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pec and McAfee
« on: August 13, 2017, 07:20:48 am »
I was using McAfee to scan my hard drive today, and it detected that pec (PlayStation Emulation Cheater) setup program to be a virus.

I thought that only my copy of pec was infected, so I went to the official website, and McAfee says it's an attack site or something.

I try downloading pec from an alternate source, and McAfee detects it as a virus.

Is anyone else getting the same results?

If this is a false positive, is there an antivirus that is just as good as McAfee minus these sorts of false positives?
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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2017, 10:28:30 am »
Why not "upgrade" to PCSX Reloaded, or some latter fork with cheating support?

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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2017, 03:35:31 pm »
"an antivirus that is just as good as McAfee"
Tea leaves, reading entrails, hope... all suitable alternatives to McAfee in my book. Though actually I might be telling lies as those methods would leave enough system resources for a virus to actually run.

You can try feeding the relevant files to https://www.virustotal.com/ and seeing what it says*. More likely though is the heuristics got set off as it detected it is the sort of program to reach out and touch another's memory which is a trait common to debugging/programming tools, cheat programs like this, actual malware and programs to remove said malware -- most other things don't do it and basically every programming style guide will say don't do it.

*I fed it the direct link to the program and
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Detection ratio: 0/68

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This file was last analysed by VirusTotal on 2017-08-13 04:11:10 UTC (15 hours, 25 minutes ago) it was first analysed by VirusTotal on 2006-05-23 19:36:38 UTC.

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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 05:31:46 pm »
Why not "upgrade" to PCSX Reloaded, or some latter fork with cheating support?

Hmmm.

I know there is a version of pSX that has cheating support with GameShark/Action Replay/Code Breaker support, but it does so because it has the ISOs built into the emulator. You have to load the cheats at the start, and you cannot switch cheats on and off on the fly.

With pec, I can turn cheats on and off while playing, without having to reset the "PlayStation".

Can PCSX Reloaded do what pec does with switching the codes on and off without having to reset the game? Is the cheat function built into the emulator, or do I have to get a separate plugin?

As for alternative anti-virus, I was looking at the paid version of ZoneAlarm and it has even higher requirements than McAfee. Any suggestions?
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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2017, 06:00:50 pm »
Yeah, it is a plain cheating system, with searching function and works running (theoretically, it is a pause, as you have to get out of the execution).

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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2017, 06:20:33 pm »
Does Bitdefender or ZoneAlarm pick up false positives like this?
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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2017, 04:24:01 am »
Does Bitdefender or ZoneAlarm pick up false positives like this?

Everything will have false positives as it is the nature of heuristics, or at least the ones any AV company would tune for sale (for AV purposes it seems people deal with false positives far more easily than they deal with false negatives). I would cover my feelings on anti virus but it appears there is an issue of bofh that says it all far more humorously than I will manage
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/08/bofh_2014_episode_11/

Do you have a problem with microsoft security essentials/windows defender? Or are we still going off those questionable tests from a few years back? Couple that with some common sense, a properly set up browser (ad blocking, security features turned up a bit, if you can handle it some script blocking, uninstall flash if you can...), maybe use some sandboxing and also properly set up Windows (some things can punch through UAC but not many) and you can enjoy about as good a time as you are going to get. Running without AV is not the wisest plan but AV itself is increasingly useless.

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Re: pec and McAfee
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2017, 03:10:02 pm »
Do you have a problem with microsoft security essentials/windows defender? Or are we still going off those questionable tests from a few years back?

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