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Title: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: RHDNBot on September 07, 2016, 08:22:02 pm
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Update By: MowseChao

Game Grumps is a Let's Play channel staring Arin Hanson and Dan Avidan with a total of 3.5 million subscribers to date. Upon a request from one of the hosts, a group of very dedicated fans created a hack of Kirby's Dream Course. The hack evidently shows a lot of love and shows what a dedicated fanbase can produce. The hack contains a whopping total of 152 for hours of fun!

RHDN Project Page (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3057/)

Relevant Link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsy--PhVGcY&list=PLRQGRBgN_EnrsxaVTQJKIao6lDAJyYOw-&index=7)
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 07, 2016, 10:35:28 pm
The hack contains a whopping total of 152 for hours of fun!

You accidentally the word "boards"?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: shadowmanwkp on September 08, 2016, 03:30:40 am
You accidentally the word "boards"?

Seems like it, the hack description is talking about 152 boards:

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This all started over a year ago when Danny requested DLC for Kirby’s Dream Course. We’re here to deliver with 152 whole boards!
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Shiryu on September 08, 2016, 05:35:55 am
This is absolutely fantastic work. I actually submitted a news post for this at Nintendo Life last week, but sadly policies within the website regarding NSFW languange meant it went unpublished. Excellent work from everyone who helped make this a reality. I am quite enjoying the episodes with it as well. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: jink640 on September 08, 2016, 10:55:50 am
but sadly policies within the website regarding NSFW languange meant it went unpublished.
You mean the 7 asses? That's considered NSFW language now?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Thirteen 1355 on September 08, 2016, 11:18:21 am
Fuck Game Grumps.
No more idols.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 08, 2016, 01:49:11 pm
You mean the 7 asses? That's considered NSFW language now?

They may be trying to emulate the era in which "damn" was a big deal.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Mowse on September 08, 2016, 03:56:19 pm
I actually submitted a news post for this at Nintendo Life last week, but sadly policies within the website regarding NSFW languange meant it went unpublished.

So the game being discussed can't have any NSFW language?

It's pretty minor. I wouldn't mind making a separate "work safe" patch if it really mattered to that many people.

Also thanks for the compliment!
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on September 08, 2016, 04:29:23 pm
Aw yeah gonna play dis hack with ma punkin-shaped hiney know whaddamean?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 08, 2016, 04:34:56 pm
So the game being discussed can't have any NSFW language?

It's pretty minor. I wouldn't mind making a separate "work safe" patch if it really mattered to that many people.

Also thanks for the compliment!

The prospect of making the game work-safe, but inevitable rabbit hole leading to watching the Grumps amuses me.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: treos on September 08, 2016, 08:15:51 pm
They may be trying to emulate the era in which "damn" was a big deal.

with how rampant political correctness is these days, what isn't considered NSFW language? and if that's not the case now then how long until it is?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 08, 2016, 10:35:05 pm
with how rampant political correctness is these days, what isn't considered NSFW language? and if that's not the case now then how long until it is?

6969?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Lilinda on September 09, 2016, 12:42:20 am
Pretty sure they're going for a Nintendo Power type deal(Though probably not inspired by it) where everything is as "kiddie friendly" as possible. Kiddie friendly=friendly to advertisers who have always been massive pussies(A lot of why TV in the US in the 1950s was so sterilized was to appeal to them) See what Youtube is trying to do to desperately attract as many advertisers as possible. When people all over political spectrums, topics and styles of making videos are getting hit, you know advertisers are at the core of this in some way. The Nintendo Life thing is almost certainly the same way. Nintendo is considered a kid friendly brand and has been since the 80s. As such, advertisers are gonna have certain guidelines on sites that interact with Nintendo to this much of an extent, even if the interaction is unofficial. Doubly so, I imagine, for sites with Nintendo literally in their name.

Sometimes the simplest answer is to look to history and see what patterns are repeating. Seems like this is the pattern that is repeating here.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: SunGodPortal on September 09, 2016, 01:21:19 am
I wouldn't mind making a separate "work safe" patch if it really mattered to that many people.

No, don't encourage their bad behavior.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Real_Character on September 09, 2016, 08:00:05 am
Someone old enough to rom hack likes game grumps? That's odd. I think they are annoying, like the lesser pewdypie. I can tolerate continue show or even mike and bootsy plays, but that's my limit.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 09, 2016, 11:06:42 am
Someone old enough to rom hack likes game grumps? That's odd. I think they are annoying, like the lesser pewdypie. I can tolerate continue show or even mike and bootsy plays, but that's my limit.

Petty insults against youth aside, this was done as a community using a level editor with a pretty friendly GUI. It's completely possible any of the "hacking" was done by random third party people and the "people who like Game Grumps" didn't have anything to do with "hacking".
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on September 09, 2016, 03:36:50 pm
Looks cool from the pics, but 15mb+ for a Kirby Dream Course hack isn't worth waiting for my caveman internets to download. Any chance there's an alternative download without the .PDF files?


PARTY LIKE IT'S 1998.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 09, 2016, 04:41:42 pm
Looks cool from the pics, but 15mb+ for a Kirby Dream Course hack isn't worth waiting for my caveman internets to download. Any chance there's an alternative download without the .PDF files?


PARTY LIKE IT'S 1998.

Go to your local public library and party like it's 2006?
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Josephine Lithius on September 10, 2016, 03:05:32 am
Watched the first episode of the Game Grumps Vs. series for this. (It's in the relevant link.)  All I have to say is... they're not very good at this game.

That aside, the ROM hack looks pretty great.  An alternate download without the bloat of the PDF would be nice though, since it's just fan fluff and a walk-through for the 152 holes.  Don't get me wrong...  It's very clear that a lot of love went into making that faux manual and strategy guide, between the art, screen shots, and story.  But the game itself tells you the story and you shouldn't need a strategy guide unless you're absolutely stuck.  And of course... sometimes, you just want to play a ROM hack.  Not wait around for a download to finish or wade through supplementary information.

A version of the hack for other regions of the game might also be nice, since this one only works on Kirby Bowl (Japanese region), according to the hack info.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Revenant on September 10, 2016, 03:19:12 am
http://revenant1.net/GrumpsDreamCourse.zip

Here's the patch by itself for people who want a smaller download.

A version of the hack for other regions of the game might also be nice, since this one only works on Kirby Bowl (Japanese region), according to the hack info.

There was a reason for that: the "All Courses" menu is an edit of the Japanese version's debug level select, and the Japanese version of the game had several unused courses that were used to accommodate more new stages. (Also, the English versions have no intro sequence!)
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Josephine Lithius on September 10, 2016, 04:00:42 am
There was a reason for [using the Japanese version]: the "All Courses" menu is an edit of the Japanese version's debug level select, and the Japanese version of the game had several unused courses that were used to accommodate more new stages. (Also, the English versions have no intro sequence!)
Ah.  That makes a lot of sense, in that case.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 10, 2016, 04:55:05 am
http://revenant1.net/GrumpsDreamCourse.zip

Here's the patch by itself for people who want a smaller download.

There was a reason for that: the "All Courses" menu is an edit of the Japanese version's debug level select, and the Japanese version of the game had several unused courses that were used to accommodate more new stages. (Also, the English versions have no intro sequence!)

Make a patch that's "for" other regions, but essentially patches the ROM to be the Japanese version.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Revenant on September 10, 2016, 12:46:58 pm
You might as well just distribute an entire pre-patched ROM at that point.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: GreenBanana on September 10, 2016, 01:01:26 pm
I guess 3.5 million people can be wrong.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on September 10, 2016, 03:28:26 pm
Make a patch that's "for" other regions, but essentially patches the ROM to be the Japanese version.

After trying the hack I'd be happy with a "Single Player Mode" patch, because from messing around for awhile I see no such option.

Some crazy looking levels from what I've seen though.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: Mowse on September 10, 2016, 06:30:39 pm
That aside, the ROM hack looks pretty great.  An alternate download without the bloat of the PDF would be nice though,
I agree! I was actually planning on just having the patch on sites like this and leaving the extraneous stuff elsewhere for those who want more. I made the image guide in case someone wanted to replay a specific level and didn't know where to find it in the level select.

I updated the game due to a freezing bug that happens on one level depending on which enemy becomes the hole. The new 1.01 patch shouldn't include the extra fluff. :P

Also, I am in the process of developing a single player version due to popular demand, but the levels aren't really tailored well to the single player experience. There's a "beta" patch out already at the subreddit, but I'd like to change the requirements for gold/silver/bronze medals to give it proper balance.
Title: Re: ROM Hacks: And We're the Game Grumps!
Post by: treos on September 11, 2016, 11:58:12 am
Looks cool from the pics, but 15mb+ for a Kirby Dream Course hack isn't worth waiting for my caveman internets to download. Any chance there's an alternative download without the .PDF files?


PARTY LIKE IT'S 1998.

what, don't have a download manager? a real one i mean, not firefox's crappy built-in browser one. dumb firefox might let you pause and resume but if your connection is crappy then anything past a certain size will likely timeout and fail regardless of pausing/resuming.

maybe try flashget (not to be confused with the flashgot plugin) or perhaps jdownloader. you can get a virus free copy of jdownloader here: https://jdrch.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/where-to-get-the-full-adware-free-jdownloader-offline-installer/ (something about all of the online installers for it having adware or something...i don't really remember for sure but this copy is safe.)

anyway, use one of those and the download won't timeout or fail unless the link isn't resumable or some other error happens. i happen to have crappy internet myself (unlimited bandwidth but the download speed typically peaks at around 180kb/s in most cases. twice that when downloading from some sites like MEGA with jdownloaders speed limit turned off.) and anything over 200-250MB+ tends to fail on me with firefox no matter how often i pause and resume the dumb download.