https://www.spriters-resource.com/game_boy_gbc/sfii/
You can modify nametables in NES Screen Tool. Just import your CHR graphics. Your nametable you can export from Mesen's memory tools, but delete the second half of the dump and rename it .NAM.Thank you very much, very good information, I know the program only I never managed to understand it, I will try to do what you tell me I hope to learn in this way the edition of the scenarios would solve me a lot !!!
Perhaps it would be advisable to adjust the choice of colors so that Ryu's feet are not camouflaged on the ground :thumbsup:thank you very good observation!
I've always liked these nes projects and this one looks great. :thumbsup:It would be fantastic I was investigating in mari street figther that uses the same graphic and game engine plus the 3 missing fighters, unfortunately these are poorly programmed and do not move like the rest of the characters .. maybe if someone who knows the programming could help me! :happy:
Now speaking from my ignorance on hacking issues...
is it possible to add the characters Zangief and Honda?
the only good bootleg fighting game for the nes is street heroes by sachen 1994, if you could take all that work and put it on to street heroes and make street heroes to street fighter 2 then you would be set. As street heroes hit detection is good and fall animation is better then street fighter 2 bootlegs. I am sure it would be a frankenstein game hack. But that's the only way it will play close to street fighter 2 on NES.If I tried Sachen's game, it's great, it only has very few playable characters, I'll take that into account to improve it in the future, thanks for your suggestion! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBtS4WbbGp0
Very interesting that it has 12 characters, I tried it alone, they do not convince me, the new fighters move with strange physics
https://www.spriters-resource.com/game_boy_gbc/sfii/:crazy:fantastic!!!
(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/6/5564.gif?updated=1460953559)
You could update the art portraits by roster copying the GameBoy models that are better than the NES ones.:thumbsup:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3RAd8ESffB8/hqdefault.jpg)great idea thank you very much !!!
Could you take advantage of some sprites from the Master System version ?Combining it with those of game boy and some modified by me are being great thanks to you who gave me these great ideas!
https://www.spriters-resource.com/master_system/streetfighter2brz/ (https://www.spriters-resource.com/master_system/streetfighter2brz/)
(https://www.video-games-museum.com/en/screenshots/Master%20System/2/3195-menu-Street-Fighter-2.jpg)
the only good bootleg fighting game for the nes is street heroes by sachen 1994, if you could take all that work and put it on to street heroes and make street heroes to street fighter 2 then you would be set. As street heroes hit detection is good and fall animation is better then street fighter 2 bootlegs. I am sure it would be a frankenstein game hack. But that's the only way it will play close to street fighter 2 on NES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBtS4WbbGp0great ideas, only that this game has compressed graphics, that complicates the work more ... and a different collision physics, the same is to take into account thank you very much
The problem of many bootlegs is the IA, it's impossible play as usual, I remember beat one of this games with bison (down, strong kick, all time):beer:It would be good that type of adjustments as well as the falls that there are moments in which the character turns while lying on the ground, lacking in knowledge to do it, but I suppose that we can hope to encourage others who know to join the project
Dhalsim with light kick using turbo too.
There is a game called "Street Blaster II Pro (Unl) [!]. Nes" by CONY Soft. It is worth taking a look, because although the graphics are lower than SF3 of NES, the game is apparently more faithful to SF2ww, including the songs. I can't say that the gameplay is better, as I would have to play them in order to have an opinion, but if the gameplay is good, that game would be worth getting an upgrade in graphics and colors.very good data!, this is the attitude !!! I will try it, although it does not reach the level of street figure 3, I will improve it as a parallel project, thank you very much! :woot!:
I found a video on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8W4FnGtzlk
More info here: https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_II_Pro
Keep up the good work. Your hack is amazing already.
First congratulations on the project!
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZjhtQ6DdR-s/X4h0oJNzoXI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/re6w0hyDzlIyKnzaDLOTn9fycG24FBVagCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529%2Bryu%2Bface%2Bfinality22.png) (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CWK2R_AkLcc/X4OCsQRQYeI/AAAAAAAAAUs/eGk6pWQ93U0GZ5n37CTbWEP2OpZGjYehQCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2B3%2B%2528UNL%2529mejora%2Bjugabilidad%2B7vega.png)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A_1-oWuTu9Q/X4oby6WQ7aI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/UQFh_-LqdSoQOryUN6VH7LQgemR7aKQKgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529BLANCAfinal%2Bhackrom456pruebapiton4final2.png) (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sAmvMp6XLJM/hqdefault.jpg)
This project is progressing in an astounding way! There still seems to be a lot of work to be done, but I speak for all of us in saying that we can't wait to watch/play the final result.Thank you very much my friend! You are one of the best collaborators to this project, greetings and thanks to the great help of all, it is on its way :woot!:
I think you should sacrifice colors for shading/detail, especially with someone like Blanka who is very flat in the original.You are very right, I was thinking the same, thank you very much :thumbsup:
Ryu would have two black color palettes in his hair and in Ken you would change one of these for yellow.I totally agree, if I can learn to modify the name tables I can add the apostrophe and see what ken's hair is at the programming level since the game uses the same sprites for the two characters :crazy:
In the color palettes I put, you can get a sense of how to do it.
Its version is based on the champion edition, I believe you can put the apostrophe next to the II '
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/f6E0M0ggK449JL5nVLrZ6bdzXdbiTfMDts3UcbwIog_1CjdJIDOlgE0CKRXrkTuTf0rGq8-OCbV4IuZEm6x75VCB-3P53zbZy8pijP2p4MH5MTkSE45GuY2ILjpr0lEpPGvvdNDCdlemGQgHQDPyXsXsmQTlBKHXzqHmLfxQbH7I)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/l84lp1qupdUU9p6Po5bxTat_0_uMWv5EvbnXXdCBCRtisgP1j-rMrALOm-nPpdXlzDQfJOjuQNCOBN5_gk8QCrE52fks-gwJUOnn6cJzdhnPq0NxtMz1RbWCOj8LeM3SRHSxVqNZrWDFqeo7D_SvrpxZsj5R8n2JMBLFh-Tzo5ivkt0bxNcCoBO5MPSCvEqduk45sy3Gq9dT-LFJVqNvUNDHJJVBGwEG-vGFM8P8GYcIux2hX3O1jcKHQbCWnu6S4HZutIVGcK7ozB46yvIw2Bti_h8AChpwBcEysB-oTIK7iCEq2eD7L75btVcXdxwVSsTHmJZioDSG63tY7jriXDVSMw1QecIkccz96k3X7Hc9Fo9PsRFdLiLhMmIgNegJtsOAXFxlQC9Uwnd0qufo8gGeRqxYez7HAbRCJoehldpDqbCAPLsNleDt_Ukaog2lWKPZvcter4BP0lrIL5HeDe_9ti82xfY9LVGT44DzV8wV7JRtyyrDSR0474mEpZ3udnpKL-Rr6cCDPzQNzqxJ8Oh3I4Q0eo17JYBFoQYQvYsflLFPRI-vo4NN1ha45G8BivEc8nEJfexDjQjah2_DX8l4c5Lis-qfrksbEuBo5jqUz2v8xQOIxzKZrH2_TtiPNr1UZFHpInRvlL6PL3aWz9KhNi6ypPn9T8Beo70icLgisJFKafT03T8REsNKU4I=w432-h192-no?authuser=0)If I am making new sprites for the selection of smaller characters for some that were very large, it is also in my plans improved blanka but hopefully we will do something like the game boy :thumbsup:(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RLqcEtjHw4Q/X4vFaNBh__I/AAAAAAAAAX0/YHhs-QigySQsUpqZhuYuJ3J7BEaPHQPrgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/caras%2Bnuevas.bmp)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WMOzT3ToFdc/X4vFmmTekHI/AAAAAAAAAX4/wDdUzP6wkKEWq5OQOz6x4utfYeb983xkgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/dc0ejrs-eadd0ddb-f1eb-4b62-876c-c1abd60534f8.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ht3h981qVXs/X4vF-I75TxI/AAAAAAAAAYE/T7xrV-SWXt4hVERCzR8pxBtdxvqO7KAVwCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/blanka%2Bproyecto.gif)
Perhaps an artistic direction to be followed is to use hair color as shade and muscle. I am busy with other projects and my college, if it weren't for that I would help.
Note: I am Brazilian, I have a lot of appreciation for Blanka :)
If I am making new sprites for the selection of smaller characters for some that were very large, it is also in my plans improved blanka but hopefully we will do something like the game boy :thumbsup:(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RLqcEtjHw4Q/X4vFaNBh__I/AAAAAAAAAX0/YHhs-QigySQsUpqZhuYuJ3J7BEaPHQPrgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/caras%2Bnuevas.bmp)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WMOzT3ToFdc/X4vFmmTekHI/AAAAAAAAAX4/wDdUzP6wkKEWq5OQOz6x4utfYeb983xkgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/dc0ejrs-eadd0ddb-f1eb-4b62-876c-c1abd60534f8.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ht3h981qVXs/X4vF-I75TxI/AAAAAAAAAYE/T7xrV-SWXt4hVERCzR8pxBtdxvqO7KAVwCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/blanka%2Bproyecto.gif)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A_1-oWuTu9Q/X4oby6WQ7aI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/UQFh_-LqdSoQOryUN6VH7LQgemR7aKQKgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529BLANCAfinal%2Bhackrom456pruebapiton4final2.png)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1JB6NWX6J-ri_E1Lox7OWqAfUOGBe-it5vCZxmHrgrqBB5rBG99xdPU_CaSGhMn0P0KVhb4QahCaFp-Wo2oGNoEoZFmlZwEI2SZO-0xSlljpoPyA3z5k8DGaS3LWxyS7lY24eGBPU1C2cNT1SCPKaqwQ6UUJ89W1G40J7-PLERHK59YbAlkzCaZ7nO7y7xeqlFf1hk6U7AYwMw_OgdPjUGG6EGX2lwDvxDB--3tslgVuxIY_NCWhyEJiFJhHwiVc5z2mXzrWGosiE0OC_n-SzvZmoPmc52bYN5BnBYAGqWi1NHBGfsfo_qNTY7mYNfKQVFieiJyTuezujwREHE53AAc3FLHc6uEkMQMgNFKyEDdw73dbv6qrRFqP-sC_hzlsnd-0Uva1lYYdWviE2piBdsDdquNhbUAHUCBkS1Tk6MoUnXq27EyMht6fGYsLUmLBtyJfPG6QX4Ec2tcA7fbFGjZ5-VItc5JshOkoqVSlT1SfWMIrnA56Ngu1eLVsjUKofgBSR48PyTPHYEmBXgiaNvNJPv7nyk4UkJRztK1MdSB8N2oAfCBUklIQsDmu_0M3AHj5KpzxO3XeXHuVWmPmFD_5gDbrMwL_EMDP4ByuOOSg8lIyFu1FAvz2CPNwVUHlyw34vJzIQi4yn5MJunxxo7uHEkIVUbRBkr0Wx1nrNLxMPxOJiW2_CtTSsIYkj4Q=w256-h224-no?authuser=0)
I am the only one who cannot see the images uploaded to the Google server (I am using the mobile version of the page)I think it was my fault, I created the link but the folder was not shared.
we change the size of some sprites and we are trying to color, we still need to adjust more color details(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZjhtQ6DdR-s/X4h0oJNzoXI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/re6w0hyDzlIyKnzaDLOTn9fycG24FBVagCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529%2Bryu%2Bface%2Bfinality22.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f0yfgjCHlY0/X4xk2HgkMNI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/CYKKokKSNVYTR1ZYv5e4YywN6UbUOuc4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529%2Bryu%2Bface%2Bfinality3_000.png) :thumbsup:Sebastian, I played with the colors a little more, analyze if you like it and can enjoy something.
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:crazy:
The deeper the understanding of the engine, the more difficult the project is. From now on I will specialize in elves! It will take a long time! ! ! Such an interesting project will not give up!Exactly the sprites are another of the most important things in this game, I'm sure you can overcome the obstacles and bring the project to fruition :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
Are you going to redesign the whole character or just add more details?I could greatly improve blanka's sprite and color it very arcade-style if you shared with me the three colors it uses for electric rays(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4erN5MTENx0/X4yp35JCWjI/AAAAAAAAAYc/gpROm8dsAYYbsnsHG0F_0_6b7Fo6UAkCwCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/blanka%2Bseba%2Bproyect.png)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1JB6NWX6J-ri_E1Lox7OWqAfUOGBe-it5vCZxmHrgrqBB5rBG99xdPU_CaSGhMn0P0KVhb4QahCaFp-Wo2oGNoEoZFmlZwEI2SZO-0xSlljpoPyA3z5k8DGaS3LWxyS7lY24eGBPU1C2cNT1SCPKaqwQ6UUJ89W1G40J7-PLERHK59YbAlkzCaZ7nO7y7xeqlFf1hk6U7AYwMw_OgdPjUGG6EGX2lwDvxDB--3tslgVuxIY_NCWhyEJiFJhHwiVc5z2mXzrWGosiE0OC_n-SzvZmoPmc52bYN5BnBYAGqWi1NHBGfsfo_qNTY7mYNfKQVFieiJyTuezujwREHE53AAc3FLHc6uEkMQMgNFKyEDdw73dbv6qrRFqP-sC_hzlsnd-0Uva1lYYdWviE2piBdsDdquNhbUAHUCBkS1Tk6MoUnXq27EyMht6fGYsLUmLBtyJfPG6QX4Ec2tcA7fbFGjZ5-VItc5JshOkoqVSlT1SfWMIrnA56Ngu1eLVsjUKofgBSR48PyTPHYEmBXgiaNvNJPv7nyk4UkJRztK1MdSB8N2oAfCBUklIQsDmu_0M3AHj5KpzxO3XeXHuVWmPmFD_5gDbrMwL_EMDP4ByuOOSg8lIyFu1FAvz2CPNwVUHlyw34vJzIQi4yn5MJunxxo7uHEkIVUbRBkr0Wx1nrNLxMPxOJiW2_CtTSsIYkj4Q=w256-h224-no?authuser=0)
Sebastian, I took the liberty to modify it to visually demonstrate what I had suggested.
Another thing that could be improved is the post on the right side, in the original it has a wood texture.
I believe that the final result of your hack will be very good! :thumbsup:
This looks incredible, CryingOnion's hack was pretty good but this one might be even better. I would also love this hack if the music was improved. ;)I still can't get anyone who knows how to change the music on the title screen and the character selection, which is where the game is very intense :-\
The deeper the understanding of the engine, the more difficult the project is. From now on I will specialize in elves! It will take a long time! ! ! Such an interesting project will not give up!that's the master attitude !!! ;D
They use different engines, but there is a version where they are mixed, unfortunately the physics of these fighters is very deficient to those of street figure 3 8)we are still on our way here I have the two tracks for the game
New details added to Vega's stage ... and I am happy to have received the collaboration of (TI) with two songs :crazy:
the roster is looking amazing ...
a note =
The world map could be improved by correctly placing the names of the countries (Spain is in England) and adding the flags.
(https://www.arcadequartermaster.com/capcom/sf2/map.png)
Britain, not England ;) Sorry I always correct people when they call the entire island England.fantastic! :beer:
Britain, not England ;) Sorry I always correct people when they call the entire island England.
if it was more worked, only that the size was uneven with the other portraits and when making the box it no longer enteredvery good idea I will make an optional patch for the two versions that you say! :thumbsup:
yes totally agree, I was doing tests with blanka and the best is the game boy even guile and bison are great too :thumbsup:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Xrq0wQFMJ_A/X5tVjTJb1rI/AAAAAAAAAhM/AJUAwWFKgXc9DOhlSZaHBr-MnwasoWFHgCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/CHR000blamka.bmp)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0jpvnNy_cqc/X5tVwwvvPCI/AAAAAAAAAhU/Ag31VcAs4zIfD1NNzjR3vlLXi06dPMCOQCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/blanka%2Bproyecto.gif)
I prefer the selection screen in this more modern style, I ended up doing it on YYchr as well.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cv_eVib0xpJ1_zL4o5H6gBoOWgirHubGjRb2fQbHhvvVwfqVXy63T2ofWq4gJWSPcFn1K4ZfgKuey1Tm07ZMinhvAJ9WEodVimVxGpGASD7JuSkgBsaLQt5gm8_40L8riXmiKl7iDtvHjkp7PEAMScaw=w256-h240-no?authuser=0)
I prefer the selection screen in this more modern style, I ended up doing it on YYchr as well.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cv_eVib0xpJ1_zL4o5H6gBoOWgirHubGjRb2fQbHhvvVwfqVXy63T2ofWq4gJWSPcFn1K4ZfgKuey1Tm07ZMinhvAJ9WEodVimVxGpGASD7JuSkgBsaLQt5gm8_40L8riXmiKl7iDtvHjkp7PEAMScaw=w256-h240-no?authuser=0)
I had commented earlier, for you to be able to put Ken's yellow hair you will have to sacrifice a color of the clothes and leave Ryu with two black palettes in his hair and one of these palettes you change to yellow for Ken. The image illustrates how to do this.
About leaving the blue background and having black in the character selection, create a blue tile and stamp it across the background.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cwOOi2X0nsM6ha3GghU5PuzTe4O-Vou3YEa3UlxXXNll1DooTSMLbvNgScVda4OPDRg4fQDiOEX7cWox5-3U32uNMQ1cCIZiw--lt7vGmxwEjwar2LF8UIZJg7ilgxlTkNEKZafgjmqow5iJcRtw5knQ=w467-h528-no?authuser=0)
I really like your project! A suggestion, put your hair and pants with more red, to differentiate it from the skin. :thumbsup:Another option would be to use one of the skin colors for the hair since they are less obvious areas compared to the kimono? :happy:
YES!! YESSHH!!! *Laughs in Dictator*Actually, M. Bison was strange, I corrected him! :police:
This is one of two goals! Can you do the World Warrior Portraits?
We need to improve the opponent cycle, so you won't to fight always Chun-Li in first stage.
Take a look on Mortal Kombat II by Hummer: they have a fixed cycle, but the 7th opponent is the Mirror Match.
So if you pick Ryu, 6th stage should be Ryu.
But, creating an exception for bosses:
6th opponent for Claw: Chun-Li
6th opponent for Sagat: Ryu
6th opponent for Dictator: Guile
Yes, I'm making a nod to the SF lore.
magnificent once again you surprise me improving what was already perfect! :crazy:I thought it was a little strange, I prefer to take a color from the clothes. :beer:
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Another option would be to use one of the skin colors for the hair since they are less obvious areas compared to the kimono? :happy:
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(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GO3Ih3t74Wg/X5wmnhMgmvI/AAAAAAAAAho/cN943v75XRwPe-lLVP4skOwu00VnizyuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/ryu%2Bvs%2Bken2.png)
approach model ::)
Hello, your designs look great, I would like to work with your them to make the next mockup of the selection screen, could you give me a screenshot in ".PNG" please :thumbsup:
On the other hand, I consider that degrading the graphics of both characters to correct Ken would not be the best option, since at first glance you can see that it loads an independent portrait, has its own palette attributes and an exclusive ending, so it is to be assumed that there is the possibility of redirecting your graphic banks to another sector to create exclusive graphics for it ;)
On the other hand, I just saw the screenshots of the thread title screen and I noticed that the color of the lower texts is different from the image I used for reference, so I made this small modification, although I'm not sure if it looks better or it is much in evidence that I no longer had colors available to work with, what do you think? (https://orig00.deviantart.net/9ce5/f/2019/086/c/3/what_by_terwilf-dd34pvz.gif)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7tgoj-1aa4794e-102f-4d38-b083-7a10cc669770.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd0Z29qLTFhYTQ3OTRlLTEwMmYtNGQzOC1iMDgzLTdhMTBjYzY2OTc3MC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.kccyZbhUI5mxgeMDwojNlZo6yuf5dhvEfS3z2sqh5WY)
of course and I hope to see your project that will surely be great
You might also consider Sachen's Street Heroes for NES, that's another unlicensed fighting game.
Xander max
Excuse me, I checked the thread at various times of the day and I assumed that being Friday I would not have the opportunity to find it, so I decided to make my own version to continue working, in serious excuse me this makes me very sorry :-\
On the other hand, his work helped me a lot as a reference, especially when drawing Vega, he is a great artist :thumbsup:
This these are the first results :beer:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7viv7-429e1988-fea1-4fa2-b2bc-e819618e2055.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd2aXY3LTQyOWUxOTg4LWZlYTEtNGZhMi1iMmJjLWU4MTk2MThlMjA1NS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.CbRbePaOybmX_VbF4HPYXX4nZnSOdmt_Dzrac-tu4nw) (https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7viv3-035f34f1-5203-481f-8c74-9275c03fe3db.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd2aXYzLTAzNWYzNGYxLTUyMDMtNDgxZi04Yzc0LTkyNzVjMDNmZTNkYi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.MWBjgcW-_htakoBmXqkFtbDBqvqh-i16WMkVq23uR5U)
Great contribution of cartridge!!! :thumbsup: RYU stage music (https://drive.google.com/file/d/15am44XmEDgs1tW-CuLw7Hg_DnYtqdBoh/view?usp=sharing) :crazy:
The character selection screen looks great! Did you manage to place the extra blocks in Guile?
Xander max
It looks great, I had a lot of problems with Chun-Li, on the other hand the selection cursor has white borders so it would be difficult to distinguish it if I used that same color for the background, although it is necessary to choose a uniform tonality:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7wurp-9be6f978-4003-4283-a331-7221157f1682.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd3dXJwLTliZTZmOTc4LTQwMDMtNDI4My1hMzMxLTcyMjExNTdmMTY4Mi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.Bs1vJMeB7sNbtZgnuPVZ7TDKwc0zY7FJKjBfGJFeHDs) (https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7wuru-24d1f876-0bb5-4db3-93f6-f78d98b34c40.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd3dXJ1LTI0ZDFmODc2LTBiYjUtNGRiMy05M2Y2LWY3OGQ5OGIzNGM0MC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.JiuD2_pm1yfxZeDUqOloGeAIuK9f-Tj4Ee48aOfSois)
Click to enlarge (Images with emulator filters)
Personally I like the result of the second image better, this is the result of combining our ideas :thumbsup:Spoiler:(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7wsql-f24d1979-1fdf-4650-8c7d-51713cddaf9c.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd3c3FsLWYyNGQxOTc5LTFmZGYtNDY1MC04YzdkLTUxNzEzY2RkYWY5Yy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.zxbEBljmcnNIrscZvqCJ-UqBjBBTgvL19P4eoH2emg8)
On the other hand, I know it can be a bit annoying, but please use ".PNG" or ".GIF" if possible to share images, I am color blind and JPG compression causes sectors of the image that I literally cannot understand :'(
Note: I used an emulator filter, because I think most people will end up playing the game this way ;)
By the way, the distribution of countries makes sense for the Street Fighter world, I don't know much about geography, but at a glance I can see that Spain is located in the United Kingdom, China is in Mongolia, Brazil crushes Peru, etc, etc..
Edit: I hadn't noticed Vega, quick update :laugh:
Very good Sebastian, are you going to use the background of some other game or are you creating from scratch?
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FZ5THN4tiV0/X58GegpPQZI/AAAAAAAAAjM/96po1-923SQU0sL061u2r9JDL7FP-2nLwCLcBGAsYHQ/s250/bloggif_5f9f0652666a2.gif)
:happy:In the bowels of stage chun lee :o
What a fantastic image Sebastian! Congratulations!
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tvtT-BHC8ls/X6BLyTrroxI/AAAAAAAAAlY/UozgffXR2Mw4EA-2EVdicMglUvLJDNPfwCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/unnamed.gif)
And now it's a reality :thumbsup:It's great!!! :D :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de831q4-c26dc165-2605-468a-a4a4-76596f6e49a8.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTgzMXE0LWMyNmRjMTY1LTI2MDUtNDY4YS1hNGE0LTc2NTk2ZjZlNDlhOC5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.2jaja0hQ6Xh-eC9lLl5sOCKJOsAjWepNLYAKo5uS9zc)
Although in my opinion it is very overloaded and perhaps needs a modification is its palette ;)
And now it's a reality :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de831q4-c26dc165-2605-468a-a4a4-76596f6e49a8.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTgzMXE0LWMyNmRjMTY1LTI2MDUtNDY4YS1hNGE0LTc2NTk2ZjZlNDlhOC5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.2jaja0hQ6Xh-eC9lLl5sOCKJOsAjWepNLYAKo5uS9zc)
Although in my opinion it is very overloaded and perhaps needs a modification is its palette ;)
And now it's a reality :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de831q4-c26dc165-2605-468a-a4a4-76596f6e49a8.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTgzMXE0LWMyNmRjMTY1LTI2MDUtNDY4YS1hNGE0LTc2NTk2ZjZlNDlhOC5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.2jaja0hQ6Xh-eC9lLl5sOCKJOsAjWepNLYAKo5uS9zc)
Although in my opinion it is very overloaded and perhaps needs a modification is its palette ;)
Great, I already applied the color suggestions that you sent me privately to the most current rom and I must say that I like the light-colored version better, what do you guys think?Fantastic !! for me it looks spectacular I like all the new ideas you are implementing, this screen has nothing to envy to 16 bits :crazy:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de84fys-c1fec37b-5a87-48b5-8212-94d7db4ddf53.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTg0ZnlzLWMxZmVjMzdiLTVhODctNDhiNS04MjEyLTk0ZDdkYjRkZGY1My5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.xfDYlGnNG0mgD0g2P7zdi3Hh8AfNJojPyDN8S-fo9tE) (https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de84fyo-3d10437b-9f17-41c6-b824-3b70a1930703.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTg0ZnlvLTNkMTA0MzdiLTlmMTctNDFjNi1iODI0LTNiNzBhMTkzMDcwMy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ._uZGNm-PIZIyX8udBGHSGsjdVAfcl_k-c8YGtevB4jw)
On the other hand, I think the "Player select" font should be changed to one that takes better advantage of the new color arrangement.
Although the only thing that does not convince me is that the colors of the flags are increasingly inaccurate, but it certainly feels like a game that could have come out in the best time of the NES :laugh:
By the way I finally put into practice Xander max's suggestion for the portraits of the fighters :thumbsup:
Here I created an intermediate version taking the best of both versions :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de84omo-5c30dc8c-98cc-40d9-a167-c2ab59687412.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTg0b21vLTVjMzBkYzhjLTk4Y2MtNDBkOS1hMTY3LWMyYWI1OTY4NzQxMi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.3eTNd-A2XLna5xTj5qeDbqswCJ4ozTlZlODHH7jSdrw)
The sources are provisional, I suppose, since it is time for me to start with the other things, so if you have any suggestions to improve the sets, portraits, etc. this is the moment :beer:
The command to perform the Shoryuken/Tiger Uppercut is very difficult. Is it possible to change the command or make a way to make it easier?An easy way to perform the blow is to stay tight forward and tap down, when releasing down and continuing to press forward, press the punch.
Think there's a chance of adding the remaining sf2 characters. Don't need to add the super sf2 characters.
Also, theres a sf2 adaption for turbo grapics 16. I think you could do something with it.
GraphicusSics! I am very amazed by the playful way that exposes the changes. There is a tutorial explaining how the changes were made to this screen, both the new sprite distribution and the color palette changes.
Although doing it this way would have made it difficult to place the flags, since they must be distributed so that you can apply the correct palette without leaving a sector of the map painted with the wrong colors.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de87pzx-99bfe0ab-afce-41ef-9777-6d5fdd5fa052.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTg3cHp4LTk5YmZlMGFiLWFmY2UtNDFlZi05Nzc3LTZkNWZkZDVmYTA1Mi5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.tnkR1c6wqvjvTnQh5t09isC-aZ9Dw-u8NqhV5zgTKjk)
RealGaea
I've modified scripts in other Hummer games, but I'm not interested in doing it here, sorry
I hope you can add these characters or you can use mari street fighter turbo it's the same gameThank you very much friend for the information and the good vibes! :thumbsup:
but with more characters :thumbsup:
verme
No, the modification that you propose is not possible, at least not in the way you have proposed it, the most feasible option would be to change the background color to blue, but as you can see the result would be quite poor:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de86881-2a144144-3b0c-491d-95ff-5265d9b443d4.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTg2ODgxLTJhMTQ0MTQ0LTNiMGMtNDkxZC05NWZmLTUyNjVkOWI0NDNkNC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.fcBkcq2uYwFRNaYracuyUcbUzy_Y31_OQAIPO7dvD3Q)
You'll have to resize them to fit. Ryu is the right size to me. Sics can do it, right?I could, but I enjoy more seeing how true artists demonstrate their full potential, remember that this is sebastianangel's project, I am only his collaborator and as such I will do my best to make his ideas come true.
It's because the biggest gripe I had with this bootleg is playing ALWAYS in Chun-Li Stage when playing a versus.Great, I hope your project comes to fruition, on the other hand, although we would like to fulfill all the requests they make us, I think it is better to be realistic, at the moment we are only two people to share all the tasks, when we manage to become a legion we can do what legions do, conquer small towns and eat sheep? Ok bad analogy :laugh:
Anyway, this inspires me to continue the minimal patch for MK II by Hummer.
Xander maxIf you do something like that I would be very grateful, your pixel art and the way you work is very interesting!
The truth is that I was thinking of spending my time growing my YouTube channel by teaching this kind of thing, and of course also sharing some of my own projects, but I have never worked as a team with anyone, so it seemed like a great opportunity to participate here.
Speaking of the specific case of editing the transition screens of the game, I still think with what approach to approach it, since I do not know whether to focus on the main thing or also cover how I create the designs, find pointers, redirect data, etc., that's why I think that the audiovisual format was ideal for it.
What's more, the first title screen that I created for this hack, I was originally going to use it to record this tutorial, but then I hurt my back and it hurt to speak, so I only focused on finishing it to try to revive this great initiative.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdGHNhopquBMifjhdNSWQTA/videos
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IT IS AN APPROACH I THINK IT CAN BE IMPROVED! FOLLOWING OTHER TESTS :thumbsup:I am polishing the graphics a little, there is still a lot to do, I share some drawings
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y3A07LKDiUg/X6a8HXjn12I/AAAAAAAAAsY/ntjUDHi3rdEGyu5Jx6XAfOG50NXykfr6QCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/JEFES.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PQMryxR6tpg/X6a-twJ7piI/AAAAAAAAAso/x7-787e3pNMtN1AiBymp1kGaQn47M18CQCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/BISON2.png) ::)
I take the opportunity to continue asking for collaboration in all possible areas of the game, I am excited about the idea of finishing something at a higher level than I would have imagined in the beginning, I have all The songs of the game in middi format do not know if it is possible to pass them to famitracker? Also some ideas of many here to put more fighters seems very difficult, there is an idea in my head to incorporate a bunus stage, I do not know if it is possible :huh: but I love it! :woot!:
Anime_World
That is not possible the map shares palettes with Chun-Li :P
chunli could you add Kikoken sprite ?
I am polishing the graphics a little, there is still a lot to do, I share some drawings
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Gl1mvo7OUmQ/X6diHMKlM5I/AAAAAAAAAtQ/oFnWuT_2JyIh9L5fbOII8AGjQ_gRfO1kgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/ryu%2Bfinal%2Bsebastian2.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X2_ASsdC-C8/X6da7pznksI/AAAAAAAAAs4/VIepQCJSdpsFgUy0K-B62khmJeg0YeLPACLcBGAsYHQ/s0/guille.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lJ_1_vedxhw/X6dnaoS5nqI/AAAAAAAAAtc/AP8uln642JsPdeENvmhU7d0jyUNz1oW-wCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/jefes%2Bfinal.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P2ouof4AmJM/X6dbtfUW3_I/AAAAAAAAAtE/NvrrSG0DZpYz5zPC7MZjmE7Lw3iT1mU1ACLcBGAsYHQ/s0/BISON2.png)
I've been looking among all the unlicensed pirate port, although they are not the best tunes if they are the closest to the original arcade, including the intro and sound fighter selection, I believe in the idea that they could be extracted for this project, Would it be difficult to adapt them or do they have better melodies ?
had they already valued this option ?
this is the version with the melodies "close" to the arcade
Street Fighter II Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUoit5rKZVw&ab_channel=AnonymousWorld (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUoit5rKZVw&ab_channel=AnonymousWorld)
- technical doubts :-\
Ryu / Ken's Hadōken can have the original blue / white color and not be fire orange ?
chunli could you add Kikoken sprite ?
the health bar has some very dull colors lemon yellow looks purple violet the color of damage, shouldn't it be red and deep yellow ? :-\
greetings to the team :woot!:
Tileset | Lines to be drawn on the screen
C0 | 0C
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C0 0C | C2 12 | C4 00 | C6 FF |Dhalsim
C8 0D | CA 12 | CC 00 | CE FF |Sagat
D0 11 | D2 00 | D4 FF | FF FF |Bison
D8 0E | DA 16 | DC 00 | DE FF |Guile
E0 0C | E2 12 | E4 18 | E6 FF |Ken
E8 0E | EA 00 | BA 00 | BA FF |Ryu
F0 11 | F2 00 | F4 00 | 00 FF |Vega
EC 0E | EE 00 | 00 00 | 00 FF |Blanca
F8 0C | FA 18 | FC 00 | 00 01 |Chun-Li
----------------------------------------------------
A2 0D | A4 00 | BA 00 | BA 01 | Selección de niveles
D4 14 | D6 00 | 00 00 | 00 01 | Title screen
BD 1A | BE 00 | BA 00 | 00 20 | Continues
You could say that it is almost like having a MUGEN for the NES, since this added to the other characteristics of the engine really expands the possibilities of this project :laugh: ╔══════════════════╦═════════════╦═══════════╦═════════════╦═══════════╗
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FF = Vació mX 01 02 03Sorry if I repeat this, but I did not understand almost anything of what you wrote again, I recommend you attach the original text with your translation ;>(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eQ5C2YpOh7E/X62fmXf81GI/AAAAAAAAAyE/Dn_P6Zi6hKkk6PSZNUdqyiG-pgpUU8ISgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/street%2Bfigther%2Bmejorado_Modified2b.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Chyu49f97W4/X62fhviTgEI/AAAAAAAAAyA/_aCqv0xrGhMTZ7q4A5lYMvLMTOfs2ZkjACLcBGAsYHQ/s0/street%2Bfigther%2Bmejorado_Modified2%2Bryu%2Bvs%2Bblanka.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nj-LYiBqD94/X66sWGmfbjI/AAAAAAAAAyY/iGaTZhDEYlcwz-wtuJEplzUFz7HxcXxcgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/street%2Bfigther%2Bmejorado_Modified5.png) :P
testing :P
hahahaha， :D
Because I don't know how to write programs, I don't know how to express it. My progress is very slow! But I will pay attention to this project。
加油！ :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I did some arts, maybe they can inspire or enjoy something!Great illustrations! :beer:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e2Fp8UgwGTiUe8peOjM_Cy4sY7tXA63JJbScCcmpOl_J9YZC4aC3EAEg8w5P5zmtHt8R1r6zJa4-n5o2YQZPcUbHmSu385SZFq69e_9xp6GVg69cxnTP5EOIHsMeqKMGM4968FG21pjTyAoKc1ncgUqw=w161-h248-no?authuser=0)
sebastianangelThanks for the instruction! Always very detailed in his explanations!
It is a mostly manual process, to achieve a decent result you should not only analyze the graphics you want to adapt, but you should consider other variants of it and especially the original version :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozpb-e883eb14-0078-4202-aaf6-c1fa9f1768c9.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvenBiLWU4ODNlYjE0LTAwNzgtNDIwMi1hYWY2LWMxZmE5ZjE3NjhjOS5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.hNDQpg_pph1MicjpYvIfLWalRv-WfV1-Qa_8-Pf2Snk)Spoiler:(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozu8-ef2736b8-e978-41fa-afa8-2cc2fa8b5c7d.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvenU4LWVmMjczNmI4LWU5NzgtNDFmYS1hZmE4LTJjYzJmYThiNWM3ZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.nN0-qVrkwG8_K3BBsIB3yENqkCQJE90JOulPVkDVh_w)
The first thing I noticed after I started testing was that there was a lot of information in this image that would inevitably be lost if I scaled it up, so the solution that convinced me the most was to find an optimal point to cut the image based on the original NES framework:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozox-e9b83345-f410-4f33-b5d2-4b9f4a911866.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvem94LWU5YjgzMzQ1LWY0MTAtNGYzMy1iNWQyLTRiOWY0YTkxMTg2Ni5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.h5EalaoQIRo8Juln9ie74q92MaFL-iq2hnGVk0LZ5is)
But when comparing the result with the portraits of Ryu's classic version, it was noticeable that he had become very big-headed or at least his head was the only thing that stood out:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozos-c2bb003d-1061-4ce6-aed8-2b32f2dd0ba2.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvem9zLWMyYmIwMDNkLTEwNjEtNGNlNi1hZWQ4LTJiMzJmMmRkMGJhMi5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.WCvuUcZFX_0G2wMo70LGS3_7_YzI5Aul1-mW_ilQEnY)
So instead of just cropping it scale part of the illustration, as follows:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p016-70ab2f98-7ea0-446e-b71d-b6fe01cce744.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMDE2LTcwYWIyZjk4LTdlYTAtNDQ2ZS1iNzFkLWI2ZmUwMWNjZTc0NC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.ns3Q3HeAldgcmVxAtxAK5gy6DWNcsdb3-6m6bVVvOXQ)
Although for this specific case the soft resizing was not the most indicated since the finish of the original work is rough or whatever.
Using the ImageResizer-r129 tool, scale the image using the Bicubic <GDI+> method already to its final size.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p01c-d4be509d-65da-44e2-a543-ec794d0ffe3b.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMDFjLWQ0YmU1MDlkLTY1ZGEtNDRlMi1hNTQzLWVjNzk0ZDBmZmUzYi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.2QGDEcdZvTH3DVp8DuSTLovuRP33GWT0Z_ARti6MrjE)
In this part I usually use Color Quantizer, to get the best result, but looking for alternative ways to facilitate your task I discovered a very interesting function in RIOT (Radical Image Optimization Tool).
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozom-22fb2965-010e-450b-aabe-efea6816898b.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvem9tLTIyZmIyOTY1LTAxMGUtNDUwYi1hYWJlLWVmZWE2ODE2ODk4Yi5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.H7P1IcTrRQlaH0Q-lsvq5LCZifiiQD60-ulHXMTAJhA)
With it you can filter the original image to improve the output results, in this example I used an additional color by mistake, since I usually work using images that include an alpha channel, this means that you have to configure a palette of 5 colors to be able to preserve the transparency.
Already with several different versions, it is only a matter of taking the best of each one and unifying them in a single illustration, paying special attention to the original version of the NES, since it can take the greatest amount of resources to hide the limitations of the system.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p0jq-8a373a42-09b5-4fda-a88c-51aab9ef6ef2.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMGpxLThhMzczYTQyLTA5YjUtNGZkYS1hODhjLTUxYWFiOWVmNmVmMi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.EnynYEymf1nMt2OZ6UgMcfGOw0eALXGvj2y3N7H88bA)
On the other hand it is a waste of effort to use the real rom for testing. It is better to create a mockup with NESImageConverter2, since it is fast, it is easy and it allows you to make changes efficiently.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p0fb-494bd946-d630-4c20-a112-763b97ce98a5.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMGZiLTQ5NGJkOTQ2LWQ2MzAtNGMyMC1hMTEyLTc2M2I5N2NlOThhNS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.BVut7tCZM3A1VOGvscsCWGzihKDbq83T-bSyTNhpSAo)
That tape is very badly drawn, I fall from sleep xD
Changing the subject, I can't quite understand why we should replace the mapper with MMC5, it's a sincere question, I don't understand what advantages it offers over the mapper that this game is currently using :-\
cartridge_rom
Logically, the artistic style used in a game should be the same from beginning to end, so although it may be a reference, I do not think that a version is created directly using the GBA graphics :thumbsup:
RealGaea
Regarding the endings, at the moment we are conditioned by the space for graphics, so we must consider it.
You have thought that if there are 9 players it would be necessary to draw 36 illustrations to fulfill your request, you are going to decompose the poor robot and then I will have to take him to the technician :D
Great illustrations! :beer:
sebastianangelExcellent explanatory tutorial :thumbsup: !!! It helps me 100% in the process and with an optimal result! I will put it into practice now! :woot!:
It is a mostly manual process, to achieve a decent result you should not only analyze the graphics you want to adapt, but you should consider other variants of it and especially the original version :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozpb-e883eb14-0078-4202-aaf6-c1fa9f1768c9.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvenBiLWU4ODNlYjE0LTAwNzgtNDIwMi1hYWY2LWMxZmE5ZjE3NjhjOS5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.hNDQpg_pph1MicjpYvIfLWalRv-WfV1-Qa_8-Pf2Snk)Spoiler:(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozu8-ef2736b8-e978-41fa-afa8-2cc2fa8b5c7d.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvenU4LWVmMjczNmI4LWU5NzgtNDFmYS1hZmE4LTJjYzJmYThiNWM3ZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.nN0-qVrkwG8_K3BBsIB3yENqkCQJE90JOulPVkDVh_w)
The first thing I noticed after I started testing was that there was a lot of information in this image that would inevitably be lost if I scaled it up, so the solution that convinced me the most was to find an optimal point to cut the image based on the original NES framework:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozox-e9b83345-f410-4f33-b5d2-4b9f4a911866.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvem94LWU5YjgzMzQ1LWY0MTAtNGYzMy1iNWQyLTRiOWY0YTkxMTg2Ni5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.h5EalaoQIRo8Juln9ie74q92MaFL-iq2hnGVk0LZ5is)
But when comparing the result with the portraits of Ryu's classic version, it was noticeable that he had become very big-headed or at least his head was the only thing that stood out:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozos-c2bb003d-1061-4ce6-aed8-2b32f2dd0ba2.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvem9zLWMyYmIwMDNkLTEwNjEtNGNlNi1hZWQ4LTJiMzJmMmRkMGJhMi5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.WCvuUcZFX_0G2wMo70LGS3_7_YzI5Aul1-mW_ilQEnY)
So instead of just cropping it scale part of the illustration, as follows:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p016-70ab2f98-7ea0-446e-b71d-b6fe01cce744.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMDE2LTcwYWIyZjk4LTdlYTAtNDQ2ZS1iNzFkLWI2ZmUwMWNjZTc0NC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.ns3Q3HeAldgcmVxAtxAK5gy6DWNcsdb3-6m6bVVvOXQ)
Although for this specific case the soft resizing was not the most indicated since the finish of the original work is rough or whatever.
Using the ImageResizer-r129 tool, scale the image using the Bicubic <GDI+> method already to its final size.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p01c-d4be509d-65da-44e2-a543-ec794d0ffe3b.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMDFjLWQ0YmU1MDlkLTY1ZGEtNDRlMi1hNTQzLWVjNzk0ZDBmZmUzYi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.2QGDEcdZvTH3DVp8DuSTLovuRP33GWT0Z_ARti6MrjE)
In this part I usually use Color Quantizer, to get the best result, but looking for alternative ways to facilitate your task I discovered a very interesting function in RIOT (Radical Image Optimization Tool).
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8ozom-22fb2965-010e-450b-aabe-efea6816898b.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThvem9tLTIyZmIyOTY1LTAxMGUtNDUwYi1hYWJlLWVmZWE2ODE2ODk4Yi5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.H7P1IcTrRQlaH0Q-lsvq5LCZifiiQD60-ulHXMTAJhA)
With it you can filter the original image to improve the output results, in this example I used an additional color by mistake, since I usually work using images that include an alpha channel, this means that you have to configure a palette of 5 colors to be able to preserve the transparency.
Already with several different versions, it is only a matter of taking the best of each one and unifying them in a single illustration, paying special attention to the original version of the NES, since it can take the greatest amount of resources to hide the limitations of the system.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p0jq-8a373a42-09b5-4fda-a88c-51aab9ef6ef2.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMGpxLThhMzczYTQyLTA5YjUtNGZkYS1hODhjLTUxYWFiOWVmNmVmMi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.EnynYEymf1nMt2OZ6UgMcfGOw0eALXGvj2y3N7H88bA)
On the other hand it is a waste of effort to use the real rom for testing. It is better to create a mockup with NESImageConverter2, since it is fast, it is easy and it allows you to make changes efficiently.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p0fb-494bd946-d630-4c20-a112-763b97ce98a5.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMGZiLTQ5NGJkOTQ2LWQ2MzAtNGMyMC1hMTEyLTc2M2I5N2NlOThhNS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.BVut7tCZM3A1VOGvscsCWGzihKDbq83T-bSyTNhpSAo)
That tape is very badly drawn, I fall from sleep xD
Changing the subject, I can't quite understand why we should replace the mapper with MMC5, it's a sincere question, I don't understand what advantages it offers over the mapper that this game is currently using :-\
cartridge_rom
Logically, the artistic style used in a game should be the same from beginning to end, so although it may be a reference, I do not think that a version is created directly using the GBA graphics :thumbsup:
RealGaea
Regarding the endings, at the moment we are conditioned by the space for graphics, so we must consider it.
You have thought that if there are 9 players it would be necessary to draw 36 illustrations to fulfill your request, you are going to decompose the poor robot and then I will have to take him to the technician :D
Great illustrations! :beer:
On the other hand it is a waste of effort to use the real rom for testing. It is better to create a mockup with NESImageConverter2, since it is fast, it is easy and it allows you to make changes efficiently.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de8p0fb-494bd946-d630-4c20-a112-763b97ce98a5.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZThwMGZiLTQ5NGJkOTQ2LWQ2MzAtNGMyMC1hMTEyLTc2M2I5N2NlOThhNS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.BVut7tCZM3A1VOGvscsCWGzihKDbq83T-bSyTNhpSAo)
That tape is very badly drawn, I fall from sleep xD
RealGaea
Regarding the endings, at the moment we are conditioned by the space for graphics, so we must consider it.
You have thought that if there are 9 players it would be necessary to draw 36 illustrations to fulfill your request, you are going to decompose the poor robot and then I will have to take him to the technician :D
The command to perform the Shoryuken/Tiger Uppercut is very difficult. Is it possible to change the command or make a way to make it easier?a nes game "fighting hero 3" has the correct Shoryuken command. However, I have no idea about how to transplant command to other game.
Very good contribution if it is one of the soundtracks that we had considered in the beginning: :happy: and we do not rule out the idea, only that I think we have something better in middi format that we want to adapt to the game. The energy bar will verify it and it will surely be fixed : :thumbsup:, at this moment I was full with the theme of the finals and now with the screens versus. Chun lee's Kikoken already goes to a more pure programming area that perhaps others want to give a hand, any contribution is always welcome , but we go by parts and we do not rule out any idea or proposal that is within our reach!Will you collaborate with vasyanchichek（Vasil in romhacking.net）? UMK3 nes project shows his impressive programming skills.
When we have solved these commented areas, a more significant improvement of the stages is still missing :crazy:
then I leave the limk of agunos middis for the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCMgPT3BV-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCMgPT3BV-8)
song6502, one way to check if the writing mode was correct is to take the converted text and translate it back into your language, if it is understandable to you, then it was correct. I saw your video on youtube, your scenery was amazing!
谢谢！我做了三个stage后发现，还是把引擎弄明白吧！以后就停止了。做像素画很有趣，就是太浪费时间。
Will you collaborate with vasyanchichek%uFF08Vasil in romhacking.net%uFF09? UMK3 nes project shows his impressive programming skills.It would be a great pleasure for us to have the help of (Vasil), it is incredible what has been achieved in mortal combat! For now he is busy with his own projects but as soon as he is released he will contact him. :thumbsup: That would be wonderful :crazy:
Switching to mmc5 is expanding capacity! From the perspective of the overall game engine, PRG: Currently, the data for an action sprite of the game character occupies 8k-PRG space. If you need to add three characters, you need a 24k-PRG space. (If ken is added, it is a 30k-PRG space) The data in the stage name table also needs more space than 8K-PRG. Now that the music data in the scene has free space to write, it may not be necessary to add new space.
In terms of chr: each character's graphic needs approximately 40k CHR of space, in addition to approximately 120k-CHR. The final screen requires a total of 6k ~ 12k of space.
The game engine has an ignition self-test program. If it is removed, it can leave some space. With this space, you may be able to write VS screen program to bring VS screen closer to arcade%u3002
%u539F rom: 128k prom + 512k chrom
%u4FEE%u6539 %u540E rom %uFF1A 256k prom + 1024k chrom
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%u4E5F%u8BB8%u662F%u4E0D%u6B63%u786E%u7684%u8C03%u67E5%uFF1Ahttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1FziBD1vwgW9TVQrTHGpagWNC3VxRn6BD/view?usp=sharing
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November 14, 2020, 07:45:28 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)song6502, one way to check if the writing mode was correct is to take the converted text and translate it back into your language, if it is understandable to you, then it was correct. I saw your video on youtube, your scenery was amazing!fantastic explanation and data song! :thumbsup: you
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Investigation is great, there will be many possibilities for improving the game, thank you for sharing your research and discoveries with us, I hope the connoisseurs can clarify any doubts you may have! :woot!:
Replacing the game's mapper to MMC5 implies increasing its capacity, in terms of the game engine, of course.
PRG: Currently, the data to manage the sprites of a fighter occupies 8k-PRG, therefore, if you want to add three additional fighters, you will need to have 24k-PRG (And if we also included Ken, a total of 30k-PRG would be necessary)
In the same way, for each new scenario that is developed, it will need an additional 8k-PRG to store its nametable, unless we take into account the version with the new soundtrack, since this dispenses with the original songs, leaving that space free to be modified.
CHR: The graphics of a character require approximately 40k-CHR and for the complete set around 120k-CHR, on the other hand, for their endings they require between 6k~12k-CHR.
The game engine has a power-on self-test program, if this were removed, it would be possible to reuse this space to program a VS screen closer to that of the Arcade.
ROM: 128K PROM + 512K CROM (Original)
ROM: 256K PROM + 1024K CROM (Modified)
Originally these were my plans, since, if the engine is completely deciphered, the game could be recompiled, opening up many possibilities, be it modifying the VS screen, redrawing the scenes or adding new characters and more!!
And currently the MMC5 mapper is the only one that supports that capability or maybe my research is wrong :-[
NES Space Checker (Capture) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FziBD1vwgW9TVQrTHGpagWNC3VxRn6BD/view?usp=sharing)
PRG: Currently, the data to manage the sprites of a fighter occupies 8k-PRG, therefore, if you want to add three additional fighters, you will need to have 24k-PRG (And if we also included Ken, a total of 30k-PRG would be necessary)
greetings, any news or small advance ? ;)Hello, :thumbsup: thanks for following the thread of this project and always being with good proposals and suggestions, I tell you the project goes ahead, we take a few days for other projects that we have simultaneously and waiting for the sound experts to join, which would be the finishing touch of gold for this great game, it is not ruled out those who have a deeper knowledge in ASM, to modify things that are beyond my reach,(4lorn) regarding ken's hair is something complex to achieve a satisfactory result since they are shared sprites Between characters they also share color palettes with their own body, and it is not just changing the color, the type of hairstyle is different and certain moniments too. As the saying goes, if you are going to do it, do it right! So it is preferable to take a little but arrive at a result worth all the effort! :woot!:
Sics! I am very amazed by the playful way that exposes the changes. There is a tutorial explaining how the changes were made to this screen, both the new sprite distribution and the color palette changes.Can you please tell me where can i find this tutorial you are talking about?, wanna learn how to do this kind of stuff, thanks.
I do some hacks, but my knowledge is limited only to yy-chr and simple color changes.
Thank you!
Nice picture! Much better! Any news Sebastian ?!
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQhlk07dFj4/X7p8op3y8-I/AAAAAAAAA2w/P8RbxQp8p-g3O8wZIyPp8whoV5rtPIq3QCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/dalshin%2Bnew4.bmp)
About the proposal to manage the graphics in a different way so that Ryu and Ken can share part of their designs, although I am not a programmer, it sounds possible to me.
First, it could simply be changed from BankCHR, also the body and the head could be managed as two different characters and even if we take into account that in this game for the title screens there are values that depending on how high they are represent one instruction or another, in In theory it would be possible to program something similar to create an identifier that defines which sprites should be loaded by one character or another :beer:
Nice picture! Much better! Any news Sebastian ?!Good friend, :thumbsup: doing many tests to see how the scenarios can be improved and what shading techniques to use given the limitations of the 8-bit system, there will be news soon :woot!:
Like I said, I'm not programmer but the idea made sense based on what Capcom did for SF2. Regardless of the way it's done by the team working on this NES version, I'm sure it'll be great.Thank you very much for the support and trust, we will do our best beyond the result :thumbsup:
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testing graphic variants for blanka's stage :huh:
was only tested on nes-image-converter
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XW4aIqoxbHw/X8bLIyJ8bdI/AAAAAAAAA5k/Sw09nfVBgjo2WgcjmwHW0vrVjF8BUVwhACLcBGAsYHQ/s0/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529BLANCA%2Bpitomnew24MAQUETA2.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lk05nJssydk/X8fU3py9l8I/AAAAAAAAA5w/orl-y7roanQPtUHwMuta5F8LfbOTtGK_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s0/blanka%2Bensayo%2Bnew.bmp)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-D11LKhxN8b4/X8fm6tSxwWI/AAAAAAAAA58/ER9LDZu2akw_LnYYCvns1T9rh4J5V1sOgCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/blanka%2Bensayo%2Bnew35.png)
Sebastian! I am impressed with the progress of the levels, they are getting very good! Congratulations indeed! I look forward to every new thing!Thank you very much friend !! :) These models are for testing purposes, we still have to evaluate the excess of tiles, and in this blanka scenario I focused more on the combination of colors to be able to make the effect of clouds, the main problem is in excessive consumption of the floor :-\
Hello, as I promised, I'm back here, I had proposed to draw 4 portraits today, but Blanca's design was very complicated, so it took me more time than I thought.Excellent !!! :woot!: I love your designs especially sagat, I think you are very perfectionist, if in terms of space I think there will be no problems for these portraits! :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de9t1i2-24a4a8b5-1acc-4a5f-b635-62cb71079f51.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTl0MWkyLTI0YTRhOGI1LTFhY2MtNGE1Zi1iNjM1LTYyY2I3MTA3OWY1MS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.GgJ5ZU3MdZXIC2xuzazzqfmvFT1gC0oRe_swtNx83ls) (https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de9t1i3-f7e976b4-6e4f-42a0-a320-61d1247c212c.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTl0MWkzLWY3ZTk3NmI0LTZlNGYtNDJhMC1hMzIwLTYxZDEyNDdjMjEyYy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.xX625fyH5PQQkPPgHqVgvkIyHeJZrgnoycoO5ngcZ5I)
Note: Temporary colors, but suggestions are welcome.
On the other hand, I may have to work a little more to perfect them, especially Ryu's, since having drawn it as a demonstration of my work process, I may neglect its design.
Anyway, I still have to analyze the data from the rom to make sure that I have enough space to insert the new designs, but for the moment I will leave that work for my "me" in the future :thumbsup:
The command to perform the Shoryuken/Tiger Uppercut is very difficult. Is it possible to change the command or make a way to make it easier?gustavocomvoce I found something similar to your comment where you mentioned that the movements were difficult to perform:
gustavocomvoce I found something similar to your comment where you mentioned that the movements were difficult to perform:
Street Fighter Simplified Movements
A = P = fist
B = K = kick
RYU
◎ Hadouken → + P
◎ Shoryuken ↓ + P
◎ Helicopter Kick ← + K
Ken ken
◎ Hadouken → + P
◎ Shoryuken ↓ + P
◎ Helicopter Kick ← + K
CHUN LI
◎ One hundred feet K struck
◎ Swing crane feet ↓ ↑ + K
GUILE
◎ Sonic hand knife ← → + P
◎ Foot knife ↓ ↑ + K
DHALSIM
◎ Fire Yoga → + P
White
◎ P-strike electric attack
◎ Cyclist impact ← → + P
VEGA
◎ Rolling Crystal Thorns ← → + P
◎ Flying to Barcelona ↓ ↑ + K · Behind the wall, P
(Controllable movement left and right during descent)
◎ Iizuna Fall ↓ ↑ + K When approaching the enemy behind the wall of bullets, in any direction + P
(Controllable movement left and right during descent)
SAGAT
◎ Greater Tiger Wave → + P
◎ Lower Tiger Wave → + K
◎ The tiger hits ↓ + P
BISON
◎ Critical Spirit ← → + P
◎ Double knee pressure ← → + K
◎ Head extrusion ↓ ↑ + K
(Controllable movement left and right during descent)
→ Ship Attack P (controllable movement left and right during descent)
I think they are based on following the original concept and development of Capcom's port for GameBoy from 1995, which was also a "champion edition".Oh I see, facts there, good then. :thumbsup:
- being able to select 3 bosses
- roster of 9 fighters
- called simply "Street Fighter II" ( portraits and art from Super Street Fighter II since it was released in 1995.)
Basically it would the port for "NES" launched in 1995.
https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_II_(GB) (https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_II_(GB))
I was working on something similar to this but due to lack of programming knowledge, I hit a wall.
The graphics I made at the time looked really nice, though. I don't have them but I can easily recreate them if you need help. I just need you to remind me what was the size (pixel-wise) of the Vs. screen portraits.
For the select screen, I used the Champion Edition portraits instead of the Super SF2 ones. I felt it was more accurate (It's personal preference, of course. I know Capcom did it on the GB as well, but I wasn't too crazy about that choice either. GB SF2 was an odd mish-mash). If you want good looking CE portraits for the select screen, let me know (again, remind me the size).
Supergamerguy
Yes, at first glance there does not seem to be anything that prevents extracting these features from the hack and adding it to our project, I will take a closer look later
Help :laugh:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dea1d7d-12c96a10-304c-4c10-a83d-4ee87827d50c.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWExZDdkLTEyYzk2YTEwLTMwNGMtNGMxMC1hODNkLTRlZTg3ODI3ZDUwYy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.6QKa51Sqw--hlRNyZR37Qy8TGU7Rr0Fe5WDlMWCl5lk)
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(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BOtymogmXSw/X81vk54uLkI/AAAAAAAAA80/t36VamBj7iQ0SH3WLia_Xu-Yg8cARvu4wCLcBGAsYHQ/s384/barco%2Boficial2.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sIuh0UQgEiI/X86K9qDa2nI/AAAAAAAAA9U/OddRnBuhDMo11idy7m89WXxcKtf4EZy9ACLcBGAsYHQ/s387/guille%2B%2B1%2Bfinal2.png) :thumbsup:
Cool! Each person has a workflow in their own way, I edit them by decreasing the colors one by one until there are only 4 colors.
Hahaha it doesn't work like that, they are all part of the final result, either as a reference or as part of the drawing.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dea1m0w-a15954d6-9966-49b9-89be-b2232d78cd22.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWExbTB3LWExNTk1NGQ2LTk5NjYtNDliOS04OWJlLWIyMjMyZDc4Y2QyMi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.Ei1IcXRODGKLbgugo4UNs--Qt4xU31JYkX64YhZrKqc)
(I still have several hours to finish)
And that's nothing, that's just 12 whole images, originally I started with 40 :crazy:
Edit: I was wrong calculating the target size, I have to start from scratch, ups! (https://orig00.deviantart.net/1823/f/2019/091/5/9/ups_by_terwilf-dd3jmae.gif)
Hitokiri & shakunetsuWithin the possibilities, if you manage to include Ken's head, you could also put Akuma. >:D
Will you add new characters?
song6502 has given a fairly complete explanation of the limitations that this would entail, besides there is no dedicated tool for this task, it is simply not feasible to do it by hand.
Planning to make a Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo version or other similar improvements?
In my case, when I finish my time here, I have in mind two projects related to NES fighting games, but nothing as ambitious as what you propose.
I think that both me and sebastianangel would love to take advantage of the Hummer engine to create something new, but it is something out of our possibilities...
Is it possible to modify the backgrounds to make the characters stand out?
Unfortunately, both the NES palette and its possibilities of distribution in the funds are quite prohibitive, not to mention that we have against the limited space that the ROM has.
The ideal would be to create each change by weighing it millimetrically to get the most out of each resource, otherwise we would crash into a wall.
I think that both me and sebastianangel would love to take advantage of the Hummer engine to create something new, but it is something out of our possibilities...
Supergamerguy
Sorry, I don't like fighting games, although now I'm looking forward to seeing the movie you mentioned, anyway my main goal here is to describe everything necessary for anyone to do their own modification.
It would be very cool if you guys could help me reskin (and possibly remusic?) this hack into my Pacific Rim concept (which I have fully planned out at this point but am waiting to start until this project is fully finished). Would be great to have you, Sebastian angel, Xandermax, and maybe Ti (for new music) on board when I start. :thumbsup:Supergamerguy is sad to say, but using SF3 in a total character change project I believe to be unfeasible, this game has a complex system of tiles with layers, it would do an extreme job to transform it into Pacific Rim. If I were to use something like this, I would use some Japanese game with a similar theme, like Godzila or another existing giant robot.
Supergamerguy is sad to say, but using SF3 in a total character change project I believe to be unfeasible, this game has a complex system of tiles with layers, it would do an extreme job to transform it into Pacific Rim. If I were to use something like this, I would use some Japanese game with a similar theme, like Godzila or another existing giant robot.
Now, if I had a fighting game suggestion that would fit better, I would use NES Tekken to turn it into Pacific Rim.
shakunetsu
No, the space is always the same regardless of the color used, what it can influence is the amount of graphics required to draw an area :thumbsup:
Hitokiri(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2JYN8XhUUec/X9E99NX6EkI/AAAAAAAAA_c/T0EB-DU7nIQ0rqPdK9_shmY-8KXcfnfXwCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/109225xseba.png) :thumbsup:
the most striking thing is that the chun li stage had and they did not use it in the SF Zero 97 ( SF Zero ) :-\
Chun li stage ( hidden game code )
(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/106/109225.png?updated=1536868404)
Hitokiri
the most striking thing is that the chun li stage had and they did not use it in the SF Zero 97 ( SF Zero ) :-\
Chun li stage ( hidden game code )
(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/106/109225.png?updated=1536868404)
Hitokiri & Supergamerguy
When I started, the machine translation tools weren't that sophisticated and since I never got along with languages other than mine, I didn't have the possibility of accessing any tutorial, but that was not a limitation for me.
And no, I did not have other knowledge related to the world of computing, less I am some kind of gifted, indeed I am the least intelligent of my brothers.
That's why I just loaded the game in the emulator and began to delete random data until I touched something that affected what I saw in the game, analyzing again and again what was happening, slowly I was taking more and more notion of why each thing happened.
Even for each graphic edit I wanted to do, at the beginning I had to rebuild each frame sprite by sprite in an image editor, which made for each small modification it was a torture to assemble and disassemble graphics.
Many still think that Sonic Improvement Vol.2 is just an appendix to Jabu's project, when in fact it dates from 2006 :D
Nothing is easy, but at the same time nothing is impossible, it is just a matter of trying to find a way to do it:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/deaable-98f5fc24-ffd6-4edb-907b-e07919db1be3.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWFhYmxlLTk4ZjVmYzI0LWZmZDYtNGVkYi05MDdiLWUwNzkxOWRiMWJlMy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.fg4mzxhlxnEHPXueVg6UJSlM5wJue9eMNyxbBmdCzhU)
It is obvious, the more experience, the easier each thing seems, but despite this it is always a good time to start :thumbsup:
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I finally had to start over :laugh:
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Changing the subject, as someone will surely end up asking, Chun-Li's sprite is not a recreation, it just adapts the data of some sprites to the format that the NES Screen Tool can read, in theory this could be automated with a script, but neither It takes a long time to do it manually, as I said before I am not interested in doing this task, but it seems important to clarify that it is not something unfeasible, it just requires a lot of work.
Sebastian, very good images! Just a detail, the structure in the center of the screen is a bell, in the original it is attached to the ceiling and has a shadow on the ground. The rest is perfect.Thank you very much xander max! Very nice detail, I moved some things to add the ceiling :beer:
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1. At a graphic level thanks to (tygerbug) he taught us to use nest screem tool. We achieved great graphic changes and title screen editing and new selection of characters, now we are dedicated to the wallpapers of the different scenarios.
2. Our problems focus specifically on very technical situations, for example (users ask us to add a new character or for example when we play versus we always have the same background scenario ... ect ... :banghead: I thank you very much in advance.
3. Many recommended us to expand to MMC5 but we discarded all that when (TI)
It helped us by expanding the memory and adding new songs and then the rom was no longer viable to play in a real nes, it only worked in emulators there we decided to adjust to all the limitations!
4. These are some of our advances, there is still a lot to do, what draws our attention is that it has the best game engine :o seen in any nes game, it is far ahead of any official game! :)
Here is the promised patch for level select. Works for 1 and 2 player. Once you press select you can choose levels yourself. Else it will run the selection based on the opponent as usual. This is based on the ROM you shared with me.
Probably named as Street Fighter III (9 Fighter) (Unl).nes
File SHA-1: 2916D55BE157858EB377B4A22F070763D9B07AC1
File CRC32: 22CDD2F6
ROM SHA-1: 13FF5A62AFE5EE7B4EA5D537EE92BFA253EB98F6
ROM CRC32: A09AA82C
I provided a IPS and also the source with general info. It might be helpful to anyone who likes to start getting the hand dirty with code.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivov46z65hynovh/Streetfigher3LevelSelect.zip?dl=0
The research required and anything else it was a 5h task for me. I am aware that it might have bugs or might even crash. I did not have any as I tested but given how the game is build and how I had to implement the changes many things are possible.
Update: Do you think I been technical so far? This are general suggestions why to go for things. There are some technical info's in the readme. Goodbye and good luck. If you keep beeing frustrated since you don't like to make progress with learning technical stuff. As a artist you can go to many sprite resource pages and match yourself with other artist there. Way less frustrating as doing hackerinos with some old ROMz.
Sure I hope for you to find some programmer dude jump along so the project can be finished in a good state. Been reading up on some stuff and thinking about the task involved making the port (but it is technical..). If you find anyone interested to do the change and likes to talk a bit technical about it I don't mind contacting me. I do have general interest to bring people ahead and learn stuff.
Here is the promised patch for level select. Works for 1 and 2 player. Once you press select you can choose levels yourself. Else it will run the selection based on the opponent as usual. This is based on the ROM you shared with me.fantastic !!! :crazy: thank you so much for the great work :thumbsup:
Probably named as Street Fighter III (9 Fighter) (Unl).nes
File SHA-1: 2916D55BE157858EB377B4A22F070763D9B07AC1
File CRC32: 22CDD2F6
ROM SHA-1: 13FF5A62AFE5EE7B4EA5D537EE92BFA253EB98F6
ROM CRC32: A09AA82C
I provided a IPS and also the source with general info. It might be helpful to anyone who likes to start getting the hand dirty with code.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivov46z65hynovh/Streetfigher3LevelSelect.zip?dl=0
The research required and anything else it was a 5h task for me. I am aware that it might have bugs or might even crash. I did not have any as I tested but given how the game is build and how I had to implement the changes many things are possible.
Update: Do you think I been technical so far? This are general suggestions why to go for things. There are some technical info's in the readme. Goodbye and good luck. If you keep beeing frustrated since you don't like to make progress with learning technical stuff. As a artist you can go to many sprite resource pages and match yourself with other artist there. Way less frustrating as doing hackerinos with some old ROMz.
Sure I hope for you to find some programmer dude jump along so the project can be finished in a good state. Been reading up on some stuff and thinking about the task involved making the port (but it is technical..). If you find anyone interested to do the change and likes to talk a bit technical about it I don't mind contacting me. I do have general interest to bring people ahead and learn stuff.
I did look at the bank swapping for CHR and then did see how the game does pull off to have that many tiles for one BG. It does make use of IRQ counter to break on scanlines to swap to other banks with different tiles. Makes me think it is a nightmare to arrange BGs for this game since I guess you organize this in one name table. There are some tables around CPU $c000 that organize on what line to break followed with the value of the bank to swap to.
Not sure it there is a lot to talk about. I was looking at the IRQ stuff and how it works on the MMC5. This will be some extra work for this game. Also was wondering what the MMC5 should be used for.
I wonder if adding CHR will break the game to run on real hardware. So here a patch where I double that space. https://www.dropbox.com/s/z67meulfidspow9/StreetFighterIII%289Fighter%29CHR%20Expansion.ips?dl=0
Update:
Nevermind. I did misunderstand the register $8000 and submapper0 stuff. I don't see a way to use the expanded banks. In this case I see a good use to convert MMC5 so it is easier to expand the memory. Sure it would be interesting to see how Ti went about the expansion.
Great! :thumbsup: I tried it and it works perfect without errors! :beer: Then we will improve the visual aspect as you say, thank you very much for the contribution, I will try to improve myself and improve by learning these good techniques little by little, surely your teachings will always be well received! Greetings and again :woot!: thank you very much for your time and work :thumbsup:
here I am sure that (xander max),(sics)and(song) who are part of the project and have technical knowledge will be happy to chat with you, for my part I try to follow the thread but I am far from their knowledge but I will learn :beer:
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Here is the promised patch for level select. Works for 1 and 2 player. Once you press select you can choose levels yourself. Else it will run the selection based on the opponent as usual. This is based on the ROM you shared with me.
Probably named as Street Fighter III (9 Fighter) (Unl).nes
File SHA-1: 2916D55BE157858EB377B4A22F070763D9B07AC1
File CRC32: 22CDD2F6
ROM SHA-1: 13FF5A62AFE5EE7B4EA5D537EE92BFA253EB98F6
ROM CRC32: A09AA82C
I provided a IPS and also the source with general info. It might be helpful to anyone who likes to start getting the hand dirty with code.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivov46z65hynovh/Streetfigher3LevelSelect.zip?dl=0
The research required and anything else it was a 5h task for me. I am aware that it might have bugs or might even crash. I did not have any as I tested but given how the game is build and how I had to implement the changes many things are possible.
Update: Do you think I been technical so far? This are general suggestions why to go for things. There are some technical info's in the readme. Goodbye and good luck. If you keep beeing frustrated since you don't like to make progress with learning technical stuff. As a artist you can go to many sprite resource pages and match yourself with other artist there. Way less frustrating as doing hackerinos with some old ROMz.
Sure I hope for you to find some programmer dude jump along so the project can be finished in a good state. Been reading up on some stuff and thinking about the task involved making the port (but it is technical..). If you find anyone interested to do the change and likes to talk a bit technical about it I don't mind contacting me. I do have general interest to bring people ahead and learn stuff.
Hello, I found a nes game which contain feilong：
http://retrovania-vgjunk.blogspot.com/2017/07/dragon-fighter-nes.html
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I am flattered when you remember me, but do you believe I know only how to change sprites and colors in games? I know nothing about programming, I am delighted with those who know NES programming, since it is something that I find quite complex because it is not in my personal work area. Because changing NES games is just a hobby, I end up making even more simple changes. But a good team is this, each one has his or her own talents and everyone works together for a common good! I admire you Sebastian! And I am happy with each evolution of this project, every day I take a peek here.Thank you very much :thumbsup: (xander max) for your words I think we are both enthusiastic and I think there is great potential in you, you have many fantastic projects, admiration is mutual, your report on (Hummer Cheng) is very good :crazy:
Fantastic implementation, the duels will be less monotonous. :thumbsup:
Better than that, it would be if only Hummer Cheng provided a development kit from the Hummer team :police:
http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php/Hummer_Cheng
Here is an interview with him
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/pgc_forums/hello-t25.html
For me it is strange that he expanded the new banks at the beginning of PRG banks.
I can make a disassembly if there is still a lot of work left for you to do. Maybe converting to MMC5. I'm gonna need a fully (as much as you can) logged CDL file (from original game, not hack), and all the info you've got about ROM and RAM addresses.If there is a lot of work left to do, :crazy: it would be great if you could do it !!!
Shouldn't take too long for me since there is like only 10% of PRG is code by the looks of it.
I can decompress background data in order to edit any tiles and attributes more easily.
You are welcome. When it works for your hack I could imagine that the visual appearance is something you don't like. This is also the part where I am the most worried it will break something. Overall I did ignore how the game handles sprites and hardcoded my stuff in after the game was done doing the sprite stuff for that screen.hello there seems to be an error when finishing playing vs mode with the stage selector that locks the game when returning to the game map :-\
Not done in a way where you just change some data table to make the sprite bigger but would be a easy thing to do in the code.. Still the sprite is metadata and I only process Xpos when selecting a different stage.
I did think it would be best to hack the plain routine to be triggered earlier and use that one to cruse around the map to indicate the stage. But this takes time to revers engineer. If you don't find any crash might be easier to code the plain logic yourself or change it to something that looks visual pleasing .
discord: sebastiangammer # 7450
https://www.romhacking.net
Telegram:
@sebastianangelhack
hello there seems to be an error when finishing playing vs mode with the stage selector that locks the game when returning to the game map :-\
Don't know what the other protection does, and I don't really want to find out, getting destroyed by the girl was enough pain already :'(
Thank you very much :beer: !!! I will try it again but now if I suppose it will be great, thanks again ;D
I already tested it and it works great :crazy:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This is a great Christmas gift :)
SF2 Nes port with Gameboy and Spectrum sprites colored.
- Either porting the stages from GB version or the C64 version but using Gameboy and Spectrum character sprites
file CHR_ROM.chr
C0000-C37FF = title
C3800-C6FFF = player select
C7000-CA7FF = VS
CA800-CDFFF = continue
CE000-D17FF = defeat (same as VS but without VS logo and someone's face beaten)
D1800-D4FFF = ending Chun-Li
D5000-D87FF = ending Ryu
D8800-DBFFF = ending Guile
DC000-DF7FF = ending Blanka
DF800-E2FFF = ending Dhalsim
E3000-E67FF = ending Ken
E6800-E9FFF = ending Balrog
EA000-ED7FF = ending Sagat
ED800-F0FFF = ending Vega
file CHR_ROM.chr
80000-85FFF = stage Chun-Li
86000-8BFFF = stage Ryu
8C000-91FFF = stage Guile
92000-97FFF = stage Dhalsim
98000-9DFFF = stage Blanka
9E000-A3FFF = stage Ken
A4000-A9FFF = stage Balrog
AA000-AFFFF = stage Sagat
B0000-B5FFF = stage Vega
Read Sprites
0X : Manual entry.
7F XX: Repeating pattern. <
8X : Repeat value.
CX : Write ascending value.
Mainly, what is the advantage of having the game decompiled?
If we consider it later, is it possible to add new characters to the game?
Can we create scenarios with the space we need, or is there some kind of restriction beyond the known ones?
And I honestly don't know how to carry out these tasks in assembler code.
On the other hand, I am curious about how they access the new CHR banks, since as you know previously the graphics of the Chun-Li stage were practically at the limit of what the game will allow to address.
And I would also like to know if the endings will have the same benefits as the rest of the screens.
Is it possible to create a similar identifier, to establish groups of sprites that should only be loaded by X player?
There are still many things to adjust in this scenario, now you can see that I adjust the floor tiles and some other things later I will take care of the color :thumbsup:
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This is already an impressive job!!! :thumbsup: ;DThank you very much, we hope to live up to your expectations :thumbsup:
Thank you very much, we hope to live up to your expectations :thumbsup:
Thank you very much, very good your suggestions, we will analyze if there is any way to implement them later,If possible, you can do some research on 'fighting hero 3', because it have a accurate and correct command system.
The ground movement of (TMNT Tournament Fighters) is also very good :thumbsup:
Invite Link https://discord.gg/PvFgxRg
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No, the modification that you propose is not possible, at least not in the way you have proposed it, the most feasible option would be to change the background color to blue, but as you can see the result would be quite poor:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de86881-2a144144-3b0c-491d-95ff-5265d9b443d4.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTg2ODgxLTJhMTQ0MTQ0LTNiMGMtNDkxZC05NWZmLTUyNjVkOWI0NDNkNC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.fcBkcq2uYwFRNaYracuyUcbUzy_Y31_OQAIPO7dvD3Q)
Is it possible to replace a character in hummer engine with a different one?I believe everything is possible for those who have knowledge within the limitations of the system, for my part lacking in said ability, I am a rustic graphic artist, the black box can be changed but it will ruin the other colors, since they are shared with other things of estage.
Or it's too technical in the backend?
like for example Dhalsim being replace with Cammy then it's like a SUPER SF2 already.
Hi sics and sebastianangel
Upon seeing this dhalsim stage
Is the black box that had the lifebar can be change with colors?
Like you can make it Green in blanka stage and then yellow for claw/vega stage
Or is it always in black that it depends on the color of the black in the particular stage?
Sorry for so many question I asked. I'm not adept with pixel art and technicalities in nes rom hacking but I can help with other visual and graphic topics.
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Is this black box that contain scores a separate box from the black box which has the lifebar inside?
or it is just an extension of the black box that has the lifebar inside?
Does both in the same color palette??
Is a DARKER BLUe possible in this or it's not in the color libraries?
I hope there would a version with championship edition accurate portraits in this blue bg color.
PhotoScape has two very interesting functions integrated, which are TROCEADOR and MURAL.
Considering that each stage measures 384x192, it can simply be cut into 128x8 strips.
0. (You reduce its palette to 4 colors)
1. You load the stage in TROCEADOR, you go to the tab ANCHO, ALTO, and you configure it 128x8.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debmuoj-f09e4019-2bda-4609-aa58-63caadf31ccb.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJtdW9qLWYwOWU0MDE5LTJiZGEtNDYwOS1hYTU4LTYzY2FhZGYzMWNjYi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.cS7eLjZzUSv8-WaqOJJqxQK-eBmzZNhgS1sXUQvtU2o)
2. You press TROCEAR and in the options box you set the FORMATO DE IMAGEN to PNG.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debmuo8-f0d3ea2b-2763-472a-8ef5-d71e8fa320a7.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJtdW84LWYwZDNlYTJiLTI3NjMtNDcyYS04ZWY1LWQ3MWU4ZmEzMjBhNy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.3TeXzcJfmQ69fsvikXkyVrKLvVTelTzJXE9Qrun389k)
Ready! Now a folder called OUTPUT will be created where all the fragments of the image will be saved.
You load the cutouts into the MURAL tool (Also from PhotoScape) using the AÑADIR button.
You will have something like this:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debmuo2-e4698ece-d078-4bfd-a33f-2df4c2bd326d.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJtdW8yLWU0Njk4ZWNlLWQwNzgtNGJmZC1hMzNmLTJkZjRjMmJkMzI2ZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.3wMLa7y3OEomUzdPE5qvNrAvq8EWp8nb-Wgr05v4jxQ)
1. In COLUMNAS you put it in 1.
2. In LIENZO you put MANTENER EL TAMAÑO ORIGINAL.
3. Keep MARGEN, SEPARACIÓN and REDONDEO at Zero.
As you can see here, the black lines that are located after every three graph strips are missing:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debmunx-b9e2ed90-aad9-4ea7-81d9-4578ceb59f59.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJtdW54LWI5ZTJlZDkwLWFhZDktNGVhNy04MWQ5LTQ1NzhjZWI1OWY1OS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.7vSOuZXOPDScyZLx1B29vcelim7fwPpvI8AVMy9nNvI)
To solve this, create a 128x8 black strip that you will duplicate to fill in the empty spaces and gualá:
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3. You save the file in PNG format, you chop it up again, but now in 128x128 tiles to pass them to the game :beer:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debmunb-a9613c31-6580-4ddf-a59b-d365a53ea4b6.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJtdW5iLWE5NjEzYzMxLTY1ODAtNGRkZi1hNTliLWQzNjVhNTNlYTRiNi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.noNAgAYGamTB_u4df-lsYP0m_Lkc_TL3-txzGnwbaIY)
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(Sorry, I used apps in Spanish, anyway I don't think it's that hard to understand)
shakunetsu
I am somewhat lost with so much information, but I think the most reasonable proposal is the one based on KOF96, not only because it is a similar game, but because TMNT Tournament Fighters uses sprites to write these messages.
Just to do a quick update, I'm close to completing the first set of portraits :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debrvse-0c3eae84-76f8-4a64-a1d8-3cb52858d594.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJydnNlLTBjM2VhZTg0LTc2ZjgtNGE2NC1hMWQ4LTNjYjUyODU4ZDU5NC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.09LjJWHj5h_NSetEcgbPT3Xgi18vIEdaeEnF8nT1NXY)
Although Vega is giving me more problems than expected, I cannot find an adequate color distribution to achieve a quality consistent with the rest of the portraits :-\
Anyway I will do my best! :beer:
Thank you very much for the information all information is welcome !!! :beer:The scenery is very beautiful, the evolution made here is admirable!
here I keep fighting haha with colors and nametables :o
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P4-DpoJZtRY/X_PQ0K66VjI/AAAAAAAABOo/o1wttqacvFAjIQGubmutRrQeKKqFDFjKgCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3seba%2Bcaras%2Bseleccion%2Bstage14%2Bblanka9_001.png)
Just to do a quick update, I'm close to completing the first set of portraits :thumbsup:Sics is the Midas of hacking rom, where touch turns to gold! Excellent pictures!
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/debrvse-0c3eae84-76f8-4a64-a1d8-3cb52858d594.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWJydnNlLTBjM2VhZTg0LTc2ZjgtNGE2NC1hMWQ4LTNjYjUyODU4ZDU5NC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.09LjJWHj5h_NSetEcgbPT3Xgi18vIEdaeEnF8nT1NXY)
Although Vega is giving me more problems than expected, I cannot find an adequate color distribution to achieve a quality consistent with the rest of the portraits :-\
Anyway I will do my best! :beer:
Thank you very much friend! :beer: We continue to advance little by little, here are some details still to be polished stage bison :thumbsup:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5BXLg99fQj8/X_kIBo7mO7I/AAAAAAAABRo/Ago_xMK9sno1W_1EjJL63JFOTixXAGrvwCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/Street%2BFighter%2BIII%2B%25289%2BFighter%2529%2Bbison%2528Unl%2529.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DfLPrOpMOGo/X_kHlkPaSFI/AAAAAAAABRg/UQDaUGl0wbMSaW2Muv_wwaipx8TWRQ6gwCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3x5new%2Bpisocolorizado3_001.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXv1MCYfwcE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXv1MCYfwcE)
if the names were correcte! :thumbsup:
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We still need to finish correcting several stages
Is it possible to separate it or add spacess then turn it's container to just a rectangle?
It would be great if instead of creating a single gigantic group, you divided them into smaller groups to better visualize your work, it would also help a lot if you chose a background color that is not present in the images, since that way it would be easier cut them if necessary to delve into a design :thumbsup:
yes!
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chun lee stage beta tester and vega stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRzivBp9xac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRzivBp9xac)
here the stage chun lee finished but already in the game
thanks to new techniques learned together with sics :crazy:
Wow. I am speechless. Good work. It is looking great!(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Dl6fpQtTNwU/YBKm9XXYluI/AAAAAAAABcE/ZSedyvoDjDkLlXrIr0WecLUItnAtJuQ7QCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/STREET%2BFIGTHER%2B2%2BGIF%2BRYU.gif)
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Hi all,Welcome Amilgi! :thumbsup: Thank you for agreeing to help us and give us this hearing wonder, it sounds great !!! :crazy:
Sebastian DM'd me the other day looking for help with the music on this project and I'm open to help contribute, love the street fighter OSTs.
I can't offer much in the way of actually hacking any music in (I've only ever done simple palette/tile/graphic hacks), but I can write replacement music/sfx in FamiTracker with whatever restrictions are necessary to enable implementation.
When I wrote the Sonic Improvement OST I didn't know it was gonna end up in a hack, I just happened to write it with the idea of making it rudimentary/"of-the-era", which likely facilitated it. Ti did all the hacking afaik.
Some questions for discussion:
Technical:Non-technical:
- I assume we'd be using 2a03 only w/o DPCM? If we're truly set on using MMC5, there's an opportunity to use those 2 extra pulse channels at the cost of compatibility, space, and ease of implementation.
- Does using instruments in FamiTracker hinder hacking/implementation at all? I can survive without, but having them can help with sound design, especially for the percussion (otherwise drums end up pretty mediocre)
- Are we tight on data space?
- Are there any sfx that use non-noise channels? And if so which channels are they on? If I know which pulse channel gets used I can bias the leads towards the non-sfx channel to avoid the music awkwardly cutting out.
- I've been using j0CC FamiTracker (0.6.3.0), I doubt this impacts much
- Sebastian specifically mentioned the title theme and character select, but I'm down to do the whole OST. Not familiar with the original bootleg but checking the .NSF quick it looks like there's 14 songs, what are they? Title, character select, 9 character themes - what are the other 3?
- I was planning on using the original arcade release (world warrior) for reference. Other versions seem to have theme variations (eg. SNES, Arcade Turbo, etc.) and/or detune many of the songs by a few semitones (eg. X68000). I imagine I'll just go by ear and see what fits better, but if anyone has strong opinions lmk.
- Any preferences in style? I was planning on treating it like I did the sonic improvement ost - keep arrangements simple, avoid arpeggios and wild effects, keep the triangle closer to midrange, etc.
- Any interest in updating sfx too? I'm less experienced in this department but it could be fun
An irl work project fell through me, so I've got the weekend off to get started on this - so let me know your thoughts on the above.
I took a crack at the character select already, here's the .0cc/.nsf/.mp3: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19NhsOk6AMy53Pe_2XFR5uI0mXU0NkRIH?usp=sharing
Graphics are looking great btw :beer:
That background is way too bland. Going to add some good old 0F patterns to the water so it looks more believable?Thank you very much for your observation, the idea is to add a darker tone to simulate water and the sky should have another tone so as not to be confused with blanka :beer:
AmilgiSon fantasticos parecen de una consola superior SICS :crazy:
This sounds too good, congratulations and welcome! :beer:
sebastianangel
Excellent work, it is completely different to see the stages in motion :thumbsup:
For my part, although I still could not draw Vega with the quality quality that I want, I decided to continue with the portraits of defeat, I still have to do some, and then correct the details :D
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/ded7j0s-53f5ad7b-ada2-4477-8b61-e1df952ad474.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWQ3ajBzLTUzZjVhZDdiLWFkYTItNDQ3Ny04YjYxLWUxZGY5NTJhZDQ3NC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.qQ8Yn6dO9C0tNRakiGPLnRiCIypU5k19tNZRdVgdiwA)
(http://www.bwass.org/bucket/L2.png)Portraits without filters (https://sta.sh/0uv226a79dt)
I was working on something similar to this but due to lack of programming knowledge, I hit a wall.
The graphics I made at the time looked really nice, though. I don't have them but I can easily recreate them if you need help. I just need you to remind me what was the size (pixel-wise) of the Vs. screen portraits.
For the select screen, I used the Champion Edition portraits instead of the Super SF2 ones. I felt it was more accurate (It's personal preference, of course. I know Capcom did it on the GB as well, but I wasn't too crazy about that choice either. GB SF2 was an odd mish-mash). If you want good looking CE portraits for the select screen, let me know (again, remind me the size).
I know people have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating: Since the game is based on vanilla SF2, I really think you should go with the non-Super portraits. The original game has those, except they're really ugly. It wouldn't be too hard to improve the quality if we could use all tiles (instead of the way they're currently set up).
I find the roster art and portraits very successful to follow the original concept of Capcom's port for the 1995 GameBoy or the Master System, portraits and roster "modern art" Super Street Fighter II although it was also simply "Champion Edition".
- select 3 bosses
- list of 9 fighters
Congratulations to the entire development team for this project. It is as if it were the official "NES" port that Capcom would launch in 1995 along with the GameBoy.
It's looking good so far, all it needs now is a combo system like the arcade and console versions :thumbsup:
Wait, does the game not have a combo system natively?
Not that I know of
I think he was referring to a consecutive hits counter, like the ones used in modern fighting games. This game has a way of hitting your enemy consecutively, it just can't keep track of hits.
It's looking good so far, all it needs now is a combo system like the arcade and console versions :thumbsup:It may be too hard to achieve on nes console......
It may be too hard to achieve on nes console......
If maybe later with the help of some experienced programmer we can add the combos! :thumbsup:WOW! COOL!
End of weekend soundtrack update:Fantastic musical tracks and transition of combat, special mention to the song of Vega that I always liked, it sounds wonderful :crazy:
- Finished drafts of the VS. music as well as Dhalsim's, Vega's, and Sagat's themes. I intended to avoid arps but the chords in the Sagat's theme were just begging for one haha
- Started on the title theme - made one based on the arcade and one based on the SNES. I think I'll probably stick with the arcade
- Got a start on all the other character themes - I think Ryu's and Bison's will be the trickiest to capture with just the 2a03. You can listen to my WIPs via the .0cc module or .nsf
- For a lot of themes, I'm having to choose between a lead echo vs. a backing instrument. As much as I love the echos prominent in the originals, trying to use them here means we're left with just bass+lead, and often results in awkward section transitions. So I'll probably be looking to use single-channel echos when possible (see: Blanka's theme), or tuck them behind the backing instruments into the 2nd channel (see: character select)
- Noise only drums without famitracker instruments definitely feel mediocre, especially vs. the PCM originals. Since I'd rather avoid composing at speed 1 haha, if whoever ends up working on implementation can confirm instrument use doesn't inhibit hacking I'll be happy to improve things here.
- Combined all the songs into one module for easier mixing/editing/comparing
.0cc/.nsf of the full module + .mp3s of vs/dhalsim/vega/sagat: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
Any feedback/suggestions are appreciated. I'll keep chipping away at the remaining themes over the coming weeks.
End of weekend soundtrack update:
- Finished drafts of the VS. music as well as Dhalsim's, Vega's, and Sagat's themes. I intended to avoid arps but the chords in the Sagat's theme were just begging for one haha
- Started on the title theme - made one based on the arcade and one based on the SNES. I think I'll probably stick with the arcade
- Got a start on all the other character themes - I think Ryu's and Bison's will be the trickiest to capture with just the 2a03. You can listen to my WIPs via the .0cc module or .nsf
- For a lot of themes, I'm having to choose between a lead echo vs. a backing instrument. As much as I love the echos prominent in the originals, trying to use them here means we're left with just bass+lead, and often results in awkward section transitions. So I'll probably be looking to use single-channel echos when possible (see: Blanka's theme), or tuck them behind the backing instruments into the 2nd channel (see: character select)
- Noise only drums without famitracker instruments definitely feel mediocre, especially vs. the PCM originals. Since I'd rather avoid composing at speed 1 haha, if whoever ends up working on implementation can confirm instrument use doesn't inhibit hacking I'll be happy to improve things here.
- Combined all the songs into one module for easier mixing/editing/comparing
.0cc/.nsf of the full module + .mp3s of vs/dhalsim/vega/sagat: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
Any feedback/suggestions are appreciated. I'll keep chipping away at the remaining themes over the coming weeks.
I think the Super portraits look amazingly well done. They fit with the theme and the in game player graphics of each fighter well. Besides, they've already done the work to make it fit, which was likely no easy task.
Another soundtrack update:Your work is really fantastic, the songs sound great !!! it's a luxury thank you very much this project reaches another level :crazy: I am inclined to sound short classifications :beer:
- Finished drafts of the title theme, Blanka, Ken, Chun Li, and M Bison (10/14 now or ~70% drafted)
- Updated drums in Dhalsim's theme. Still not quite satisfied, having trouble getting a good rimshot sound without instruments. Plus the drums are well-layered on this theme, hard to match the feel with just 1 noise channel
- Made lots of small edits/updates throughout. Will probably need to update drums on most.
- Made a little progress on Ryu & Guile. Deciding between an echo vs. harmony for the first "verse" of Guile's. Ryu's shouldn't be as tricky as I first thought
- Will definitely need to do some mixing once everything's drafted to keep volume levels consistent across the soundtrack
- For the final rankings end screen, do we just want the short rankings jingle, or do we want the longer credits theme instead?
.0cc/.nsf of the full module + .mp3s of drafted themes: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
Although the graphics were designed taking into account the possibilities offered by the original hack, currently the project was transferred to the teardown created by Cyneprepou4uk, so I'm honestly not sure how to proceed.The portraits are great there are many variants to choose from fantastic sics :thumbsup:
Since the portraits I work on will require a little more space than the originals, I guess in the best case, it's just a matter of rewriting them directly on site and adjusting some parameters, I say this, because the original plan required move part of your data to another sector that you had previously vacated.
But O.S. It is not compatible with Discord, and even if it was, my PC is not powerful enough to use it, so I am not fully informed about many of the details of this hack :P
On the other hand, I do not understand the priorities of some, if I was not busy with portraits it could help in other areas and I even think that this could be more interesting for many :-\
Note: Try to avoid deleting the least amount of images possible, to share with sebastianangel my way of working, maybe someone else might be interested, so I attach the (https://orig00.deviantart.net/1614/f/2019/087/8/c/download_by_terwilf-dd39bcf.gif)file (https://mega.nz/file/eZgWRQZZ#1aTnZA1UO982iWHqUr6tL70kP-rwO1oyddCieX_uBA0) here too...
The images are in Firework format, so they have additional information, anyway I think Photoshop currently supports that type of .PNG files :thumbsup:
By the way, thanks to Amilgi, Bart is dancing again :laugh: I insist, I would love to know your creative process :beer:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/de7xcdx-f8f2e43f-73a6-4e8f-8c3f-5c83deb74a37.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZTd4Y2R4LWY4ZjJlNDNmLTczYTYtNGU4Zi04YzNmLTVjODNkZWI3NGEzNy5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.NiXYac6ioki9LsQiWx9cnkVqVVSUOuVsw4mZbFmqd6A)
Here's my attempt with Champion Edition portraits... a bit too dark for my taste, but it may work.
Uniformly colored version:
(https://i.imgur.com/t6UGrPU.png)
Color suggestions (not NES accurate, just a reference image):
(https://i.imgur.com/CucY2iI.png)
Here's my attempt with Champion Edition portraits... a bit too dark for my taste, but it may work.Woah! great work on these, I really like them!
Uniformly colored version:
(https://i.imgur.com/t6UGrPU.png)
Color suggestions (not NES accurate, just a reference image):
(https://i.imgur.com/CucY2iI.png)
Another soundtrack update:Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, I think we could use the collaboration of someone who handles the technical aspects of the sound engine of this game :happy:
- Finished drafts of the title theme, Blanka, Ken, Chun Li, and M Bison (10/14 now or ~70% drafted)
- Updated drums in Dhalsim's theme. Still not quite satisfied, having trouble getting a good rimshot sound without instruments. Plus the drums are well-layered on this theme, hard to match the feel with just 1 noise channel
- Made lots of small edits/updates throughout. Will probably need to update drums on most.
- Made a little progress on Ryu & Guile. Deciding between an echo vs. harmony for the first "verse" of Guile's. Ryu's shouldn't be as tricky as I first thought
- Will definitely need to do some mixing once everything's drafted to keep volume levels consistent across the soundtrack
- For the final rankings end screen, do we just want the short rankings jingle, or do we want the longer credits theme instead?
.0cc/.nsf of the full module + .mp3s of drafted themes: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing)
Graphicus very good job! Thank you very much for collaborating this could be the optional ips patch for what you requested the champion edition style :thumbsup:
We already have the Super SFII portraits, which are very good, and match those used in the GB and SMS versions.But if this is trying to be a port of SFII for Nes that's in line with Champion Edition we should try to keep it close-ish to the old CPS1 sprites.
Lusofonia we will do our best !!!
I just hope it doesn't look too jerky. the 8 sprites per scanline limitation makes the NES unsuitable for fighters without clever workarounds like Nintendo's Joy Mecha Fight but I've always wanted to see attempts made.
Finished the soundtrack draft!Fantastic work Amilgui! :beer: They are listening wonderfully I will contact technical help for the implementation of these songs in the game! :crazy:
New drafts include Ryu, Guile, Stage End, and Credits. Made tweaks to the other themes too.
.0cc + .nsf + .mp3s here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
As always feedback is appreciated - I went through a few revisions on Ryu's and Guile's, messing with backing instruments, octaves, etc trying to arrive at something decent. Guile's especially, I keep going back and forth :banghead:
There's still some polishing I'd like to do (mixing, etc.) but until we know the technical requirements I'll hold off as to not waste effort.
That said as soon as we find a collaborator willing to help with in-game implementation I can work with them to help modify the soundtrack as needed to make it fit and see if we can add in anything extra.
Main item of interest would probably be touching up the SFX. I'm sure they could be made better/crisper/clearer, and maybe we could add more unique ones depending on how the code is set up. Making new SFX would also allow for easier loudness balancing between the music and SFX. Other ideas could include adding the continue/countdown theme, or as someone else mentioned, add the capcom opening jingle.
Regarding the reprogramming of the game, the people most committed to the project do not have the necessary level of knowledge to carry out this task.
Understanding that the rest work independently, I suppose that although it is good to contribute ideas, the most realistic thing is to assume that if we do not find new members willing to test their skills in this area, those ideas will not be able to be implemented ;)
Hello, I want to share with you a new update of my portraits, I know that it will take some time, but I had enough problems adapting to Bison and Chun-Li...
Bison, because he seems like a completely different person when he's defeated and Chun-Li because of the meager amount of colors I have to work with :laugh:
The giant size of Sagat's hand still worries me, but it is part of the original design, so it would be a mistake to make modifications, although I have noticed that in the Arcade version that hand is not present in his defeat portrait, perhaps that explains why seems out of place ...
Anyway, in general lines I think the result has been satisfactory, it would only remain to finish the portrait of Vega, to begin the tests to add them to the game, wish me luck :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/deexd18-484aa5f7-b4b4-4bda-a9d7-9b09fb552f55.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWV4ZDE4LTQ4NGFhNWY3LWI0YjQtNGJkYS1hOWQ3LTliMDlmYjU1MmY1NS5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.UToM0_51t62xkybguNGRxh8mlOrfexP6mjNzk9suFzE)
Amilgi
I really liked how your compositions evolved, the only observation that I could share is that in Ryu's melody, the tonality chosen for pulse channel 1 was somewhat strange, it reminds me of the sound that is played when pausing Double Dragon II's game NES.
sebastianangel
I think you have greatly improved the scenarios you designed, although I recommend you tweak Guile's stage a bit more, to improve the color distribution.
Lusofonia
sebastianangel told me that he would like to try to tweak the character sprites a bit, but personally I think the most sensible thing to do is to finish deciding this when the rest of the work is done.
Fox Cunning
Thanks a lot! The fun thing is, this game still has potential for improvement :beer:
Doomkid
It makes me very happy that you pass by, I really liked your work, personally I would have liked to have a similar artistic direction for the scenarios, respecting the original designs and optimizing them to create a feeling similar to Konami games...
UltraEpicLeader100
If I'm not mistaken, nobody said that this project intends to carry out a port of Champion Edition, on the other hand, I consider that when porting the content of a game to a lower platform, first, it is necessary to take into account the characteristics of the system in question, to exploit its resources to the maximum.
That is why I did not focus on the original portraits, since they have been created with a very simple coloring technique, which works well with a wide color palette, but loses a lot of quality when recreated with a lower palette, especially in their clothing or for characters that need more contrasting colors like Vega or Chun-Li...
Also, in general, it would be nice if everyone appreciated that we chose to take these portraits, despite their greater complexity and therefore greater difficulty in adapting them :-\
shakunetsu
I think aesthetics is just as important as gameplay, a good game always has both, although I agree that in this case it is not something decisive for the project :thumbsup:
Satoshi_Matrix
I do not understand what you are talking about, we have not touched the characters and the portraits are separated from each other, on the other hand, although they do use sprites, the way they load their graphics breaks the limitation of 64 sprites.
For example, a single portrait of Blanka currently requires 48 sprites, so when viewing two portraits the game would load 96 sprites.
This is achieved by loading the graphics in groups of 2 sprites, so for the processor it is only loading half the sprites, something incredible coming from a game developed by pirates :D
Sicsthey are the same portraits of the sega master system and game boy version, and therefore they can be considered as the portraits that Capcom would have chosen for a port on the NES.
shakunetsu
I think aesthetics is just as important as gameplay, a good game always has both, although I agree that in this case it is not something decisive for the project :thumbsup:
Hello, I want to share with you a new update of my portraits, I know that it will take some time, but I had enough problems adapting to Bison and Chun-Li...SicsGreat job done, I really like the final result for me is perfect! :thumbsup: I also agree that the proposed improvements are really very good but we need more specialized technical help in those programming areas to be able to carry them forward, :-\ for the moment I will focus on improving the stages of guille and dalshim while looking for help to incorporate the great music of Amilgui :beer:
Bison, because he seems like a completely different person when he's defeated and Chun-Li because of the meager amount of colors I have to work with :laugh:
The giant size of Sagat's hand still worries me, but it is part of the original design, so it would be a mistake to make modifications, although I have noticed that in the Arcade version that hand is not present in his defeat portrait, perhaps that explains why seems out of place ...
Anyway, in general lines I think the result has been satisfactory, it would only remain to finish the portrait of Vega, to begin the tests to add them to the game, wish me luck :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/deexd18-484aa5f7-b4b4-4bda-a9d7-9b09fb552f55.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWV4ZDE4LTQ4NGFhNWY3LWI0YjQtNGJkYS1hOWQ3LTliMDlmYjU1MmY1NS5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.UToM0_51t62xkybguNGRxh8mlOrfexP6mjNzk9suFzE)
Amilgi
I really liked how your compositions evolved, the only observation that I could share is that in Ryu's melody, the tonality chosen for pulse channel 1 was somewhat strange, it reminds me of the sound that is played when pausing Double Dragon II's game NES.
sebastianangel
I think you have greatly improved the scenarios you designed, although I recommend you tweak Guile's stage a bit more, to improve the color distribution.
Lusofonia
sebastianangel told me that he would like to try to tweak the character sprites a bit, but personally I think the most sensible thing to do is to finish deciding this when the rest of the work is done.
Fox Cunning
Thanks a lot! The fun thing is, this game still has potential for improvement :beer:
Doomkid
It makes me very happy that you pass by, I really liked your work, personally I would have liked to have a similar artistic direction for the scenarios, respecting the original designs and optimizing them to create a feeling similar to Konami games...
UltraEpicLeader100
If I'm not mistaken, nobody said that this project intends to carry out a port of Champion Edition, on the other hand, I consider that when porting the content of a game to a lower platform, first, it is necessary to take into account the characteristics of the system in question, to exploit its resources to the maximum.
That is why I did not focus on the original portraits, since they have been created with a very simple coloring technique, which works well with a wide color palette, but loses a lot of quality when recreated with a lower palette, especially in their clothing or for characters that need more contrasting colors like Vega or Chun-Li...
Also, in general, it would be nice if everyone appreciated that we chose to take these portraits, despite their greater complexity and therefore greater difficulty in adapting them :-\
shakunetsu
I think aesthetics is just as important as gameplay, a good game always has both, although I agree that in this case it is not something decisive for the project :thumbsup:
Satoshi_Matrix
I do not understand what you are talking about, we have not touched the characters and the portraits are separated from each other, on the other hand, although they do use sprites, the way they load their graphics breaks the limitation of 64 sprites.
For example, a single portrait of Blanka currently requires 48 sprites, so when viewing two portraits the game would load 96 sprites.
This is achieved by loading the graphics in groups of 2 sprites, so for the processor it is only loading half the sprites, something incredible coming from a game developed by pirates :D
SicsGreat job done, I really like the final result for me is perfect! :thumbsup: I also agree that the proposed improvements are really very good but we need more specialized technical help in those programming areas to be able to carry them forward, :-\ for the moment I will focus on improving the stages of guille and dalshim while looking for help to incorporate the great music of Amilgui :beer:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a9CwIAU-BbY/YD6cau-y1AI/AAAAAAAABq0/VGOhPnOB8D4pYzAGyhw0-Gf7MDV7_guewCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3%2BGuille%2Bstage_4b.png)
I made some changes and retouching of graphic details, the color is still a problem at this stage :-\
Amazing project! If I would suggest something, it would be to fix the command to do a Shoryuken (It's weird and different from the real Street Fighter 2), and make Ken hair different from Ryu. Oh, and get rid of the Chun-Li stage of this version, it's ugly and very generic.
Guys, who is coming recently in this topic is good to read the previous pages, some requests and suggestions have already been passed on and answered.
I apologize, but I literally re-read all messages so far and found no one saying about the orange sky in Guile's stage, unless I've misunderstood your message.
Thanks a lot! very good lyrics :thumbsup:, here still in an initial stage of guille's stage
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ImrvbkwdITQ/X_ub7mtD96I/AAAAAAAABTY/t2LxFruZjqMqfppWMk-SS1KzK36tN4GCACLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3seba%2Bcaras%2Bseleccion%2Bstage14%2Bblanka9%2Bguille_000.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eHQG4rWq4xk/X_y_yt5pJ6I/AAAAAAAABTw/fEMcE6_vo_oJtC1MHHZFHc_SQHhS9MIOQCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3guille%2Bfinal%2Bstage2_001.png)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sVUSpurtlps/YAGtidY3Q-I/AAAAAAAABU0/PFxhHnivBeQtyd3RVktlw7CMncdxuZuzACLcBGAsYHQ/s256/mano.png)new :thumbsup:
I have a suggestion: Have you tried to analyze the Fighting Hero III rom? The characters in this game have the voices in the spells, perhaps analyzing this rom has the possibility to put the voices in SF2 that you are producing.So many requests...a little greed.
If in the future you are interested in joining again to improve other NES fighting games in the future, I have some suggestions that you may like:
Wu Shi Hun (Samurai Shodown)
Put the characters to come on their stages.
Remove the repetition of the CPU characters against the player.
Put selectable Amakuza to play
correct the commands of the characters to cast the spells.
Correct the size of some characters.
Correct character colors.
Put the original arcade songs converted to 8bits
Shin Samurai Spirits 2 - Haoumaru Jigoku Hen
Put the characters to come on their stages.
Remove the repetition of the CPU characters against the player.
Put Mizuki as the last boss.
Correct some colors of the characters.
Correct the size of some characters.
correct the commands of some characters to cast the spells.
Put the original arcade songs converted to 8bits
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3_music_hack15_92_final_M
Put selectable Shao Kahn and Motaro to play.
Yuu Yuu Hakusho Final - Makai Saikyou Retsuden (English version)
Put the characters to come on their stages.
Put Kuwabara selectable in the American version to play in all game modes mainly in story mode.
Correct colors for some characters (This character only has to play in the Chinese version of the game).
correct the commands of some characters to cast the spells.
Put the Yu Yu Hakusho theme songs in 8bits
Street Fighter Zero 2'97
Put the characters to come on their stages.
Remove the repetition of the CPU characters against the player.
Put Akuma as the last boss.
Correct the size of some characters and scenarios.
correct the commands of some characters to cast the spells.
Put the original arcade songs converted to 8bits
King_of_Fighters_96
Put the characters to come on their stages.
Remove the repetition of the CPU characters against the player.
Put Chizuru and Goenitz as the last boss.
Correct the size of some characters.
correct the commands of some characters to cast the spells.
New team suggestion: Add Fatal Fury Special (NES) characters like Terry, Joe, Andy, Mai, Kim, Ryo Sakazaki to complete the teams.
Add KYO DO KOF'97 NES (KOF95) to make the Sacred Treasures team as the official team in the game (Kyo/Chizuru/Iori).
Add Ralf and Clark DO KOF'97 NES (KOF95) to make the Ikari Warriors team with Leona.
Add Robert DO KOF'97 NES (KOF95) to make the Art of Fighting team with Yuri and Ryo (Fatal Fury special NES)
REMOVE THE TEAM FROM THE Boss team at the opening of the game since there are no such characters or create their sprites to place next to the Krauser of Fatal Fury Special NES
Put the original arcade songs converted to 8bits
King_of_Fighters_97 (KOF’95 NES)
Put the characters to come on their stages.
Remove the repetition of the CPU characters against the player.
Put selectable Rugal to play
Correct colors for some characters.
correct the commands of some characters to cast the spells.
Put the Arcade theme songs in 8bits
Suggestion for new teams:
Add Yuri, King and Iori from KOF'96 NES and characters from Fatal Fury Special NES to make the team that are incomplete in the game like Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting and Women Fighters.
REMOVE some characters shown at the opening of the game since there are no such characters or create their sprites to put other characters together.
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Original Creation Making a Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo taken from Master Fighter VI (YOKO-Y1).
Putting missing characters like Cammy, T. Hawk, Fei-Long (this one already exists from the game Dragon Fighter), Dee Jay and Akuma (Taken from Street Fighter Zero 2'97 or just putting your head on the SF2 Ryu Sprite).
Correct the commands of some characters to cast the spells.
Put the Arcade theme songs in 8bits
Thanks for your attention and sorry for anything.
I'm just an admirer of the beautiful work they are doing and dreaming about the future that could be for NES fighting games.
I was referring in general, but Sebastian had already done a test with warm colors in the sky.On the other hand, it is good to see more Brazilians here.
Abraços amigo :woot!:
Hey guys there is a huge need for technical knowledge if your asking for new characters and new moves. According to sics and sebastian angel in previous post. Thats was the most frequent request here.
Too bad, because the shouryuken wrong command input is... really bad. It's the signature move of the franchise and the authors of the game did it wrong, woah! It was my hope that this project could fix this.The repair instruction is simple, but the effect is not as expected. However, I am confident that I will have a satisfactory answer in the future
The repair instruction is simple, but the effect is not as expected. However, I am confident that I will have a satisfactory answer in the future话说你看过fighting hero 3 那个游戏没？半圈、升龙、蓄力、追加指令都弄出来了，不知能不能借鉴一下
话说你看过fighting hero 3 那个游戏没？半圈、升龙、蓄力、追加指令都弄出来了，不知能不能借鉴一下没研究呢，SF3也就是每天有空看看，也没关注别的啥的。有时来这里看看
Although it is true that a large part of the queries seem to be déjà vu, for my part it is unrealistic to pretend that people are informed of everything that was happening in a post that is currently on page 22.
But in the same way, it seems somewhat unwise or at least inconsiderate to make such an extensive list of requests, taking into account that we are practically only a team of 2, each with external responsibilities to this project.
Likewise, I will try to answer your queries within the humanly possible...
7. Will they fix the technique commands for the characters?
In the past I had already said that I was not interested in collaborating on that aspect, but later they found a hack that implemented a series of variations in the controls of this game, so I secretly planned to adapt it to the needs of this project to incorporate these changes, although as I explained, this is no longer a hack, so this plan is no longer valid.
The only good news about it, besides the song6502 comment of course, is that modifying the controls of a game is not as difficult as many think, but without really knowing what it means to do it through the source code, I am not convinced that I want to commit to doing it.
More if I take into account that I do not know how the controls of a good fighting game should really be...
Thank you very much for the answer, sics. Another thing that I don't know if could be fixed are Ryu/Ken's red hadoukens, but honestly I like the red hadoukens because it makes themm look fiery, and in later SF games Ryu has fire hadoukens.
For a guy that is an avid fan of SF and continously updated on everything regarding SF.
the fire hadouken is called as SHAKUNETSU HADOUKEN.
which is my username also. Because I used to consistently throw Shakunetsu Hadouken everytime.
The thing is that Shakunetsu Hadouken is long gone for Ryu.
There Fire Hadouken is now with Ken. In the later SF games.
And Ryu now has electric Hadouken.
SF5 and SF4 has no Shakunetsu hadouken anymore
So plain hadouken non-fire is already okay. No need to change them.
I think I remember that he wondered the possibility of being able to change the color of the Hadōken to its pale blue white but it was not possible. :-\
something like ken's blonde hair / head problem, without being ryu's copy
Lusofonia
if that's ... from the original art, very much they look like with the 8-bit NES style manual instructions
Regarding Ryu, the color of the Hadōken is in this way due to the limitations of the system, since of the four palettes available for sprites, each player must use two of these for himself, that is why this technique uses the color of the skin of this player.
Regarding the reprogramming of the game, the people most committed to the project do not have the necessary level of knowledge to carry out this task.
Understanding that the rest work independently, I suppose that although it is good to contribute ideas, the most realistic thing is to assume that if we do not find new members willing to test their skills in this area, those ideas will not be able to be implemented ;)
shakunetsu
Maybe it will be useful in the future, although at this moment it's not in my plans, anyway, they are very interesting concepts, specially for those of us who dream about developing videogames, thank you very much for the information :thumbsup:
SF never had official release on nes. Most of that official art are from snes, genesis and japanese mags
I know, I was referring to the official SF manual from the console versions. I didn't know those pics were actually from magazines, mainly because I couldn't find the real SFII manual on the web. Never mind that.Normally M.Bison was the name of the boxer known as Balrog. It was a pun on M.Tyson, Mike Tyson. Fearing of lawsuit reasons they changed it.
@sics: shouldn't there be an M. before Bison? Like, M.Bison? Then again I have no idea what the M. in his name is supposed to be. In the country I live some fans assume the letter as "Major" like "Major Bison" but it's not canon so I'm not sure what to do about it.
Fray
Thank you very much, it makes me very happy to know that there are so many people who liked the new designs (https://orig00.deviantart.net/b937/f/2019/087/7/0/bounce_by_terwilf-dd38dpn.gif)
shakunetsu
Maybe it will be useful in the future, although at this moment it's not in my plans, anyway, they are very interesting concepts, specially for those of us who dream about developing videogames, thank you very much for the information :thumbsup:
cartridge_rom
For the moment I only have in my plans what I mentioned, on the other hand, it is important to clarify that the images are only for illustrative purposes, surely when I implement the changes in the game many things will change, either for better or for worse.
Lusofonia
As cartridge_rom commented, they had already consulted for the same thing on several occasions.
In short, the Hadōken, or any projectile, shares one of the palettes assigned to the fighter to whom the technique belongs.
For that reason, in Yuu Yuu Hakusho Final, he needs to resort to flickering sprites to show a different color technique to the character.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degens1-ec89f65e-852b-415d-af2f-5916bc209b6d.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnMxLWVjODlmNjVlLTg1MmItNDE1ZC1hZjJmLTU5MTZiYzIwOWI2ZC5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.tGFjMMCTYv8MmDB-SumkBPd8lA07t0Ly0zV58LMQ9Vo)
In the Ryu/Ken case, if the other palette were used, the color of the Hadōken would depend on the color of their clothing.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degens4-4be31e18-4347-47a8-9db0-5d10516454ee.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnM0LTRiZTMxZTE4LTQzNDctNDdhOC05ZGIwLTVkMTA1MTY0NTRlZS5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ._JsMCCYfsBpxp37vXSfaN48CwJhhRh8Lydo3tcsFaDY)
Even if this is not the case, the technique must not only look good, but it must also be clearly distinguishable at all times.
The limitation of 8 sprites per scanline, makes that in a normal game, most of the graphics are no longer displayed, so if you do not use a color that is imposed on the others often the projectiles would be hidden in the background of the stage.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degens8-3c721b85-9be1-4862-9419-551f2285cc24.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnM4LTNjNzIxYjg1LTliZTEtNDg2Mi05NDE5LTU1MWYyMjg1Y2MyNC5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.AGUjNiPWli1ZWul7ZmNqrFhSLNj_F5R25TPBVdpYrzk)
Consequently, every change must be thought with the system in which it will be implemented in mind, otherwise the results may not be the expected ones...
Changing the subject, in the current context it is not possible to add dialogues in the screen that appears after each fight, because as it has been mentioned so many times nowadays we don't have someone who specializes in programming.
Speaking of project news, I finally finished moving all the changes from the original hack to the source code, corrected the fighter names and implemented the new portraits(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dd3k2jx-034cb7db-edac-47ca-9c4e-ccd5329f648b.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzNhMmVlNWYyLTEwODgtNDg3YS1iM2MxLTBhYjdkYzMwNzU4N1wvZGQzazJqeC0wMzRjYjdkYi1lZGFjLTQ3Y2EtOWM0ZS1jY2Q1MzI5ZjY0OGIuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.fcISHL-YbxhxILOpZzuGjaH8lm7HmIsTFoTAsJeV11M)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degensj-07bf9ccb-e9b8-4e4d-97bf-2c9c8ae36139.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnNqLTA3YmY5Y2NiLWU5YjgtNGU0ZC05N2JmLTJjOWM4YWUzNjEzOS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.tYD-WC9YOaKpptWzxzryT2De9KATRhlLaKhG07QR2aA)(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degensd-4c0a4fbe-9ff1-4aa9-a276-7fbc57540f26.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnNkLTRjMGE0ZmJlLTlmZjEtNGFhOS1hMjc2LTdmYmM1NzU0MGYyNi5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.l6_pa3gijAUhTt_oM7JGDF0b_rhGftjTxTwWVs0QKwg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degensh-921326c2-9cce-4c5d-8be9-dd9dfbb15a2d.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnNoLTkyMTMyNmMyLTljY2UtNGM1ZC04YmU5LWRkOWRmYmIxNWEyZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.bHZkiv3eX7RLrnO1INBIcAEXYsnttxQfGkjuhkZtGLs)(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degensg-97152052-947e-42c3-a0e6-1a7a5033142e.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnNnLTk3MTUyMDUyLTk0N2UtNDJjMy1hMGU2LTFhN2E1MDMzMTQyZS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.qW4BMsa1biGaZX9eOzSzWoyeBW_YfeAgvI7d4nSOyzo)
The best thing, is that taking advantage of the extra space of the new rom and reorganized its graphics to allow them to be easily edited, unifying in the process the elements of the interface(https://orig00.deviantart.net/e512/f/2017/091/0/0/migi_yeah_by_terwilf-db4biaq.gif)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/degens2-62fea6fd-0502-4f0a-84d4-33d6dde13f4a.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWdlbnMyLTYyZmVhNmZkLTA1MDItNGYwYS04NGQ0LTMzZDZkZGUxM2Y0YS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.LVj1VC6yonjSZJ7PDDDrgZ9Qb9x2MPfhhA9tikZnuV0)
The only thing missing would be to finish defining the final set of colors for the VS portraits, especially when two players face each other with the same character.
That is why, in case anyone wants to contribute ideas, I'm sharing the CHR with the graphics (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810592517358878751/823304818844106782/SFII_-Retratos.7z).
Finally, once again to all those who support this project, I ask you to try to have a little consideration with those who participate in it, it is overwhelming to answer again and again the same questions.
As I said all ideas are welcome, but if you want us to spend time and effort in carrying out your requests, I think it is only fair to ask you to spend time and effort in doing some minimal research in the first place.
Right. The NES pallet is fixed. However, the exact values of each of its colors depend on what TV or emulator you're using.
See, the NES's PPU does not produce RGB video or even YUV video. Instead, the NES produces an encoded video signal like a tv channel signal that relies on the TV's internal video decoder to display. The result is a difference in pallet on every different TV make and model. Every emulator in kind is also different. What you posted is an NES pallet, but not "the" NES pallet because no such thing exists.
About Ken hair color, how the game works, it loads the same sprites for ryu and ken, and the kimono color changes through code, or even similar, it has both white (Ryu) and red (Ken) sprites separate in the sprite sheet? The game has both kimono colors, why not both hair color, I wonder?因爲人物用了兩組調色板，在向精靈内存寫入tile時，在每個tile的Y坐標代碼中，携帶了調色板的選擇定義。
If it's due to pallete limitation, maybe Ken hair could share some of his skin colors, the skin color resembles more a blonde hair than brown. I noticed most part of their hair is black with just a little portion brown, maybe do a little redraw to make the brown area bigger would help visualization too.
Anyways, I understand how time consuming this type of project can bee, I myself created one time a mod for GTA IV and god, was like a month (when I was unemployed) with my face glued to the monitor, researching how to do specific stuff, bug testing, etc... really stressing, though very rewarding when it's finished. With that in mind, even if you guys just update roster images and stage backgrounds, it is already more than enough to make the community very happy.
Because the character uses two sets of palettes, when writing tiles to the sprite memory, the Y coordinate code of each tile carries the selection definition of the palette.
因爲人物用了兩組調色板，在向精靈内存寫入tile時，在每個tile的Y坐標代碼中，携帶了調色板的選擇定義。我觉得这是迟早要解决的问题，其实街机隆和肯的出招有微妙的差异，fc做成了一样的
用ryu和ken進入比賽開始測試：當你通過修改頭髮tile（原調色板是衣服的顔色）代碼，將頭發tile爲另一個調色板（皮膚顔色）調色板時，兩人的頭發同時變成了紅色（皮膚邊緣顔色），當再你修改tile圖案的調色板，使ken的頭髮顔色變成黃色（皮膚顔色最淺部分)時，ryu的頭髮顔色也變成了黃色。
向chr内添加ken的頭髮相當於重新製作，不可行，因爲那樣的話，所有的動作幀代碼都需要改動，而且中間還需要添加辨別程序（寫入精靈顔色時就是這麽做的）。
因爲人物用了兩組調色板，在向精靈内存寫入tile時，在每個tile的Y坐標代碼中，携帶了調色板的選擇定義。从vas的经验看，添加新动作是个可执行但有点费劲的事
用ryu和ken進入比賽開始測試：當你通過修改頭髮tile（原調色板是衣服的顔色）代碼，將頭發tile爲另一個調色板（皮膚顔色）調色板時，兩人的頭發同時變成了紅色（皮膚邊緣顔色），當再你修改tile圖案的調色板，使ken的頭髮顔色變成黃色（皮膚顔色最淺部分)時，ryu的頭髮顔色也變成了黃色。
向chr内添加ken的頭髮相當於重新製作，不可行，因爲那樣的話，所有的動作幀代碼都需要改動，而且中間還需要添加辨別程序（寫入精靈顔色時就是這麽做的）。
alien nose job
Thank you very much for your words :thumbsup:
yolomate
I was referring to the color distribution in the character portraits, because even though doing something like what you propose could be visually beneficial for this hack, it's unlikely that someone would be willing to modify the configuration of their emulator just to play a game.
CHR, stands for "Character ROM". and basically is the sector where the graphics of this kind of old games are stored, in the case of the portraits I mentioned, you can only apply 3 unique colors, which are accompanied by the black background color...
In short, all the portraits have two variants, the normal one and the one shown when he is confronted with himself:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dehm1vh-193ad65c-c4e7-421b-9988-10aec46e566a.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWhtMXZoLTE5M2FkNjVjLWM0ZTctNDIxYi05OTg4LTEwYWVjNDZlNTY2YS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.jr7BMJ6_zphWm2RELlJVfUdv1hEz5bev0_AMMeX0FKw)
Lusofonia & shakunetsu
Speaking from a conceptual point of view, it is more optimal to adapt the stages without spectators and then evaluate case by case if it is feasible to add public...
Hitokiri & IDreamOfGameGenie
We have already expressed several times our situation regarding the editing of characters, although its structure is very simple, the volume of data is too much to manage by manual means.
On the other hand, having fulfilled all the commitments I had made, I think it is time to end my collaboration with this project.
I think it's important to clarify that it's not because of any kind of problem that has arisen, I simply want to continue with my own projects.
Anyway, I can't think where else I could collaborate, at least, not without inferring on the work sebastianangel does, I personally want to see him progress and we all know that comparisons are odious...
protossevo & BZXGCS
To form a frame (metasprite) each sprite is loaded independently, defining its position and which of the two available palettes it will use:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dehm1dw-65323933-8fe3-4a4d-84e1-5679505a0606.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWhtMWR3LTY1MzIzOTMzLThmZTMtNGE0ZC04NGUxLTU2Nzk1MDVhMDYwNi5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.r_zYlrCH3j9lpZEM17xgj1xXXdc8v6qeNplBX_GaelU)
On the other hand, effectively, Ken is a clone of Ryu with another set of assigned palettes, in conclusion, it is not a problem without solution, but currently all the alternatives that exist to solve it are quite tedious to perform.
sebastianangel Your Chun Li scenery is fabulous!!! It has the right atmosphere. But what is missing in my opinion is a bit of manual retouching. For example, the table on the left has a palette in common with the building, so I would shorten it a bit to avoid this problem. As for the details, you could manually fix the chicken in the cage, the street light, the writing on the signs and the road that leads to the back. The same goes for the buildings in the distance which, having no detail, I guess due to a lack of tiles, would perhaps be more pleasant if they had a pattern.
I made a rough mock up to show what I mean :
(https://i.ibb.co/sFv7jdZ/sf3-chun-lee-final-3.png) (https://imgbb.com/)(https://i.ibb.co/xYt4sJ4/sf3-chun-MK.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
sics Your portraits are very very cool!!!! Like Vega, is really perfect! :thumbsup:
On the other hand, effectively, Ken is a clone of Ryu with another set of assigned palettes, in conclusion, it is not a problem without solution, but currently all the alternatives that exist to solve it are quite tedious to perform.Or maybe you just give up and leave Ken's hair color as-is, and write in the readme the reason of this change.
Fray
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5RrpXL0I_fM/YHmsVLmVgUI/AAAAAAAABvo/Mztth2CnPDE4tDikMBbu1I2v1BU-cDYBACLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3%2Bchun%2Blee%2Bfinal%2B8_1.png)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lmhpAWUgXQk/YHmsRcDKdWI/AAAAAAAABvk/jv9nY28YYW8-CcuxAWBwtdbTgOn3JhAIQCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%2521sf3%2Bchun%2Blee%2Bfinal%2B8.2.png)
take note of your good advice :beer:
Hey Sebastian! Would you consider changing a few pixels and fixing Ryu's huge nose? That thing is killing me :laugh:
(https://images2.imgbox.com/74/ce/ACm4sXLV_o.png)
I will try to be able to do something to reduce it since I think it must be difficult being these metasprites many layers and animations.WOW! I took a look at the sprites in YY-CHR and can see what you mean about it being difficult. :o I think from now on I'll keep my lip zipped :-X and let the PROs get back to work. You guys are doing an awesome job, can't wait to see this finished. :thumbsup:
I think it would be really cool if someone was able to make a sprite editor for this game, or at the very least, some kind of configuration file or method for an existing sprite editor so that the new sprites are easier to change (and easier to distinguish where certain sprites go for each character).
over 10 pages
Oh, sorry. I remember seeing that programming stuff and skipping it mostly because I could not understand a word of it. But wouldn't it be more user-friendly to post the disasm of the game once it's done over here on RH.net? I don't think anyone willing to do their own hacks for this would have patience to look in over 10 pages for code, at least I wouldn't. This is just a suggestion, okay?Hello, I will tell you that I am already in the final stage, I just need to finish introducing these endings of each character and accommodate said color attributes. Then I depend on the good will of someone to help introduce the new musical creations of Amilgi. I'll launch the game around here when I get these things ready
There is a big difference between giving up in the face of some impossibility and not being interested in doing a task, as I mentioned, I think it's time to mind my own business :thumbsup:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dehzx1d-8cbb411a-20c9-462d-a74f-3e6d2f7a5be3.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvM2EyZWU1ZjItMTA4OC00ODdhLWIzYzEtMGFiN2RjMzA3NTg3XC9kZWh6eDFkLThjYmI0MTFhLTIwYzktNDYyZC1hNzRmLTNlNmQyZjdhNWJlMy5naWYifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.PjGUYWsTo4K3E24ng44WNb6XcKrC2LWG_xMKYgjeM1U)
CryinOnion: thank you very much for the contribution friend sounds great, you can take a look at the latest update of Amilgi also sounds amazing! :thumbsup:Can't wait for it! :woot!:
Flaviogames: It was a great idea of Amilgi to put voices but it is discarded for the moment because we need an encoder to introduce those sounds to the rom, with respect to the simplified movements I tell you they were already abandoned because they were lost when decompiling the game.
I'm glad you like this project, I hope to finish it soon to share it with everyone greetings. :beer:
the sprites that really need to be changed are the 3 sprites from animation of the characters stopped and that today I made Ryu and also their animations in advance, the other animations just need some details, I imagine I can do them all in less than 1 month
Flavio linked a video in my thread that I might as well share here (...)
The problem is not how the sprites look in-game, the real thing here is that you can't reinsert sprites once they've been done because of how crazily arranged the fighter gfx are in the CHR. Get it? The guys behind this project, me not included, aren't trying to disencourage you from contributing, it's actually the opposite; at the stage the project currently is there's not much room for improvement. And with the few room left there's not much they can do since the current solutions for the problems aren't user-friendly to implement.
Ryu's eye sclera (the white part), will be colored with the colors of his clothing, and he will be the only character that can include such a detail.(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/deizoc4-a725d33e-4468-417f-8faf-0e582ffa2f82.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzNhMmVlNWYyLTEwODgtNDg3YS1iM2MxLTBhYjdkYzMwNzU4N1wvZGVpem9jNC1hNzI1ZDMzZS00NDY4LTQxN2YtOGZhZi0wZTU4MmZmYTJmODIucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.Oawo_tkxgGIAYxxc8Fcw25zyiuJ7TnQovt9ofrvpNRg)
I think you can notice a lot of difference in this last update, especially with headphones, I also found the adaptation of the theme of Zangief amazing, which by the way is my favorite character, congratulations! :beer:
On the other hand, I think the theme of Ryu and Dhalsim would benefit if I tweaked the Triangle channel a bit, I feel it's too strident, although this is a subjective opinion?
To conclude, although I don't think it's bad, the theme of Stage End. I get the feeling that your melody differs a bit from the original.
Lusofinia, I disagree, no criticism is free of subjectivity, so it is not possible to ensure that what one says, even if it is with good intentions, is accurate, valid or useful.
I just saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A7Se1w-nRw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A7Se1w-nRw) on youtube. Does it anything have to do with this project?
It has great sprite collision detection and moves so smooth. I hope this is real.
Whatever that thing is, it certainly is someone else's project. I'd rather stick to sebastian's.
Yeah, me too. But wouldn't it be great if both projects became a great big one? It also has a parallax scrolling floor, which I thought to be impossible on a NES.
NES can't do parallax; that thing there is a pseudo-parallax scroll made using the NES' resources intelligently, it isn't a real scroll.Yeah. Well, I guess this guy is doing commercial stuff anyway. I don't think he'll collaborate in a free project like this.
Yeah. Well, I guess this guy is doing commercial stuff anyway. I don't think he'll collaborate in a free project like this.I think it will not be easy to merge projects. He's rebuilding SFII from scratch, they're taking an already existing SFII bootleg and altering it. The problem isn't even if that person will work or not, the problem is the technical difficulties of such thing.
I think it will not be easy to merge projects. He's rebuilding SFII from scratch, they're taking an already existing SFII bootleg and altering it. The problem isn't even if that person will work or not, the problem is the technical difficulties of such thing.That project indicates a fact: The way to add new character by batch really exists.
I think it will not be easy to merge projects. He's rebuilding SFII from scratch, they're taking an already existing SFII bootleg and altering it. The problem isn't even if that person will work or not, the problem is the technical difficulties of such thing.And moving character from one nes sf2 game to another is possible.
Ooh good catch on the stage end, put down a G instead of a G# by mistakeAmilgi your new update improves on the previous one, it acquires more strength and manages to transmit that musical magic of street figther 2 that makes me feel really lucky and grateful to have you collaborating in this project thank you very much for your work and dedication for me it is an epic soundtrack.
Your bassline comment made me reconsider the octaves I was using for the basslines - since I can't tweak the volume or timbre of the triangle, it becomes a tough decision sometimes whether to have the bass be a bit high or a bit low.
I ended up moving the stage end bassline + Ryu's, Blanka's, and Dhalsim's basslines all down an octave. They're all still bright enough I can make them out well on my bookshelf speakers and not just my headphones.
I also raised Vega's bassline back up an octave - makes a section later in the track a bit bright but the droning F# at the start feels too low. Bison's would have the same issue if I dropped it. These two are tough to balance since the basslines spans such a wide range of tones. Admittedly the originals are pretty low at the start too but agh idk :banghead:
Also added an echo to the title track.
As always, feedback is appreciated.
Updated soundtrack .nsf & .0cc: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
Both are offering different aesthetics and gameplay experience.The other project might have better gameplay, but overall I think this one is more pleasant to the eye. Some of the palette choices in the other one looked ugly.
So it doesn't matter. They are different games at there own.
Ooh good catch on the stage end, put down a G instead of a G# by mistake
Your bassline comment made me reconsider the octaves I was using for the basslines - since I can't tweak the volume or timbre of the triangle, it becomes a tough decision sometimes whether to have the bass be a bit high or a bit low.
I ended up moving the stage end bassline + Ryu's, Blanka's, and Dhalsim's basslines all down an octave. They're all still bright enough I can make them out well on my bookshelf speakers and not just my headphones.
I also raised Vega's bassline back up an octave - makes a section later in the track a bit bright but the droning F# at the start feels too low. Bison's would have the same issue if I dropped it. These two are tough to balance since the basslines spans such a wide range of tones. Admittedly the originals are pretty low at the start too but agh idk :banghead:
Also added an echo to the title track.
As always, feedback is appreciated.
Updated soundtrack .nsf & .0cc: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
Yet its too early to decide on the gameplay. Its still likely both would would have diferent experience hoping that both will be great
Lusofonia: What are the characteristics of this CE SFI? Where can I see the project?
Lusophony: I was never able to execute a shoryuken on SF2 from NES, I don't know if it is because it doesn't have or is really difficult to do due to the gameplay
it would be good to add the haggar's agarãoWhat is an agarão?
Another soundtrack update:ooh it's great these new settings enhance these magnificent compositions, :thumbsup: thank you so much for your hard work and dedication Amilgi, :beer: I hope soon I can get someone who can introduce them to the game! :crazy:
- Forgot about Balrog when I made the other bonus themes! Now all the original World Warrior character themes are included, even if they might not get used in the hack
- Expanded E Honda's intro
- Gave it some thought and tried moving basslines back to the "high" octave to keep them in a consistent range across the soundtrack
- To help compensate for the above change, I remembered I can use the DPCM offset to make the triangle (and noise) a bit quieter since we aren't using any samples right now. So on tracks where the bass gets a bit high/bright I use the offset to mute the bass a bit. The downside is that the overall theme becomes a bit quieter, but it's not huge - Dhalsim's is probably the quietest
- Various minor tweaks and fixes
.0cc and .nsf here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11dF3pR--vm35JpW2By_TNMsXA8_Z_j-R?usp=sharing
As always, feedback is appreciated
Fantastic work with the soundtrack update thanks Amilgi, it's a very important part. :beer:In a few days I will be able to release a beta without the music at the moment since I did not get someone who knows how to introduce the great Amilgi soundtrack, :-\ maybe this will motivate someone to help us greetings :huh:
I hope that in the future to hear his work on other hack for Nintendo "NES" of Final Fight 3, Super Mario World and other pirate games of the hummer team :D
Regards.
In a few days I will be able to release a beta without the music at the moment since I did not get someone who knows how to introduce the great Amilgi soundtrack, :-\ maybe this will motivate someone to help us greetings :huh:
Lusofonia/Viewer: I misspell "agarão", the correct one would be "agarrão" but I tried to correct it and I couldn't because there is no translation for "agarrão" PTBR in English, but even so I edited the original text so that I can understand what I meant ;D
"Agarro", "agarração" or "agarramento" works just fine in Portuguese.
I'm sorry but these terms are rarely used here in Brazil
the right one is 'agarrão', but there are also synonyms that can be 'segurar' (to hold) or 'prender' (to secure), so here you can have an idea. 'Agarrão' is just an augmentation for 'grab' (agarro), that is, a strong grab. (Stronger grab?)
Rarity doesn't have any bearing on whether a word is legitimate or not. Regardless, I did point out that they were in Portuguese, which is the basis for Brazilian, even if obviously there are differences.
No need to explain their meanings, I know portuguese. :thumbsup:
But these terms are strange for us in a fighting game and I also wanted to clarify for other people who don't know Portuguese.What about "arremesso" (toss, throw, pitch)? That one is sometimes used in the martial arts context.
What about "arremesso" (toss, throw, pitch)? That one is sometimes used in the martial arts context.
Thow.
'Arremessar o adversário.' = Throwing the opponent.
Toss = 'jogar/lançar', ex: 'jogar/lançar uma moeda no poço' = toss/flips a coin in the pit.
"Tossing" the opponent would sound weird, albeit not entirely wrong. I think at least any words that contain the root agarr- in portuguese convey better the idea of the move: agarrar, agarrão, agarro, agarramento... The other words don't sound as natural, so I think that's why flaviogames used initially the word agarrão (even if misspelled, but that can be forgiven).
Thank you very much!Thanks to you and to all those who follow the project and to those who actively collaborated as well, for your patience ... I hope to bring good news in these days of work polishing details! Greetings and I'll be back 8)
Thanks to you and to all those who follow the project and to those who actively collaborated as well, for your patience ... I hope to bring good news in these days of work polishing details! Greetings and I'll be back 8)I wish you good luck in this and your other projects dude, I'm sure if you believe it they'll come true ;)
Fox Cunning: great job, will there be voices in this game? :thumbsup:Hey!
Fox CunningSics Thank you so much friend !!! :beer: Fantastic job it is great to have your talent here again since it is a project that we started together and now we can culminate together with your talent :crazy:
Really, after watching the demo that sebastianangel sent me, my skin crawled, I'm so excited, I had listened the soundtrack many times already, but to feel the whole experience was superb, it feels really great, congratulations and welcome!!!! (https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dd3k2jx-034cb7db-edac-47ca-9c4e-ccd5329f648b.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzNhMmVlNWYyLTEwODgtNDg3YS1iM2MxLTBhYjdkYzMwNzU4N1wvZGQzazJqeC0wMzRjYjdkYi1lZGFjLTQ3Y2EtOWM0ZS1jY2Q1MzI5ZjY0OGIuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.fcISHL-YbxhxILOpZzuGjaH8lm7HmIsTFoTAsJeV11M)
By the way, I adjusted the title screen theorizer to be able to listen to the full opening theme, anyway I sent the file to Hacks roms, so he can send it to you! :thumbsup:
(I did it by changing the value of line 580, by 1A, in the file "bank_FF.asm")
sebastianangel
I'm glad you're still working to bring this great project forward, I love what you're doing, by the way, I was so happy about this great news that I started to design this ending for Ken, based on work you posted on Discord, I hope you like it! :beer:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/deokizh-185d18e8-6023-4d8e-a39f-433f864002b9.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzNhMmVlNWYyLTEwODgtNDg3YS1iM2MxLTBhYjdkYzMwNzU4N1wvZGVva2l6aC0xODVkMThlOC02MDIzLTRkOGUtYTM5Zi00MzNmODY0MDAyYjkucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.OeAQtAJXIhru9CeAQE8dPq-KI6aRRtSfED7ZM4yQxOM)
Note: The text has no relevance, it is only provisional (https://orig00.deviantart.net/6cc7/f/2019/086/3/4/shades_by_terwilf-dd34pw9.gif)
Fox Cunning
Really, after watching the demo that sebastianangel sent me, my skin crawled, I'm so excited, I had listened the soundtrack many times already, but to feel the whole experience was superb, it feels really great, congratulations and welcome!!!! (https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/dd3k2jx-034cb7db-edac-47ca-9c4e-ccd5329f648b.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzNhMmVlNWYyLTEwODgtNDg3YS1iM2MxLTBhYjdkYzMwNzU4N1wvZGQzazJqeC0wMzRjYjdkYi1lZGFjLTQ3Y2EtOWM0ZS1jY2Q1MzI5ZjY0OGIuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.fcISHL-YbxhxILOpZzuGjaH8lm7HmIsTFoTAsJeV11M)
By the way, I adjusted the timer on the title screen to be able to listen to the full opening theme, anyway I sent the file to Hacks roms, so he can send it to you! :thumbsup:
(I did it by changing the value of line 580, by 1A, in the file "bank_FF.asm")
sebastianangel
I'm glad you're still working to bring this great project forward, I love what you're doing, by the way, I was so happy about this great news that I started to design this ending for Ken, based on work you posted on (http://www.bwass.org/bucket/L2.png)Discord (https://discord.com/channels/194121299772178432/740395801104351372), I hope you like it! :beer:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/3a2ee5f2-1088-487a-b3c1-0ab7dc307587/deokizh-185d18e8-6023-4d8e-a39f-433f864002b9.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzNhMmVlNWYyLTEwODgtNDg3YS1iM2MxLTBhYjdkYzMwNzU4N1wvZGVva2l6aC0xODVkMThlOC02MDIzLTRkOGUtYTM5Zi00MzNmODY0MDAyYjkucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.OeAQtAJXIhru9CeAQE8dPq-KI6aRRtSfED7ZM4yQxOM)
Note: The text has no relevance, it is only provisional (https://orig00.deviantart.net/6cc7/f/2019/086/3/4/shades_by_terwilf-dd34pw9.gif)
Thank you very much friend :) FRAY for the support and your suggestions, also thank all the help received and the wonderful team of talented that make up this team from which I learn a little bit every day, below a video of how things are going and a sketch of improvement of stage sagat that I achieve with the help of Sics :beer:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1Ib3sNnmAmo/YQ_xS-FrOaI/AAAAAAAAB_k/Qej66z1Q8wcPn6eS7PCtt5DO0NBwDxamwCLcBGAsYHQ/s382/sagat%2Bfinal%2B4%2Bcoloresfinal%2Btotal77.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYgqdUlMwMo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYgqdUlMwMo)
sics: how cool, this new sound engine besides having better sound effects will also support voices?At the moment we are not using the delta modulation channel (it's not impossible, but there are various technical reasons and time constraints).
takvez his face?
song6502: very interesting, so would it be possible to improve the game's sprites?FlaviogamesWe are trying to improve all aspects of the game while Amilgi and Fox Cunning do their sound magic, but the need for help in asm to achieve those objectives like the ones you name is inevitable, for my part I discovered a way to do something with sprites but the method needs to be perfected
;Shift in 3 bytes of controller info
;Anything connected?
LDA Byte3
BEQ Nothing_connected
CMP #$FF
BNE Not_a_gamepad
;NES or SNES?
LDA Byte2
CMP #$FF
BEQ NES_gamepad
;Check SNES ID
AND #$F0 ;ignore any button presses from A,X,L,R
BEQ SNES_gamepad
;Unsupported device!
Not_a_gamepad:
It would be great if they could place the little intro of master fighter 2:Hello,Drax01 that is a very good idea, :thumbsup: I think it had been proposed a while ago ... but the lack of knowledge in asm left it in the pipeline ... but you never know ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6euvTxC9ooY
Hello,Drax01 that is a very good idea, :thumbsup: I think it had been proposed a while ago ... but the lack of knowledge in asm left it in the pipeline ... but you never know ...
4lorn thank you very much friend! :beer: We continue with this great game! The musical part It is very advanced and everything is settling down ... we have the collaboration of Song6502 and has just joine team Eriknoc :crazy:
(https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/44x3LwO7ac9iIQj8xq8kRzOtT7DM0F6nL2RoOySPBZs/https/1.bp.blogspot.com/-XZ-NTaIWzLk/YSFnOZ2QkLI/AAAAAAAACCY/NQd-wzASAKMBhSywQKi3_4DwOwMNi1NkgCLcBGAsYHQ/s256/%252521sf3%252BCHUN%252BLI%252B3.png)
there is little left, but I think it will be worth the wait :happy: greetings :woot!:
Great job sebastian, you're on the right track, congratulations!!!! :beer:
any news about ken's hair ?
this project is becoming more and more spectacular
if you manage to edit sprites it will be spectacular and of course it would also be good to add the main voices, the scenarios were good, but Ryu's scenario seems to have been made for giant characters and not for Nes sprites, if you can correct it will be better
Why a tool is needed? To edit the layering?
Because even if its kind of extra work, that can be done with sprite editing programs, the only thing really needed would be a sprite sheet to work over.
If you can share a bit of info on how are you editing the characters and stages probably we can figure something out.
you can visit the link to listen to the new pulse sounds incorporated into the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBynOBIhQSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBynOBIhQSQ)
A preview of the tremendous work that Fox Cunning and Amilgi are doing! :crazy: