Have any of u been an early adopter

of a technology like a game system that failed? Personally Ive been an early adopter previously of 3 consoles that failed including the virtual boy/saturn/dreamcast and bought them new.

Why you hatin' on the DC, playa?

I really like it actually and am sad it didnt last very long before sega gave up and dropped support, it definetely could have beat xbox and gamecube.

Why you hatin' on the DC, playa?

How is that hating?! It's a fact! A recorded fact in Sega's history!

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/plasmatv-highdefinition.html

for early plasma adopters still around.

Where are all those people that chose Beta over VHS?  A friend of mine still has a BetaMax in his attic, and it works.  I think he paid around $300 for it at the time.  I remember walking into Errol's video, and the store was divided into two halves.  The blue half was Beta, and the red was VHS.  Beta died thereafter.

Edit:  I grabbed an N64 when it came out.  I don't know if it's considered a "failure", but it didn't turn out to offer a whole lot of solid games.

Well... I got the PSP pretty much on day one (it was pressure from the Gamestop I frequented a lot those days... They'd ask me to preorder one EVERY friggin' time I went there and every friggin' minute... and there's more to it).

I can't say it's a failure, but it is weaker than the DS is, currently. I am glad I got it sooner rather than later, though, because it turned out to be a neat little emulation machine. I probably played more NES and SNES games than PSP games on that thing in its first few years... And once the PSX emulator rolled around, all the PSX games I hadn't beaten before (like FF8) were slowly starting to bow to my might (lol).

But that's it. I think I've only bought like four or five PSP games and borrowed a handful... But that's it. I'll admit that one of my newly made favorite games is on it: Gundam Senjou no Kizuna, which is Japan-only, unfortunately.

I've only really picked up a few systems on Day One, and those would be the Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS, and the Wii.  Wow.  Seeing a pattern here?

There were zero concerns about getting a GBA, but the DS...  at the time, anyone would have to admit that they were surprised it took off like it did, especially considering the power of the PSP.  I really did think the PSP was going to clobber it, and thusly invalidate my purchase quite quickly.  The Wii was also a leap of faith.  I have mixed emotions on it.  It's a perfectly capable system, and a great idea, but too many companies are STILL treating it just as a fad, and not putting AAA effort into it.  The Nintendo-made stuff is great, and a few random 3rd party games, but other than that, for the core gamer, it's not a failure, but it's not great, either.  It's kind of sitting in the no-man's land of the PSP.

Speaking of a PSP, I've never regretted that purchase.  I waited until the Slim, and with custom firmware, I've done all the stuff you mentioned, Garoth.  Totally worth it, just for the emulation.

Why you hatin' on the DC, playa?

How is that hating?! It's a fact! A recorded fact in Sega's history!

I think he was just talking about the definition of failure. Financially, yeah, they crashed and burned, but there were more great games put out on the DC in it's few years in life than some consoles have had on full life cycle. As for the Saturn, they shot themselves in the foot, but in japan it lived a full life cycle, and also had a lot of good games. It'd be like calling the Gamecube a failure because Nintendo was losing marketshare in the home console space (although Sega really did hemorrhage cash, but that doesn't mean they weren't making good games, they just weren't marketing themselves well)

I would call a system a failure if it was like, the virtual boy, the 3DO, the Jaguar, CDi, etc.

as for failing systems, I own a PSP that a barely use, does that count?

I really like it actually and am sad it didnt last very long before sega gave up and dropped support, it definetely could have beat xbox and gamecube.

I like the Dreamcast, but to say it would've beaten its competition is a joke. "Hanging around" would have been good enough, but "beating" the other two consoles is like saying the Sega Saturn was good (hint: it wasn't).

The Dreamcast would have had great games but it wasn't popular, therefore it couldn't have pulled a PS2 and been the dominant console and been a lower powered machine.

In other words, the Dreamcast was the weakest system out of those because it came to the table so early, because of that, coupled with the fact that it was not super popular, is WHY it went away, the other consoles just had more selling power, as much as that sucks, that's the facts, accept them, and move on.

The Dreamcast would have had great games but it wasn't popular, therefore it couldn't have pulled a PS2 and been the dominant console and been a lower powered machine.

In other words, the Dreamcast was the weakest system out of those because it came to the table so early, because of that, coupled with the fact that it was not super popular, is WHY it went away, the other consoles just had more selling power, as much as that sucks, that's the facts, accept them, and move on.

The DC failed primarily because of the Sony hype machine that was attributed to the PS2.

And Sega's determination to fuck up as many things as possible. While the DC itself didn't have that many bad choices(Aside from launching way too early. They should have supported the Saturn another year and a half or so. It was doing well enough in Japan. That might have given them the time they needed to get EA and others on board, plus make a more powerful console with a better disc format.), it did have the legacy of Sega's astronomically bad decision making behind it.

well nintendo somehow managed without much if any ea support in the n64/gc days.

as bad of decisions that sega did make, they had good games on Saturn, they had good games on Dreamcast

the major problems I can see was price,marketing, and a pathetic fanbase.

honestly the Dreamcast was a steal at the price it had with built in online gaming, it was ahead of it's time. and with a year's start with development kits and game engines they easily could have completed with PS2 like the 360 has done with the PS3 if only they had people buying it.

I just remember being shocked back when we were about to buy our Saturn, we had the Genesis, we loved sega, so did every other kid on the block, and then all of a sudden they all went out and bought playstations, and for what? (at that time) tekken? seriously? we got the Saturn and never really regretted it.

I understand that the Saturn was hard to develop for, but from a gamer's perspective, it was a great system, I don't see why everyone always gives it such a hard time.

well nintendo somehow managed without much if any ea support in the n64/gc days.

what are you talking about Madden was on N64 and Gamecube along with most of their other games like NFL etc, where are you getting your information?