I don't like the rule that addendum patches can only work on a pre-patched ROM. Why make the end-user jump through hoops to get a game they want to play? As long as proper credit is given, who cares? Has anybody complained? It's ridiculous. Besides, some of the addenda I've made recently don't apply to this rule, because they're intended for different ROMs than the original translation (Famicom Wars, Tales of Phantasia).
I'm fine with that. I think people did complain back in the day, and it was thought of as better ethics at the time. However, we didn't have the credit system that we do now back then. So, that's probably an obsolete point now. Also, there is the case for having addendums not being tied to a particular version of the base hack. That was brought up somewhat recently actually (can't recall where).
We can probably make new topic and take a vote on this. No objection from me.
And I'm sure there will always be edge cases, but I think a distinction should be made between "a hack of a game translation" and "a hack of a game that happens to be translated".
Sure. What are your proposed revised guidelines? Make them black and white enough for Zynk or he'll explode and quit after all the headaches this classification has given him!
This may be a more difficult task than it first appears. There has been numerous discussions and disagreements on this topic.
Really, if we take this rule through its natural course, any ROM hack of a translated game, ever, would be considered a "translation". Are we never going to have any FF5 hacks, unless they can be applied to the Japanese ROM? I'm really not sure why this rule change was made in the first place.
I think it was made because it was equally ridiculous to look in the Hacks section for third-party updates to older translation patches. Then there were the retranslation patches submitted in the Hacks section. Then there were translations of hacks trying to be put in the translation section. There was a whole cart load of stuff in the Hacks section that belonged in the Translation section. Zynk can probably add more here. So, it ended up at something that was pretty cut and dry on where something goes with Addendum's in both sections. It's just not necessarily as ideal or logical as we'd like.
I'd say be very careful about trying to put that cart load BACK in the Hacks section. Some scrutiny and care on any exceptions made is definitely needed. There is no direct conversion between hacks and translation either because nobody wanted me to combine the Hacks and Translations section
to best fix these problems. I always thought translations were just a specialized category for Hacks...
I don't know why every entry doesn't have a list of addendum hacks below it (if applicable), making it really easy to tell what's out there. As it is, people don't know about these addenda unless they're specifically looking for them. Plus, on each addendum page, you could have a big section that reads "Requires [such and such hack]" that links back to the original.
I'd like that too, but that information doesn't exist. One time I was going to add some more fields for this, but then I found people added Addendums to the site for base hacks that weren't even on the site! Then, some refused to add it when asked. People are so lazy... I know there were also some Addendum entries where you don't even know what it's for because it's not even linked in the description (have no idea how such stuff got approved...).
I had no way to even get the data to link many of them together so I quit on that! As it stands it's sadly not possible to do what you suggest.