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FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« on: April 18, 2012, 03:22:20 pm »
シーフ  ->  SHI-FU  ->  Thief

かすめる  ->  kasumeru  ->  Snatch
敵からギルを盗む  ->  teki kara GIRU wo nusumu  ->  Steal gil from the enemy.

とんずら  ->  tonzura  ->  Escape
戦闘から逃げ出す  ->  sentou kara nigedasu  ->  Run away from battle.

トレジャーハント  ->  TOREJA-HANTO  ->  Treasure Hunt
敵がアイテムを落としやすくなる  ->  teki ga AITEMU wo otoshi yasuku naru  ->  Enemies drop their items more easily.

ぬすむ  ->  nusumu  ->  Steal
敵からアイテムをぬすむ  ->  teki kara AITEMU wo nusumu  ->  Steal an item from the enemy.

警戒  ->  keikai  ->  Vigilance
不意打ちとバックアタックを防ぐ  ->  fuiuchi to bakkuatakku wo fusegu  ->  Prevent surprise and back attacks.

速さ10%アップ  ->  hayasa10%APPU  ->  Agility 10% Up
速さが10%アップする  ->  hayasa ga 10% APPU suru  ->  Agility is raised by 10%.

ぶんどる  ->  bundoru  ->  Mug
敵に攻撃を与えアイテムをぬすむ  ->  teki ni kougeki wo atae AITEMU wo nusumu  ->  Attack the enemy, steal an item.

レアハント  ->  REAHANTO  ->  Rare Hunt
敵がレアアイテムを落としやすくなる  ->  teki ga REA AITEMU wo otoshi yasuku naru  ->  Enemies drop their rare items more easily.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2012, 12:44:29 pm by Vanya »

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Re: FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 03:38:44 pm »
Wrong やすい - it's 易い (easy). I would translate these as "Enemies drop (rare) items more often."

Also, ぬすむ is 盗む (steal). "Steal items when attacking an enemy." I'm pretty sure they call it "Mug" in the official translations.
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Re: FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 04:03:12 pm »
Wrong やすい - it's 易い (easy). I would translate these as "Enemies drop (rare) items more often."

I figured this was the case, but I wanted to be sure.


Also, ぬすむ is 盗む (steal). "Steal items when attacking an enemy." I'm pretty sure they call it "Mug" in the official translations.

There are some newer translations that use Plunder instead of Mug. Plunder seems a better translation to me because it matches the actual action better. Plunder means to assault a place or person then steal. To mug is more like threatening to harm someone so that they give up their belongings and doesn't necessarily include a physical assault. For my purposes I'm sticking to translations that are as literal as possible while making sure they jive with logic and the actual actions in the game as well.

Thanks for your help!
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 04:31:17 pm by Vanya »

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Re: FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 01:37:15 am »
Mug does necessarily include physical assault. In dated usage, it actually just means to hit someone.
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Re: FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 03:00:27 pm »
Actually, the definitions I've seen say specifically that they may or may not include a physical assault.
This was my logic for my decision:
I thought that mug didn't include an attack by definition or if it did it should come after getting the goods.
I thought about plunder, that it carries a connotation that it would always include an assault all be it on normally a large scale. If that makes sense.
Also, I'm splitting same named abilities that have different effects since this documentation I'm doing encompasses the entire FF series.
However if it can include an attack, especially if you don't differentiate whether it comes before or after the theft, then I can't say no to it.

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Re: FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 03:47:12 pm »
Well, if newer games use Plunder, then use that.
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Re: FFL:WoL&D --- Thief abilities & descritions
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 10:21:11 am »
I tend to value accuracy over established localization convention.