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Title: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: RHDNBot on April 13, 2006, 11:20:25 am
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Update By: Nightcrawler

The most active ROM hacking resource and news site on the net has been working hard to continue to meet it's goal of putting the power in YOUR hands. It is with great pleasure that we announce the ability for public Documents and Utilities submissions!

Just like our Hacks section has already, you can now add entries directly into our database (subject to staff screening) for your favorite documents and utilities. This is YOUR database. If something isn't there that you think should be, you can now add it yourself! We are continuing our mission to remove the staff bottleneck (visitors having to rely on staff to do everything). Ultimately, the staff's purpose on this site is for maintenance, and screening. It's up to YOU to add the content you think belongs here. It's up to YOU to turn YOUR archive into the biggest and best it can be.

Add your Documents, Utilities, and Hacks here on the Submit Files Page (http:///?page=submitfiles).

Other New Additions to the Site:


Relevant Link: (http://www.romhacking.net)
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Kitsune Sniper on April 13, 2006, 03:30:10 pm
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Collapsable Sticky Posts - By popular demand, stickies are now collapsable! Go ahead and try it with this one!

Slaik! This isn't a sticky! :D
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Nightcrawler on April 13, 2006, 06:51:41 pm
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Collapsable Sticky Posts - By popular demand, stickies are now collapsable! Go ahead and try it with this one!

Slaik! This isn't a sticky! :D

:P I COULD code it to actually mimic the news and make a sticky here on the board but that's too much work.
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: filler on April 13, 2006, 07:08:01 pm
I have one question. What happens when there is a version update of a document or utility? Will it overwrite the old one or does it have to be a separate instance?
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: KaioShin on April 13, 2006, 07:39:44 pm
I have one question. What happens when there is a version update of a document or utility? Will it overwrite the old one or does it have to be a separate instance?

Ouch, you hit the weak spot  :P We haven't found a solution to that yet. In the meanwhile submit it like a new file and make it clear so we realize it's an update and we'll handle things manually.
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Kurasu on April 14, 2006, 09:35:00 am
I have one question. What happens when there is a version update of a document or utility? Will it overwrite the old one or does it have to be a separate instance?

Ouch, you hit the weak spot  :P We haven't found a solution to that yet.

Well, I'm not sure if you could automate it, but could you make a pull-down option for 'update', so at the very least, staff automatically knows which ones are to be checked as updates?
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Nightcrawler on April 14, 2006, 01:30:52 pm
Yeah, that's a fine idea.  However, I haven't done that because I haven't decided what is going to be done in general about updates.

It's NOT a TECHNICAL problem. I CAN code a solution.  The problem is HOW to make it easiest for the public to do and understand.

1.As staff, we simply have an EDIT button next to each entry in the database that we can edit and bring up the filled in form and make whatever changes we need.

That IS one option to do for the public, but then we're hogging screen space on every entry with an 'Edit' button. Some sections are already crowded.

2. The simplest solution is to automatically detect an updated entry submitted, but HERE'S the problem. WHAT do we base that on? The title is the only logical thing I can think of. If we do that, the user MUST enter the title EXACTLY as it was or the system won't automatically recognize it as an update.  I suspect not many people will be compentent enough to understand and do that. This is based on the fact that many people don't even fill out the form correctly as it is.


So, we're still thinking over the best ways to handle it. Any other suggestions or input is certainly welcome.
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on April 14, 2006, 04:32:36 pm
How about a checkbox on the form that says "This is an update to" or somesuch and you pick the original from a pulldown list?
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Nightcrawler on April 14, 2006, 05:26:18 pm
How about a checkbox on the form that says "This is an update to" or somesuch and you pick the original from a pulldown list?


I should mention one more problem.. If someone submits an update, why should they have to redo the description and what not. They should only need to say, update the file. Most of the other information will stay the same.

That's not possible unless there is some way to pick an item beforehand so the form is prefilled out.

Now, on to your suggestion. I'm not really sure what you're saying.  Are you suggestion, you have a pull down with ALL database entries and you pick one?
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Kitsune Sniper on April 14, 2006, 07:32:32 pm
Either way, I have one request:

If you update a document, keep the previous versions on the site for reference (but unavailable to the general public). That way, if one doc gets borked between versions, you'll still have an older version to fall back on.
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: RedComet on April 14, 2006, 07:44:34 pm
Either way, I have one request:

If you update a document, keep the previous versions on the site for reference (but unavailable to the general public). That way, if one doc gets borked between versions, you'll still have an older version to fall back on.

Nightcrawler can clarify this, but currently orphaned files are checked for and removed at a fixed interval right now. Unless I missed something.
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on April 14, 2006, 07:54:24 pm
Now, on to your suggestion. I'm not really sure what you're saying.  Are you suggestion, you have a pull down with ALL database entries and you pick one?

Pretty much, maybe allow filtering so if you want to update say a palette hacking document you only have to pick from everything in that category.
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Neil on April 14, 2006, 08:27:50 pm
a possibility could be having the entrant post a url for a homepage (if one exists) and then comparing it against the database
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Nightcrawler on April 14, 2006, 09:01:38 pm
a possibility could be having the entrant post a url for a homepage (if one exists) and then comparing it against the database

Right, but plenty of entries in our database have no homepage...
Title: Re: Site: Document and Utility Public Submission News and More!
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2006, 05:41:58 am
but the ones that do would be golden :)

you're never going to find that killer solution that works 100% of the time without sucking incredible amounts of ass.