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Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« on: December 06, 2018, 06:14:14 am »
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I should grab some popcorn and watch Nindendo's response to all this.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2018, 09:23:35 am »
Is there a suitable summary somewhere so I don't have to listen to some Youtuber ramble for ten minutes?

Here we go:

Soulja Boy is selling a console that’s basically an overpriced emulator
https://www.polygon.com/2018/12/5/18127315/soulja-boy-handheld-console-emulator-souljagame

As for whether this constitutes a "new low", I'd say "hip hop culture" has achieved some truly abysmal lows in the past.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 01:00:26 pm »
This is unrelated to hip-hop culture, some examples of which could be: making beats with your friends, rhyming about meaningful events and memories from your life, getting together with the crew for a music night, or dancing in front of your house with your family while listening to rap music.

When "artists" decide to "branch out" into "entrepreneurship", well, that's just a sign of the materialistic times.

If Depeche Mode released a MODEBOX packed with emulators and ROMs, would you say that pop music culture had reached a new low?


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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 10:37:53 pm »
This is unrelated to hip-hop culture, some examples of which could be: making beats with your friends, rhyming about meaningful events and memories from your life, getting together with the crew for a music night, or dancing in front of your house with your family while listening to rap music.
And gettin' down with the money and hoes with da drugs at da cluuuuub.

"That's not fair! That's only bad hip hop!" you may reply, despite the fact that "bad" hip hop has probably achieved broader cultural familiarity than "good" hip hop.  But fine: this may be a new low for bad hip hop culture.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2018, 01:03:10 pm »
And gettin' down with the money and hoes with da drugs at da cluuuuub.

"That's not fair! That's only bad hip hop!" you may reply, despite the fact that "bad" hip hop has probably achieved broader cultural familiarity than "good" hip hop.  But fine: this may be a new low for bad hip hop culture.

No, because "gettin' down with the money and hoes with da drugs at da cluuuuub" is still unrelated to making an emulator box full of ROMs.


I'll reword my original question just for fun:

If Trent Reznor released a NINBOX packed with emulators and ROMs, would you say that rock and roll culture had reached a new low?

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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2018, 10:45:37 pm »
I can't imagine Trent Reznor would do that.

Would you perhaps agree that "bad" hip hop artists seen to more conspicuously "branch out" into "entrepreneurship" more frequently than others?
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2018, 11:12:33 pm »
Now this is who Nintendo should be suing for 12 million dollars.

And now I'm going to say I've heard everything after the headline "Nintendo sues Soulja Boy for games console."

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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 12:26:36 am »
If Depeche Mode released a MODEBOX packed with emulators and ROMs, would you say that pop music culture had reached a new low?

To quote Hatsune Miku: "Hai!"

If Trent Reznor released a NINBOX packed with emulators and ROMs, would you say that rock and roll culture had reached a new low?

To quote Miku again: "Hai!"

I wish Natsumi Moe would release her own HD 4k console filled with 800 hentai games.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2018, 08:06:45 am »
This could land Soulja Boy in hot water where the law is concerned.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2018, 09:28:10 am »
This could land Soulja Boy in hot water where the law is concerned.
He could eat that 12 million, and chinese emulation consoles will circulate evermore even if the law has anything to say about it.

It'll be fun to see Nintendo react to it though.

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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2018, 01:27:32 pm »
In the end, this has probably bought Soulja Boy to the attention of many thousands who have been largely indifferent to his existence, so that counts for something.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2018, 03:53:20 pm »
I can't imagine Trent Reznor would do that.

He definitely wouldn't. The hypothetical scenario was only presented to illustrate that other genres wouldn't take a beating if their individual members attempted to bag some low hanging fruit in the most repugnant or undignified manner possible.

But real life examples are definitely where it's at:

-Did the Classical Music world shame itself when Yo-Yo Ma appeared in "Sex and the City" and in "Alias"? For that matter, has Classical Music lost its class because Alice Ott and Yuja Wang wear revealing clothing when they perform?

-Was Rock and Roll raised to artistic heights because David Bowie appeared in Fire Walk With Me, only to later plummet when he began selling lunchboxes emblazoned with his image? And did Synth Pop gain respect by association when Ryuichi Sakamoto starred with Bowie in Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence, long before the lunch boxes existed?

-Did Rock and Rock Culture later attain a new low when "Gene Simmons Family Jewels" hit the airwaves? What about our buddy Brett Michaels with his "Rock of Love"?

-Did Hip Hop Culture gain credibility and respect when Ice Cube appeared in such films as "Friday" and "Boyz in the Hood"? And if so, did it subsequently take a dive when LL Cool J started appearing in bland television shows?

-Did the collective social hygiene of vocalists take a plunge when that Jennifer Lopez doll hit the market?


Would you perhaps agree that "bad" hip hop artists seen to more conspicuously "branch out" into "entrepreneurship" more frequently than others?

No, although extremely loud "entrepreneurs" such as Kanye West definitely contribute to that perception. In general there's a wealth of shameless self promotion and self importance in all fields of entertainment. It's all about the money, as they have demonstrated.  They're all guilty across the board, from actors to musicians (the line between the two is not so clear these days).

By the way the biggest celebrity entrepreneurs are not Hip-Hop artists.

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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2018, 08:02:29 pm »
But real life examples are definitely where it's at:
I don't think any of those really compare with a "musician" releasing a video game console.  You could just as well ask if "Get Low" by "Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz" was some sort of low.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2018, 07:18:14 am »
'Kay, now this guy is launching a $400 "console", and starting his own Esports franchise.

Can someone please call Nintendo already so he can spend 20 years in jail? Please? For Christmas?
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2018, 09:41:10 am »
Hip hop culture is american pop culture.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2018, 07:23:27 pm »
I don't think any of those really compare with a "musician" releasing a video game console.  You could just as well ask if "Get Low" by "Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz" was some sort of low.

It's not about how extreme the actions are, but rather the pattern: The indiscretions of an individual usually prompt backlash from their own fans and fellows, but rappers are quickly lumped together when anyone steps out of line. This may or may not be rooted in a general dislike of hip-hop culture / rap music but it's worth pointing out.

You're right about the examples not comparing to launching a rip-off console. Actually some of the examples I gave highlight outrageous responses to fairly innocuous actions that are nonetheless still not leveled against an entire community.

Take the reaction to Yuja Wang's clothing, which has prompted some really stupid commentary from Classical Music lovers. She is held responsible for spitting their culture into the gutter merely by dressing like the young lady that she is. It's kind of funny when you think about it. She kills it on the piano, and it's all about the music, right? Speaking of which. The real sin here is that Soulja Boy was ever allowed near a mic.

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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2018, 10:34:44 am »
Hip hop culture is american pop culture.

If it is, maybe that's why it has reached a new low.
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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2018, 11:25:51 am »
Apparently Nintendo knows now, and the prospect of a lawsuit is certainly looming.  I wonder if the fact that he's dropshipping is keeping them from immediately destroying him?

Also he's running around spouting F bombs over this.  And not of the four letter variety... ew.

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Re: Wow. Hip hop culture just reached a new low....
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2018, 01:09:25 pm »
Also he's running around spouting F bombs over this.  And not of the four letter variety... ew.

Rappers running around saying respect all the time is not exactly a new concept.