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Space Station Silicon Valley on the N64 had a bug that prevented players from finishing the game. One of the collectable items - the gold tap on the level Fat Bear Mountain - could not be obtained because the character would always walk right though it. This meant that you couldn't finish the game.

The way I see it, there are two ways I might finish this game. The first and simplest way is a cheat code to give you the gold tap. The other way would be a patch, so that when you touch the gold tap you get it.

Do either of these exist and if not would anyone like to make one of them? It wasn't a hugely popular game, but it was fun. I thought was a shame that it had this bug and I think it would be great if it could be fixed. Is anyone up for trying?

Thanks :-)

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 10:50:53 pm »
People don't like requests around here, just saying...

Now if you wanted to learn the ropes and attempt the hack and you are asking for help then people might be a wee bit more receptive.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 12:40:27 am »
People like requests, as long as they are made in the appropriate place.

And what he needs is a cheat code, not a rom hack, so I don't know why is he even posting this here.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 03:13:19 am »
Try this.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 10:08:19 am »
Now if you wanted to learn the ropes and attempt the hack and you are asking for help then people might be a wee bit more receptive.

Ha. People still say that stuff? It might surprise you to learn that the world doesn't work by everyone trying to do everything from scratch themselves. Productivity would be extremely low. People work in their chosen specialist skill set, and everyone benefits. It's only ever programmers who think that everyone should adopt their skill set in addition to their own. Yet they have no intention to build their own furniture, car or anything else outside their personal skill set. It's narrow minded. Not all programmers of course, just many. I think mostly young ones who haven't worked the world out yet. It would be foolish for me to attempt this one-off hack myself when I could pay someone up to the value of my time to do it for me, wouldn't it?

And what he needs is a cheat code, not a rom hack, so I don't know why is he even posting this here.

Didn't anyone ever tell you it's rude to refer to someone indirectly in the third person?
I said a cheat code or a patch. How could I have been more accurate? I don't know which one is easier to make in this case, but I'm certain that neither exist.

Try this.

Unfortunately that just seems to tell you how to get the tap to appear. It doesn't solve the bug which prevents you from picking it up.

I have a feeling I won't be back to this forum.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 11:51:55 am »
Something this minor, I do wonder how much work it would entail.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2013, 12:09:34 pm by justin3009 »
'We have to find some way to incorporate the general civilians in the plot.'

'We'll kill off children in the Juuban district with an infection where they cough up blood and are found hanging themselves from cherry blossom trees.'

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 11:58:18 am »
The way I see it, there are two ways I might finish this game. The first and simplest way is a cheat code to give you the gold tap.
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Bonus Level:
As you may know, there is a problem in the level, "Fat Bear Mountan". It is impossable to get the souvenir on this level due to a manufacturing error. You can see it, but can't get it; you just walk through it. To solve this, go to the starting screen where all the levels to pick from are (it is in a big circle). When you're there press Down, Up, Z, L, Down, Left, Z, Down on controller 1. This will give you the bonus asteroid level that you would get if you were to collect all of the souvenirs.
Doesn't give you the gold tap but gives you the benifit of getting it and getting 100% by letting you play bonus level. I know... not exactly what you're looking for.  :)

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 02:46:06 pm »
Why would a game company make a game that you couldn't finish. Were they so rushed that they themselves didn't even give it a test play? Apparently the beta testers didn't even finish the game either. I mean it doesn't make any sense.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 03:57:27 pm »
Sometimes things happen to software after the fact to make it break; unforeseen differences between development and customer environments, stuff like that. Usually, though, back in the day, yeah, not enough testing. It was the 90s, and the “Wild West” approach to game development was slowly moving underground, but clearly could make its way to the N64 despite that.

There are, in fact, a lot of games that really shouldn’t be unwinnable, either through serious oversights and less testing than necessary to weed them out, or through very unusual gameplay. One commonly cited example is the Atari 7800 port of Impossible Mission (because I guess video game historians really like ironically literal titles).
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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 08:06:41 pm »
Fortunately, we live in an era where games could easily be patched to remove bugs and programming oversights.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 06:39:18 am »
Yet they have no intention to build their own furniture, car or anything else outside their personal skill set. It's narrow minded.

Absolutely, every car mechanic or carpenter will gladly do everything for free for you just because you asked on a forum.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 09:54:12 am »
Absolutely, every car mechanic or carpenter will gladly do everything for free for you just because you asked on a forum.

Many would, however, at least point someone in the right direction: "sounds like an alternator problem," or "check the wiper relay." Obviously, there's little desire to do hours of hacking for Marsmite, but giving--at the very least--a rote explanation of the problem may point him in the right direction.

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Re: Space Station Silicon Valley: Gold tap patch / cheat code?
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 12:09:19 pm »
SSSV isn't one I've done the compression for yet (probably zlib--really common). 
Chances are it's little more than an object attribute or script error.  I'm still in the process of unpacking, but once I'm moved in, nail down the problem, and get the compression worked out that certainly deserves a patch.

It is odd though, since I'm fairly certain there's an APS patch for exactly that made a long, long while ago.  You might want to check over at assemblergames's forum.  There's a fair number of people from the old N64 scene over there.