just discovered the PC series GOTHIC

Having a blast, I love these kinds of RPGs. I am playing the very first one on my PC via HDMI to a tv using a 360 controller and they controls are very clunky. Max Payne on PC with the controler felt like the console version...

anyways, Im still loving the whole experience and the story isnt bad. not to mention you get to make your own choices and joine your own faction. Reminds me of that game on 360 "new world" or something that came out after Oblivion

This game reminds me a mix between elder scrolls and Fable. After i beat this one I am moving on to part two which i hear is much better. 3 and 4 my comp wont be able to handle at full blast so I will have to wait on those.



Anyone else played any game in ther series?

KaioShin did.

(lol direct answers)

I own all three, but have yet to have tried them.  From the general consensus I've read... the first one is supposed to be "decent", the second one is supposed to be "excellent", and the third is suppose to be "meh".

That said, yeah, Kaio probably knows more about them here than anyone else.

Playing with a 360 controller FTL

^Pretty much, you don't play Super Mario Bros. with a mouse, do you?

Whenever you computer is capable of running it, skip Gothic 4 (which it's Gothic just in name), and take a look at Risen, developed by the same studio as the first three Gothic.

And yeah, Kaio will tell you about the rest

Great, now everyone is pointing at me

I will defy expectations by saying:

Yes.

(To the original question.)

(lol direct answers)

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Ah well, it's too nice of a series to not say anything about it.

Like Dank said, Gothic 1 is decent but a bit dated, while Gothic 2 is the series' crown jewel. Definitely get the add-on Night of the Raven too, Gothic 2 isn't the same without it. If you need more incentive, it contains pirates! ARRRRRRRRRRR

Gothic 3 is in my opinion a failure of a game, but most Gothic fans love it too after it got patched up by the community. So definitely get the community patch, which makes it mostly bug free. I think the game's core design is broken beyond bug fixing, but again, not too many people I know agree with me on that.

Whatever you do, do not even consider getting the Gothic 3 (IIRC stand-alone) expansion. It wasn't made by Piranha Bytes it was outsourced to some Indian studio that only did advertising racing games beforehand. If that already gives you a rough idea on how bad it is... trust me it's much much worse. A trillion bugs? Check. Complete disregard for story and character canon? Check. Horrible quest design? Check. Logical errors at every corner? You got it.

Piranha Bytes got the hell out under the thumbs of the publisher Jowood as soon as they could and created Risen. After overextending themselves with Gothic 3 they learned from their mistakes and made the game much smaller and less ambitious again. It might as well be called Gothic 4, since the gameplay and athmosphere is Gothic down to a T. The dungeons get a bit repetitive and boring, but otherwise it's as good as the Gothic titles. (And the dungeons only make up about 30% of the whole game or so)

Jowood still had the franchise rights and published a Gothic 4 too. At least they didn't have it made in India, but by another German studio. It was done by Spellbound, who did the Commandos clone Desperados beforehand. I don't blame them for what happened with Gothic 4. I have absolutely no doubt that executive meddling from Jowood ruined that one. Those retards wanted the game to be more successful on the American market, which meant making it more colorful (LOOL) and simpler. And oh boy, did they succeed. It's dumbed down to hell and back. The game passes as an average adventure game now, but it's hard to call it an RPG or even a Gothic game. It's extremely linear (think FFXIII linear), with little side-content at all and very combat heavy. So you basically have an action adventure where you fight yourself through a series of dungeons. I really don't know what this is supposed to have to do with Gothic, which was all about exploration and open world roleplaying. The story is taking place after the butchered Gothic 3 expansion and continues the canon rape in the way they had started there.

Now stop trying to use a controller or I'll find out where you live and break your knees.

thanks


and I actualy got the controller to function very well using Xpadder

Yeah, I agree that Gothic 4 is garbage.  I haven't played the other ones, but I'm not really sure I want to.  I might try Gothic 2 though, simply due to Kaio's high praise.

probably a stupd question but

HOW DO I SPEND MY SKILL POINTS?

level 3 with 30 unspent skill points!! grr!!

You need to find a teacher. They'll also want some gold for their service. If you join a faction you should have a much easier time of finding teachers.

i just gonna hafta cough up the 1000 gems then to join the "old town" faciton

I found an FAQ that says DIEGO in the first town teaches you strength bu that ended up being untrue

You don't have to join any factions to get access to teachers (just gives you even more), and it's also advisable to explore all your options first before you join one. There will be several people who can teach you, but you might have to do something for them first.
The classic way to join the old camp is to do quests, so you don't need to pay for it.

i want to be a fighter so i need my strength up ASAP i got 30 skill points burning a hole in my pocket. Plus i hear the first town has the best armor

If you want to be a fighter, you also need to improve your weapon skill. I'd say it's even more important than strength, because you can attack much faster and much more fluid.
Diego will indeed teach you strength, but not before someone in the old camp tells you about it.
The best armor is available to everyone, regardless of which faction you join. So really, just explore the world and all factions before you decide on one. Good for getting experience too, there's no level scaling so rushing through the game isn't the best way.

I quite Gothic 1 after dumping neary 10 hours into it and got no rewarding feeling at all


Gothic 2 is what the first should have been. I feel rewarded finally got some cool armor cool weapons , more teachers and easier to find (despite the world being larger).

Gothic 1 and 2 are like night and day when it comes to playabilty and even quality to some extent. Part 2 is damn near perfect, it still has some flaws, now that i joined a guild no on seems to give me any quests that dosent involve monsters i cant even beat!!!