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Title: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: RHDNBot on December 06, 2006, 04:09:37 pm
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Update By: DahrkDaiz

Yes, I finally decided it's time to release what I DID get finish for Luigi vs Mario. For those who forgot, this is the rundown:

Luigi vs Mario was going to turn into Mario Adventure 2. The premise of the game was going to be collecting green coins which would be used to open up new locations. World transitions would work by pipe levels. There would be no kings castles, no airships. just a long adventure. The maps were going to be free roaming also. Alas, my brother reinstalled Windows and over wrote my progress. What you have here is the final version of Luigi vs Mario BEFORE I started the free roaming maps. The Green coins are here and in almost every level I have completed.

Worlds 1-4 for Luigi's side are complete, along with half of World 5.

worlds 1 and 2 are complete for Mario's side.

PATCH TO SUPER MARIO BROS. 3 (PRG 0) (U).NES!!!!

NOTE: There are still lots of bugs in this hack, so save state often!

Relevant Link: (http://dahrkdaiz.panicus.org/Manual/)
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Jedi QuestMaster on December 06, 2006, 04:25:54 pm
Oh, that f-tard!  I remember a virus forced us to erase all our programs.  Now I've got my laptop. :)

I was excited when I heard "free-roaming." (http://tintsshades.port5.com/images/hmph.gif)
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: MathUser2929 on December 06, 2006, 04:43:16 pm
Here's a question. Will Romhacking make an exception for this? I mean they only want complete hacks. I would vote for an exception in this case.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Jedi QuestMaster on December 06, 2006, 04:45:48 pm
Why not?  It's as finished as it'll get (hopefully not).
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: akadewboy on December 06, 2006, 05:28:24 pm
This is why everyone should have at least 2 hard drives installed in their computer, or a USB hard drive for quick backups. Hope you get enthusiasm to continue the hack  ;)
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: creaothceann on December 06, 2006, 06:39:56 pm
Um, how does re-installing Windows & deleting programs affect the hacks?

Your tools, yes, but the data files...
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Suzaku on December 06, 2006, 06:43:51 pm
If he wiped his hard drive as part of the Windows install (like most restore discs from pre-manufactured PCs do) he'd lose EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Dragonsbrethren on December 06, 2006, 07:24:12 pm
Um, how does re-installing Windows & deleting programs affect the hacks?

Your tools, yes, but the data files...

Let's not start this discussion here, there was already a very long (too long) topic about it at Acmlm's:
http://board.acmlm.org/thread.php?id=6944 (http://board.acmlm.org/thread.php?id=6944)

Let's just be thankful he released what he had done, even if it is incomplete.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: tv8tony on December 10, 2006, 11:38:12 pm
wow this is a really nice hack i do wonder  what it was going to be like
good luck with your future projects i will be looking for them 

P.S. can any one tell me what  "free roaming" means?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: akadewboy on December 18, 2006, 11:20:35 pm
Free roaming means you can almost go anywhere you want at anytime and complete what you want when you want to. A linear game forces you to beat levels and complete tasks in a certain order, sometimes following a set storyline.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: J. Lilja on January 17, 2007, 07:38:32 am
Hello everybody! I'm new here, but I just had to drop in to bug you all.. ;)
I just read how DahrkDaiz lost all his work from the harddrive, and I suppose you all have already been over this several time (if so is the case: I'm sorry for the repetition), but I was just thinking.. The same thing happened to me a while back and I lost everything I had saved. But with the help from a little inexpensive program called FileScavanger I was able to save about 99% of everything that accidentally had been deleted. Wouldn't this be worth a shot? Maybe it is possible to save if not all but maybe a lot of the work you had done DahrkDaiz.. Just a thought. ;)
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: KaioShin on January 17, 2007, 07:44:02 am
Hello everybody! I'm new here, but I just had to drop in to bug you all.. ;)
I just read how DahrkDaiz lost all his work from the harddrive, and I suppose you all have already been over this several time (if so is the case: I'm sorry for the repetition), but I was just thinking.. The same thing happened to me a while back and I lost everything I had saved. But with the help from a little inexpensive program called FileScavanger I was able to save about 99% of everything that accidentally had been deleted. Wouldn't this be worth a shot? Maybe it is possible to save if not all but maybe a lot of the work you had done DahrkDaiz.. Just a thought. ;)

If such a thing works depends on the kind of hdd failure. If it's physically broken (eg: headcrash) you even be able to run such a program over it ;) If the HDD got formated you are lost as well. The only thing which can be done would be if the files got accidentally deleted. But even then you have to be lucky that no files got written over the old data in the meantime.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: J. Lilja on January 17, 2007, 07:56:26 am

If such a thing works depends on the kind of hdd failure. If it's physically broken (eg: headcrash) you even be able to run such a program over it ;) If the HDD got formated you are lost as well. The only thing which can be done would be if the files got accidentally deleted. But even then you have to be lucky that no files got written over the old data in the meantime.

This is not entirely true. It does not matter if the harddrive has been formated, as long as you haven't used a program like KillDisc to fill it with junk information. If you just have formated it and installed windows and other programs it is still be possible to retrieve the lost data, as long as the same HDD clusters hasn't been used by new information.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: KaioShin on January 17, 2007, 08:00:41 am

If such a thing works depends on the kind of hdd failure. If it's physically broken (eg: headcrash) you even be able to run such a program over it ;) If the HDD got formated you are lost as well. The only thing which can be done would be if the files got accidentally deleted. But even then you have to be lucky that no files got written over the old data in the meantime.

This is not entirely true. It does not matter if the harddrive has been formated, as long as you haven't used a program like KillDisc to fill it with junk information. If you just have formated it and installed windows and other programs it is still be possible to retrieve the lost data, as long as the same HDD clusters hasn't been used by new information.

I think this depends simply on using quick format vs complete format. If you do a quick format it will only delete the file table. But if you do a full format it will write zeroes over everything afaik.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Kiyoshi Aman on January 17, 2007, 08:04:37 am
Wouldn't matter, write heads don't go over the exact spot previous data was written when writing data. This is one of the reasons data recovery folks have jobs. :p
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: KaioShin on January 17, 2007, 08:11:33 am
Wouldn't matter, write heads don't go over the exact spot previous data was written when writing data. This is one of the reasons data recovery folks have jobs. :p

That's pretty much a myth, look at this older thread where it was discussed : http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,1038.msg12540.html#msg12540.

What Recovery companies mostly do is transferring the magnet discs out of broken HDDs into working ones.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: J. Lilja on January 17, 2007, 08:14:00 am
Wouldn't matter, write heads don't go over the exact spot previous data was written when writing data. This is one of the reasons data recovery folks have jobs. :p

Precisely! :D No, it does not matter which way you format the HDD. The process only fools the computer to believe the HDD is empty. Nothing really disappears, and I mean nothing.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Nightcrawler on January 17, 2007, 09:44:56 am
You have quite a bit higher chance of data recovery than you might think with a hard drive. I have done a good deal of data recovery on drives that were malfunctioning. If you have a completely dead drive that won't read anything at all or spin up of, you're pretty much out of luck. However, 9 times out of 10 the drives are still somewhat functional. In that case you can stick them into another computer(so it's not the boot drive) and run some low level recovery programs. They access the drive a bit differently than windows does and don't choke on data read errors. You can run that and at the least recover data in spots of the disc or on a platter that is still accessible. There is a particular program that I favor, but I can't remember the name of hand. I'll have to look it up at home.

I'd bet my lunch that SOME data can ALWAYS be recovered from a drive that isn't completely dead. It's always a crap shoot of course on what data is recovered. It's certainly worth a try if you have anything worth recovering.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: J. Lilja on January 17, 2007, 10:08:36 am
You have quite a bit higher chance of data recovery than you might think with a hard drive. I have done a good deal of data recovery on drives that were malfunctioning. If you have a completely dead drive that won't read anything at all or spin up of, you're pretty much out of luck. However, 9 times out of 10 the drives are still somewhat functional. In that case you can stick them into another computer(so it's not the boot drive) and run some low level recovery programs. They access the drive a bit differently than windows does and don't choke on data read errors. You can run that and at the least recover data in spots of the disc or on a platter that is still accessible. There is a particular program that I favor, but I can't remember the name of hand. I'll have to look it up at home.

I'd bet my lunch that SOME data can ALWAYS be recovered from a drive that isn't completely dead. It's always a crap shoot of course on what data is recovered. It's certainly worth a try if you have anything worth recovering.

I agree! And I can recommend a recovery program called FileScavenger that I myself have tried, like I mentioned before. It got me out of a world of shit! Its very inexpensive also..
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: camrec on October 15, 2007, 10:54:09 am
Hey all, sorry to revie the topic...but...the link is dead! I want to play this hack, anybody have a copy?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: Googie on October 15, 2007, 12:32:56 pm
Hey all, sorry to revie the topic...but...the link is dead! I want to play this hack, anybody have a copy?


Hacksterpiece Theatre. (http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php?s=luigi+vs.+mario)
You'll find what you're looking for there, see ya's...
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: Luigi vs Mario: Dead but Released
Post by: camrec on October 15, 2007, 03:03:25 pm
that's awesome..not only is the game there but a bunch of other DahrkDaiz hacks...and Metroid Redesign! it's great to see a column highlighting the truly playable hacks

I'm not sure but there doesn't seem to be much updates at hackery! and DahrkDaiz'es site is offline...does it mean they are both defunct? that is a shame, I hope people keep making hacks of the level of MarioAdventure and MetroidRedesign!