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Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« on: March 06, 2015, 06:07:17 am »
Hey guys,

I'm revising text for release and these two lines are giving me trouble.

If I got this right, the two pilots are discussing their peacekeeping organization's role in the ongoing war.

そうやって、どっちも自分が可愛いからこっそり色々やるのに、

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外面の平和を守ってる俺達みたいな組織が必要だって事。

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Re: Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 01:25:23 pm »
I'll give this a shot, but context would help. I hope I'm not totally off the mark. :)

そうやって、どっちも自分が可愛いからこっそり色々やるのに、

See, we're both cute, so we can do stuff in secret.

外面の平和を守ってる俺達みたいな組織が必要だって事。

But there has to be a group like us to keep the illusion of peace.

The bottom speaker is male, and the top is probably female. (Guys don't use 可愛い to describe themselves.)
Soon the super karate monkey death car would park in my space. But Jimmy has fancy plans... and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate round and yummy like cute small baby chick would beat the donkey.

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Re: Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 11:07:01 pm »
Thanks for help me out, much appreciated! :)

Here's more of what comes before and after these two sentences:

Company 1= Neucom, instigator of the war
Company 2= General, after a ceasefire agreement was reached, they attack Neucom after just one day
Company 3= UPEO, these pilots belong to UPEO, a peacekeeping organization

Female pilot:
ねぇ、ニューコムの次はゼネラル……。
Hey, first Neucom, then General...
誰が私たちにとって本当の敵?                   
Who's our real enemy here?
Male pilot:
そうやって、どっちも自分が可愛いからこっそり色々やるのに、

外面の平和を守ってる俺達みたいな組織が必要だって事。

そうそう、世間が言うようにUPEOはハリボテの虎なんだろ。
So yeah, I guess that means UPEO is a paper tiger after all, just as society says.
Female pilot:
理想だけの治安維持なんて誰がほしいと思う?
Who do you think would want only the ideal of peacekeeping?
Male pilot:
さぁね。
Beats me.
Female pilot:
ほんと、考えても無駄ね。
Yeah, it would be pointless, right?
(end of scene)

I just can't get a lock on a final edit because I don't know what he means by "Doing things secretly", it can't be the war itself since it's on the news every time, maybe deals or agreements, and how that line relates to his other one.

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Re: Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 03:57:47 am »
No problem! Thanks for the context. That helps a ton!

I think the two lines are:

そうやって、どっちも自分が可愛いからこっそり色々やるのに、
Good question! They're both squeaky clean, so they do lots of stuff in secret.

外面の平和を守ってる俺達みたいな組織が必要だって事。
But there has to be a group like us to keep the illusion of peace.

I'm still not sure what 可愛い refers to, but it sounds like the male pilot is saying that Neucom and General both look like good guys, but do a lot of shady stuff behind the scenes. The whole tone of the conversation is that UPEO has no real power, and only exists to keep the illusion of peace.

I hope this helps. :)
Soon the super karate monkey death car would park in my space. But Jimmy has fancy plans... and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate round and yummy like cute small baby chick would beat the donkey.

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Re: Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 04:19:28 am »
Thanks a lot, man! This part was giving me a lot of trouble but thanks to you I can resume editing.

BTW, I just added you to the project's special thanks  :thumbsup:

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Re: Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2015, 07:52:38 pm »
No problem! Thanks for the context. That helps a ton!

I think the two lines are:

そうやって、どっちも自分が可愛いからこっそり色々やるのに、
Good question! They're both squeaky clean, so they do lots of stuff in secret.

外面の平和を守ってる俺達みたいな組織が必要だって事。
But there has to be a group like us to keep the illusion of peace.

I'm still not sure what 可愛い refers to, but it sounds like the male pilot is saying that Neucom and General both look like good guys, but do a lot of shady stuff behind the scenes. The whole tone of the conversation is that UPEO has no real power, and only exists to keep the illusion of peace.

I hope this helps. :)

Dunno.. to be honest, because of the comma after のに, I feel like this is a line break issue and that both of these are actually part of the same sentence. Thus, we'd want to swap the other of these sentences or rewrite it a bit.

Thus, the full sentence is:

そうやって、どっちも自分が可愛いからこっそり色々やるのに、外面の平和を守ってる俺達みたいな組織が必要だって事。
There has to be a group like us to keep the illusion of peace in secret, since they both want to keep themselves looking clean.

At least that's my take on it.

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Re: Can anyone help me out with two sentences?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2015, 04:20:34 am »
Thanks for the input, Seihen.

I uploaded a video clip here with my edit: http://tinyurl.com/l2ythhv

I'm mostly happy the way it is right now but I'm not 100% sure.