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Title: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: RHDNBot on April 01, 2013, 10:25:09 am
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Update By: throughhim413

Absolute Zero has released our third complete Tales translation - Tales of the Tempest for the Nintendo DS.

The translation was completed in-line with localization standards for the series and includes battle and karaoke subtitles.

The patch is provided in xdelta format. Instructions are included in the readme.

RHDN Project Page (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1814/)

Relevant Link: (http://a0t.co/2013/04/01/tales-of-the-tempest-patch-released/)
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 01, 2013, 10:25:36 am
For the record: do not play this game. Ever.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Sara-chan on April 01, 2013, 10:28:21 am
Eeeeveeeer. Seriously. Go have a kid and force the kid to somehow develop a game when they're 2 years old. It will be a better experience for all involved than this. It will also have better writing.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: throughhim413 on April 01, 2013, 10:30:10 am
This game is a perfect case study in all the ways you can screw up during game development.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 01, 2013, 10:51:17 am
Even the fucking music is insipid. Tales of Innocence, while overall the worse game, has better music than this piece of shit. The tunes are often nonsensical, there's no boss tune, the only time the game has a song that sounds truly anything like special battle music is in the 30 floor dungeon which has that tune THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DUNGEON'S RANDOM BATTLES, the actual final boss tune is nothing special at all.

Oh, and the hidden 30 floor dungeon? It's mostly stronger versions of the previous enemies and each five floors you get an encounter that is... Drum roll please

*dumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdumdum*

A stronger version of something you've encountered before. Even the last boss in the dungeon.

Also, the last several floors have uber equipment for all but one character. The second one in the game no less.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: DaMarsMan on April 01, 2013, 11:01:00 am
You guys are incredible. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: KingMike on April 01, 2013, 11:09:02 am
This is a real patch and the April Fools joke is that it's for a bad game? :)
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 01, 2013, 11:10:04 am
I spent over 20 hours on this goddamned thing. I suffered.

It's fucking real.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Carnivol on April 01, 2013, 12:21:02 pm
All too real.

The game seriously feels WORSE than those "RPG mini-games" you can unlock/find at various locations in other "proper" games (ie. stuff like the Mog House in Final Fantasy VII's Gold Saucer and such)
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 01, 2013, 12:46:33 pm
Yeah, there's no contest. It's worse than almost every mini-RPG game mode ever if only for one reason: Those are meant to be little things in addition to the game(With the notable exception of the Quest Mode in Ehrgeiz's PSX port, where it basically shared equal developmental focus, though not equal billing).

This? This was a full blown retail product that sold for standard Japanese DS cart prices.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Spinner 8 on April 01, 2013, 12:51:15 pm
I don't care how bad it is, I am excited as all heck. :) Thanks to everybody who made this patch; more Tales games in English is never a bad thing.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: StorMyu on April 01, 2013, 01:23:52 pm
I spent over 20 hours on this goddamned thing. I suffered.

It's fucking real.
I've spent more time than that, I had to go through Psychiatric hospital to forget what I did this past year.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Pikachumanson on April 01, 2013, 01:45:23 pm
I just finished looking at the readme. What a bashathon!
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Kiyoshi Aman on April 01, 2013, 01:49:58 pm
Did Namco just phone in the DS Tales games? I can't come up with any other explanation for why both this and Tales of Innocence are terrible...
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: eefara on April 01, 2013, 02:54:36 pm
Props to Absolute Zero for all the work they did and all the pain they went through. This is the best April Fools' Day  prank gift I've ever received. I look forward to playing this piece of crap game, if only to admire the dedication of the a0 team.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Spinner 8 on April 01, 2013, 03:36:15 pm
Did Namco just phone in the DS Tales games? I can't come up with any other explanation for why both this and Tales of Innocence are terrible...

Not "phoned in" so much as "farmed out". :)
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: patuli on April 01, 2013, 05:07:54 pm
Is really this game that bad?
damn then i will not play it, and i assume  Tales of Hearts is as bad as this?
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: throughhim413 on April 01, 2013, 05:18:34 pm
Is really this game that bad?
Yes.
Quote
i assume  Tales of Hearts is as bad as this?
Tales of Hearts is amazing. Almost no one has bad things to say about Tales of Hearts.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 01, 2013, 05:39:13 pm
I've spent more time than that, I had to go through Psychiatric hospital to forget what I did this past year.

I'm so sorry.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Zoel on April 01, 2013, 06:05:47 pm
Is really this game that bad?
damn then i will not play it, and i assume  Tales of Hearts is as bad as this?

Who said Tales of Hearts is bad? Literally Hearts is one of the best DS games and a great Tales game too.

Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Pokeytax on April 01, 2013, 11:06:23 pm
This is heroic.  You are heroes, and monsters.  I did an April Fool's translation and I thought that was plenty, but to do something like this must have taken inhuman stamina.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Bregalad on April 02, 2013, 05:15:09 am
OK now that April 1st is over, can somebody explain what the fool was ? I didn't understand.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Pikachumanson on April 02, 2013, 05:30:32 am
I think it was the fact that they torured themselves two years on this translation. I haven't played the game but from the comments and the readme this game could be on par with Aiden Chronicles.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: KaioShin on April 02, 2013, 05:56:08 am
Where do people pull that 2 year number from? It's not accurate at all.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Pikachumanson on April 02, 2013, 06:02:32 am
Just three months shy from a third year.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Gideon Zhi on April 02, 2013, 08:29:16 am
OK now that April 1st is over, can somebody explain what the fool was ? I didn't understand.

The joke is that the game is terrible.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Carnivol on April 02, 2013, 08:53:33 am
Where do people pull that 2 year number from? It's not accurate at all.

Think people saw the part about two years of there not really being any news on a certain other project and tried to add two and two together ... or maybe that's the April Fool's  :laugh:
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: RomanWarrior on April 02, 2013, 09:41:26 am
I think it was the fact that they torured themselves two years on this translation. I haven't played the game but from the comments and the readme this game could be on par with Aiden Chronicles.

I loved Aiden Chronicles
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: arromdee on April 02, 2013, 07:11:52 pm
According to Wikipedia, this was originally meant to be part of the main Tales series but this was changed afterwards.  Could the quality of the game have had anything to do with that?
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Sappharad on April 02, 2013, 08:58:09 pm
Think people saw the part about two years of there not really being any news on a certain other project and tried to add two and two together ... or maybe that's the April Fool's  :laugh:
I can agree with that. I thought the same thing after reading the Readme, and had to go back and read it again after the comments about where did two years come from. The "for the better part of the last two years" phrase doesn't directly say those two years were involved in making the translation, but it was the easiest conclusion to come to. I remember wanting to play this when it first came out, but I don't think I ever will. I never really had time to try Innocence.



Thanks for the free advertising. I actually used the TOI patch to test XDelta patching/creation in MultiPatch, because it was the only example of a large patch that I was aware of at the time and also the reason I had to make the application 64-bit native.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Sora de Eclaune on April 02, 2013, 10:11:48 pm
I just got the patch. Xdelta GUI doesn't consider it a valid patch file. Anyone know how to patch this?

I'm actually one of the 2 people who want to play... :(
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Doomed on April 02, 2013, 10:42:49 pm
I spent less than a year on a game that I like and barely want to do even that. How can you spend >2 years on a piece of garbage?

http://a0t.co/2013/04/02/aprils-fools-the-jokes-on-us/ (http://a0t.co/2013/04/02/aprils-fools-the-jokes-on-us/)
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: heratio on April 03, 2013, 02:20:43 am
Sora, just change the file type to all files so the file shows up.  Then you can proceed like normal.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 04, 2013, 02:23:03 am
I bugged KC about this a while back, but he forgot to fix it. Bad KC, bad. :P He's using the command line Xdelta which outputs patches as .DAT/.dat rather than .xdelta which is what KaioShin's program looks for.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Zetshiro on April 06, 2013, 12:00:14 am
Congratulations on this! I remember reading all about the game quite some time back, but I never realized people found it to be so bad. The main complaint I read back then was the game was too short...

I will have to play it one day, but my next Tales' game will probably be Graces f or Symphonia. :)
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 06, 2013, 04:52:21 am
The length is not the issue. If you do everything it's like 20 hours long(I got in about 22), not bad for a portable RPG, or most kinds of game really.

No, the issue is the rest of it. I hated this game so much I asked if I could write a full article about how much I hate this game. I was told to keep the word count down.

I hated this game so much I wanted my Mark of Hate on it. I wanted the game to be known as an utterly terrible piece of shit, and I wanted everyone to know how much I hate this game.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: SpiffSpoo on April 06, 2013, 01:36:18 pm
I just got the patch. Xdelta GUI doesn't consider it a valid patch file. Anyone know how to patch this?

I'm actually one of the 2 people who want to play... :(

Same.  I get a "Bad magic number: not a valid delta" error.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 06, 2013, 03:34:38 pm
Can't say I ran into that during the beta test...
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: SpiffSpoo on April 06, 2013, 04:12:33 pm
Any idea on how to fix it?
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 06, 2013, 04:32:18 pm
What's the file name of the ROM you're patching?
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: mziab on April 06, 2013, 04:52:08 pm
You might want to try this patcher (http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/704/) instead if you're having trouble with Xdelta UI.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: SpiffSpoo on April 06, 2013, 09:15:41 pm
This patcher worked. Not sure why it made a difference.

Thanks
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Bregalad on April 07, 2013, 04:40:58 pm
I still don't get the april fool.
Is this game so legendary bad that it falls in the same category as Action 52 and E.T. the Extraterestial ?

If so then I'd see it as a bit funny but still...
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: ascii256 on April 07, 2013, 10:18:27 pm
I for one an terribly excited to play this game.

Bad or good, I love the tales series.  And with a short length, I can at least power through.

If the game is at least as good as Enchanted Arms I will be happy.
Title: Re: Translations: Tales of the Tempest (NDS) Patch Released
Post by: Lilinda on April 08, 2013, 05:40:17 am
I still don't get the april fool.
Is this game so legendary bad that it falls in the same category as Action 52 and E.T. the Extraterestial ?

If so then I'd see it as a bit funny but still...

I dunno if it's legendarily bad, but having actually played it, there's no way it's better than Superman 64, a game often touted to be as bad or worse than ET.