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Title: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: RHDNBot on August 15, 2007, 12:27:07 pm
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Update By: DarknessSavior

I just released a preliminary patch for the original FE, check it out. The items and characters are translated and inserted, and now have space (thanks to KingMike’s double-line hack)! Most of the battle messages are translated too.

Warning: There is a small bug. You cannot use shops, don’t ask me why, as I currently don’t know what I can do to fix it. -.-

Staff - You can get the aforementioned patch here at RHDN (http://www.romhacking.net/trans/1174/).

Relevant Link: (http://dsrh.koreru.org/)
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Pluvius on August 15, 2007, 04:21:16 pm
I was going to ask if the original Fire Emblem wasn't already included verbatim in the second mainline Fire Emblem game, but then I remembered that that translation project was never actually completed.  Well, here's to hoping that a translated Fire Emblem will spur on completed translations of the other pre-GBA games in the series.  Good luck on that shop bug.

Rob
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Gideon Zhi on August 15, 2007, 07:01:16 pm
I was going to ask if the original Fire Emblem wasn't already included verbatim in the second mainline Fire Emblem game, but then I remembered that that translation project was never actually completed.

 ::)
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Garoth Moulinoski on August 15, 2007, 08:07:02 pm
I was going to ask if the original Fire Emblem wasn't already included verbatim in the second mainline Fire Emblem game, but then I remembered that that translation project was never actually completed.

 ::)

Or is still in "the works"... Right Gideon Zhi?

Either way, nice work DS... I don't know how inclined I am to try it out, though... Since I don't own the actual cartridge and with all the hunting the government's been doing, I've been paranoid lately about roms I don't legally own (not that I have any...), even if they're old and no one cares about'em anymore... :/ But I do wish you luck in trying to fix the shop bug...
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Shadowsithe on August 15, 2007, 08:10:23 pm
You're shitting me. I thought you had to make your own backups or it was still illegal anyways.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Garoth Moulinoski on August 15, 2007, 08:47:55 pm
You're shitting me. I thought you had to make your own backups or it was still illegal anyways.

I think there's something like that too. Either way, it's off-topic. Maybe I shouldn't have brought this up...
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Pluvius on August 15, 2007, 09:55:01 pm
I was going to ask if the original Fire Emblem wasn't already included verbatim in the second mainline Fire Emblem game, but then I remembered that that translation project was never actually completed.

 ::)

Well, here's to hoping that that eyeroll means "Try saying that in a couple of months."

Rob
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Special T on August 15, 2007, 11:13:41 pm
I like the font, I think it fits the game. I look forward to a complete release!
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Gideon Zhi on August 15, 2007, 11:44:14 pm
I was going to ask if the original Fire Emblem wasn't already included verbatim in the second mainline Fire Emblem game, but then I remembered that that translation project was never actually completed.

 ::)

Well, here's to hoping that that eyeroll means "Try saying that in a couple of months."

Rob

It means I never give up on anything. Eight years and numerous quality releases from AGTP should show you that.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Nightcrawler on August 16, 2007, 08:40:11 am
What about games like Gran Historia? There were a number of projects like that one which disappeared from your list over the years.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Gideon Zhi on August 16, 2007, 10:44:59 am
I think five, total, and at that no remarkable progress had ever been made on those. Further, some of them are getting resurrected. Fire Emblem, on the other hand, is quite a way's along.

Besides, I announced that I'd be discontinuing those projects. No such announcement has been made in FE's case (and no such announcement will ever be made, barring extremely unusual circumstances.)
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Shadowsithe on August 16, 2007, 11:41:45 am
Well, they're different-ish games either way. No biggie.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Nightcrawler on August 16, 2007, 12:51:30 pm
I think five, total, and at that no remarkable progress had ever been made on those. Further, some of them are getting resurrected. Fire Emblem, on the other hand, is quite a way's along.

Besides, I announced that I'd be discontinuing those projects. No such announcement has been made in FE's case (and no such announcement will ever be made, barring extremely unusual circumstances.)

Good point on the announcements. Blame it on the others. Too many people don't even bother to announce dropped projects. You and I can be trusted that our projects are always still alive unless we announce otherwise because we will announce such a matter if it occured. Unfortunately, the same can not be said for 80% of everybody else.

So.. when people don't see an update on something for awhile, they assume (wrongfully in some cases) it's dead quickly.

Tell you what might be a nice addition for your web site (or anybody's really) now that we're on this topic. Maybe attach a date/time stamp to your project pages so it shows when the last update occurred for that project page. You have so many, I know when I visit here and there, I don't even know if any progress has been made since I last looked at particular project without checking the news archives. Perhaps your other visitors experience the same. It would be especially useful on your page with a large number of projects.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Gideon Zhi on August 16, 2007, 01:11:05 pm
Good suggestion! I'll see about getting that implemented when I get some time.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: DarknessSavior on August 16, 2007, 02:03:03 pm
Thanks for the support, guys.

And uh, I feel like my thread has been hijacked. =D

~DS
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: RedComet on August 16, 2007, 02:36:06 pm
Thanks for the support, guys.

And uh, I feel like my thread has been hijacked. =D

~DS

You can have it back when you pay the ransom. >:D
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: RamenRanger on August 16, 2007, 10:57:08 pm
Hello there and thanks for the patch so now when i play i know what weapons I'm using.

is all the classes translated like the screenshots because mine came out like this
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n258/nayrexoto/fe_001.png)

even after i did that expanding thing.

oh in the intro i just wanted to say this you might want to change the line "at first there are to there was because it was talking about in the begging and not currently.
hope i didn't make people made with that comment. Cant wait till the completed work.good luck and great job.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Terranigma Freak on August 17, 2007, 10:04:55 am
Awesome job man, but unfortunately, the game is unplayable with the shops disabled. You need to replenish your weapons in FE. Anyway, I hope this gets fixed soon.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: DarknessSavior on August 17, 2007, 03:34:56 pm
*sighs* I knew the expanding would be a bad idea. This is the second time I've had to explain this (though I clearly did it in the readme, if anyone bothered to read those...).

Download nflate, and expand the PRG memory (NOT THE CHR!). Then apply the patch. It should come out nice and clean.

~DS
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: RamenRanger on August 17, 2007, 06:45:15 pm
i did that and that picture is what i got for some reason. i tried multiple times.

this is what i did
step 1 : i chose the clean rom.
step 2 : change it to a new name ( might have been what i did wrong)
step 3: pressed 1 for yes
step 4: pushed 0 for no.

then it does all the saving stuff

and thats what came out in the picture

Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: RedComet on August 17, 2007, 07:18:32 pm
Why didn't you just base the patch on the original unaltered rom? :huh:
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: KingMike on August 18, 2007, 12:03:45 am
Because when expanding an NES ROM, the last 16KB of PRG needs to stay last.
That would result in (at least) the last 16KB of PRG plus the entire CHR being included in the patch.

(basically, it'd be not much better than just posting a "pre-patched" ROM).
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: RedComet on August 18, 2007, 12:41:21 am
Ah. Why not just compress the hell out of the text?
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Disch on August 18, 2007, 11:36:46 am
Ah. Why not just compress the hell out of the text?

Because that's a lot more work.  Coming up with a compression scheme, writing a compressor, then making a quick decompressor in-game, etc, etc.

Quote
(basically, it'd be not much better than just posting a "pre-patched" ROM).

Am I the only one that thinks this isn't such a bad idea for smaller ROMs?  I mean if the patch is just as big (or bigger) than the patched ROM would be -- why bother with it?

Yeah yeah "legal reasons" -- but that's a lot of BS since many patches contain copyrighted material anyway (like in this case -- the font is ripped right from CV3)

</tangent minirant>
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Me_Dave on August 18, 2007, 01:44:26 pm
Well I tried the patch did the expansion with nfate first it patched the rom just right and everything worked fine. I used the Japan only rom there is another one called unlicensed that is an over dump if you used that one then you would have problems. I also tried out the old patch and I seen the difference between the two patches. The shops work in Gideon Zhi's translation. DarknessSavior's patch had lots of other stuff translated that the old patch didn't focus on. It mostly focused on the dialog and play ability. Don't take me wrong I like both translations. Keep up the good work both of you. However when I was playing this patch I avoided the shops got have way through the first battle hit end turn on the menu and the game froze up. I'll try it again when I get time. later.   
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: KingMike on August 18, 2007, 02:41:53 pm
Um, if I'm right, that "over dump" is a (probably unlicensed) Chinese translation from a (probably pirate) cart.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Gideon Zhi on August 18, 2007, 06:56:23 pm
The shops work in Gideon Zhi's translation.

What? I wasn't aware that 1) I'd released any Fire Emblem related material, and 2) that I was working on the NES one :p
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Me_Dave on August 18, 2007, 08:20:49 pm
The shops work in Gideon Zhi's translation.

What? I wasn't aware that 1) I'd released any Fire Emblem related material, and 2) that I was working on the NES one :p

What now I am confused what translation was I playing anyway. :crazy:

It was the dead one here.
http://www.romhacking.net/trans/145/ (http://www.romhacking.net/trans/145/)

And the new one here.
http://www.romhacking.net/trans/1174/ (http://www.romhacking.net/trans/1174/)
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: DarknessSavior on August 20, 2007, 02:25:43 pm
Yeah, you need to use the Japanese ROM, make sure you're not patching over the other translation. That's all I can think of.

And Me_Dave, the guy who did the other translation. His name is actually Dave, but the group is "Gaijin Translations". It wasn't Gideon...

~DS
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Me_Dave on August 20, 2007, 04:51:16 pm


And Me_Dave, the guy who did the other translation. His name is actually Dave, but the group is "Gaijin Translations". It wasn't Gideon...

~DS

Oh I am sorry I got confused. I will have to make sure I do some more reading next time.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: Burger on August 20, 2007, 11:09:57 pm
I was going to ask if the original Fire Emblem wasn't already included verbatim in the second mainline Fire Emblem game, but then I remembered that that translation project was never actually completed. 

Nah, there are a lot of differences. FE1's 25 chapters got compressed into 20 for the FE3 remake, removing a bunch of areas and characters. The FE3 version is a lot easier as well.
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: realworksuks on August 21, 2007, 01:47:39 am
someday it seems like we'll all get to experience both fire emblem 1 and 3!  You hackers might not even realize, but you guys change the world.. without you guys America would have missed out on fire emblem 1-6! (not joking either).  I thank all romhackers and translators.. you guys are great, and I appreciate the work you guys do (as do many others)
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: david_lg13 on December 07, 2008, 12:29:26 am
is this translation still being in progress?
i mean, the last post was like a year and a half ago
please DS i was really looking forward to the translation of FE
keep us in contact!!
Title: Re: Translations: Original Fire Emblem translation!
Post by: DarknessSavior on December 08, 2008, 07:57:55 am
Good lord. I haven't even thought about FE for a while.

It's on the backburner, but I'll get around to it, someday. Gid will probably complete his SNES FE before I do the NES one, though. XD

~DS