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Title: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 14, 2019, 01:58:26 pm
Hey Everybody!  Took a little break from Robocop and did some work on Double Dragon.

Changed the palette's of the Lee brothers to be more like the arcade.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/0b/0c/y4odpsOw_o.jpg)

Made the girlfriend a little more curvaceous and gave her longer hair.  The scene where the thugs kidnap her is now rated PG-13.  ;D   
(https://images2.imgbox.com/1d/15/JLyN5L5p_o.jpg)

Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: aml435 on December 14, 2019, 03:52:31 pm
Looks great.

Though the holy grail for this game would be to implement a simultaneous 2 player mode, like has been done for P.O.W., Duck Tales 2, & Super Mario Bros, since this game actually calls for it. I wish I had the savvy to figure it out, but it's beyond my skill set.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Googie on December 14, 2019, 06:52:56 pm
I dig this. :laugh:

I love seeing more Double Dragon love on this site, you did good, bro. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 15, 2019, 02:54:59 pm
Thanks aml435!  Yeah 2 player mode would be awesome. If I had the skills I'd do it.  Maybe we can see if one of the guys that hacked the games you mentioned would be willing to tackle Double Dragon?  ;)

Thanks Googie, I'm glad you like it. ;D I know it's not much of a hack but I just didn't feel like working on Robocop the other night so I whipped this up. 

It looks like Double Dragon was converted to MMC5 recently, hopefully someone, or maybe a team, will come along and do an amazing overhaul.       






Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: MathUser2929 on December 15, 2019, 03:49:06 pm
I made a palette hack already. I didn't fix Marian tho. Pretty good job on that.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 15, 2019, 05:27:43 pm
Ooops, didn't mean to step on anyone's toes MathUser2929. :-[  I look forward to playing through your hack to see what changes you've made.  ;D

Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 16, 2019, 08:01:38 pm
1) PG-13 films have women getting punched in the gut and hauled away like freight? Kids these days... :D (I'm kidding)

2) Final Fight's 30th Anniversary Edition features a new 3-player capability which the original arcade game did not support. Extending the number of players from 2 to 3, however, may be a lot easier than going from 1 to 2.

If I were going to undertake such a project (and I'm not), I'd almost think it'd be easier to do a graphics/music hack of Double Dragon 2 to make it appear to be Double Dragon 1. Introducing 2-player capability into such an early (and kinda janky) NES game which does not have it seems insane beyond imagining to me.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 08:44:03 pm
Hey Spooniest!  Well, there's at least 26 people out there that know what I mean with the PG 13 rating.  ;D  Thanks for trying my hack guys!  :beer:

Yeah man, that's crazy.  Haven't tried it yet but it looks like Grego and Rotwang did an amazing job.  :thumbsup:  Never thought I'd see a 3 player Final Fight.  Never thought I'd see a 2 player simultaneous Super Mario Bros either.  So many creative/talented people on this site.

I kinda like the idea of fixing the janky games though, hence Robocop.  These games should have been sooo much better.  I want to show everybody what could have been. ;D 

Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 08:50:44 pm
Just so I'm clear, it's that you removed her bare butt and panty shot from the animation of Williams carrying her away?

... I thought that's what you meant, but it's unclear from the screenshot.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 09:03:03 pm
Oh no no, the panty shot is still there.  Come on now, I wouldn't remove that.  You didn't notice the 8-bit nip slip?
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 09:04:15 pm
This was my very first NES game, recieved for Christmas of 1990.

No, not once.

(https://i.imgur.com/dSqlsnX.png)

... This?

Not only can't I see it, but i find it hard to believe that anyone would think that her lady parts are exposed at all.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 09:15:38 pm
Form the hack  :P
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 09:17:16 pm
Wait. Are you saying that you added this, and now it's PG-13?

The MPAA would like a word with you. That's a clear and full R rating.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 09:26:21 pm
That's what I'm sayin'  ;D
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 09:30:09 pm
Ok you're gonna have to catch me up. Was this a previous work of yours which you're now editing or is it someone else's work which you're making an addendum to?

When were the bewbs out? Are the bewbs out in the current version? Clarify, Ya ... Old ... Guy...

What gives? Showing bewbs is not PG-13, you get an R rating for that. You said it was PG-13.

Now, just for the sake of full disclosure, I think the entire idea of the rating system is horse shit, and I'm not against someone drawing teats if their heart is just set on drawing teats. But you're not properly conveying the analogous MPAA rating.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 09:35:07 pm
Unless I F'd up, It should be in the patch posted at the top of the page.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 09:36:47 pm
Then why did you say it was PG-13?

Have you ever seen a PG-13 rated movie?... Teats are a strict no-no in PG-13 rated movies.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 09:39:11 pm
I thought teats were PG 13.  Full frontal on the other hand...

Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 09:43:41 pm
You can show poop, say cuss words like 'bitch' 'piss,' 'ass' and 'shit,' (as long as it's not too often) and show slightly more violent or sexually themed material.

Go overboard, show a nipple or any other nudity, say fuck, cunt or tits, or get too gory, and it's R Rating Country.

Famously, the movie 'Clerks' was slapped with an R rating purely for discussions about sex acts. It doesn't have any nudity or violence in it, per se.

Really, the MPAA are full of shit. But they do have a few rules which are strictly enforced.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 09:49:47 pm
Police Academy 4... the pool scene  ;)  and the was PG
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 09:53:15 pm
 :huh:

I've never watched any of the Police Academy movies.

Edit: Ok, I saw it. The difference is that her nipples are covered by a shirt, and also that there isn't any outwardly stated sexuality to the scene, I would guess, but it seems extremely questionable that this was given a PG rating. I can only hypothesize that (much as it hurts my brain to admit), since these movies were quite popular, and there was money changing hands, there was bribery involved.

As I said, the MPAA are full of shit.

However, I'd posit a guess that their prudish asses would like as not go ahead and slap you with an R for that, as it not only involves both nudity in full view and violence, but implied sexual violence as well.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 10:04:48 pm
That pool scene is worth the watch...the rest of the movie not so much.  You can youtube it.  You're right, I hadn't considered the whole sexual assault aspect.  I just wanted people to think... WTF, did I just see that?

Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 10:08:58 pm
... Are you aware that there are literal years worth of actual hardcore pornography available for free on the internet?

"Worth the watch?" :( Why?

I think this is just a case of my sense of humor differing entirely from someone else's.

For me, a creepy fish man hermaphrodite declaring his undying love for a snooty British Jazz Snob and then implying that murder is the other option available to him, then proceeding into a funk musical dance number is 100x more funny than the fact that yeah, dudes like boobs.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 17, 2019, 10:14:03 pm
Come on Spoonie, Ya gotta admit, that's a great set of boobs! :laugh:
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 17, 2019, 10:14:55 pm
It is. Not funny, however.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: lexluthermiester on December 21, 2019, 12:36:17 am
Gonna have to agree with Spooniest, definitely R-rated and not appropriate for the site...
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: Spooniest on December 21, 2019, 12:57:41 am
Gonna have to agree with Spooniest, definitely R-rated and not appropriate for the site...

I didn't think this was against site rules, but lo and behold, RHDN Policy (http://www.romhacking.net/policy/#Hacks_Non-Permitted_Items) states:

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Forbidden Content: Although ROMhacking.net has no content restrictions of its own, our service provider forbids “sexually explicit, hateful, vulgar, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable materials”. Therefore these types of hacks are not permitted.

Now, the final decision is up to RHDN, but I feel like it is a violation of this rule, upon re-reading the rules. You might wanna cover up her boobage.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 21, 2019, 01:54:33 pm
Didn't mean to violate site rules.  :-[  Link to patch and in-game pic removed.
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: sics on December 21, 2019, 04:41:25 pm
Don't be discouraged, anyway your work is great!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: NES Double Dragon
Post by: SomeOldGuy on December 21, 2019, 07:59:57 pm
Thanks sics!  Can't wait to finally see your hack, I know its going to be amazing! ;D