of the smallest things are only barely picked up, and when one character starts to mimic the affectation of another it's amazing to hear. Troy Baker sound to me like he slips once or twice on the Texas accent, but it's not something I've heard enough of to know whether it's that, or I'm just not used to that accent. If it is a slip, that's the single lowpoint, because everything else is beyond superb.

I haven't beaten it yet, but the new Hitman is as superb as all of the other ones that I've played. Probably better because there's more of it.

I haven't played the new Bioshock, but the first two games have astounding voice work as well, so my assumption is the new one does too.

Best supporting lead in a JRPG goes to Ali Hillis for Burroughs from SMT IV.

Also certain Japanese voice tracks have become as recognizable to me in recent years as their Western counterparts. Because Yakuza doesn't offer English voices, I've become so accustomed to hearing Japanese, that when I looks at the first game, it just feels wrong.

Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: BRPXQZME on August 13, 2013, 05:23:56 AM
Bioshock Infinite is not fresh in my head, but I'm not remembering any nasty bad readings or emotionally inappropriate lines* so it probably was good.

* except that tendency for audiovox and game dialogue to play over each other—GUYS/ELIZABETH, QUIT SHOOTING/TALKING AT ME FOR A SEC, I'M TRYING TO LISTEN IN ON SOMEONE'S ILL-CONSIDERED DIARY ENTRY HERE.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Talbain on August 14, 2013, 12:06:26 PM
I can't actually think of any games with good voice-acting.  Maybe campy voice-acting.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Next Gen Cowboy on August 14, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: BRPXQZME on August 13, 2013, 05:23:56 AM
except that tendency for audiovox and game dialogue to play over each other—GUYS/ELIZABETH, QUIT SHOOTING/TALKING AT ME FOR A SEC, I'M TRYING TO LISTEN IN ON SOMEONE'S ILL-CONSIDERED DIARY ENTRY HERE.

I had a big problem with this in the first game, because the audio-diaries are laying out in the open sometimes, and I was very interested in the story. It was totally worth taking a couple bullets to hear about how that hole in the bathroom got there in the first place.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: justin3009 on August 17, 2013, 01:30:00 AM
I think X's voice actor in Maverick Hunter X is actually quite astoundingly well done.  REALLY emotional and clear.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Spooniest on August 17, 2013, 02:03:51 AM
Quote from: justin3009 on August 17, 2013, 01:30:00 AM
I think X's voice actor in Maverick Hunter X is actually quite astoundingly well done.  REALLY emotional and clear.

The line "I will destroy you, Sigma" came off especially well. One of the first times a game made me raise my eyebrows with the acting, though I suspect it being Mega Man had something to do with it...this series didn't always do such a great job with it, but this was stunning.
Title: Re: Games With Good Voice Acting
Post by: Talbain on August 20, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
Thinking on it, what do people think about Mischief Makers?