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100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« on: July 02, 2011, 03:47:25 am »
Hello.  I need help in translating the last 100 card descriptions in Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 4.

I could just go to the Yu-Gi-Oh! wikia and take the US translations, but there's a slight problem with doing that.  A lot of effect cards do not have an effect and some of the trap/magic cards have an edited effect, or just a very basic one.

If anyone was willing to take a peek at them, I've put them up here:
http://xtranslations.freeservers.com/DM4CARDS.html

If you are willing, and need to know the card names that correspond to the numbers you'll see, just let me know. 

Getting these done would mean all I would need is just the menu graphics and 'campaign' text to complete.

Thanks in advance to anyone that reads this.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 03:34:53 pm »
First of all, you might want to know about that website for reference purpose :
http://www.imasaragame.com/yugioh4/

Now, I'll give you a translation for the cards with effects.

832 Obelisk the impartial soldier?
Destroy all summoned monsters.
Deal 4000 damage.
(a mean effect)

833 Osiris Sky (Celestial?) Dragon
Possess the effect of powering up based
in the number of cards only in your hand.
(Meh)

834 Ra Greed (?) Dragon
Is able to summon to your field
monsters in the graveyards and your opponent monster.
(Basically you get the monsters from both graveyard and steal a monster on top of that.
An effect you don't want to face!)

891 Peace emissary
Make monster with more than 1500 attack
unable to move for one turn.

892 Darkness's visit
All of your own monsters are put face down.

893 Final War
Destroy all of the opponent and your own
summoned monsters, traps and hands.
(Black Hole on steroids.
The picture on the card looks like an atomic cloud.)

894 Big Storm (Heavy Storm in the U.S.)
Destroy all of the opponent and your own
summoned monsters and traps.
(Black Hole on a bit less steroids)

895 Dead's Rebirth (also translated by others as Raise Dead)
Summon to your own field
the monster in your opponent's graveyard.

896 Gravedigger Ghoul
The Gravedigger Ghoul will take away all of  the graveyard's monsters.

897 Torrential Burial (like the Yugioh wikia say)
If an attack is declared,
all of the field's monsters/monster on the field will be annihilated.

898 Beckoning to the darkness.
The strongest monster on your opponent field
is being destroyed.

899 Messiah (?) antlion
The card who declared an attack is unable to move for one turn,
caught in the antlion's trap.

900 7 Card
Possess the ability
to power up Slot Machine.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 04:34:38 pm »
You got 天空竜 right, but it's 巨神兵 and 翼神竜. It helps to do your research in this line of work (or be an obsessive Yu-Gi-Oh! fan :3).

It's worth noting that in the original manga, the names on the Egyptian God Cards are in English, and by that token we have "The God of Obelisk," "Saint Dragon - The God of Osiris," and "The Sun of God Dragon" (i.e. "Dragon of the Divine Sun"). In the U.S. version, they are Obelisk the Tormentor, Slifer the Sky Dragon, and The Winged Dragon of Ra. And while there is a part of me that rejects the Slifer name on principle (it's an in-joke referring to 4Kids employee Roger Slifer), I'm also an absolute fiend for consistency.

Anyway, if you haven't gotten the rest of the official names already:

891 - Emissary of Peace
892 - Darkness Approaches
893 - Final Destiny
894 - Heavy Storm
895 - Monster Reborn
896 - Gravedigger Ghoul
897 - Torrential Tribute
898 - Beckon to the Dark (anime-only; name comes from Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia)
899 - Infinite Dismissal
900 - 7 Completed

Don't forget to revise the card effect text so it matches the style of the TCG. :3 (The new Problem-Solving Card Text is maybe a bit much to ask, of course. ^_^;)

EDIT: On a random note, am I the only one who vastly prefers the U.S. name for Messiah's Antlion? Seriously: whatever that is on the card, it's no antlion. And I'm pretty sure "messiah" is just there to sound cool in uniquely inappropriate Japanese style.
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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 06:27:41 pm »
Thank you very much for the effect cards translations.  Much appreciated.

Edit:
For 897 - Torrential Burial, does this work if you attack as well or only if attacked?  Also, every card on the field or just the opponents?

Not sure right now as I still can't use it yet on my save.  Slowly getting there, but was curious if anyone knew off the top of their head.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2011, 04:51:29 am by MegamanX »

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 10:33:26 am »
It's only triggered by the opponent, not by you.
And its on both sides on the field which is why they don't mention which side is affected.
It's a trap version of Dark/Black Hole.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 01:49:31 pm »
Just FYI, in IRL, Torrential Tribute still wipes the field, but it's activated in response to a summon, rather than an attack.

Mirror Force activates in response to an attack, but it only wipes your opponent's attack-position monsters (which, realistically, usually means "everything on his side of the field"). There are also "weaker" versions such as Sakuretsu Armor, which destroys only the attacking monster, and Dimensional Prison, which banishes the attacker instead.
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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 03:18:11 am »
Much appreciated.

I needed to clarify because I'm limited to 36 characters.  18 between two lines.  So, my biggest problem is basically keeping what it says into that limitation.  I've done a pretty good job so far in my opinion.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2011, 02:52:22 pm »
I decided to (try to) translate a few more cards if you don't mind.
Oh and I am conscious that if picked, you'll have to cut text in my translations. ^^;;;

801 - The severe/strict old magician (known as the Stern Mystic in English).
In front of this old man,
all lies shall be seen through.

802 - Evil Sword Baron (Baron of the Fiend Sword in English).
A noble/aristocrat manipulating/wielding a grudge/hatred filled sword.
Is very/extremely tenacious/vengeful.

803 - Shine Abyss (Shining Abyss in English, insert "Shine Get" joke here).
A monster that possess both the power of light
and the power of darkness.

804 - Insect Larva
An hatched larva from the Insect Queen's egg.

Note : might be somewhat inaccurate as the expression for egg is "うんだたまご" (undatamago)
and I wasn't able to find a satisfactory explanation. ^^;
"Unda" come from "生んだ", the verb "to be born".
Maybe here it means that the larva just came from the egg?

805 - Soldier Ant
A ant which its hard body has went brutally into mutation.
(For some reason, I am thinking of Giant Growth of Magic The Gathering)

806 - Iron Knight Gear Freed (spelling?) (Gearfried the Iron Knight in English)
A warrior whose whole body is covered by steel/armor,
nothing is able to go through (him/it).

807 - Humanoid Slime
A slime who took a human shape,
the human gene was included/put in it.

808 - Worm Drake
Should it enfold/drag into/roll up by its long body,
in the end it would not be possible to escape/run away a second time.

Note: The translation feel a bit iffy. ^^;
on top of that, I am not sure if "にど" stand for second time. ^^;

809 - Humanoid Drake (Humanoid Worm Drake in English)
The monster that Humanoid Slime and Worm Drake fused into.

810 - Revival Slime (Revival Jam in English)
A slime that is said to revive again/one more time
when he is defeated and defeated.

Or maybe this translation would be closer in meaning :

A slime that is said to revive again and again
when he is defeated.

By the way, thanks for the following website as a refence, if only to show the kanjis
as the game text is only written in kana :
http://yugioh-wiki.net/index.php?%A5%C8%A5%C3%A5%D7%A5%DA%A1%BC%A5%B8

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2011, 03:18:05 pm »
I remember translating these.

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801 - The Stern Mystic
An aged sage whose presence strips away all falsehood and deceit.

802 - Baron of the Fiend Sword
A nobleman whose blade drips with malice. He will not rest until he achieves his vengeance.

803 - Shining Abyss
A monster which wields the powers of both light and darkness.

804 - Insect Larva
A larva which emerged from an egg laid by the Insect Queen.

805 - Soldier Ant
An ant which suddenly mutated into a ferocious monster. Its carapace is nigh-impenetrable.

806 - Gearfried the Iron Knight
A warrior covered in steel from head to toe. There is nothing that can pierce his armor.

807 - Humanoid Slime
This slime apparently has some human genes in its genetic makeup. (Official)

808 - Worm Drake
Once this monster wraps itself around a victim, there is no escape. (Official)

809 - Humanoid Worm Drake
"Worm Drake" + "Humanoid Slime" (Official)

810 - Revival Jam
A slime that resurrects itself no matter how many times it is defeated.

Look, I know there have been a lot of stupid mistakes in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh!'s localization, but for consistency's sake, you really should at least try to use the official card names whenever possible.
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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2011, 05:15:35 pm »
Look, I know there have been a lot of stupid mistakes in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh!'s localization, but for consistency's sake, you really should at least try to use the official card names whenever possible.
I disagree.

Using different names just because they were in the official stuff (like Iron Knight Gearfried instead of Gearfried the Iron Knight) is dumb. Not fixing localization mistakes, however, is also dumb. Not that I'm saying either of you is doing any of that here.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 06:07:26 pm »
It's a matter of context. Me, I hate the freakin' Slifer name, but the point behind a translation like this should be, for professionalism's sake, to match up with what's already out there. There's a time and place for fixing mistakes, and I'd argue that this isn't it. People who are fans of the game are going to be playing this patch, and they'll appreciate you getting the names "right" - even if Konami technically got them wrong.

Granted, I'd have few qualms about using "Hurricane" over nonsense like "Giant Trunade," but saying it should be "Iron Knight Gear Freed" instead of "Gearfried the Iron Knight" ventures perilously close to the club that gets all its card names off of Babelfish.
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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2011, 11:17:40 pm »
Why not make two patches? And just make the main patch have all the 4Kids nonsense names that way the general public will see consistency and be happy, but then in an extras section of the zip file or uploaded beside the original patch should be one where the names either correspond with their Japanese ones or are close localizations thereof.  Then people who hate the ridiculousness of Slifer and other such things will feel like they're playing a cooler, more well put together game.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 12:55:23 am »
I'd agree with that solution, but first let's decide what constitutes a "name change." I don't see any reason to reject names simply because they aren't a literal translation, or because they're a legitimate or slightly tweaked translation that doesn't match the common fan translation. I'd never argue in favor of, say, "Fushioh Richie" over "Nosferatu Lich" on its own merits, but when you have "Delinquent Duo" vs. "Mischievous Demon Twins," I'd lean more towards the former for sheer euphony.
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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2011, 03:56:27 am »
From the last topic I made where I needed some help with things, I already decided to make 2 patches.  1 using the names that were translated for me like...8 years ago.  The other using official card names and just the card names.  I hate, with a passion, character names like Mai Valentine and Joey Wheeler.

Here's examples of what I have picked randomly from my files.  I'm hoping some of the ones I put here will show what I'm doing and that it's alright.  I'm just a bit lazy to check on just exactly which ones differ from the official US names and what not.  Copying and pasting from my document on GameFAQs.

16            71625222    Time Magician
24            32274490    Wight
25            69669405    Imp
35            46986414    Black Magician
55            41762634    Bloodsucking Flea
158           93553943    Man Eater
217           11901678    Black Demon Dragon
228           17733394    Forest Corpse
253           37160778    Angel Witch
254           64154377    Immature Demon
337           12580477    Thunder Bolt
484           95174353    Amoeba
559           82065276    Oscillioscope Hero
723           03797883    Slot Machine AM-7 (I refuse to just use Slot Machine considering the game has AM-7 at the end)
759           91635482    Killer Doll
786           26725158    Exorcism
787           90330453    Witch Hunt
788           99518961    Revolution
The God of Obelisk
The God of Osiris
The Dragon God Ra

That's just some.  Every time Ryusui, and others, discuss the names, I always look at what I have and what space I have in the game (18 characters).  I have changed a few names already due to the discussions that take place, but not all of them.

Don't know if that will answer some questions (probably not).

Anyway, I appreciate discussions and the translations very much.  Thanks folks.

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Re: 100 Duel Monsters 4 Card Descriptions
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2011, 04:12:05 am »
A word of advice: if the original says "Akuma," better to translate as "Devil" than "Demon." "Demon" has a very specific significance in Yu-Gi-Oh!: from set 305 onward, it's officially an archetype (a.k.a. "Archfiend" in the U.S.).

If you're going to translate rather than copy, then at least take care to make the differences less jarring. I'd never ask you to use the dub names for the characters, but I once drafted a few card lists for various expansions which used a synthesis of the official U.S. and Japanese names - "Delinquent Devil Duo," just to use an obvious example.

By that token:

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16            71625222    Time Magician
24            32274490    Wight
25            69669405    Imp
35            46986414    Black Magician
55            41762634    Bloodsucking Flea
158           93553943    Man Eater
217           11901678    Black Demons Dragon
228           17733394    Wood Remains
253           37160778    Angelwitch
254           64154377    Embryonic Devil
337           12580477    Thunder Bolt
484           95174353    Ameba
559           82065276    Oscillo Hero
723           03797883    Slot Machine AM-7 (I refuse to just use Slot Machine considering the game has AM-7 at the end)
759           91635482    Killer Doll
786           26725158    Exorcism
787           90330453    Witch Hunt
788           99518961    Revolution
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