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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7skuSh-87qk

Della Ducktales! Quick graphics mod to make Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales (1989) and Ducktales 2, via graphics replacement (as an HD pack) in the Mesen emulator.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/8jrs44m66xnx1ds/DellaDucktales.zip/file

If anyone wants to remake this as a proper ROMhack, be my guest.



Here's a first test as a ROM. Player sprites changed only.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lhDlcOMnMx1zcmjbI9gBEXppdFZFh7Ie/view?usp=sharing

It's not very good. Obviously the NES palette is much more limited than what I was able to do with no color limitations. But there's also the issue of her face. Scrooge uses extra "mask" sprites of his face to add a blue eye color. Della's face is in a different position than Scrooge's, and it shows in the palette switching. Ideally I would want the "masks" for Della to be displayed up two pixels and inward one pixel, from where they are now. She has a lower jaw, which Scrooge doesn't, and this would allow for that. Also her climbing and golf swing sprites are way off. Otherwise I'd have to redesign the sprites so that her face is always in the same position that Scrooge's is, and she has no lower jaw.

« Last Edit: October 09, 2020, 08:10:17 am by tygerbug »

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2020, 02:12:54 pm »
I'll have to check this out.
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2020, 02:58:30 pm »
Delightful. If I had time on my hands I'd like to make this into a romhack. I will follow this thread to remember tp check it out when I got the time. Anyone else interested?
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2020, 01:21:56 am »
Neat. I wouldn't mind trying to play the games as Della. Would've been Donald, but hey, I'll take what I can get. Della's grown on me since her development in Season 2 of the reboot Ducktales.

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2020, 04:52:43 am »
That was the point, to link this to the reboot of Ducktales.

Donald's had his own games already!

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2020, 06:01:51 am »
Neat. I wouldn't mind trying to play the games as Della. Would've been Donald, but hey, I'll take what I can get. Della's grown on me since her development in Season 2 of the reboot Ducktales.

I second this. A playable Donald would be awesome. DuckTales is great, but I don't think a lot of people have or ever will establish a significant bond with any new characters. It's such a classic franchise, and any new citizens of Duckburg, however great they are, will forever play second fiddle to the original, main line of characters.

Still, adding Della is a nice touch for those interested!

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2020, 07:12:27 am »
Delightful. If I had time on my hands I'd like to make this into a romhack. I will follow this thread to remember tp check it out when I got the time. Anyone else interested?

I would be interested on making/helping make a romhack of Ducktales 1 devoted ENTIRELY to the amazing reboot series if anybody was willing to go that far. :thumbsup:
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2020, 04:41:50 pm »
That would be very interesting. A Della hack would be a start!

The references have gone the other way too:
https://twitter.com/JeffMan1490/status/1308233000031789056
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2020, 01:25:28 am »
That would be very interesting. A Della hack would be a start!

The references have gone the other way too:
https://twitter.com/JeffMan1490/status/1308233000031789056

Just switching out the graphics and changing some text is easy. But yeah, it would be really cool to make a reboot based hack with new levels. Maybe start on the moon and Della has to get back to earth!
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2020, 10:10:08 am »
  I already created the necessary sprites for Della as an HDPack, which in theory could be recolored and pasted into the ROM - although Ducktales is sort of complicated with how it uses extra sprites for extra colors on the player's face, for example.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2020, 12:15:10 pm by tygerbug »

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2020, 10:14:35 am »
I honestly wouldn't mind the redesigns of the nephews and Webby in this project as well, but I heard that might be difficult

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2020, 06:26:02 pm »
You may recall there is already a 2-player hack for Ducktales 2 which surely has some possibilities.
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2141/
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2020, 08:10:30 am »


Here's a first test as a ROM. Player sprites changed only.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lhDlcOMnMx1zcmjbI9gBEXppdFZFh7Ie/view?usp=sharing

It's not very good. Obviously the NES palette is much more limited than what I was able to do with no color limitations. But there's also the issue of her face. Scrooge uses extra "mask" sprites of his face to add a blue eye color. Della's face is in a different position than Scrooge's, and it shows in the palette switching. Ideally I would want the "masks" for Della to be displayed up two pixels and inward one pixel, from where they are now. She has a lower jaw, which Scrooge doesn't, and this would allow for that. Also her climbing and golf swing sprites are way off. Otherwise I'd have to redesign the sprites so that her face is always in the same position that Scrooge's is, and she has no lower jaw.



Here is a version of the sprite sheet. I've noted the three Scrooge "masks" in blue. (There are more elsewhere for win/lose animations.)

Ideally I'd like these masks to be rendered two pixels higher, and one pixel "inward" (which would be right here, as he's facing left).

https://i.imgur.com/BatNR7I.png

« Last Edit: October 09, 2020, 05:03:14 pm by tygerbug »

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2020, 09:03:00 am »


Here's a first test as a ROM. Player sprites changed only.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lhDlcOMnMx1zcmjbI9gBEXppdFZFh7Ie/view?usp=sharing

It's not very good. Obviously the NES palette is much more limited than what I was able to do with no color limitations. But there's also the issue of her face. Scrooge uses extra "mask" sprites of his face to add a blue eye color. Della's face is in a different position than Scrooge's, and it shows in the palette switching. Ideally I would want the "masks" for Della to be displayed up two pixels and inward one pixel, from where they are now. She has a lower jaw, which Scrooge doesn't, and this would allow for that. Also her climbing and golf swing sprites are way off. Otherwise I'd have to redesign the sprites so that her face is always in the same position that Scrooge's is, and she has no lower jaw.

Would you mind providing ROM info please? I'd love to help out with the graphics editing and bug fixes, but I want to make sure I'm using the ROM you are so that no conflicts arise.

Example:
Database match: Super Mario Bros. (World)
Database: No-Intro: Nintendo Entertainment System (v. 20180803-121122)
File SHA-1: EA343F4E445A9050D4B4FBAC2C77D0693B1D0922
File CRC32: 3337EC46
ROM SHA-1: FACEE9C577A5262DBE33AC4930BB0B58C8C037F7
ROM CRC32: D445F698
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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2020, 04:48:48 pm »
Database match: DuckTales (USA)
Database: No-Intro: Nintendo Entertainment System (v. 20180803-121122)
File SHA-1: F83191749D019D75EB5FF95D247EF25882C2571A
File CRC32: 6B994B2
ROM SHA-1: 6E700E8F72F767918B096F6A5F17F8CD1E2D0866
ROM CRC32: EFB09075


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Here is the info that should help you move stuff around. This is for facing left. The rest should be similarly formatted and near this.

1589B   EYES VERTICAL
1589C   EYES HORIZONTAL
1589D   ROW 1 TILE 1 VERTICAL
1589E   ROW 1 TILE 1 HORIZONTAL
1589F   ROW 1 TILE 2 VERTICAL
158A0   ROW 1 TILE 2 HORIZONTAL
158A1   ROW 2 TILE 1 VERTICAL
158A2   ROW 2 TILE 1 HORIZONTAL
158A3   ROW 2 TILE 2 VERTICAL
158A4   ROW 2 TILE 2 HORIZONTAL
158A5   ROW 3 TILE 1 VERTICAL
158A6   ROW 3 TILE 1 HORIZONTAL
158A7   ROW 3 TILE 2 VERTICAL
158A8   ROW 3 TILE 2 HORIZONTAL
158A9   ROW 3 TILE 3 VERTICAL
158AA   ROW 3 TILE 3 HORIZONTAL
158AB   ROW 4 TILE 1 VERTICAL
158AC   ROW 4 TILE 1 HORIZONTAL
158AD   ROW 4 TILE 2 VERTICAL
158AE   ROW 4 TILE 2 HORIZONTAL
158AF   ROW 4 TILE 3 VERTICAL
158B0   ROW 4 TILE 3 HORIZONTAL"
« Last Edit: October 10, 2020, 10:10:58 am by tygerbug »

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Re: Della Duck playable in NES DuckTales and Ducktales 2! (Mesen HDPack)
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2020, 06:12:08 pm »
Database match: DuckTales (USA)
Database: No-Intro: Nintendo Entertainment System (v. 20180803-121122)
File SHA-1: F83191749D019D75EB5FF95D247EF25882C2571A
File CRC32: 6B994B2
ROM SHA-1: 6E700E8F72F767918B096F6A5F17F8CD1E2D0866
ROM CRC32: EFB09075

Thank you! I'll give it a try and tinker around.
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